55 Million Xbox 360's Shipped In Six Years

No I'm just questioning why MS need to act like the 360 is crushing the PS3 when worldwide the PS3 is outselling it.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] That's irrelevant when Worldwide figures show the 360 has a healthy lead...blue_hazy_basic

How?. They're boasting about all this growth they've had in America during this period yet worldwide PS3 has been selling more. It's like me boasting that I beat you in one race even though you beat me in the other two.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"] How?. They're boasting about all this growth they've had in America during this period yet worldwide PS3 has been selling more. It's like me boasting that I beat you in one race even though you beat me in the other two.BigBoss255

Didn't they beat Sony in the last quarter?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"] How?. They're boasting about all this growth they've had in America during this period yet worldwide PS3 has been selling more. It's like me boasting that I beat you in one race even though you beat me in the other two.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

based on what? :|

CaseyWegner

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

Well lets see out of all my friends and family that own a 360 all of them have been through two replacements and or rebought and on their 3rd. A few are on their 4th and one is on his 5th. Plus going through a UPS store in my area a clerk was telling me that they get 30-40 360's a week being shipped to MS to be repaired. So having nearly 50% failure rate isnt out of the question.

quick somebody call walter reed army hospital and see if there is a post traumatic stress disorder program for sw ps3 guys.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Based on RROD and my personal calculating skillzzzzz :P04dcarraher

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

Well lets see out of all my friends and family that own a 360 all of them have been through two replacements and or rebought and on their 3rd. A few are on their 4th and one is on his 5th. Plus going through a UPS store in my area a clerk was telling me that they get 30-40 360's a week being shipped to MS to be repaired. So having nearly 50% failure rate isnt out of the question.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Based on RROD and my personal calculating skillzzzzz :P04dcarraher

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

Well lets see out of all my friends and family that own a 360 all of them have been through two replacements and or rebought and on their 3rd. A few are on their 4th and one is on his 5th. Plus going through a UPS store in my area a clerk was telling me that they get 30-40 360's a week being shipped to MS to be repaired. So having nearly 50% failure rate isnt out of the question.

this is not about the failure rate. it's about what they are reporting as shipped/sold...not replaced.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Based on RROD and my personal calculating skillzzzzz :Pkuraimen

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

Well lets see out of all my friends and family that own a 360 all of them have been through two replacements and or rebought and on their 3rd. A few are on their 4th and one is on his 5th. Plus going through a UPS store in my area a clerk was telling me that they get 30-40 360's a week being shipped to MS to be repaired. So having nearly 50% failure rate isnt out of the question.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] But they are in the lead still :| What do you want them crying and doing shame bows? lol

blue_hazy_basic

Have you got a link, the last I saw was that PS3 sold 2.5 million more in 2010. I haven't seen Q1 this year. If I'm wrong I take back what I said.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

CaseyWegner

microsoft doesn't sell consoles to private individuals. they sell to retailers. replacement parts wouldn't factor into those numbers. were you just making an irrelevant statement that has nothing to do with the numbers being reported?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Says a lot about the quality of the brand if people choose to spend money replacing a faulty console over a free warranty.LordSadic

He said the quality of the brand, not the quality of the product....

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] But they are in the lead still :| What do you want them crying and doing shame bows? lol

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] No they can boast all they want about being in the lead but I don't know why they felt the need to talk about all this growth over the PS3 when the PS3 is actually selling more as we speak.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] No they can boast all they want about being in the lead but I don't know why they felt the need to talk about all this growth over the PS3 when the PS3 is actually selling more as we speak.BigBoss255

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] mmmm maybe because for a console to break it has to be bought first?kuraimen

microsoft doesn't sell consoles to private individuals. they sell to retailers. replacement parts wouldn't factor into those numbers. were you just making an irrelevant statement that has nothing to do with the numbers being reported?

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

microsoft doesn't sell consoles to private individuals. they sell to retailers. replacement parts wouldn't factor into those numbers. were you just making an irrelevant statement that has nothing to do with the numbers being reported?

CaseyWegner

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] No they can boast all they want about being in the lead but I don't know why they felt the need to talk about all this growth over the PS3 when the PS3 is actually selling more as we speak.BigBoss255

Have you got a link, the last I saw was that PS3 sold 2.5 million more in 2010. I haven't seen Q1 this year. If I'm wrong I take back what I said.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I just know that I have two friends with Xbox's and one has bought 3 and the other bought 2. I just extrapolate that pattern to the whole world and I can see how many of those consoles sold are just rebuys. Retailers buy consoles because people buy from them, if people don't buy they don't buy.kuraimen

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

Why does that matter? Why would MS care?

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] No it's not. And PS3 having a lead weekly/monthly in other markets is irrelevant when those leads don't equate to PS3 getting close to overtaking 360 sales. Your analogy is irrelevant too - it would be better to say that PS3 is winning the small fights but losing at the main event.Ravensmash

I just know that I have two friends with Xbox's and one has bought 3 and the other bought 2. I just extrapolate that pattern to the whole world and I can see how many of those consoles sold are just rebuys. Retailers buy consoles because people buy from them, if people don't buy they don't buy.kuraimen

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

No it's not. And PS3 having a lead weekly/monthly in other markets is irrelevant when those leads don't equate to PS3 getting close to overtaking 360 sales. Your analogy is irrelevant too - it would be better to say that PS3 is winning the small fights but losing at the main event.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

Ravensmash

Why does that matter? Why would MS care?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] How was my anology irrelevant?. I was trying to say 360 was winning part of it but losing overall and the analogy worked fine. Yours would be stupid because that would imply that I thought the PS3 was losing.

