360 Fans.. Getting nervous? 2008 around the corner.. No Killer APPS announced

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#51 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="turgore"]Ninja Gaiden 2 ? Fable 2 ? Lost Odyssey ? Alan Wake ? ChristopherM80

im tellin you man, those games might be good but admit it.. they arent system movers, for instance when you say MGS4 to the average gamer the first thing they say is something like "OMG that game looks so sweet" or "OMG im so getting a PS3 when it comes out" if you talk to the average gamer and bring up alan wake, ninja gaiden 2 or fable 2 they either A. havent heard of them or B. arent intrested in them.. Just face it man, so far MS has NOTHING that can match the hype for MGS4 in 2008 its ok man.. MS had 2 hype machines in a row the last 2 years.. Gears and Halo, they need a break

question: so what happens to the ps3 in 2009? after all those sequals have been released and sony has to dish out new IPs? yes MGS4 is a proven series..but what about killzone2? despite what you want to believe..killzone is not an well known series.

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#52 Animal-Mother
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This thread reeks of desperation and disappointment. With just a hint of optimism being over clouded by the undeserved sense of superiority.BreakingPoint8

i see from your little banner it seems you like devil may cry, i wonder what system did thta originally come out for? Did you own a ps2 or something, or you just really like what sony had and still has to offer

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#53 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

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The 360 has unproven franchises whereas the PS3 has... Little Big Planet and Killzone 2? What are you talking about?

ChristopherM80

You do realize that MGS4 alone is enough to overshadow all the 360 games coming out next year?!


Banjo>MGS4
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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]This thread reeks of desperation and disappointment. With just a hint of optimism being over clouded by the undeserved sense of superiority.Animal-Mother



i see from your little banner it seems you like devil may cry, i wonder what system did thta originally come out for?


PS2, butsince the PS3 was doing so poor in sales capcom is making it multiplat, that should telll you something.
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#55 Pripyat
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Mass Effect will be the last biggest MS exclusive release for a good good while.ChristopherM80

People said the same thing after Halo 3, but somehow those pesky big exclusives just keeps coming :roll:

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#56 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]This thread reeks of desperation and disappointment. With just a hint of optimism being over clouded by the undeserved sense of superiority.darkslider99



i see from your little banner it seems you like devil may cry, i wonder what system did thta originally come out for?


PS2, butsince the PS3 was doing so poor in sales capcom is making it multiplat, that should telll you something.

uhh yeah sure, thats why every other freaking game is coming out miltiplat right because game developers just really want to offer everyone a piece of their work, it's all about the benjamins today

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#57 Blackbond
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I'll worry about 2008 when it comes. I have tons of games to play now in 2007.
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#58 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

Impex

dude lets face it, you know it and i know it that while Banjo, NG2 and fable 2 will be great, they arent exactly what many would consider "Killer apps" Im talking about KILLER APPS. Games that make people skip school and call in sick for work, games that will MOVE systems. Im talking about the Gears of war, Halo and COD4 type of games and lets face it.. 360 doesnt have anything of that level announced so far

When Killzone 2 and MGS4 hit, you can rest assured the gaming world will be BUZZING


Banjo is a killer app..for me anyways... I'm buying a 360 for Banjo. Banjo is an amazing series. Nintendo and Rare splitting was the worst thing to ever happen to nintendo (awsome company still, and awsome games -but major blow to them)

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#59 Art_424
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[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

i-lick-monkeys

LBP is proven already

How?, When?

