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#51 Heith
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

asdasd

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

 

 

I feel annoyed that MS screwed me over by not including HDMI with the 360 for the past year and a half. Whats to stop the from making an Xbox Elite 2 with HDMI 1.3 after another year and a half unlike the HDMI 1.2 it is now. See... I can do the same.

Yes, but MS can afford to make new SKU's and dont have to discontinue their products that aren't doing so well, sort of like abandoning ship.  SCEA doesn't have this luxury, due to poor sales.  They are losing the console wars and they know it.
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Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?PS3_3DO

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available. 

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

themyth01

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I'm sorry, I can't make any sense out of your argument. :?

You seem way off tangent from your original point.

Let me offer my opinion on what I think he's refering to. Since Sony is trying to cut losses, and they already sell a console without the necessary cables for HD gameplay, or a remote control or headphones and they have cut production of the lower-end version still to keep cutting losses, could they try and go further? I don't see how they can cut losses anymore without hurting the customer on the deal.

 

It's not a loss cutting move.  It's a revnue maximization move.  When you combine the poors sales of the unit with the higher cost per unit it's a no brainer to get rid of it.  We get it. You hate Sony.  You want to see a PS3 fail.  Don't worry, it probably won't come out "on top" this generation and you'll get your medal from Nintendo or Microsoft for standing tall and fighting the battle here on system wars. 

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Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Yet u invite the Elite with open arms...lol...o lems.

PS 20 gig owners are no were near getting shaft by anything from Sony.

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

 

 

 

Why would you feel annoyed? How is yoru experience dimminished in any way?

Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?

 

 

Again, if you already own a 20GB model how does it's production end affect you in any way?    

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[QUOTE="themyth01"]Exactly, that is the reason why the 20GB version sold so bad because Sony never made nearly as much supply for it as for the 60GB version. So the sales are not really an excuse because as you pointed out, they were hard to find to say the least. fuzzysquash

You've got it backwards. Sony set an initial ratio of 60gig to 20gig. Then they track purchasing behavior. Because no one was buying the 20gig, they chose to tip the ratio towards producing 60gig. And now that it's a 10 to 1 ratio, they've decided to drop the 20gig altogether instead of producing 10 to 1.

Firms observe demand in order to determine their production behavior.

So its sony's Console vs M$'s 3 in which 2 of ms's consoles o still dosen't include everything,Im going with the underdog on this one heh.
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

Heith

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

 

 

I feel annoyed that MS screwed me over by not including HDMI with the 360 for the past year and a half. Whats to stop the from making an Xbox Elite 2 with HDMI 1.3 after another year and a half unlike the HDMI 1.2 it is now. See... I can do the same.

Yes, but MS can afford to make new SKU's and dont have to discontinue their products that aren't doing so well, sort of like abandoning ship. SCEA doesn't have this luxury, due to poor sales. They are losing the console wars and they know it.

I really dont care if MS can afford new SKU's. If you think having 3 different SKUs is a good thing ( and knowing MS, theres more SKUs on the way ) than you're just not smart. Sony made a good move dropping the 20gb. Its not because they cant afford it, its just a better business move. 

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?fuzzysquash

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available. 

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer. :( I don't need Wi-Fi, Card reader.

 

 

 

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#59 kcpp2b
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Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

PS3_3DO

No they didn't. They gave those who didn't need the 60GB PS3 and wanted to pay less and buy the 20GB PS3 in the future the shaft cause now we have to wait for even more of a price drop

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I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. Heith

you sir, are an idiot. 

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#61 ramey70
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?PS3_3DO

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

If a $100 difference can alter your plans that drastically, especially to the point you have to "save" for consumer electronics, then you probably should be investing your time in more important things besides video games. 

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wow, so sony is jusyt gonna stop selling playstation consoles to begin with huh. this should go in the under 15 forums

Sony seems to be conceding that they are losing and are half way withdrawing from the market.  How long before the 60 gb model is next?  I say before the middle of '08.Heith

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I'm glad you don't manage my investment portfolio.

