2010 will be even BETTER for Ps3 exclusives than 2009

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#51 noble_aryan
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[QUOTE="noble_aryan"]im talkin about exclusives so no i guess im right. lost nd damned got a average score of 8 i believe....link other wiseStevo_the_gamer
Perhaps you should choose your words more carefully next time.

o wow 1 site gave it a 9. one site i neva heard of. ign gave it a 8.....nd gta 4 itself is a very boring game so i dun care nd lost n damned will sone come to ps3 too when their contract with M$ is over
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#52 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

I see when fanboys are shown a list of great exclusives they run behind sales :?, I suppose back in 07 it was Wii >> PS3 > 360, right?

Stevo_the_gamer

Back in 2007, cows couldn't hide behind anything -- that's how poor the PS3 was doing. Back then, in terms of sales and exclusives, the PS3 was in dead last place.

Actually back in 07 the PS3 out sold the 360 worldwide....so if lems want to play the sales card then they have to realized PS3 > 360 in 07.

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The Lost & Damned has not been reviewed by Gamespot, so it is irrelevant for the purposes of the argument.raynimrod
It still exists whether you like it or not. :|
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o wow 1 site gave it a 9. one site i neva heard of. ign gave it a 8.....nd gta 4 itself is a very boring game so i dun care nd lost n damned will sone come to ps3 too when their contract with M$ is overnoble_aryan
You don't even know what Metacritic even is... do you?

Actually back in 07 the PS3 out sold the 360 worldwide....so if lems want to play the sales card then they have to realized PS3 > 360 in 07.

W1NGMAN-

Did it? All I remember from statements like so were from VGchartz or PS3 blogs (unless you can provide a link). Nevertheless, it's irrelevant anyways -- the pS3 was still dead last in sales and exclusives and with all that, had some of the best damn funny PR I've ever seen.

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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]The Lost & Damned has not been reviewed by Gamespot, so it is irrelevant for the purposes of the argument.Stevo_the_gamer
It still exists whether you like it or not. :|



Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

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#56 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

raynimrod

I stand corrected then; therefore, think of it as a sidepoint -- Lost and Damned is an AAAE elsewhere (or nearly everywhere else). It still holds merit in the argument for it does exist, and it is a damn very well good expansion to GTAIV.

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PS3 fans are so up on the PS3 they dont realize that the Wi upcoming exclusive lineup dominates their own, as do its sales.
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#58 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Agreed, it looks great. But I'd wait a little before saying that the next Metal Gear will come 2010.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]The Lost & Damned has not been reviewed by Gamespot, so it is irrelevant for the purposes of the argument.raynimrod

It still exists whether you like it or not. :|



Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

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#60 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

IronBass

Wasn't that only derterming which system "won" systemwars?

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[QUOTE="noble_aryan"]o wow 1 site gave it a 9. one site i neva heard of. ign gave it a 8.....nd gta 4 itself is a very boring game so i dun care nd lost n damned will sone come to ps3 too when their contract with M$ is overStevo_the_gamer

You don't even know what Metacritic even is... do you?

Actually back in 07 the PS3 out sold the 360 worldwide....so if lems want to play the sales card then they have to realized PS3 > 360 in 07.

W1NGMAN-

Did it? All I remember from statements like so were from VGchartz or PS3 blogs (unless you can provide a link). Nevertheless, it's irrelevant anyways -- the pS3 was still dead last in sales and exclusives and with all that, had some of the best damn funny PR I've ever seen.

It's relevent in the fact that people in this thread are pushing sales over quality software when in fact it's the software that determines how well a console is performing here. If we did things by sales it would look like this....

2006 Year of the 360 (By Default)

2007 Year of the Wii

2008 Year of the Wii

2009 Year of the Wii

Not sure how lems could try and spin sales as the end all be all yet turn around and crown the 360 in 07 when in fact it sold the least amount of consoles that year.

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PS3 fans are so up on the PS3 they dont realize that the Wi upcoming exclusive lineup dominates their own, as do its sales.Maglovin

Well you're free to list some upcoming Wii exclusives, that's the reason this thread was made in the first place...to get a good debate going.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

Stevo_the_gamer

Wasn't that only derterming which system "won" systemwars?

No. Anarchy is overall.
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#64 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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*blah*

Not sure how lems could try and spin sales as the end all be all yet turn around and crown the 360 in 07 when in fact it sold the least amount of consoles that year.

W1NGMAN-

I'm still waiting on that link.

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#65 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="IronBass"] No. Anarchy is overall.

Are you sure?
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="IronBass"] No. Anarchy is overall.

