3DS "5 hours on lowest brightness, 3 hours on highest" WTH NINTENDO?!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419947

Wow, and I thought 5 hours was for the highest setting. What went wrong??

PSP2 might even match these numbers, looks like Ninty made a lot of sacrifices for 3d...

Sw33tChilLi

Virtual Boy 2 here we come.

Installing

The virtual boy didn't sell out anywhere it was being released. Japan and North American pre-orders are filled for the 3DS. >.>

I'll wait it out for the second slimmer revision below $200 which should have more battery life.

Everyone stfu just dont use the 3D when your on the go, and turn 3D on when your at home or showing it to someone.

Just saw one 3DS today in Tokyo... while they weren't letting you play, only see. The 3D really feels weird.. it's good, really good 3d no BS, but my eyes started to hurt after few secs... just imagine after hours??

so like many said,, the 3D wont be on for long (for me at least)

IGN said PSP to have 3-6 hrs take that Nintendo and im expecting moreWolfetan

IGN also said that the 3DS will have 64MB of RAM, back wen the info. was leaked.. So, i wouldn't trust anything IGN has to say about the PSP2.

Sony claims it will be on par with the PSP. Thanks in large part to the energy saving OLED. No backlight means less juice drainage.danjammer69

If that turns out to be true, then that is mighty fine considering it's specs. Now what i really would like to know is the price, i've ben curious about that since forever..

[QUOTE="Installing"]

Virtual Boy 2 here we come.

The virtual boy didn't sell out anywhere it was being released. Japan and North American pre-orders are filled for the 3DS. >.>

Thanks in large part to the energy saving OLED. No backlight means less juice drainage.danjammer69

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

So does this mean the PSP2 will have 30 minutes - 1 hour battery life?

danjammer69

there's more to it than that. unlike LCD technology, OLED's power usage varies from not electircal use with an all black screen, to as much as 64 watts full a full white screen. and that's using Samsung's Super AMOLED screen that's found on the current galaxy s line. the Galaxy S 2 and the Samsung Infuse for AT&T use the new Super AMOLED+ screen which increases sub-pixel count by 50% and reduces total electrical usage to half (30 watts for a fully white screen.) furthermore, we don't know who will supply Sony with the OLED's for the PSP2. though Samsung controls 98% of the OLED market, Sony could elect to buy their screens from LG or even make their own like they did with the worlds first OLED tv (the 11" XEL-1).

that's just for the screen. then the processors, all 8 of them, will have to be very energy efficient. i'm pretty sure that unused cores will power off to save battery life and the cores that are on will run at lower clock speeds when not being taxed.

if sony throws in a 1950mAh battery in this beast, i could see it lasting 8 hours for gameplay.

if sony throws in a 1950mAh battery in this beast, i could see it lasting 8 hours for gameplay.

cowgriller

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

if sony throws in a 1950mAh battery in this beast, i could see it lasting 8 hours for gameplay.

ThePlothole

really? my phone has a 1500mAh battery and it lasts all day. watching videos on it lasts 4 or 5 hours. same amount of time for playing games. you have to remember that although it's only been 5 years since the release of the psp, but a lot of advancement has been made in energy efficiency in mobile processors. how else could phones and tablets playback 1080p video and last for up to 6 hours when in the past, an SD video on the psp lasted 3 hours?

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now as for the 3DS, the reason for the poor battery life isn't the processors, it is the 3D screen. two images not only have to be processed but also displayed. being that nintendo is using lcd technology, the backlight will kill the battery off quick. most of the light emitted from the backlight is blocked by pane of glass that only allows horizontal light to pass through. from there it has to pass another pane of glass that contains liquid crystals that twist the lights orientation and allows it to pass through yet another pane of glass and a color filter. the additional screen and parallax barrier that is added for the 3d effect means the even more light has to be produced by the backlight in order for the user to actually see an image. this is why the battery life sucks and why turning off the 3d effect increases battery life, though a lot of light still has to be produced to pass through the many layers.

really? my phone has a 1500mAh battery and it lasts all day. watching videos on it lasts 4 or 5 hours. same amount of time for playing games. you have to remember that although it's only been 5 years since the release of the psp, but a lot of advancement has been made in energy efficiency in mobile processors. how else could phones and tablets playback 1080p video and last for up to 6 hours when in the past, an SD video on the psp lasted 3 hours?

cowgriller

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

really? my phone has a 1500mAh battery and it lasts all day. watching videos on it lasts 4 or 5 hours. same amount of time for playing games. you have to remember that although it's only been 5 years since the release of the psp, but a lot of advancement has been made in energy efficiency in mobile processors. how else could phones and tablets playback 1080p video and last for up to 6 hours when in the past, an SD video on the psp lasted 3 hours?