:roll: 

2largeadults

lmao, so true

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

ramey70

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I'm sorry, I can't make any sense out of your argument. :?

You seem way off tangent from your original point.

Let me offer my opinion on what I think he's refering to. Since Sony is trying to cut losses, and they already sell a console without the necessary cables for HD gameplay, or a remote control or headphones and they have cut production of the lower-end version still to keep cutting losses, could they try and go further? I don't see how they can cut losses anymore without hurting the customer on the deal.

 

It's not a loss cutting move.  It's a revnue maximization move.  When you combine the poors sales of the unit with the higher cost per unit it's a no brainer to get rid of it.  We get it. You hate Sony.  You want to see a PS3 fail.  Don't worry, it probably won't come out "on top" this generation and you'll get your medal from Nintendo or Microsoft for standing tall and fighting the battle here on system wars. 

 Sorry I hurt your feelings if I offended Sony, really I am.

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Just because the 20gb is gone dosen't mean it can't play games. I have one and use it like a 60gb I upgraded the 20gb to 120gb for 49.99 got a wireless airbride from amazon for 16 and got the 12 memoery card reader for  10 and I noticed I never neeeded the airbridge ( i use my computer moniter because I don't have HDTV) did not need memory card reader ( I used it once) I store everything on a external hardrive. SO to me the 20gh was better and my store gave it for $ 400 with a free game ( my friend). Sony did a mistake. But they can correct this by making the 60gb 500 dollars .AND I HAVE A RARE PS3 :D

BTW I AM WRITING ALL OF THIS ON MY PS3 LINUX my VISTA COMPUTER GOT A VIRUS :x 

 

 

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[QUOTE="Heith"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

asdasd

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

 

 

I feel annoyed that MS screwed me over by not including HDMI with the 360 for the past year and a half. Whats to stop the from making an Xbox Elite 2 with HDMI 1.3 after another year and a half unlike the HDMI 1.2 it is now. See... I can do the same.

Yes, but MS can afford to make new SKU's and dont have to discontinue their products that aren't doing so well, sort of like abandoning ship. SCEA doesn't have this luxury, due to poor sales. They are losing the console wars and they know it.

I really dont care if MS can afford new SKU's. If you think having 3 different SKUs is a good thing ( and knowing MS, theres more SKUs on the way ) than you're just not smart. Sony made a good move dropping the 20gb. Its not because they cant afford it, its just a better business move. 

You think more 360 SKU's are on they way? :| MS is releasing the Elite manily for IPTV and HD video on XBLM. :|

 

 

 

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?asdasd

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13. 

 I guess people in these boards make a lot of money and don't have cost of living, maybe they live with their parents, heck I know it's not hard to make a $100 but it's hard to let it go with so many other expenses, unless you don't have other expenses.

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?PS3_3DO

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available. 

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer. :( I don't need Wi-Fi, Card reader.

 

 

 

If you werent such a blunt Sony hater I would believe that.

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I really dont care if MS can afford new SKU's. If you think having 3 different SKUs is a good thing ( and knowing MS, theres more SKUs on the way ) than you're just not smart. Sony made a good move dropping the 20gb. Its not because they cant afford it, its just a better business move.

asdasd

OK fanboy 

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I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. Heith

lmao after all the BS MS has also told you. 360 is a complete system yet they have all these addons and 3 SKUs I hardly see that as complete. You have to pay like $179 for the 120GB HDD, and $199 for the HD-DVD drive and $50 a year for XBL seems like some major milkage right there and they're supporting a format that's getting it's a$$ handed to it by a ratio of 9:2 I can't wait to see what happens when 300 comes out on Blu-Ray, I think Sony is thinking of the long run, whiles MS is clearly thinking about the short run and trying to match Sony, 3 SKUs, adding HDMI, adding a HD-DVD add on, a black console, bigger hard-drive. Sony discontinuing the 20GB is smart considering they're losing money on making it and it is losing to the 60GB by a ratio of 10:1 so how is this a stupid move? If you knew anything about supply and demand you wouldn't even post this thread btw I'm 14 so if your older than that's pretty sad to be outsmarted...