Captainqwark10

The gap didn't widen it got thinner :|

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No its not, last quarter the 360 outsold it .... check your numbers!blue_hazy_basic

Have you got a link, the last I saw was that PS3 sold 2.5 million more in 2010. I haven't seen Q1 this year. If I'm wrong I take back what I said.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] How was my anology irrelevant?. I was trying to say 360 was winning part of it but losing overall and the analogy worked fine. Yours would be stupid because that would imply that I thought the PS3 was losing.

BigBoss255

Not just quarter 1 but they were even prior to that.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I just know that I have two friends with Xbox's and one has bought 3 and the other bought 2. I just extrapolate that pattern to the whole world and I can see how many of those consoles sold are just rebuys. Retailers buy consoles because people buy from them, if people don't buy they don't buy.kuraimen

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

Have you got a link, the last I saw was that PS3 sold 2.5 million more in 2010. I haven't seen Q1 this year. If I'm wrong I take back what I said.

BigBoss255

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

blue_hazy_basic

Well the PS3 is generally used for more than just console gaming, many people buy it as a Bluray player, while the 360 is usually seen as basically a console and that's it. I also think the PS3 audience likes more diversity while the 360 audience is more focused on some style of games like shooters so they sell more on some specific games and styles but at others they blow and the PS3 sells more in these kind of games. Also the 360 audience is younger and they have more time to play.

It may be leading over the course of the last financial year (which covers the first months of this year until end of march), but Q3 of the MS and SOny's report showed that MS had sold more ove rthe last quarter, so to quote you the 360 is "is actually selling more as we speak."

blue_hazy_basic

There is never any "current" worldwide sales data.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

Have you got a link, the last I saw was that PS3 sold 2.5 million more in 2010. I haven't seen Q1 this year. If I'm wrong I take back what I said.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It may be leading over the course of the last financial year (which covers the first months of this year until end of march), but Q3 of the MS and SOny's report showed that MS had sold more ove rthe last quarter, so to quote you the 360 is "is actually selling more as we speak."

There is never any "current" worldwide sales data.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah that's why I only said 20 million, the other 35 million are probably legit buys but there's a big rebuy factor regarding the 360.kuraimen

Well the PS3 is generally used for more than just console gaming, many people buy it as a Bluray player, while the 360 is usually seen as basically a console and that's it. I also think the PS3 audience likes more diversity while the 360 audience is more focused on some style of games like shooters so they sell more on some specific games and styles but at others they blow and the PS3 sells more in these kind of games. Also the 360 audience is younger and they have more time to play.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i know three friends that are still on their first 360. extrapolating from that to the whole world i can see that there is a zero fail rate.

CaseyWegner

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] It may be leading over the course of the last financial year (which covers the first months of this year until end of march), but Q3 of the MS and SOny's report showed that MS had sold more ove rthe last quarter, so to quote you the 360 is "is actually selling more as we speak."

Ravensmash

If you'd posted that in the first place you would have saved me making a fool of myself:D. I hope you get what I meant though, if PS3 was selling more worldwide then this talk of growth in the US would seem pretty pointless and I stick to my one race out of three analogy.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah that's why I only said 20 million, the other 35 million are probably legit buys but there's a big rebuy factor regarding the 360.kuraimen

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah that's why I only said 20 million, the other 35 million are probably legit buys but there's a big rebuy factor regarding the 360.kuraimen

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

it's more a commentary on your methods than what i actually think. the 360 is covered by a warranty and replacement consoles don't get factored into the reported shipped numbers.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] Ok I apologize for wasting yours and Ravens' time, I had only seen the 2010 sales, I didn't know we had Q1 2011. BigBoss255

If you'd posted that in the first place you would have saved me making a fool of myself:D. I hope you get what I meant though, if PS3 was selling more worldwide then this talk of growth in the US would seem pretty pointless and I stick to my one race out of three analogy.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] It may be leading over the course of the last financial year (which covers the first months of this year until end of march), but Q3 of the MS and SOny's report showed that MS had sold more ove rthe last quarter, so to quote you the 360 is "is actually selling more as we speak."

blue_hazy_basic

Yea I was doing exams up until Tuesday that's probably why I missed it, I wish you'd posted it sooner though.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Oh I'm sure M$ doesn't care. They are probably trying to figure out how to implement the RROD strategy on all their products :PEmperorSupreme

No thats fair, I just meant with the most recent data we have available. Plus MS seems to have sold a boat load of 360's over the time period since the last annoucnement if their figures are correct, and with the PSN woes you'd assume Sony hasn't matched those.blue_hazy_basic

Based on the report released they've shipped an additional 1.4 million units in the previous two months, extrapolating that one could predict a 2.1 million unit quarter, although it could be higher.

Sony's Apr-Jun quarter in 2010 saw 2.4 million units moved but it could be considerably lower depending on the impact of the PSN fiasco.

We'll have to wait until July to see.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]If thats true why isn't the PS3 crushing the 360 in software sales, and how is the 360 ahead in attach rates? :? That doesn't make senseRavensmash

Well the PS3 is generally used for more than just console gaming, many people buy it as a Bluray player, while the 360 is usually seen as basically a console and that's it. I also think the PS3 audience likes more diversity while the 360 audience is more focused on some style of games like shooters so they sell more on some specific games and styles but at others they blow and the PS3 sells more in these kind of games. Also the 360 audience is younger and they have more time to play.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

Ravensmash

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not denying the 360 doesn't break for some people you're denying it does break for some though. And giving the whole RROD thing and how widely known it became I think it is safe to see which is the most unrealistic view of the whole situation.kuraimen

again, not about the failure rate. it's about people using warranties and ms not counting replacement systems.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because of unverified statistics involving two people? did you not see my data regarding the zero percent fail rate?

CaseyWegner

it's more a commentary on your methods than what i actually think. the 360 is covered by a warranty and replacement consoles don't get factored into the reported shipped numbers.