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#103 SpArKs424
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[QUOTE="SpArKs424"]Call of duty games are the same thing. Every game nothing new and innovative I was sorely dissapointed with black ops And I didn't even have high hopes. Dynasty warriors just come on now just stop embarrassing yourself koeiNintendo_Ownes7

I edited your post because Koei makes Dynasty Warriors not Konami.

Thanks dude :D
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#104 TimmyTortillla
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Burnout and Half-life.
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#105 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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None, I can dislike a series of games, but why should I care if others enjoy it?

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This is absolutely the correct answer.
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#107 BIOKILLER123
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No franchise needs to die, if it brothers you just don't buy it and acknowledge it.
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#108 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I wish I was making things up, let me google it.

Here you go

Some people are taking their favorite franchises way to seriously if they are going threaten the developer to make more. :(

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Dear Good, that's so lame, remind me a little about Evangelion.

However, i don't think that's the reason he made MGS4, i honestly think he really wanted to make the game the way it is, i mean, you can tell the game is made with passion and care.

He loves the games he make and it shows when you play them. He would probably have made MGS4 without the rather unnecessary death threats sooner or later anyway. However, he would much rather produce a new IP than to produce sequels to his existing IPs.

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#109 Dead-Memories
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Final Fantasy,. every JRPG.JigglyWiggly_
agreed.
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#110 Miroku32
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Final Fantasy,. every JRPG.JigglyWiggly_
I accept FF but not the other part, there are good JRPG out there. CoD is another one that must die.
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  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

DazedDarkness

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

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#112 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]

  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.
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#113 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]

  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.

"Old style formula?" Every game has completely different mechanics.
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#114 xbox360isgr8t
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any franchise that "needs to die" is probably to successful for its own good and in reality it should just not be allowed to release like every year. COD needs to take a year or two off and not release another major title until like 2012 or 2013 but that wont happen.
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#115 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Uncharted, we need something new after U3. KZ, after 3 GG needs a new IP.II_Seraphim_II
Dude...really? This franchises just started up. Sure there was KZ1 on PS1, but look at the long distance in time between KZ1 and KZ2. Definitely not something thats being milked or needs to die. As for Uncharted, can we give it some time please? The franchise is brand new and just kicking. Heck there are other games that have gone longer. Halo for instance has had 6 games in its universe already. God of War has had 5 games (excluding any mobile games). Pokemon has had 2 billion games which are IDENTICAL to each other save 2 different pokemon. Dont even get me started with Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and Guitar Hero. All I'm saying is, when it comes to franchises that need to die, there are far better candidates. And its not like the KZ and Uncharted franchises are bad or anything. They are critically lauded. I could understand if we were talking about "Big Rigs 3" or sumthing, but these are fantastic games which havent been milked.

not everyone has to like an adventure game that been done several times or a fps thats been done several times. thats his opinion i think if a franchise is good why kill it the industry lacks originality already why destroy the little life of creativity that is left

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#116 agff9
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="johny300"]Uncharted, we need something new after U3. KZ, after 3 GG needs a new IP.

Killzone Kart Racing and Uncharted Bash!!

If Killzone Kart Racing will be so good as Crash Team Racing Im buying it day1. Can all the Final Fantasy Killers change the name of every FF (numbered) game ? whoa!
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[QUOTE="w4rrior17"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] oh jesus...madden......how that franchise is still going on is beyond me...well, thank god Americans really love American football, because no one else does :sFried_Shrimp
It's most popular in America, but why do you think they do games in London? And people come out in waves over there to support it? And they want more? Not to turn this into a sports debate, but I really have a strong dislike for American sports haters. It may not be soccer, but it's definitely popular outside of America.

Trust me it isn't. The world hates American football if not for the arrogance that America refuses to take part in the real international sport. And don't call it soccor.

Yeah! its Football darnit! :x
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#118 Raymundo_Manuel
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Well, the only franchises I would want to die for the sake of the industry have already caused too much destruction.

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#119 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="johny300"]Uncharted, we need something new after U3. KZ, after 3 GG needs a new IP.agff9
Killzone Kart Racing and Uncharted Bash!!

If Killzone Kart Racing will be so good as Crash Team Racing Im buying it day1. Can all the Final Fantasy Killers change the name of every FF (numbered) game ? whoa!

This, CTR was, and still is imo the best cart racer ever made. And FF has more than 14 games to its name, theres all the hand helds and spinoffs. theres probebly 30 FF games in total (i will not count XI's expacks).
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#120 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]

  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

Phazevariance

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.

The series would be better off if it had kept more of an old sty1e formula. The fact is every FF game since IV has managed to change things up in just about every aspect of the game.

I think FFXIII was garbage, but not for being a repeat. Hell, I cant think of any game I've played that is like FFXIII.

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#121 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]

  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

Phazevariance

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.

Naw, the games are pretty different. I do feel that instead of going nuts with changes they could just make a much smaller amount of FF games.