EDIT: and btw a $100 price drop for the 60GB PS3 is seeming more and more likely this year.

1) Removal of the Emotion Engine chip for Software emulation drops production cost

2) Blu-Ray dropping in price this year and becoming the dominant winner

3) New 65nm Cell Processors cost less to produce

4) The newest one, the discontinuation of the 20GB model

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#73 gtx-1
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Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

PS3_3DO

Very little, I shouls say. 

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?asdasd

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13. 

If you don't have any bills to pay than yes $100 isn't a lot.  :(

 

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I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer. :( I don't need Wi-Fi, Card reader.PS3_3DO

That's correct. Sony may have disappointed people who were wanted a 20gig PS3, but this is the direct opposite of your original claim that Sony disappointed folks who already own a 20 gig. 

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I'm glad you don't manage my investment portfolio.

:roll: 

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lmao, so true

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony just gave everyone who bought a 20gb PS3 the shaft.

 

themyth01

But teh elite ! I think Sony and Microsoft made all of us fans look like fools this month.

Everyone knew the Elite was coming because of IPTV.

 

You haven't answered my question. How has Sony given 20gig PS3 owners the shaft? The console still plays the same games, still has an HDD, still plays blu-ray movies, and still has HDMI. It's got all the same functionalities as the 60 gig, save for an extra 40gig's and wifi.

Dropping the 20gig model in no way shafts current owners of the 20gig.

I would feel a little bit annoyed if a had a 20gb PS3. I mean if Sony can drop that version so easy what's next on their list not including a controller with the PS3 60gb model.

I'm sorry, I can't make any sense out of your argument. :?

You seem way off tangent from your original point.

Let me offer my opinion on what I think he's refering to. Since Sony is trying to cut losses, and they already sell a console without the necessary cables for HD gameplay, or a remote control or headphones and they have cut production of the lower-end version still to keep cutting losses, could they try and go further? I don't see how they can cut losses anymore without hurting the customer on the deal.

 

It's not a loss cutting move. It's a revnue maximization move. When you combine the poors sales of the unit with the higher cost per unit it's a no brainer to get rid of it. We get it. You hate Sony. You want to see a PS3 fail. Don't worry, it probably won't come out "on top" this generation and you'll get your medal from Nintendo or Microsoft for standing tall and fighting the battle here on system wars.

Sorry I hurt your feelings if I offended Sony, really I am.

 

I think you missed the part where I clearly pointed out that I own and enjoy both the 360 and the PS3.  In fact if you look at an earlier post of mine from today you'll notice that I said I use the PS3 mainly for a Bluray player and do most of my gaming on the 360. 

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I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. Heith




dude you make so much sig material its sad
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#79 Realtop
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I don't see what the problem is,

First, 85% of all ps3 units are 60GB versions.

Second, 92% bought a 60GB version, coz most retailers didn't sale the 20GB version. (Europe don't even have an 20GB version)

Third, why do some of you care while you don't even have a playstation 3?

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[QUOTE="Heith"]I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. G-Legend

lmao after all the BS MS has also told you. 360 is a complete system yet they have all these addons and 3 SKUs I hardly see that as complete. You have to pay like $179 for the 120GB HDD, and $199 for the HD-DVD drive and $50 a year for XBL seems like some major milkage right there and they're supporting a format that's getting it's a$$ handed to it by a ratio of 9:2 I can't wait to see what happens when 300 comes out on Blu-Ray, I think Sony is thinking of the long run, whiles MS is clearly thinking about the short run and trying to match Sony, 3 SKUs, adding HDMI, adding a HD-DVD add on, a black console, bigger hard-drive. Sony discontinuing the 20GB is smart considering they're losing money on making it and it is losing to the 60GB by a ratio of 10:1 so how is this a stupid move? If you knew anything about supply and demand you wouldn't even post this thread btw I'm 14 so if your older than that's pretty sad to be outsmarted...

