20 gb model dc'ed, half the battle is won

Idiocy FTW.

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

I'm glad you don't manage my investment portfolio.

:roll: 

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.PS3_3DO

how so? 

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.PS3_3DO

I wonder where they got that gameplan from.  

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Agreed :( 

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Sony seems to be conceding that they are losing and are half way withdrawing from the market.  How long before the 60 gb model is next?  I say before the middle of '08.Heith

lol! lemmings = smart

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Why? Anyone can upgrade their HD easily. Theyll still repair your 20gig if it breaks.. 

So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..Heith

Yes. That's exactly right. The financial health of the company hinges on the disposal of the 20GB PS3.

:::::giggles uncontrollably:::::

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

ROCK303

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..Heith

They lost more money on each 20GB model sold. 

So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..Heith

Lets see..

1) It costs much more to produce the $500 model

2) Much less demand for the 20gb

What would you do if you were a company trying to make money..? :roll:

MS would do the same, but some people are retarded as hell and buy the core and MS's overpriced addons.

[QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

Oh I see.

It doesn't count if you know it's coming.

:o 

[QUOTE="Heith"]So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..2largeadults

Yes. That's exactly right. The financial health of the company hinges on the disposal of the 20GB PS3.

:::::giggles uncontrollably:::::

It was a $100 cheaper. I think Sony only wants to win in the next-gen DVD format war.

[QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig. 

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

2largeadults

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

Oh I see.

It doesn't count if you know it's coming.

:o

I knew that the 20gb would get discontinued. It doesnt count now according to his logic :lol: 

[QUOTE="2largeadults"]

[QUOTE="Heith"]So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..PS3_3DO

Yes. That's exactly right. The financial health of the company hinges on the disposal of the 20GB PS3.

:::::giggles uncontrollably:::::

It was a $100 cheaper. I think Sony only wants to win in the next-gen DVD format war.

Really? Sony seems greedy to me. I think they want to win in the next-gen DVD format war and the game console war. 

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="2largeadults"]

[QUOTE="Heith"]So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..2largeadults

Yes. That's exactly right. The financial health of the company hinges on the disposal of the 20GB PS3.

:::::giggles uncontrollably:::::

It was a $100 cheaper. I think Sony only wants to win in the next-gen DVD format war.

Really? Sony seems greedy to me. I think they want to win in the next-gen DVD format war and the game console war.

Yea.. they're really greedy especially since their selling their console at a 200-300$ loss. 

so how is "half the battle" done? because an inferior sku wasnt needed anymore?

You do realize they were losing so much money off the 20GB version, this helps them more than hurts them.CJL13

 Helps them cut losses but it makes them lose market share as well.

so how is "half the battle" done? because an inferior sku cannot be financially supported anymore?

-PS360-

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.  

[QUOTE="-PS360-"]

so how is "half the battle" done? because an inferior sku cannot be financially supported anymore?

Heith

no because its unneeded its 10:1 with 60 to 10 gb

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

METALgearJES

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

fuzzysquash

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig. 

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. Heith

I own a 360 and a PS3 and I'll gladly take a pic of both to show you.  I'm neutral, however topics like this always arouse my interest because of bad information.

 

Also, I'm curious as to why 20GB owners "got the shaft" as well.  But as usual I highly doubt PS-3DO will answer a direct question.

[QUOTE="METALgearJES"]

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

Heith

Considering no one could find a 20GB model anyway, I don't think Sony's making decisions for anyone. 

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

Why would you feel annoyed?  How is yoru experience dimminished in any way? 

[QUOTE="METALgearJES"]

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

Heith

Wow, so now by pointing out that Sony cannot afford to keep producing a 20gb model, and forces their purchasers to buy their premier version, in turn making your decisions for you as they are now your corporate masters, I'm not bashing Sony enough? You're in denial, son.Heith

Who said Sony cannot afford to keep producing the 20gig model?