Are you sure?

Yes, yes I am.
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]It still exists whether you like it or not. :|IronBass



Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

games > sales was the only official result.

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#68 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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games > sales was the only official result.

CaseyWegner

Are you referring to your poll that you had a few years back, or cakeordeaths?

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sales was the only official result.CaseyWegner
Not really. People uses the sources they want since then, use whatever argument they consider fit etc etc.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]sales was the only official result.IronBass
Not really. People uses the sources they want since then, use whatever argument they consider fit etc etc.

you really think that?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]games > sales was the only official result.

Stevo_the_gamer

Are you referring to your poll that you had a few years back, or cakeordeaths?

it was a collaboration.

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2 AAA's does not make this year of the PS3. Id rather have 6 AAE's and 6 AE's for PC. more quality titles to buy.

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#73 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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you really think that?CaseyWegner
Yes, yes I do.
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And the 360 is going to have in 2010.

  • Alan Wake
  • Forza 3
  • Crackdown 2
  • Lost Planet 2
  • APB -MMO
  • Rare Game

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you really think that?IronBass
Yes, yes I do.

how is it different than before the farce of a vote?

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how is it different than before the farce of a vote?CaseyWegner
In a lot of ways. I'm just too busy right now to list them. I'll gladly do it another time :)
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]how is it different than before the farce of a vote?IronBass
In a lot of ways. I'm just too busy right now to list them. I'll gladly do it another time :)

surely you have time for at least two examples.

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[QUOTE="Maglovin"]PS3 fans are so up on the PS3 they dont realize that the Wi upcoming exclusive lineup dominates their own, as do its sales.W1NGMAN-

Well you're free to list some upcoming Wii exclusives, that's the reason this thread was made in the first place...to get a good debate going.

sure I'll copy and paste from the other thread New Zelda + Mario + Pikmin 3 confirmed by Miyamoto Tatsunoma vs Capcom Tact of Magic No More Hero's 2 Murumasa Demon Blade Sin and Punishment 2 Cosmic Walker Dynamic Slash Monster Hunter 3 Red Steel 2 The Conduit Cosmic Walker Punchout Boom Blox 2 Dragon Quest X The Grinder Gladiator AD Trace Memory Endless Oceon 2 Spyborgs Dead Space Extraction Sky Crawlers TMNT Smashup Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles Anno Little Kings Story Final Fantasy CC Arc Rise Fantasia Cursed Mountain Ju-On Tales of Grace Trauma Center Hospital
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#79 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]*blah*

Not sure how lems could try and spin sales as the end all be all yet turn around and crown the 360 in 07 when in fact it sold the least amount of consoles that year.

Stevo_the_gamer

I'm still waiting on that link.

PS3 at 9.12 million sold worldwide, I'm looking for the 360's total hardware sales for that year but I'm having such a hard time. :evil:

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Casey, does that poll in any way negate the fact that only GS scores matter here on SW? Because I think IronBass is suggesting that even games not reviewed by GS can hold weight or merit when discussing its score.


As per this statement.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

IronBass

Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

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Casey, does that poll in any way negate the fact that only GS scores matter here on SW? Because I think IronBass is suggesting that even games not reviewed by GS can hold weight or merit when discussing its score.


As per this statement.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Stevo, its existance has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument. The argument is based around AAA(E) games. A game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot can NOT be included in your argument.

System Wars does not recognise game review scores from other sites.

raynimrod

Not really.

"Anarchy" won the official poll. If GS reviewed it or not is irrelevant.

gamespot has long been the deciding factor.

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surely you have time for at least two examples.CaseyWegner

I already mentioned two: people using the review source they want (not only GS, GR tend to be used A LOT here) and whatever argument they consider valid (DL games, DLC, additional features, etc, not only the "GS AAA, AA, A list").

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gamespot has long been the deciding factor.CaseyWegner
The other way around. GS has long NOT been the deciding factor.
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#84 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Yes, yes I do.IronBass

how is it different than before the farce of a vote?

I already mentioned two: people using the review source they want (not only GS, GR tend to be used A LOT here) and whatever argument they consider valid (DL games, DLC, additional features, etc, not only the "GS AAA, AA, A list").

no. i asked how things were different before the vote.

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#85 raynimrod
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gamespot has long been the deciding factor.