EDIT: and btw a $100 price drop for the 60GB PS3 is seeming more and more likely this year.

1) Removal of the Emotion Engine chip for Software emulation drops production cost

2) Blu-Ray dropping in price this year and becoming the dominant winner

3) New 65nm Cell Processors cost less to produce

4) The newest one, the discontinuation of the 20GB model

5)Sales for the ps3 should grow because of the MK2 5.00 downloads

6)they suprise everyone with a price drop to 475$.:P

Now if only number 6 would happen,lmao.

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#81 Heith
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[QUOTE="Heith"]I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. nolson

you sir, are an idiot.

Have I offended you so bad with the truth, that you must retort with name calling?  I guess we should start calling the PS3 the kiddie console now.
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#82 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?PS3_3DO

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

Umm, I am sure you bought the Premium 360 MIster 3D0, People buy  the 60Gb one for the same reason. Its a better deal

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#83 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?asdasd

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

1. $100 bucks is the difference between 20gb and 60gb meaning the real figure is $200 between Prem 360 and 60GB ps3.

2. How can you stand yourself? Making such a comment like that. Some people have bills to pay, kids to feed, work two jobs. And $100 is nothing to you. Well I'm glad you think so and that kind of dumb thinking is why the Wii is destroying the competition and why many people are not getting an xbox for the first time with the 360. 

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#84 ramey70
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?PS3_3DO

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

If you don't have any bills to pay than yes $100 isn't a lot. :(

 

 

Again, if $100 can affect your ability to pay bills you don't need to be playing video games. 

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#85 G-Legend
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"]

[QUOTE="Heith"]I see I've touched a nerve with the defensive minded cows of SW.. After so many months of disappointment, and so many lies told by your corporate masters, I shouldn't be surprised by the state of denial and confusion you all seem to exist in. Unforgiven2870

lmao after all the BS MS has also told you. 360 is a complete system yet they have all these addons and 3 SKUs I hardly see that as complete. You have to pay like $179 for the 120GB HDD, and $199 for the HD-DVD drive and $50 a year for XBL seems like some major milkage right there and they're supporting a format that's getting it's a$$ handed to it by a ratio of 9:2 I can't wait to see what happens when 300 comes out on Blu-Ray, I think Sony is thinking of the long run, whiles MS is clearly thinking about the short run and trying to match Sony, 3 SKUs, adding HDMI, adding a HD-DVD add on, a black console, bigger hard-drive. Sony discontinuing the 20GB is smart considering they're losing money on making it and it is losing to the 60GB by a ratio of 10:1 so how is this a stupid move? If you knew anything about supply and demand you wouldn't even post this thread btw I'm 14 so if your older than that's pretty sad to be outsmarted...

EDIT: and btw a $100 price drop for the 60GB PS3 is seeming more and more likely this year.

1) Removal of the Emotion Engine chip for Software emulation drops production cost

2) Blu-Ray dropping in price this year and becoming the dominant winner

3) New 65nm Cell Processors cost less to produce

4) The newest one, the discontinuation of the 20GB model

5)Sales for the ps3 should grow because of the MK2 5.00 downloads

6)they suprise everyone with a price drop to 475$.:P

Now if only number 6 would happen,lmao.

yeah lmao that'd be good, but people also act like the PS3 will ALWAYS be $600, and it won't it will definately drop in price and I presume soon too.

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#86 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

ramey70

If you don't have any bills to pay than yes $100 isn't a lot. :(

 

 

Again, if $100 can affect your ability to pay bills you don't need to be playing video games.

  

Nice try Fanboy.
First off it's not $100 like you try to spin it. It's the $100 different from the versions. The price is $100 you mentioned plus $500 for the PS3 plus tax. That's a lot for let's say a single mother that has a certain budget for christmas or a birthday for her son or sons. Stop being a demeaning human being by talking about people the way you guys do like people are cheap and poor or whatever. And your spin job of trying to say $100 is the problem in pricing is laughable.