Sony is the second-largest consumer electronics corporation in the world. Do you really think they've run out of money to keep producing the 20gig?

It's a simply matter of demand and supply. Econ 101. 

how dose sony getting rid of the less popular demanded system a bad thing.
i though having 1 sku, was the better thing to do.

what really reallyy funny is how ms now has 3 sku on the market hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

and wait a min, how dose this effect people who bought 20 gigs

[QUOTE="Heith"]Wow, so now by pointing out that Sony cannot afford to keep producing a 20gb model, and forces their purchasers to buy their premier version, in turn making your decisions for you as they are now your corporate masters, I'm not bashing Sony enough? You're in denial, son.fuzzysquash

Who said Sony cannot afford to keep producing the 20gig model?

Sony is the second-largest consumer electronics corporation in the world. Do you really think they've run out of money to keep producing the 20gig?

It's a simply matter of demand and supply. Econ 101.

You have to remember that many people on this board haven't taken high school economics. 

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I'm sorry, I can't make any sense out of your argument. :?

You seem way off tangent from your original point. 

[QUOTE="Heith"][QUOTE="METALgearJES"]

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

2largeadults

Considering no one could find a 20GB model anyway, I don't think Sony's making decisions for anyone. 

 Exactly, that is the reason why the 20GB version sold so bad because Sony never made nearly as much supply for it as for the 60GB version. So the sales are not really an excuse because as you pointed out, they were hard to find to say the least.

[QUOTE="METALgearJES"]

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

Heith

lol, corporate masters. Please, I just enjoy great products like the 360 and the PS3, and hate when people cannot see the business side of things. After all, the videogame industry is a business. 

Fanboys are making a big deal that the inferior model has been discontinued.

And who says "son." lol.  

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I feel annoyed that MS screwed me over by not including HDMI with the 360 for the past year and a half. Whats to stop the from making an Xbox Elite 2 with HDMI 1.3 after another year and a half unlike the HDMI 1.2 it is now. See... I can do the same. 

[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="Heith"][QUOTE="METALgearJES"]

Who gives a a shhh!!!t that the 20gb model was discontinued. In reality, the Xbox 360 core is discontinued because you never find that model anywhere. Sony did something that Microsoft should do with there Core system.

Come on TC, please come up with something better when bashing Sony.

themyth01

Considering no one could find a 20GB model anyway, I don't think Sony's making decisions for anyone.

Exactly, that is the reason why the 20GB version sold so bad because Sony never made nearly as much supply for it as for the 60GB version. So the sales are not really an excuse because as you pointed out, they were hard to find to say the least.

That's not really accurate either.  The 20GB model always seemed to pop up when the PS3 was first released as people seemed to pass on it.  Same way with early Ebay sales.  Even when 60GB models were still fetching upwards of $1300 the 20GB model only seemed to get about $700 or so.  It was never really popular. 

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

fuzzysquash

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I'm sorry, I can't make any sense out of your argument. :?

You seem way off tangent from your original point. 

 Let me offer my opinion on what I think he's refering to. Since Sony is trying to cut losses, and they already sell a console without the necessary cables for HD gameplay, or a remote control or headphones and they have cut production of the lower-end version still to keep cutting losses, could they try and go further? I don't see how they can cut losses anymore without hurting the customer on the deal.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

ramey70

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

Why would you feel annoyed?  How is yoru experience dimminished in any way? 

Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?

Exactly, that is the reason why the 20GB version sold so bad because Sony never made nearly as much supply for it as for the 60GB version. So the sales are not really an excuse because as you pointed out, they were hard to find to say the least. themyth01

You've got it backwards. Sony set an initial ratio of 60gig to 20gig. Then they track purchasing behavior. Because no one was buying the 20gig, they chose to tip the ratio towards producing 60gig. And now that it's a 10 to 1 ratio, they've decided to drop the 20gig altogether instead of producing 10 to 1.

Firms observe demand in order to determine their production behavior.