ThePlothole

that's because two entire images have to be rendered simultaneously so yes it's gonna eat some battery life. nvidia is already working on a solution to this with tegra 2 3d.

that's because two entire images have to be rendered simultaneously so yes it's gonna eat some battery life. nvidia is already working on a solution to this with tegra 2 3d.

cowgriller

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

that's because two entire images have to be rendered simultaneously so yes it's gonna eat some battery life. nvidia is already working on a solution to this with tegra 2 3d.

ThePlothole

yeah i have. though android doesn't have as many 3d games, but my Galaxy S Captivate is freaking awesome with games.

yeah i have. though android doesn't have as many 3d games, but my Galaxy S Captivate is freaking awesome with games.

cowgriller

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

yeah i have. though android doesn't have as many 3d games, but my Galaxy S Captivate is freaking awesome with games.

ThePlothole

about 4 hours.

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="Installing"]

Virtual Boy 2 here we come.

CajunShooter

The virtual boy didn't sell out anywhere it was being released. Japan and North American pre-orders are filled for the 3DS. >.>

Yes, they are.

Simple solution. If you need it to last a long time, turn off the 3-D. If not, leave it on.

i don't think PSP2 will do much better either. that's the price to pay from more powerful hardware, unless they add a bulky battery in those devices.

i don't think PSP2 will do much better either. that's the price to pay from more powerful hardware, unless they add a bulky battery in those devices.

groowagon

i'm pretty sure that's the case. the psp2 is almost as wide as a 7" tablet. since the psp2 wont have a umd or physical media (aside from a small memory card), and because OLED screens are incredibly thin, mixed in with no movable parts inside the psp2, sony could afford to put in a large battery. one almost as big as the psp2. think of a battery the size of an iphone 4.

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

i don't think PSP2 will do much better either. that's the price to pay from more powerful hardware, unless they add a bulky battery in those devices.

cowgriller

i'm pretty sure that's the case. the psp2 is almost as wide as a 7" tablet. since the psp2 wont have a umd or physical media (aside from a small memory card), and because OLED screens are incredibly thin, mixed in with no movable parts inside the psp2, sony could afford to put in a large battery. one almost as big as the psp2. think of a battery the size of an iphone 4.

we'll see, but all that processing power doesn't come from thin air. it takes space.

Simple solution. If you need it to last a long time, turn off the 3-D. If not, leave it on.

oldkingallant

[QUOTE="danjammer69"]Thanks in large part to the energy saving OLED. No backlight means less juice drainage.ThePlothole

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

i don't think PSP2 will do much better either. that's the price to pay from more powerful hardware, unless they add a bulky battery in those devices.

groowagon

i'm pretty sure that's the case. the psp2 is almost as wide as a 7" tablet. since the psp2 wont have a umd or physical media (aside from a small memory card), and because OLED screens are incredibly thin, mixed in with no movable parts inside the psp2, sony could afford to put in a large battery. one almost as big as the psp2. think of a battery the size of an iphone 4.

we'll see, but all that processing power doesn't come from thin air. it takes space.

most mobile processors are smaller than an dime. most motherboards in portables are half or less than half the size of the device and as thick as a credit card. the battery always takes up most of the space.

edit:

this is a single core cortex a8 from qualcomm, the snapdragon qsd8250. the chip has a cpu, gpu, and cache in the same die. size compared to dime.

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

i don't think PSP2 will do much better either. that's the price to pay from more powerful hardware, unless they add a bulky battery in those devices.

cowgriller

i'm pretty sure that's the case. the psp2 is almost as wide as a 7" tablet. since the psp2 wont have a umd or physical media (aside from a small memory card), and because OLED screens are incredibly thin, mixed in with no movable parts inside the psp2, sony could afford to put in a large battery. one almost as big as the psp2. think of a battery the size of an iphone 4.

