55 Million Xbox 360's Shipped In Six Years

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

quick somebody call walter reed army hospital and see if there is a post traumatic stress disorder program for sw ps3 guys.

Riverwolf007

lol too funny

the 360 is successful cuz they all broke and had to be rebought

the 360 is successfulcuz people are stupid

cuz them racist muricans support products made in the usa

cuz nobody has good taste in games

cuz nobody can tell they are getting ripped off

cuz brogamers love cod

cuz casuals bought kinect

cuz of the international conspiracy

cuz devs are greedy

cuz cuz cuz

people just seem to be emotionally damaged and in need of medical treatment at this point.

be sure to try out my new psycological treatment drug designed to help you relax and just enjoy some games.

ask your doctor about Brozac.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

CaseyWegner

that's not an answer.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah I'm not counting replacement systems in my calculation. I'm counting systems that don't get replaced but are bought again. I think many many people didn't get to replace their 360s they just bought new ones, at least much more than the PS3 or the Wii.ChubbyGuy40

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

Because the launch console was a PoS and Microsoft should've replaced them. We have a launch console and got a slim, and it still freezes.

And the number was 53 million just last week. 360 took 6 years to get to 53. PS3 took 5 years to get to 50. Seems like 360 is behind imo.

all those people rebought instead of using a warranty?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Why not? I know people who have. Many people even in this forum has also.kuraimen

that's not an answer.

you replied to my question with another question. what is your questionless answer?

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

and like 15 million from that 55million were people re buying because of RROD

Casboof

Where's proof of that?

Yeah I wish cows would just stop bringing this up. Why would 15 million rebuy the console if it has a warranty? It is speculation to the extreme. I don't know anybody who has rebought a 360 due to the RROD, but I do know two of my friends rebought PS3s because of the YLOD. Does that mean we should subtract 10 million sales from the PS3 due to the YLOD?

Not all of us enjoy having to wait 3-4 weeks to get the console back just to have to send it back 6 months or a year later. The warrenty doesn't give us a new console. Just a "repaired" console that still overheats.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

quick somebody call walter reed army hospital and see if there is a post traumatic stress disorder program for sw ps3 guys.

Riverwolf007

lol too funny

the 360 is successful cuz they all broke and had to be rebought

the 360 is successful cuz people are stupid

cuz them racist muricans support products made in the usa

cuz nobody has good taste in games

cuz nobody can tell they are getting ripped off

cuz brogamers love cod

cuz casuals bought kinect

cuz of the international conspiracy

cuz devs are greedy

cuz cuz cuz

people just seem to be emotionally damaged and in need of medical treatment at this point.

be sure to try out my new psychological treatment drug designed to help you relax and just enjoy some games.

ask your doctor about Brozac.

and don't forget that it's ms's fault that sony priced the ps3 at $600 :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

that's not an answer.

CaseyWegner

you replied to my question with another question. what is your questionless answer?

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] You are using the sales of ONE quarter to say that the 360 is widening the gap, I'm using every year of this gen since both consoles are on the market. The pattern indicates that the PS3 is getting closer not farther and 1 quarter won't change that. Just look at the big picture.kuraimen

I'm just stating what was reported. Have no idea what's in store in the next few months. What I do know is that we are about to enter a new gen and in all honesty it's too little too late for the ps3. The damage has been done. Even if the ps3 passes the 360 (which I doubt) by the time this gen is over MS has already accomplished the task of penetrating the market. Everything else (ex: leading in hardware sales, software attachment, etc..) is a tasty icing on the cake for them.

I doubt that MS will stop selling 360's anytime soon. The only reason why the PS2 was on the market for so long was because it was the best selling console. The PS3, however, isn't.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Eh yes it is an answer. Unless you want to go ahead and ask everyone that has bought another 360 in the world personally but that will take too much time I guess.kuraimen

you replied to my question with another question. what is your questionless answer?

a question doesn't answer a question so...

why are 5 million going to rebuy?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you replied to my question with another question. what is your questionless answer?

CaseyWegner

a question doesn't answer a question so...

why are 5 million going to rebuy?

To buy a slim, or they were tired of having to send it in for repairs. Thats the only possibilities I can come up with.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you replied to my question with another question. what is your questionless answer?

