10 million gamers bought GTX680 class

Because are shit at playing games?

You do know that there are many other video cards that are stronger than the PS4.

For AMD there is - OCed 6950, 6970, 6990, OCed 7850, 7870,7870XT, 7950, 7970, 7990, Oced 265, 270, 270x, 280, 280x, 285, 290, 290x, 295x2

For Nvidia there is - OCed 480, Oced 570, 580, 660, 660ti, 670,680,690, Oced 750ti, 760, 760ti, 770, 780, 780ti, Titan, Titan Black, Titan Z, 970, 980

And that is leaving out SLI/Crossfire and Laptop GPUs.

You also forget that many 600 series owners could possibly own all the other series cards as well.

Yep, we have no idea of what exactly he meant.

To be certain that the pc actually performs better than the ps4 (since consoles preform better than a pc with similarly power, it not a myth but some people like to blow it way out of proportion) and will continue perform better, I would remove a couple of cards on your list. So that the pc has at least 40-50% more gpu power just to be sure.

Literally thousands.

Several per country, hundreds for the US, maybe between 50-100 for Germany and UK, Who knows how many hardware sites and reviewers are in Eastern Europe (Russia, Ukraine).

A serious shit load.

Not entirely. Considering GPUs are much more efficient than CPUs for graphics processing (... obviously), many 3D modelers, animators, ect. will render their stuff using the GPU instead of the CPU. In most cases, the GPU will provide a muuuuch faster result.

I actually tried this out in 3ds max, rendering a simple scene with basic primitive models and one daylight light source takes like 5 seconds for 1 frame using the mental ray rendering. With the GPU it didn't even take a second. On a larger scale, that would mean rendering a large scene, fully animated with hundreds-thousands of frames could take 1 day as opposed to a week.

Anyone else sort of concerned... that the GTX 970 .... a brand new card... only just manages 60 FPS on Crysis 3 with 1080p , Very High and no AA?

I dunno... im looking at cards for the first time in a long time... was expecting far more power than this....

I cant imagine how poor this will be for Star Citizen when its reached its full scale glory.

@parkurtommo: whatever the number is its not in the millions and not significant enough to skew these numbers. Not even worth discussing. We don't talk about media sites hardware sales when talking about console sales so why bring up dumb shit now?

Where are you getting this info?

They were never meant for power, its efficiency.

SLI. We need to know what percentage of gamers use sli before we can say how many indivduals bought a gpu.

Yea I've read that, but they're still the highest cards right?

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/8

only 2 sets of cards above it...

I dunno, I would of expected Crysis 3 to be a joke by now. even BF4 isn't 100+ FPS... maybe my expectations are too high, but seems underwhelming.

I guess I'l save and go all out at the end of next year.

Are you ever right on any subject you comment on? Doesn't seem so.

Oh yea, and hermies falling for PR as usual.

What, the whole 50000 of them? You guys are seriously overestimating the number of people actually using SLI.

At best, if there are 10 thousand hardware sites, reviewers, benchmarkers etc. etc. etc., you'll be at 0,1% of 10.000.000.

Its a improvement on the 780 but its not the massive jump in performance we were expecting. Maxwell was never meant to be about extreme power. The big draw for Maxwell is the lack of power [draw]. They were supposed to be on the 20nm node but TSMC wasn't ready. Crysis is also a bitch of a game to run. I've seen 3 980's play BF4 at 4K at Ultra with playable FPS.

50,000? Where did that number come from?

We still need to know the percentage to get a better idea of how many pc's have these cards.

Also many forget what else is in these pc's? All these hardware sites do their benchmarks with top of the line cpu's often oc'd. We have no idea how many gpu owners cards are being bottlenecked by weak cpu's.

that was a good presentation.

ordered a gtx 970 by gigabyte, the g1. triple fan. 4gb. not for me. i will keep running the r9 280x for now, this will replace the mrs' 7850.

To be frank here, if are looking at these new cards I would hazard a guess that don't have hardware that will bottleneck them.

Yea usual PR just like from Sony and MS

How is it not for you?

Better and less power hungry than the 280x

I remember it was insane to try and find a GTX 690. I had to wait months.