You see this is why the Wii is doing so well. That same single mother can but a Wii for $250 plus tax and it comes with a game for her kids. And she doesn't have to spend so much just to play one game on a PS3. Or a 360 if that pricing is to high for too even with all the bundles out with the Premium model now.

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#87 2largeadults
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Again, if $100 can affect your ability to pay bills you don't need to be playing video games. ramey70

So true.

If the jump from the 20GB model to the 60GB model makes you stop and pause, perhaps gaming isn't the most suitable hobby. 

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#88 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]Because Sony didn't give any notice that they were going to do this. Anyone here that has a 20gb PS3 do they feel betrayed by Sony?kcpp2b

No, because they could have bought the 60 gig back then too.

They're probably happy that they bought the 20 gig, because that's the model which is no longer available.

I was going to get the 20gb PS3 sometime this summer but now I have will have to wait longer to save more money. :(

 

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

1. $100 bucks is the difference between 20gb and 60gb meaning the real figure is $200 between Prem 360 and 60GB ps3.

2. How can you stand yourself? Making such a comment like that. Some people have bills to pay, kids to feed, work two jobs. And $100 is nothing to you. Well I'm glad you think so and that kind of dumb thinking is why the Wii is destroying the competition and why many people are not getting an xbox for the first time with the 360. 

No there question was Premium PS3 or the core one. The $100 Difference

How MAny Bills can you pay with $100 Dollars??????

Look at anyone's cost of living , then tell me a $100 dollar a month is so much,

I mean, If you're boss gave you a $100 Raise a month, are you gonna be Happy

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#89 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

kcpp2b

If you don't have any bills to pay than yes $100 isn't a lot. :(

 

 

Again, if $100 can affect your ability to pay bills you don't need to be playing video games.

Nice try Fanboy.
First off it's not $100 like you try to spin it. It's the $100 different from the versions. The price is $100 you mentioned plus $500 for the PS3 plus tax. That's a lot for let's say a single mother that has a certain budget for christmas or a birthday for her son or sons. Stop being a demeaning human being by talking about people the way you guys do like people are cheap and poor or whatever. And your spin job of trying to say $100 is the problem in pricing is laughable.

You see this is why the Wii is doing so well. That same single mother can but a Wii for $250 plus tax and it comes with a game for her kids. And she doesn't have to spend so much just to play one game on a PS3. Or a 360 if that pricing is to high for too even with all the bundles out with the Premium model now.

 

You missed the earlier post this was referring to when PS-3DO claimed that the $100 difference would keep him from buying a PS3.  And yes, I do know what I'm talking about.  I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lender.   I judge people's financial situations for a living. 

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#90 Screamteam411
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The 20GB was discontinued because it's selling like crap, the 60GB is selling amazingly well in comparison, and the 80GB is supposedly on the way.

 At least, that's the story as far as I know it.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

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#91 mushi799
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="2largeadults"]

[QUOTE="Heith"]So SCEA cannot afford to produce a cheaper model? You all are conceding the point I'm making..2largeadults

Yes. That's exactly right. The financial health of the company hinges on the disposal of the 20GB PS3.

:::::giggles uncontrollably:::::

It was a $100 cheaper. I think Sony only wants to win in the next-gen DVD format war.

 

Really? Sony seems greedy to me. I think they want to win in the next-gen DVD format war and the game console war.

free online = not greedy.

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#92 mushi799
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The 20GB was discontinued because it's selling like crap, the 60GB is selling amazingly well in comparison, and the 80GB is supposedly on the way.

At least, that's the story as far as I know it. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Screamteam411

 

most likely, i heard it could be 80 or a 100.  The 60gig will probably be lowered to the $499 range. 

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Its suprising Sony is discontinuing it so early but they will probably go with the 60 gig and a higher gig like the rumored 80 gig to match the Elite.
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#94 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

s the difference between 20gb and 60gb meaning the real figure is $200 between Prem 360 and 60GB ps3.

2. How can you stand yourself? Making such a comment like that. Some people have bills to pay, kids to feed, work two jobs. And $100 is nothing to you. Well I'm glad you think so and that kind of dumb thinking is why the Wii is destroying the competition and why many people are not getting an xbox for the first time with the 360.