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#60 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

Art_424

LBP is proven already

How?, When?

frm all the good previews. you know, like the ones that LAIR got.
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#61 darkslider99
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What a minute. Why are we arguing with this guy? He's obviously just making flamebait, or a fakeboy. Honestly now, he claimed either banjo was an unproven series or not appealing to casual gamers
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[QUOTE="turgore"]Ninja Gaiden 2 ? Fable 2 ? Lost Odyssey ? Alan Wake ? ChristopherM80

im tellin you man, those games might be good but admit it.. they arent system movers, for instance when you say MGS4 to the average gamer the first thing they say is something like "OMG that game looks so sweet" or "OMG im so getting a PS3 when it comes out" if you talk to the average gamer and bring up alan wake, ninja gaiden 2 or fable 2 they either A. havent heard of them or B. arent intrested in them.. Just face it man, so far MS has NOTHING that can match the hype for MGS4 in 2008 its ok man.. MS had 2 hype machines in a row the last 2 years.. Gears and Halo, they need a break

alan wake is impressive

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#63 TiberiusKane
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Halo Wars. Ensemble made ones of the best selling PC games with Age of Empires 2. Add them and the Halo brand name together and you get a mega hit. I know you might say RTS and consoles don't mix but that was the exact thing people said about FPS and consoles before Halo. Goldeneye and PD were considered exceptions to the rule and so was Halo for a long while but attitudes towards console FPS have definitely changed since the start of last generation. The same could happen with RTS.
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#64 fixer293
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This thread is nothing but deperation propaganda.
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#65 smugdarkloser12
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[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]Ninja Gaiden 2 ? Fable 2 ? Lost Odyssey ? Alan Wake ? Ncsoftlover

im tellin you man, those games might be good but admit it.. they arent system movers, for instance when you say MGS4 to the average gamer the first thing they say is something like "OMG that game looks so sweet" or "OMG im so getting a PS3 when it comes out" if you talk to the average gamer and bring up alan wake, ninja gaiden 2 or fable 2 they either A. havent heard of them or B. arent intrested in them.. Just face it man, so far MS has NOTHING that can match the hype for MGS4 in 2008 its ok man.. MS had 2 hype machines in a row the last 2 years.. Gears and Halo, they need a break

alan wake is impressive

it is. it seems to be a very open story driven horror/ thriller game. seems awesome.

I think Lost Odyssey will be the best out of the bunch followed by Fable. then again, im a rpg w****.

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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]This thread reeks of desperation and disappointment. With just a hint of optimism being over clouded by the undeserved sense of superiority.Animal-Mother

i see from your little banner it seems you like devil may cry, i wonder what system did thta originally come out for? Did you own a ps2 or something, or you just really like what sony had and still has to offer

Playstation 2 which I loved, I own a Playstation 3 but it's far from my favorite.

For me, at the moment it goes Xbox 360 > Wii > Playstation 3.

But in all honesty for me it doesn't matter where a game makes it's debut, all that matters is who made it and continues to make it. In this case it's Capcom, who is a third-pary developer. I buy consoles for games, not loyalty, especially not towards Sony, that's like staying loyal to a husband who beats you.

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#67 johnusabeis
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so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

Awinagainov
haha !! this thread was ended at this post.... and only 3 responses into it i might add.
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[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

Awinagainov

LBP is proven already

How?, When?

frm all the good previews. you know, like the ones that LAIR got.

awesome, so we can expect a similar outcome as Lair!....lol :lol:

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#69 Toyeboy
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I'm a 360 fan/owner and why would I be nervous about 2008 when Ninja Gaiden 2 is coming out which IS a killer APP along with several other great titles, even the third party titles alone would keep 360 from going anywhere!! Why would I be nervous about my gaming system any way though?? It's not like I have stocks inM$...if 360 failed I would just move on with my life, sure 360 is fun, but it'snot like I care about M$, they take my money.
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#70 Big_Boss465
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I will probably be playing my PS3 more next year, but I'm really excited for games like Fable 2, Alan Wake, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, and Halo Wars on 360.
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#71 Blue-Sky
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Microsoft already released their killer apps. :|

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#72 Heil68
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If the only game that comes out for the 360 in 2008 in Ninja Gaiden II, Ill be a happy man.
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#73 myke2010
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Why in the world would any 360 fan be nervous. The 360 had a great year with awesome titles and 2007 isn't even over yet. Then next year there are more amazing titles due.