CaseyWegner



Thank you. I have seen the argument many times, comparing GR or Metacritic scores with those here on GS. The end result, at least where you have stepped in, is that GS scores are the only ones that matter when calling games A, AA, AAA, flops etc.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]gamespot has long been the deciding factor.IronBass
The other way around. GS has long NOT been the deciding factor.

games beat sales in the valid vote. gamespot has been the official review source since the prior generation.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gamespot has long been the deciding factor.

raynimrod



Thank you. I have seen the argument many times, comparing GR or Metacritic scores with those here on GS. The end result, at least where you have stepped in, is that GS scores are the only ones that matter when calling games A, AA, AAA, flops etc.

That won't stop anyone for using GR.

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#88 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gamespot has long been the deciding factor.

IronBass



Thank you. I have seen the argument many times, comparing GR or Metacritic scores with those here on GS. The end result, at least where you have stepped in, is that GS scores are the only ones that matter when calling games A, AA, AAA, flops etc.

That won't stop anyone for using GR.



No it won't, but regardless of whether they use it or not. If it isn't the GS score, if it isn't the GS review and if it isn't the GS hype, it doesn't count.

That's all that matters.

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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gamespot has long been the deciding factor.

IronBass



Thank you. I have seen the argument many times, comparing GR or Metacritic scores with those here on GS. The end result, at least where you have stepped in, is that GS scores are the only ones that matter when calling games A, AA, AAA, flops etc.

That won't stop anyone for using GR.

nobody was stopping them before. it's like disagreeing with the judges over a boxing match. you may not agree with them but their decision is the official one.

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games beat sales in the valid vote. gamespot has been the official review source since the prior generation.>CaseyWegner
Neither are sales.
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nobody was stopping them before.CaseyWegner
I didn't say somebody was.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]games beat sales in the valid vote. gamespot has been the official review source since the prior generation.>IronBass
Neither are sales.

the "sales > games" argument was soundly defeated.

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the "sales > games" argument was soundly defeated.CaseyWegner
And? I haven't said "sales > games".
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the "sales > games" argument was soundly defeated.IronBass
And? I haven't said "sales > games".

then what in the world are you talking about? :|

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Screw it I'm gonna stop looking for the 360s 07 total sales, it's your turn to look for them stevo.

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then what in the world are you talking about? :|CaseyWegner
That if GS reviewed L&D or not is irrelevant. It is still a valid argument that favors the 360 (if somebody believes a DLC expansion is a valid argument, of course).
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] yea, i'd rather play sales that infamous and killzone 2 too! /sarcasm. when will people learn that sales don't matter?RM84x

Yep sales don't mean any thing, which is why Killzone 2 and infamous will have low sales compared because they are amazing AAAAAAAE games? right? Sales don't mean any thing, people buy trash quite often and don't actually want to, or like to buy good games they infact hate doing that. Which is why all good games don't sell well and only bad games sell well right?

No one goes to gamerankings. The only 2 reviews that matter are IGN and GameSpot. Where inFAMOUS scored 9.2 and 9/10.

they dont? Then i guess Gamerankings rank of 9,553 means nothing then? shouldn't it be 0 hits a day then? 4.034 rank for metacritic means no one goes to that site either?

using one site is the sign of someone trying to hide behind something, you dont like the ranking it gets so you say but but but we only use gamespot then when gamespot doesn't score a game what you deem right *a ps3 all ways* then you use ign or another source.
I'll just continue to use gamerankings and metacritic continuely no matter the system or game specially so since both sites are owned by the company that owns gamespot and specially so since down at the bottom of this page are links to...what? gamerankings.com and metacritic.com

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#98 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]then what in the world are you talking about? :|IronBass
That if GS reviewed L&D or not is irrelevant. It is still a valid argument that favors the 360 (if somebody believes a DLC expansion is a valid argument, of course).

kinda hard to compare a game that's been reviewed to one that hasn't here, isn't it?

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#99 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Yep sales don't mean any thing, which is why Killzone 2 and infamous will have low sales compared because they are amazing AAAAAAAE games? right? Sales don't mean any thing, people buy trash quite often and don't actually want to, or like to buy good games they infact hate doing that. Which is why all good games don't sell well and only bad games sell well right?WilliamRLBaker

No one goes to gamerankings. The only 2 reviews that matter are IGN and GameSpot. Where inFAMOUS scored 9.2 and 9/10.

they dont? Then i guess Gamerankings rank of 9,553 means nothing then? shouldn't it be 0 hits a day then? 4.034 rank for metacritic means no one goes to that site either?

That's nice and dandy but were here at GS where these review scores only matter.

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kinda hard to compare a game that's been reviewed to one that hasn't here, isn't it?CaseyWegner
A lot reviewed games are "kinda hard to compare", too, yet we do it all the time. Besides, L&D has been reviewed by a lot of sites, so we have a fair indication of if it is a quality addition or nor.