4K Gaming..........Teh Future

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#51 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 


I don't think you understand how resolution works. 4K is 4K, regardless of the screen size. Could be 12 inches could 100 inches. It's still 4K.


And PC's CAN run games at 4K. Dirt 3 can be maxed out at 4K by a single GTX 780. Of course, if you're looking to max out Crysis 3 at 4K 60 FPS, you'll need two more GTX 780's :)

But that still bring the price of a PC that cna do it, today, at below $2,000.

As I've said before, I think the majority of PC gamers will be running at 1440p in 3 years time, with the second larges group at 1080p. 1600p will also start to see a push by then, and some crazy PC gamers will be sporting 4K displays with monster rigs. More power to them.

In 5 years, I think 1440p and 1600p will be most common, 1080p, fairly common, 4K will start to be showed off on gaming forum boards all over the place, like multi-monitor gaming is now, with manufacturers, starting to pay attention. Basically 4K wil be like 1440p is today. A niche market, but niche in a gmaing community of over a 100 million, is still significant.

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I find very hard to believe that you will achieve 60FPS on Crysis 3 max out at 4K dude using 2 780gtx.

And on a rig costing less that $2K. Those 780's are about $700 each.
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#52 tormentos
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 He said 3 :P And it would get close, to be honest. Crysis Warhead running above 4K (roughly 50% higher pixel count)... Back in 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPCJh8tYri0

Consternated

 

Crysis 3 doesn't = Crysis 1

 

30 FPS on 4K using 3 titans GPU HDMI 1.4 didn't allow for more,but i think it will not hit 60FPS solid.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-ultimate-gaming-pc

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#53 moistsandwich
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LOL " It took four of Nvidia's extremely powerful top-end GTX Titan graphics cards to hit 60 frames per second across Sleeping Dogs and Metro 2033, at a full 3,840x2,160 4K resolution."

We are not ready for 4k res. 4k won't be a thing until PS5 and XB4. Even if TV's / Monitors are mostly 4k compatible by then... we'll have a hard time getting detailed games at 60fps w/ a native 4k res.

It's going to be a long while before there is a standalone single GPU that is 4x as powerful as a GTX TITAN.

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#54 moistsandwich
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Yeah I can't really stand 1080p anymore. 4k is the minimum for me now.Sushiglutton

Got an extra cot in your mom's basement where I can crash? I want some 4k gaming goodness too. :P

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#55 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Consternated"]

 He said 3 :P And it would get close, to be honest. Crysis Warhead running above 4K (roughly 50% higher pixel count)... Back in 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPCJh8tYri0

tormentos

 

Crysis 3 doesn't = Crysis 1

 

30 FPS on 4K using 3 titans GPU HDMI 1.4 didn't allow for more,but i think it will not hit 60FPS solid.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-ultimate-gaming-pc

If you want to use 4K and have more than 30FPS you use Display Port.
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#56 Consternated
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[QUOTE="Consternated"]

 He said 3 :P And it would get close, to be honest. Crysis Warhead running above 4K (roughly 50% higher pixel count)... Back in 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPCJh8tYri0

tormentos

 

Crysis 3 doesn't = Crysis 1

 

30 FPS on 4K using 3 titans GPU HDMI 1.4 didn't allow for more,but i think it will not hit 60FPS solid.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-ultimate-gaming-pc

Still, it's impressive. We're not that far away from it being affordable on PC.
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With the GPU that is in the Xbone, I would expect Facebook style games at 4K resolution.

Sounds great! :roll:

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4K?..What a joke...Great read on how it's just BS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ 

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Yep my Plasma blows 4K away
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

4K?..What a joke...Great read on how it's just BS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ 

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Yep my Plasma blows 4K away

Wut? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 1080p peasant.
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

4K?..What a joke...Great read on how it's just BS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ 

clyde46
Yep my Plasma blows 4K away

Wut? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 1080p peasant.

Sorry their is no LCD on the planet that's better than my TV
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#61 glez13
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Even for PC setups these resolutions are getting ridiculous with the sizes the displays need to be. For TV setups they are mostly useless. 80" screen at 5 feet?

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Even for PC setups these resolutions are getting ridiculous with the sizes the displays need to be. For TV setups they are mostly useless. 80" screen at 5 feet?

glez13
Yep and most people sit between 9-11 ft from there HDTV. To get the bull benefit of 4K from a 9-11ft distance you would need a 150" Screen
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#63 Krelian-co
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*This article discusses how 4k gaming will be supported on the X1 and not on the PS4

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joke of the day, cant do 1080p and 60 fps, but they support* 4k ahhahahhahahaha

Then again some delusional lems will believe this since microsoft said so

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Yep my Plasma blows 4K away

Wut? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 1080p peasant.