Blinblingthing

No there question was Premium PS3 or the core one. The $100 Difference

How MAny Bills can you pay with $100 Dollars??????

Look at anyone's cost of living , then tell me a $100 dollar a month is so much,

I mean, If you're boos gave you a $100 Raise a month, are you gonna be Happy

Wow so $100 a month is nothing right. Funny with how high the percentage of American's make the around or below or exactly the mininmum wage for their state. Some people need $100 for food for their kids, pay off one final bill. Or maybe some people can at times save up $50 a month. What should they get their kids for christmas? A PS3 or a Wii?
And let's say their kids had a PS2 before....ofcourse you say screw the PS3 and now with the 20GB model gone its more reason to not get a PS3 for certain people.

For me the 20GB wash $599.99 here in Canada and still too much for me...especially with no games but a movie...thanks.
But now without that model that means the PS3 is $200 more then what I would pay for and still without a game for the moment, that will change in the holidays I know. But I doubt we will see a $200 price drop anytime soon along with some free game or games with your purchase like I got with my 360

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#95 ANti_RiCeR
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[QUOTE="-PS360-"]

so how is "half the battle" done? because an inferior sku cannot be financially supported anymore?

Heith

I fixed it, you're welcome.

DUAH. most companies would do that if they were losing money. its simple buisness, and like others have said why sell something still if no one wants it. Ton's more people baught the 60GB model over the 20 so they should sell what the people want so they wont have stock sitting on shelves.  

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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

100 bucks isnt alot of money unless you're like 13.

ramey70

If you don't have any bills to pay than yes $100 isn't a lot. :(

 

 

Again, if $100 can affect your ability to pay bills you don't need to be playing video games.

Nice try Fanboy.
First off it's not $100 like you try to spin it. It's the $100 different from the versions. The price is $100 you mentioned plus $500 for the PS3 plus tax. That's a lot for let's say a single mother that has a certain budget for christmas or a birthday for her son or sons. Stop being a demeaning human being by talking about people the way you guys do like people are cheap and poor or whatever. And your spin job of trying to say $100 is the problem in pricing is laughable.

You see this is why the Wii is doing so well. That same single mother can but a Wii for $250 plus tax and it comes with a game for her kids. And she doesn't have to spend so much just to play one game on a PS3. Or a 360 if that pricing is to high for too even with all the bundles out with the Premium model now.

 

You missed the earlier post this was referring to when PS-3DO claimed that the $100 difference would keep him from buying a PS3.  And yes, I do know what I'm talking about.  I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lender.   I judge people's financial situations for a living. 

damn thats some massive ownage right there lol
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hooray! sony is being stupid! now only a matter of time before the 60 GB model stops and Nintendo and Microsoft will reign!!!1
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Wow so $100 a month is nothing right. Funny with how high the percentage of American's make the around or below or exactly the mininmum wage for their state. Some people need $100 for food for their kids, pay off one final bill. Or maybe some people can at times save up $50 a month. What should they get their kids for christmas? A PS3 or a Wii?kcpp2b

Neither one.

Bad example. 

$50 a month.

Equals $600 a year.

That family has more important concerns than a gaming console. 

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[QUOTE="Screamteam411"]

The 20GB was discontinued because it's selling like crap, the 60GB is selling amazingly well in comparison, and the 80GB is supposedly on the way.

At least, that's the story as far as I know it. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

mushi799

 

most likely, i heard it could be 80 or a 100.  The 60gig will probably be lowered to the $499 range. 

Sounds like a Good move to me

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#100 kcpp2b
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You missed the earlier post this was referring to when PS-3DO claimed that the $100 difference would keep him from buying a PS3. And yes, I do know what I'm talking about. I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lender. I judge people's financial situations for a living.

ramey70

Well this drop of the 20GB will push back when I will buy a PS3. Cause I was gonna wait for a price drop but now I will have to wait for two price drops cause now the 60GB at $100 more is the only model I can buy.