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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="w4rrior17"] It's most popular in America, but why do you think they do games in London? And people come out in waves over there to support it? And they want more? Not to turn this into a sports debate, but I really have a strong dislike for American sports haters. It may not be soccer, but it's definitely popular outside of America.Ratchet_Fan8
Trust me it isn't. The world hates American football if not for the arrogance that America refuses to take part in the real international sport. And don't call it soccor.

Yeah! its Football darnit! :x

wait wat? i disagree tons of my friends from different country likes american football and america does have soccer teams dont they?

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Zanoh"]

Music Games (Except unique ones and Rockband) and Madden.

w4rrior17

oh jesus...madden......how that franchise is still going on is beyond me...well, thank god Americans really love American football, because no one else does :s

It's most popular in America, but why do you think they do games in London? And people come out in waves over there to support it? And they want more? Not to turn this into a sports debate, but I really have a strong dislike for American sports haters. It may not be soccer, but it's definitely popular outside of America.

Actually the majority of people going to that game are Americans that are living abroad. (Speaking of soccer I gotta go watch some Real/Barca action.)

As for the thread I think 3 is plenty for an unchanging series (ones that don't evolve through games) Unless the story requires a 4th there is no reason to have more than 3. I'm looking at Fable in particular.

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#124 JohnnyWPSP
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Final Fantasy and Pokemon in my opinion.

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#126 hiphops_savior
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Tony Hawk is a series that's clearly showing that it is no longer relevant. Mario has just celebrated its 25th anniversary, so why complain that there have been 10 main games in the series and a bunch of quality spin-offs that they outsource to other developers?
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#127 Timstuff
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Need for Speed sucks now that it has no split screen. The Burnout franchise is pretty much dead now too, for the same reason. Criteron seriously needs someone to kick them in the ass. They used to be one of the best racing developers around, but now they don't even include basic features like local multiplayer in their games. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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Tony Hawk is a series that's clearly showing that it is no longer relevant. Mario has just celebrated its 25th anniversary, so why complain that there have been 10 main games in the series and a bunch of quality spin-offs that they outsource to other developers?hiphops_savior
I agree Skate is better I liked the Tony Hawk series the last game I liked in that series was Project 8 and Downhill Jam. I tried the demo for Proving Ground but it was a glitchy mess. Most of the Tony Hawk games were glitchy if they were from Neversoft unless they were on the PS2 then they weren't Glitchy.

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#129 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]
It's most popular in America, but why do you think they do games in London? And people come out in waves over there to support it? And they want more? Not to turn this into a sports debate, but I really have a strong dislike for American sports haters. It may not be soccer, but it's definitely popular outside of America.Messiahbolical-



People come out in waves? are u sure you arent exaggerating a bit? How many people here know the name of an American Football team that isnt American? This is the way it feels to me: The US saw the established sports out there, Football, Cricket, Rugby, etc... They tried and sucked at them, so they went and created their own sports to be good at. There is nothing inherently wrong about that, except the rest of the world has minor interest in these new sports. Baseball is probably the biggest US sport internationally, and even so, its mostly in popular in the Americas. Europe, Africa, the majority of Asia (barring a few countries) and Oceania dont really care much for it. Practically no one out side of NA cares about American Football. Basketball is better off than American Football, but on the whole, on the world stage, the average commoner around the world doesnt really care about it. How many non american basketball teams can u name that arent olympic teams? how about american football? baseball? But look at soccer...how many teams there are? Look at Rugby or Cricket? Its like me playing dodgeball, getting killed in it, turning around and then creating my own game. I just wish the US public would try join the world in embracing the major sports, but its like they say "well, our country sucks at this sport, and I couldnt possibly root for another country's team, so screw the sport!"

First of all, how did you manage to fit so much fail into one post? You clearly know NOTHING about American football, probably never even watched or played a game in your life and here you are on a forum trash talking the sport to many of us who grew up playing and watching it, know just about anything there is to know about it, and enjoy it thoroughly. Never seen so many generalizations in one post. Okay, we get it... you don't like America. You and every other foreigner out there. We're tired of hearing it. Also I have to point out the fact that you think Madden should die because it's not popular worldwide when you're not realizing the fact that it doesn't HAVE to be. American football has more than enough fans in the USA alone to keep buying Madden games, and as long as they sell copies EA will keep making them. It's how the world works. Also, you apparently aren't a fan of innovation since you keep saying that Americans sucked at soccer so they just made their own sport. Well, I doubt that's true bu even if it was, every sport had to start somewhere. Whoever invented football took a lot of time and effort into making a whole new game unline any other and it caught on and was a hit. Get over it.

Second of all, why do you care about what sports we Americans enjoy and don't enjoy? How does it affect your life at all? 99% of us couldn't care less if anyone else in the world enjoys our sports. The NFL is huge here, it doesn't have to be huge anywhere else. It doesn't affect us at all. Most people would be shocked if you told them there's an American football league in Japan and also there was NFL Europe. Why? Because we don't care. We don't expect you guys to like it just like you shouldn't expect us to like rugby or SOCCER. If it really bugs you that much that I call it soccer, then you must have some issues as it doesn't affect you whatsoever.