Yeah, the PS3 has some really high profile titles due and that 's great and all, but so do the other systems. I love how cows try to say only their titles qualify as killer apps that people really care about and all major titles for other systems aren't on the same level, despite the fact that one of their big titles is an unproven IP and another is a sequel to an incredibly average FPS. FF and GT are most likely 2009 releases as both Polyphony and SquareEnix are notorious for pushing back release dates leaveing MGS4 as the only true guarenteed powerhouse exclusive next year.

On the other hand you have the 360 with NG2, Fable 2 and Banjo 3(sequels to high quality titles) as well as games like Halo Wars (from the makers of Age of Empires) and Too Human (from Silicon Knights).

Don't forget the Wii with SSBB (most likely one of the best games of 08), Mario Kart and Spore.

All 3 systems have big titles lined up for 2006. While it's nice the PS3 is getting some big names next year, quit acting like this makes them special in any way. Also don't forget that there's stilll plenty of time to announce big titles for next holiday season, so 2008 is far from beinga lock for any console.

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#74 Bren128
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so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

Awinagainov

lol at fable being a proven franchise, no Final fantasy is a proven franchise.

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#76 Frostbite24
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I'm sorry MGS is a great series but it is in no way a killer app. Face the facts cows.
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#77 Bren128
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I'm sorry MGS is a great series but it is in no way a killer app. Face the facts cows.Frostbite24

why not? The series has sold millions.......

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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]I'm sorry MGS is a great series but it is in no way a killer app. Face the facts cows.Bren128

why not? The series has sold millions.......

yeah, millions between the Playstation AND the Xbox....

It will not move many consoles like a killer app is supposed.

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I'm sorry MGS is a great series but it is in no way a killer app. Face the facts cows.Frostbite24

I'd have to disagree with you there. I don't like the MGS at all, but it is crazy popular, and there are plenty of people that will buy a PS3 just for that game.
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Microsoft will die in 6 weeks! :OBansheesdie

ZOMG!!

Fable 2 and Too Human are enough for me personally. Alongside games like Halo 3, TF2, GTA IV,and Mass Effect 2008 will be a very busy year if I continue to only own a 360 (Know in the market for a Crysis grade computer)

I would wait alittle while to upgrade that PC to play Crysis. I would like to play it to but looking at GS hardware guide, Crysis was made with future GPUs in mind. They show that playing Crysis at highest settings in DirectX10 laughs at the highest end GPUs. The 8800GTX in SLI can only run it at 37 fps. I am waiting awhile. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6182806/p-5.html

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#81 Bren128
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[QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]I'm sorry MGS is a great series but it is in no way a killer app. Face the facts cows.Frostbite24

why not? The series has sold millions.......

yeah, millions between the Playstation AND the Xbox....

It will not move many consoles like a killer app is supposed.

well i guess we wont know for sure until the games released, but MGS does have a huge fanbase. Definately bigger then anything released on the 360 next year...

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[QUOTE="turgore"]Ninja Gaiden 2 ? Fable 2 ? Lost Odyssey ? Alan Wake ? ChristopherM80

im tellin you man, those games might be good but admit it.. they arent system movers, for instance when you say MGS4 to the average gamer the first thing they say is something like "OMG that game looks so sweet" or "OMG im so getting a PS3 when it comes out" if you talk to the average gamer and bring up alan wake, ninja gaiden 2 or fable 2 they either A. havent heard of them or B. arent intrested in them.. Just face it man, so far MS has NOTHING that can match the hype for MGS4 in 2008 its ok man.. MS had 2 hype machines in a row the last 2 years.. Gears and Halo, they need a break

Ninja gaiden 2 is not system mover ? OMG what a noob

Last ninja gaiden got 9.4 and sold like hell

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#84 goku234
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we are not getting nervous because you know what ??

we have more exclusives .. than you and youre loosing them

and we have good online

you can have MGS4 but how much is going to last ??? i mean youre online s***s

and we have mm exlusive GTA 4 content :P

YOU FACE IT !!!