Sorry their is no LCD on the planet that's better than my TV

4K >>>>> your shitty plasma.
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Most Hermits have their screens about 2.5 feet from their eyes. TO get the full benefit of 4k from 2.5 feet distance you would need a 42" screen. Have you seen how cramped the desks are of 99% of hermits? No way they could ever fit a 42" screen :D
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Wut? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 1080p peasant.

Sorry their is no LCD on the planet that's better than my TV

4K >>>>> your shitty plasma.

2013 King of HDTV's, they even compared it against Sony's 4K TV
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#67 Lumpy311
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Most Hermits have their screens about 2.5 feet from their eyes. TO get the full benefit of 4k from 2.5 feet distance you would need a 42" screen. Have you seen how cramped the desks are of 99% of hermits? No way they could ever fit a 42" screen :Dm3Boarder32

Come out Giovela, come out...

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Most Hermits have their screens about 2.5 feet from their eyes. TO get the full benefit of 4k from 2.5 feet distance you would need a 42" screen. Have you seen how cramped the desks are of 99% of hermits? No way they could ever fit a 42" screen :Dm3Boarder32

stupidity at its best, i have my pc hooked from a hdtv across the room. Shocking right?

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]Most Hermits have their screens about 2.5 feet from their eyes. TO get the full benefit of 4k from 2.5 feet distance you would need a 42" screen. Have you seen how cramped the desks are of 99% of hermits? No way they could ever fit a 42" screen :DKrelian-co

stupidity at its best, i have my pc hooked from a hdtv across the room. Shocking right?

Oh cool so 4K is even more pointless for you.
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Sorry their is no LCD on the planet that's better than my TV

4K >>>>> your shitty plasma.

2013 King of HDTV's, they even compared it against Sony's 4K TV

4K >>>> Your shitty TV.
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#71 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"] 4K >>>>> your shitty plasma.

2013 King of HDTV's, they even compared it against Sony's 4K TV

4K >>>> Your shitty TV.

Nice Rebuttal 2013 King of HDTV's :cool:
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#72 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] 2013 King of HDTV's, they even compared it against Sony's 4K TV  m3Boarder32
4K >>>> Your shitty TV.

Nice Rebuttal 2013 King of HDTV's :cool:

 

Lol!

 

You buy a great TV.... and then you hook up a garbage, sub HD console to it.

 

That's like having the best audiophile setup on the planet.... and then hooking up an old tape "walkman" to it.

 

Herp, derp! Better sound!!!

Get a home Theater PC and you know, actually run decent looking game son that thing.

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Love how all this 4k talk when there is no 4k standard hdtv format some call 4k 3840x2160 and you get 30fps. Call me crazy but there should be a standard before you start talking about 4k gaming. This is without even taking the storage into account as 4k uses way more space. Sony at least is not blowing smoke about 4k gaming.

Even most current 1080p hdtv's picture is meh and the response time is lacking. I am looking forward to 1080p OLED that should own any current 4k display on the market.

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Lock if old. MS has stated that this will be the console for the next 10 years. In this life cycle 1080p may become a thing of the past and 4K may become the norm. This article discusses how 4k gaming will be supported on the X1 and not on the PS4. I don't know how they plan on doing this but it seems interesting. Yes the PS4 will support 4K but only for pictures and video that was recorded in 4K.

http://www.stuff.tv/microsoft/sony-ps4-vs-xbox-one-4k-war-begins/feature

"We are delivering a home entertainment system for the next generation and will support 4K for games and entertainment. Well share more details later on 4K content for Xbox One." Xbox Spokesperson.

 

Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Joystiq back in February that PS4 games do not play in 4K, despite confirming that 4K video support will be present.

FoxbatAlpha

PS4 will be better at playing games at 4K better then the Xbox One... this is fact 100%.. even if they look like PS2 games PS4 will run much better to due having 32 ROPS compared to 16 ROPS which becomes a HUGE factor beyond 1080p gaming

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Love how all this 4k talk when there is no 4k standard hdtv format some call 4k 3840x2160 and you get 30fps. Call me crazy but there should be a standard before you start talking about 4k gaming. This is without even taking the storage into account as 4k uses way more space. Sony at least is not blowing smoke about 4k gaming.