Lots of generalizations both ways.

Really though, I agree with you in the sense that I think you shouldn't become more open to something like a liesure activity just because the rest of the world is. That's not really a good reason at all. I also don't see why its looked down upon for ccreating games more attuned to the tast of the people, that's not negative at all. Its ironic that on a gaming board that has a habit of looking down on the average person, the average person all of a sudden means something :P

In the same notion, you make it sound like everyone is out to get america. People hate you if your american. No, not really and even if so, here isn't the place for that discussion.

For the record, I like basketball and football (not north american which I can't sand). I hate how everything is always one sided in these debates :(

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#130 FranticDarkness
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Call of Duty and Final Fantasy
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#131 thom_maytees
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Can people bring the soccer vs. football debate to the Sports Discussion forum? It is off-topic in System Wars.
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#132 -Renegade
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Halo. It's a tired series Bungie needs to come up with something new already. :?
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Halo. It's a tired series Bungie needs to come up with something new already. :?-Renegade
Bungie have stopped doing halo. By that reasoning do you also believe that Metal Gear should be axed?
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#135 Desulated
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Every single damn FPS franchises out there except for Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein.

Ever since Halo was released, we've been getting hundreds of shameless and mediocre games of the same formula. Only ID Software can craft the genre with perfection.

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#136 789shadow
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How about none? Oh, I forgot, my personal desires are more important than the people who enjoy those games.

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#137 wiifan001
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Grand Crap Auto and Call of Duty. Especially Grand Crap Auto.
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#139 fueled-system
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Call of Duty and Final FantasyFranticDarkness
Why bury sucessful franchises makes zero sense.

Anyway its easily Tony Hawk-selling far far less then ever and not even worthy of being considered a shadow of its former great self.

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#140 Cloud567kar
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Call of Duty and Pokemon are the only answer.

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#141 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

They just need to stop making FPS for like 3 years. Maybe that will make it a little fresh again.

THIS I TOTALLY AGREE. TOO MUCH FPS GIVE THE VIDEOGAME A BAD NAME

so do broken caps buttons :P FPS are popular and so have the most fans. Rather than bash them maybe other developers should produce quality games to attract buyers? Plenty of nintendo games have done very well this gen as have strategy on the PC.
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#142 hippiesanta
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Final Fantasy...it needs to die...

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FINAL FANTASY WILL NEVER DIE... because it's a whole new chapter and new game mechanic every release.... even the character named CID are always a different person
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#143 hippiesanta
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

They just need to stop making FPS for like 3 years. Maybe that will make it a little fresh again.

THIS I TOTALLY AGREE. TOO MUCH FPS GIVE THE VIDEOGAME A BAD NAME

so do broken caps buttons :P FPS are popular and so have the most fans. Rather than bash them maybe other developers should produce quality games to attract buyers? Plenty of nintendo games have done very well this gen as have strategy on the PC.

FPS are so popular like during the era of BRITNEY SPEARS, and SPICE GIRLS..... they dance while shake thay shoulder extensively...... thats a yuck for me
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#144 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"]

  • Final Fantasy - Never cared much for it, has been going down hill since 10, and only people keeping it afloat are weeaboos.

Phazevariance

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.

Yea it has 14 but none of them connect. Its just a number to help keep things in order. I guess games like DQ should die to after it has like 11 parts and according to your logic that bad and must die.

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#146 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Really...:|. That has to be hands down one of the most silly things I heard on these bords.

sandbox3d

No, he's right. Final Fantasy has 14 sequels already! Time to move on or at least update it to something better. That old style forumla is just dead weight from the past.

The series would be better off if it had kept more of an old sty1e formula. The fact is every FF game since IV has managed to change things up in just about every aspect of the game.

I think FFXIII was garbage, but not for being a repeat. Hell, I cant think of any game I've played that is like FFXIII.

Not in my eyes. It would get stale. I like the fact the only thing that connects FF 1-14 is the name itself and thats it. It allows for them to mess around this is why not everyone will have different views on each FF game.

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I will have to say any of the main franchises that Activision relies on to make a huge amount of money. I want all those franchise to die becausewe have seen from Activision's horrible control over Tony Hawk and GH is that they don't know how to properly handle a great franchise without it eventually getting destroyed.

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#148 super600  Moderator
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Sonic is an obvious one also, but I have too much hope in Sonic still actually. Maybe because I didn't play any Sonic game after Heroes(which I thought was bad) but I just wish they could recoup the team that worked on Adventure and it's sequel, and just go back to that. Seriously, just tighten it up a bit and bring in update graphics. Those seriously were not bad games.

DazedDarkness

I wouldn't want sonic to die because Sega's starting to fix their mistakes and sonic colours brought some hope back in me.

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#149 Wanderer5
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I say no franchises need to die, but some need to take a break like the music genre overall and Tony Hawk.

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#150 cowgriller
Member since 2008 • 3153 Posts

Mario and Zelda

Zurrur

i agree. followed by sonic at a close third.