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

i'm pretty sure that's the case. the psp2 is almost as wide as a 7" tablet. since the psp2 wont have a umd or physical media (aside from a small memory card), and because OLED screens are incredibly thin, mixed in with no movable parts inside the psp2, sony could afford to put in a large battery. one almost as big as the psp2. think of a battery the size of an iphone 4.

cowgriller

we'll see, but all that processing power doesn't come from thin air. it takes space.

most mobile processors are smaller than an dime. most motherboards in portables are half or less than half the size of the device and as thick as a credit card. the battery always takes up most of the space.

edit:

this is a single core cortex a8 from qualcomm, the snapdragon qsd8250. the chip has a cpu, gpu, and cache in the same die. size compared to dime.

its unbelievable that people believe sony would release a handheld that has less then 2 hours of battery lifecampzor

When the psp first came out.. That was how bad the battery was. They did alot of software updates to save power by the system better spinning the discs more efficiently etc. but Im not kidding 2005 my psp died after its first charge in like an hour and a half of playing wipe out.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

most mobile processors are smaller than an dime. most motherboards in portables are half or less than half the size of the device and as thick as a credit card. the battery always takes up most of the space.

edit:

this is a single core cortex a8 from qualcomm, the snapdragon qsd8250. the chip has a cpu, gpu, and cache in the same die. size compared to dime.

windsquid9000

that's not a regular dime. it's a deceptively well hidden heat sink for a desktop. :P

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Simple solution. If you need it to last a long time, turn off the 3-D. If not, leave it on.

MushroomWig

[QUOTE="campzor"]its unbelievable that people believe sony would release a handheld that has less then 2 hours of battery lifeVendettaRed07

When the psp first came out.. That was how bad the battery was. They did alot of software updates to save power by the system better spinning the discs more efficiently etc. but Im not kidding 2005 my psp died after its first charge in like an hour and a half of playing wipe out.

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Simple solution. If you need it to last a long time, turn off the 3-D. If not, leave it on.

Willy105

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Simple solution. If you need it to last a long time, turn off the 3-D. If not, leave it on.

Willy105

fail. the ps3 was made for HD. why do you think it has blu-ray? the reason that it supports SD is for people who don't have HDTV's. for those that do, i like myself, we don't "turn off" the HD. the point of HD video game consoles is to play games in HD, the same way that the point of a 3D handheld is to play games in 3D. not using the handheld to its full potential because of battery life is fail.

fail. the ps3 was made for HD. why do you think it has blu-ray? the reason that it supports SD is for people who don't have HDTV's. for those that do, i like myself, we don't "turn off" the HD. the point of HD video game consoles is to play games in HD, the same way that the point of a 3D handheld is to play games in 3D. not using the handheld to its full potential because of battery life is fail.

cowgriller

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

fail. the ps3 was made for HD. why do you think it has blu-ray? the reason that it supports SD is for people who don't have HDTV's. for those that do, i like myself, we don't "turn off" the HD. the point of HD video game consoles is to play games in HD, the same way that the point of a 3D handheld is to play games in 3D. not using the handheld to its full potential because of battery life is fail.

ThePlothole

but you're missing the point entirely. the point of advertising a certain feature or selling a product based on a certain feature, is to get the consumer to buy it and use it. if nintendo is selling the 3DS and advertising it as having a glasses-less 3D screen and using that as it's main selling point, then telling people don't use biggest selling point/only selling point because of poor battery life, then what's the point of selling it? seriously, what's the point of buying a 3D handheld at twice the cost of the current model and not using it's main feature? for that, you could save over a hundred dollars and just buy a DSi.

in shorter, simpler terms, don't sell someone something and tell them not to use it for it's intended purpose.

but you're missing the point entirely. the point of advertising a certain feature or selling a product based on a certain feature, is to get the consumer to buy it and use it. if nintendo is selling the 3DS and advertising it as having a glasses-less 3D screen and using that as it's main selling point, then telling people don't use biggest selling point/only selling point because of poor battery life, then what's the point of selling it? seriously, what's the point of buying a 3D handheld at twice the cost of the current model and not using it's main feature? for that, you could save over a hundred dollars and just buy a DSi.

in shorter, simpler terms, don't sell someone something and tell them not to use it for it's intended purpose.

cowgriller

The point is that you can you play its exclusive library of games. Which is exactly the same reason I bought a PS3 and Xbox 360. A DSi can't play 3DS games.