Even most current 1080p hdtv's picture is meh and the response time is lacking. I am looking forward to 1080p OLED that should own any current 4k display on the market.

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"4K UHD is a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 lines (8.3 megapixels, aspect ratio 16:9) and is one of the two resolutions of ultra high definition television, the other being 8K UHD which is 7680 pixels × 4320 lines (33.2 megapixels). Both are aimed at consumer televisions. 4K UHD has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of the 1080p HDTV format, with four times as many pixels overall.[5] Currently all 4K UHD televisions use a standard 5.1 sound system, with no moves towards 7.1 being publicized. Digital cinema" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution There is a standard. You just need to know which one.
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"] 4K >>>> Your shitty TV. Kinthalis

Nice Rebuttal 2013 King of HDTV's :cool:

 

Lol!

 

You buy a great TV.... and then you hook up a garbage, sub HD console to it.

 

That's like having the best audiophile setup on the planet.... and then hooking up an old tape "walkman" to it.

 

Herp, derp! Better sound!!!

Get a home Theater PC and you know, actually run decent looking game son that thing.

a 2013 HDTV for 2013 consoles. My PC is just for strategy games now. You know, the only genre that is better while sitting on a desk with KB and Mouse
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Nice Rebuttal 2013 King of HDTV's :cool:m3Boarder32

 

Lol!

 

You buy a great TV.... and then you hook up a garbage, sub HD console to it.

 

That's like having the best audiophile setup on the planet.... and then hooking up an old tape "walkman" to it.

 

Herp, derp! Better sound!!!

Get a home Theater PC and you know, actually run decent looking game son that thing.

a 2013 HDTV for 2013 consoles. My PC is just for strategy games now. You know, the only genre that is better while sitting on a desk with KB and Mouse

And FPS games, and RTS games, and MMOs, and RPGs.

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 

Lol!

 

You buy a great TV.... and then you hook up a garbage, sub HD console to it.

 

That's like having the best audiophile setup on the planet.... and then hooking up an old tape "walkman" to it.

 

Herp, derp! Better sound!!!

Get a home Theater PC and you know, actually run decent looking game son that thing.

Lumpy311

a 2013 HDTV for 2013 consoles. My PC is just for strategy games now. You know, the only genre that is better while sitting on a desk with KB and Mouse

And FPS games, and RTS games, and MMOs, and RPGs.

Nah id rather play all that on my couch, with my 2013 HDTV of the year, and with my 4K dollar Surround Sound system. And dont beg me to connect my PC to my HDTV either.
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Stickin to my 46" 1080p tv for a while until 65-70" 4k becomes affordable.

As for "bu bu teh engineers"......right. MS is just gonna cough up a $2k PC equivalent in a $4-500 box. Not likely. Cost - performance ratio disagrees with you.

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#80 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] a 2013 HDTV for 2013 consoles. My PC is just for strategy games now. You know, the only genre that is better while sitting on a desk with KB and Mousem3Boarder32

And FPS games, and RTS games, and MMOs, and RPGs.

Nah id rather play all that on my couch, with my 2013 HDTV of the year, and with my 4K dollar Surround Sound system. And dont beg me to connect my PC to my HDTV either.

Oh GioVela, will you ever change your idiotic rebuttals?

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1280x720(or below) - for the dirty console peasants
1920x1080 - for the pc peasants
2560x1440 - for the average pc gamer
3840x2160 - for kings

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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]Most Hermits have their screens about 2.5 feet from their eyes. TO get the full benefit of 4k from 2.5 feet distance you would need a 42" screen. Have you seen how cramped the desks are of 99% of hermits? No way they could ever fit a 42" screen :Dm3Boarder32

stupidity at its best, i have my pc hooked from a hdtv across the room. Shocking right?

Oh cool so 4K is even more pointless for you.

why would it be pointless? just like 720p and 1080p makes no difference according to you console peasants right?

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1280x720(or below) - for the dirty console peasants
1920x1080 - for the pc peasants
2560x1440 - for the average pc gamer
3840x2160 - for kings

MK-Professor
7680×4320 for the gods
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#84 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

stupidity at its best, i have my pc hooked from a hdtv across the room. Shocking right?

Krelian-co

Oh cool so 4K is even more pointless for you.

why would it be pointless? just like 720p and 1080p makes no difference according to you console peasants right?