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#85 Gamersince81
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I dont see the big deal unless your a fanboy. PS3 will own "08". Whoever disagrees are fanboys!! I wouldnt count Killzone 2 as being a multi million seller. I count GT5 and MGS4 as multi million sellers and many lemmings buying a PS3 to play MGS4.
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#86 DaysAirlines
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Lemmings were nervous when the PS3 came out in 2006, nervous around March, nervous around the first price cut. So yeah I guess, depends on your definition of nervous.
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#87 fixer293
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I dont see the big deal unless your a fanboy. PS3 will own "08". Whoever disagrees are fanboys!! I wouldnt count Killzone 2 as being a multi million seller. I count GT5 and MGS4 as multi million sellers and many lemmings buying a PS3 to play MGS4. Gamersince81

No one knows what will happen in "08", so look in the mirror before posting this stuff, and calling others fanboy.I remeber lemmings were supposed to be nervous of "Lair" and "Ratchet and Clank", you saw what happened there.

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[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]Ninja Gaiden 2 ? Fable 2 ? Lost Odyssey ? Alan Wake ? tupapi006

im tellin you man, those games might be good but admit it.. they arent system movers, for instance when you say MGS4 to the average gamer the first thing they say is something like "OMG that game looks so sweet" or "OMG im so getting a PS3 when it comes out" if you talk to the average gamer and bring up alan wake, ninja gaiden 2 or fable 2 they either A. havent heard of them or B. arent intrested in them.. Just face it man, so far MS has NOTHING that can match the hype for MGS4 in 2008 its ok man.. MS had 2 hype machines in a row the last 2 years.. Gears and Halo, they need a break

Ninja gaiden 2 is not system mover ? OMG what a noob

Last ninja gaiden got 9.4 and sold like hell

uh actually NG didnt sell very well at all, its hardly a system seller. it didnt even sell 1 million.

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#89 club-sandwich
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isnt alan wake coming to ps3 as well?Animal-Mother
nope, just Vista/X360
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#90 club-sandwich
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Killzone 2 system seller? :lol: that's what cows said about R&C and Lair :lol:
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#91 XYZVector
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Mass Effect will be the last biggest MS exclusive release for a good good while. So what does MS have in store for 2008?! And no i dont mean multiplats such as GTA IV, Dark Sector, Army of two or Devil May Cry. I mean as far as exclusives go, ok Too Human yea might be ok, but come on.. MS has its work cut out for them in 2008, they have to announce something to overshadow MGS4, Killzone 2, GT5 and Little Big Planet.

Now I know what most of you are going to say.. You are going to throw names at me like Lost Odyssey, Banjo, Alan Wake, Halo Wars,Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fable 2. Grant it those might be great games but you have to understand that half of those are unproven franchises while the other half are titles that wont appeal to the average casual..

So what will MS do to counter MGS4, Killzone 2, Little big planet and GT5?. Everyone knows that when MGS4 hits, IT WILL BE HUGE and OMG dont even get me started on Killzone 2, if that game turns out to be good it will OWN 2008. Another thing to keep in mind is the 36's popularity was built on online multiplayer games NONE of the exclusives announced so far for next year are multiplayer heavy.. bottom line is, if MS doesnt announce Gears of war 2 for 2008 or something extraordinary, then they have A LOT OF WORK TO DO!

ChristopherM80

No Fanboy it will getthe multiplat heavy hitters,and more... What is the PS3 offering no really I own one, a few exclusives, but mostly delays...

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#92 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

Mass Effect will be the last biggest MS exclusive release for a good good while. So what does MS have in store for 2008?! And no i dont mean multiplats such as GTA IV, Dark Sector, Army of two or Devil May Cry. I mean as far as exclusives go, ok Too Human yea might be ok, but come on.. MS has its work cut out for them in 2008, they have to announce something to overshadow MGS4, Killzone 2, GT5 and Little Big Planet.