And I'm not saying you can't use the 3D at all. If you're not going to be away from a wall outlet for more than five straight hours of gaming then it's not really an issue.

Thats horrible if your buying a 3ds i think you want 3d otherwise your buying another waste of money, aka the ds lite, dsi, dsi xl,

Thats horrible if your buying a 3ds i think you want 3d otherwise your buying another waste of money, aka the ds lite, dsi, dsi xl,

James161324

Do you honestly believe the 3DS is just a DSi with 3D? Cause it's not.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

but you're missing the point entirely. the point of advertising a certain feature or selling a product based on a certain feature, is to get the consumer to buy it and use it. if nintendo is selling the 3DS and advertising it as having a glasses-less 3D screen and using that as it's main selling point, then telling people don't use biggest selling point/only selling point because of poor battery life, then what's the point of selling it? seriously, what's the point of buying a 3D handheld at twice the cost of the current model and not using it's main feature? for that, you could save over a hundred dollars and just buy a DSi.

in shorter, simpler terms, don't sell someone something and tell them not to use it for it's intended purpose.

ThePlothole

The point is that you can you play its exclusive library of games. Which is exactly the same reason I bought a PS3 and Xbox 360. A DSi can't play 3DS games.

And I'm not saying you can't use the 3D at all. If you're not going to be away from a wall outlet for more than five straight hours of gaming then it's not really an issue.

not true. if it were only for the library, nintendo could've saved millions by just making the games for the DS rather than making the 3DS. the reason for the 3DS is purely, and only, for the 3D screen.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="cowgriller"]

but you're missing the point entirely. the point of advertising a certain feature or selling a product based on a certain feature, is to get the consumer to buy it and use it. if nintendo is selling the 3DS and advertising it as having a glasses-less 3D screen and using that as it's main selling point, then telling people don't use biggest selling point/only selling point because of poor battery life, then what's the point of selling it? seriously, what's the point of buying a 3D handheld at twice the cost of the current model and not using it's main feature? for that, you could save over a hundred dollars and just buy a DSi.

in shorter, simpler terms, don't sell someone something and tell them not to use it for it's intended purpose.

cowgriller

The point is that you can you play its exclusive library of games. Which is exactly the same reason I bought a PS3 and Xbox 360. A DSi can't play 3DS games.

And I'm not saying you can't use the 3D at all. If you're not going to be away from a wall outlet for more than five straight hours of gaming then it's not really an issue.

not true. if it were only for the library, nintendo could've saved millions by just making the games for the DS rather than making the 3DS. the reason for the 3DS is purely, and only, for the 3D screen.

your truly misinformed

your truly misinformed

Mario1331

umm....no. that's like samsung selling an hdtv and saying don't play hd content, it'll ruin your tv and run up your electric bill.

not true. if it were only for the library, nintendo could've saved millions by just making the games for the DS rather than making the 3DS. the reason for the 3DS is purely, and only, for the 3D screen.

cowgriller

By that logic Sony could have saved billions by simply continuing development for the PS2. Or even just the PS1.

turning the 3d off, or even to 50% should give a bit more battery life

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="cowgriller"]

but you're missing the point entirely. the point of advertising a certain feature or selling a product based on a certain feature, is to get the consumer to buy it and use it. if nintendo is selling the 3DS and advertising it as having a glasses-less 3D screen and using that as it's main selling point, then telling people don't use biggest selling point/only selling point because of poor battery life, then what's the point of selling it? seriously, what's the point of buying a 3D handheld at twice the cost of the current model and not using it's main feature? for that, you could save over a hundred dollars and just buy a DSi.

in shorter, simpler terms, don't sell someone something and tell them not to use it for it's intended purpose.

cowgriller

The point is that you can you play its exclusive library of games. Which is exactly the same reason I bought a PS3 and Xbox 360. A DSi can't play 3DS games.

And I'm not saying you can't use the 3D at all. If you're not going to be away from a wall outlet for more than five straight hours of gaming then it's not really an issue.

not true. if it were only for the library, nintendo could've saved millions by just making the games for the DS rather than making the 3DS. the reason for the 3DS is purely, and only, for the 3D screen.