I sold mine in June for over $500 to a big time buyer of them. Must be using them to farm or something... Since it was a business address I sent it to and other actions the guy won.

I had my GTX 690 die on me 2 times. A lesson learned... Never buy reference, always 3rd party. Sure it was branded EVGA... But it was made by Nvidia.

Since Maxwell is so meh and I'm using a GTX 580 that is borrowed. I'm going to snag a GTX 970 to hold me over maybe to Pascal. I am hoping by then... GPU's will be powerful enough not to have to worry about buying another for 5+ years.

But yeah, a lot of people I know own Kepler based cards.

What, give me your number then.

And no, it's almost impossible to bottlenect just about any card apart from the really good ones or some crazy SLI set-up because nobody is going to be crazy enough to go buy a GTX 980 and then pair it with an i3 processor or something. i5s will easily match most modern games for years while i7s are just pure overkill. Games are pretty CPU cheap these days, mostly relying on GPU's. You'll have an easier time bottlenecking cards when you put them in SLI and their bitwidth is not sufficient or something.

Also anyone that's going to go build a custom rig almost certainly knows enough about computer not to bottleneck their GPU (which again, is really hard to actually achieve).

@EducatingU_PCMR: yes that's all true. her 7850's slower than my r9 280x - so she's next in line to receive an upgrade. her psu is weaker than mine - it would handle the 970 but not the r9 280x, so i'll keep running the r9 280x, rather than swap both psu's and all the rest of it. too much work when i'm pretty happy with the r9 280x for the time being.

essentially what it all comes down to is just the sacrifices a man makes for a woman :\

more assumption again Cranler room mate

Keep telling yourself that.

Assumptions? Fact is, serious enthusiasts will upgrade every year. Many more will upgrade every 2 years.

So are you still pretending not to be Cranler's alt?

@monstersfa:

Yea man they have tons of GPU lying around in their homes doing nothing with them.

They do sli builds, and buy every card from ever series (presumably). That's a lot of cards.

They're significant enough.

How do I find out where my ATI 6950 2gb fits into the current spectrum? I'm so out of date with the graphics cards.

Many are sold to fund the next upgrade.

They're logical guesstimates. I know that my country has several sites and magazines like that and it's fucking Portugal, one of the poorest countries in Europe with a VERY small computer components interest. I know that the US has tons of them, same with Germany, with that in mind it's very easy, and realistic to get those numbers.

my favourite source anandtech doesn't have any data on the 6950 in its GPUCompare tool, but here's the website, one could quickly compare the 6970 to a bunch of GPU's, one GPU at a time. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1061?vs=1351

if you want to compare to the gtx 970, because anandtech haven't put the 970 in there yet, i'd surrogate with either r9 280x, or gtx 780.

hope this helps. you gonna go shopping? :D

@parkurtommo:

still wouldn't be in the millions or anywhere close

I only know of about 30 U.S. hardware sites.

Plus a really small site could just bs everything and do pretend benchmarks.

Flagged.

How many times do you have to be told?

EDIT: HAHA, nice edit.

Not surprised seeing how China and Europe are big into PC gaming.

The 970 would smash anything you throw at it.

Jesus the damage control from the trolls in this thread has been atrocious. @Cranler, just stop digging your own grave.

Of course not.

Didn't you hear their Cranler roommates

We still don't even know what cards the nvidia rep is even talking about. Are you even a pc gamer jankar? Post a screen with a reply you're about to post with steam hardware specs next to it.

PC gamers that buy the latest GPUs are pushing the gaming industry forward.

We all should be grateful!

so where you getting the notion their are suppose hundreds of hardware sites in the US

So this is supposed to bother me somehow?

Told what?

lol hundreds? Most of them would be dead sites with hardly anyone visiting them

Consolites who buy the latest consoles are pushing the industry forward. Now that the new consoles are out the outdated games with tacked on dx11 effects will be phased out in favor of games built from the ground up for the new consoles.

Which means the infamous bs article about pc gamers not having as powerfull pcs as ps4 was wrong.

half of those 10 million are either XBMC users, graphic designers, or video editors.

so ah they can't be gamers as well or something