Now I know what most of you are going to say.. You are going to throw names at me like Lost Odyssey, Banjo, Alan Wake, Halo Wars,Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fable 2. Grant it those might be great games but you have to understand that half of those are unproven franchises while the other half are titles that wont appeal to the average casual..

So what will MS do to counter MGS4, Killzone 2, Little big planet and GT5?. Everyone knows that when MGS4 hits, IT WILL BE HUGE and OMG dont even get me started on Killzone 2, if that game turns out to be good it will OWN 2008. Another thing to keep in mind is the 36's popularity was built on online multiplayer games NONE of the exclusives announced so far for next year are multiplayer heavy.. bottom line is, if MS doesnt announce Gears of war 2 for 2008 or something extraordinary, then they have A LOT OF WORK TO DO!

ChristopherM80

Such self ownage.

The 360 has unproven franchises whereas the PS3 has... Little Big Planet and Killzone 2? What are you talking about?

You do realize that MGS4 alone is enough to overshadow all the 360 games coming out next year?!

Actually, no. I'll take Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Banjo, and Halo Wars over MGS4 any day of the week.

And guess what? I'm pretty sure any sensible gamer would say the same thing. ;)

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#93 DaysAirlines
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Killzone 2 system seller? :lol: that's what cows said about R&C and Lair :lol:club-sandwich
And Motorstorm, and Heavenly Sword. But they really mean it this time.
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#94 michael098
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[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

so the 360 has unproven franchizes?

what about killzone? proven?

LBP? Proven?

also, it seems to me that MGS4 is just a cash in n gears gameplay with about 100 hours of movies

and if you want proven franchizes, just look at NG2, banjo 3, and fable 2

ChristopherM80

dude lets face it, you know it and i know it that while Banjo, NG2 and fable 2 will be great, they arent exactly what many would consider "Killer apps" Im talking about KILLER APPS. Games that make people skip school and call in sick for work, games that will MOVE systems. Im talking about the Gears of war, Halo and COD4 type of games and lets face it.. 360 doesnt have anything of that level announced so far

When Killzone 2 and MGS4 hit, you can rest assured the gaming world will be BUZZING

Why? Seriously why?

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#95 michael098
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Cows talk about killzone 2 like killzone 1 was good, its also being hyped for the same reasons as killzone 1.
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#96 Paper_Knife
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halo wars... it has the word "halo" in it /thread
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#97 mattyomo99
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fable 2, NG 2 say otherwise
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#98 lagreendown
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just wait...

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I see what you did there
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Mass Effect will be the last biggest MS exclusive release for a good good while. So what does MS have in store for 2008?! And no i dont mean multiplats such as GTA IV, Dark Sector, Army of two or Devil May Cry. I mean as far as exclusives go, ok Too Human yea might be ok, but come on.. MS has its work cut out for them in 2008, they have to announce something to overshadow MGS4, Killzone 2, GT5 and Little Big Planet.

Now I know what most of you are going to say.. You are going to throw names at me like Lost Odyssey, Banjo, Alan Wake, Halo Wars,Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fable 2. Grant it those might be great games but you have to understand that half of those are unproven franchises while the other half are titles that wont appeal to the average casual..

So what will MS do to counter MGS4, Killzone 2, Little big planet and GT5?. Everyone knows that when MGS4 hits, IT WILL BE HUGE and OMG dont even get me started on Killzone 2, if that game turns out to be good it will OWN 2008. Another thing to keep in mind is the 36's popularity was built on online multiplayer games NONE of the exclusives announced so far for next year are multiplayer heavy.. bottom line is, if MS doesnt announce Gears of war 2 for 2008 or something extraordinary, then they have A LOT OF WORK TO DO!

ChristopherM80

And killzone 2 and LBP are proven franchises? Incase you didnt know, every banjo and ninja gaiden game have been AAA. Heck same with halo. And wasnt 2007 suppost to be the year for the cows?