Because your TV is across the room you said, that would be like 9-11 ft away? You need a 100" screen to notice a difference vs 1080p
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#85 m3Boarder32
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1280x720(or below) - for the dirty console peasants
1920x1080 - for the pc peasants
2560x1440 - for the average pc gamer
3840x2160 - for kings

MK-Professor
LMAO playing with bezels in your field of view. And lol 2560x1440 requires an LCD screen, LCD Sucks
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#86 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

And FPS games, and RTS games, and MMOs, and RPGs.

Lumpy311

Nah id rather play all that on my couch, with my 2013 HDTV of the year, and with my 4K dollar Surround Sound system. And dont beg me to connect my PC to my HDTV either.

Oh GioVela, will you ever change your idiotic rebuttals?

Why would anyone change it when its the truth
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#87 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

1280x720(or below) - for the dirty console peasants
1920x1080 - for the pc peasants
2560x1440 - for the average pc gamer
3840x2160 - for kings

m3Boarder32

LMAO playing with bezels in your field of view.

gtfo giovela

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

stupidity at its best, i have my pc hooked from a hdtv across the room. Shocking right?

Krelian-co

Oh cool so 4K is even more pointless for you.

why would it be pointless? just like 720p and 1080p makes no difference according to you console peasants right?

Unless your using 4k for passive 3d and you have 20/20 vision then it is a waste. Frankly my living space is not big enough to where I can see the need for 4k.

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#89 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

1280x720(or below) - for the dirty console peasants
1920x1080 - for the pc peasants
2560x1440 - for the average pc gamer
3840x2160 - for kings

m3Boarder32

LMAO playing with bezels in your field of view.

LOL

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#90 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Nah id rather play all that on my couch, with my 2013 HDTV of the year, and with my 4K dollar Surround Sound system. And dont beg me to connect my PC to my HDTV either. m3Boarder32

Oh GioVela, will you ever change your idiotic rebuttals?

Why would anyone change it when its the truth

At least you admit you are GioVela.

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LOL at people saying 4K isn't needed :lol: You know they said the same about colour television too?
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#92 m3Boarder32
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LOL at people saying 4K isn't needed :lol: You know they said the same about colour television too?clyde46
Learn to math, Color doesnt involve figuring out the ideal seating distance for the size and resolution of your monitor
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#93 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]LOL at people saying 4K isn't needed :lol: You know they said the same about colour television too?m3Boarder32
Learn to math, Color doesnt involve figuring out the ideal seating distance for the size and resolution of your monitor

But B/W is enough?
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#94 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"]LOL at people saying 4K isn't needed :lol: You know they said the same about colour television too?clyde46
Learn to math, Color doesnt involve figuring out the ideal seating distance for the size and resolution of your monitor

Nobody ever said colour TV isnt needed, exaggerate more. But B/W is enough?

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#95 Lumpy311
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M3boarder admits he's a GioVela alt account :

 

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#96 menes777
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="clyde46"]LOL at people saying 4K isn't needed :lol: You know they said the same about colour television too?clyde46
Learn to math, Color doesnt involve figuring out the ideal seating distance for the size and resolution of your monitor

But B/W is enough?

If that's all consoles supported oh yeah it would be. Especially if PC supported color and consoles only supported B&W.  Then color would only be a gimmic and you can't enjoy color from a couch and his super B&W TV that he plays while driving his BMW is better than any Color TV! :lol:

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#97 m3Boarder32
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M3boarder admits he's a GioVela alt account :

 

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Lumpy311
lol nice photoshop bro.
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#98 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Learn to math, Color doesnt involve figuring out the ideal seating distance for the size and resolution of your monitormenes777

But B/W is enough?

If that's all consoles supported oh yeah it would be. Especially if PC supported color and consoles only supported B&W.  Then color would only be a gimmic and you can't enjoy color from a couch and his super B&W TV that he plays while driving his BMW is better than any Color TV! :lol:

Yah bro because a Black and White TV would ever be HDTV of the year vs a Color TV. Holy shit reach more guys
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#99 menes777
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

M3boarder admits he's a GioVela alt account :

 

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m3Boarder32

lol nice photoshop bro.

LOL you are busted you idiot, you can't edit that shit away and pretend like it didn't happen.

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#100 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

M3boarder admits he's a GioVela alt account :

 

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lol nice photoshop bro.

"Edited on Aug 30, 2013 7:09 pm GMT", haha.