CaseyWegner

a question doesn't answer a question so...

why are 5 million going to rebuy?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Is it against the rules to answer a question with a question? Besides only half my answer was a question the other half was not a question. Answering a question with a question is valid. What makes you think 5 million people didn't buy it again? I'm speculating based on the amount of cases i've seen and heard off of people that has bought another 360.kuraimen

a question doesn't answer a question so...

why are 5 million going to rebuy?

that's a lot of people.

Kinda humorous how people are still using the 'RROD excuse' as to why the Xbox 360 is still ahead of the PS3 in sales.KC_Hokie

First to the next gen and it had a year start.

Thats not an excuse, its a fact. Is that better?

Kinda humorous how people are still using the 'RROD excuse' as to why the Xbox 360 is still ahead of the PS3 in sales.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Kinda humorous how people are still using the 'RROD excuse' as to why the Xbox 360 is still ahead of the PS3 in sales.ChubbyGuy40

First to the next gen and it had a year start.

Thats not an excuse, its a fact. Is that better?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Kinda humorous how people are still using the 'RROD excuse' as to why the Xbox 360 is still ahead of the PS3 in sales.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Kinda humorous how people are still using the 'RROD excuse' as to why the Xbox 360 is still ahead of the PS3 in sales.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well it's not like when the Slim relased they reset the counter to 0 or anything.kuraimen

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well it's not like when the Slim relased they reset the counter to 0 or anything.kuraimen

it seems so misleading whenyou say "many" bought new ones.

Yet 40% of 360's are not used for gaming.TheAcountantMan

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]MS also didn't replace consoles under warranty with new ones then count those as new sales either. KC_Hokie

I bought it. Its quite pointless when you know the thing is going to fail and MS is too stupid to replace it with even a Jasper unit or offer to upgrade it for a small fee to a slim. The warrenty doesn't do anything but provide a free cleaning service and fix a few soldering problems of a failing chip.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]No but many people replaced their old console with a new one since the old ones kept breaking.ChubbyGuy40

I bought it. Its quite pointless when you know the thing is going to fail and MS is too stupid to replace it with even a Jasper unit or offer to upgrade it for a small fee to a slim. The warrenty doesn't do anything but provide a free cleaning service and fix a few soldering problems of a failing chip.

why do cows always say the same thing, a sale is a sale, deal with it, whats the tally now, 55 million to 50 million, 5 million ftw

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]I'm questioning why MS need to act like the 360 is crushing the PS3 when worldwide the PS3 is outselling it.garland51

LOL, this old excuse again?

Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

And how many times have we heard that, exactly? Since like what, '07?

True statements aren't excuses, they are just statements pointing out what some people can't seem to grasp.

These companies don't only charge US customers for their products while giving them away everywhere else. Numbers of units sold matter little to them, profitibility is what matters. At the end of the day, that's it.

As for how profitible either MS or Sony is in their interactive entertainment divisions is anyone's guess.

If you just want to talk sales figures though, Sony has beaten MS just about every year since they launched the ps3. Why is that?

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Maybe traded them in for a newer model. But that happens with the PS3 as well. The critical errors that early Xbox 360 model faced were covered under extended warranties. I highly doubt large numbers of people gave up on their warranties and refused to have their product fix or replaced then purchased the same product. That isn't logical.KC_Hokie

I bought it. Its quite pointless when you know the thing is going to fail and MS is too stupid to replace it with even a Jasper unit or offer to upgrade it for a small fee to a slim. The warrenty doesn't do anything but provide a free cleaning service and fix a few soldering problems of a failing chip.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Maybe traded them in for a newer model. But that happens with the PS3 as well. The critical errors that early Xbox 360 model faced were covered under extended warranties. I highly doubt large numbers of people gave up on their warranties and refused to have their product fix or replaced then purchased the same product. That isn't logical.KC_Hokie

I bought it. Its quite pointless when you know the thing is going to fail and MS is too stupid to replace it with even a Jasper unit or offer to upgrade it for a small fee to a slim. The warrenty doesn't do anything but provide a free cleaning service and fix a few soldering problems of a failing chip.

How is it irrelevant when your warranty is up on the 360 thats been fixed or replaced multple times? Because you get a general hardware failure which isnt the E74 error or RRoD cover under the warranty.... I know four people who had to rebuy 360's because ethier their warranty was up and or the problem wasnt covered.... The 360 as a quality product sucks.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I bought it. Its quite pointless when you know the thing is going to fail and MS is too stupid to replace it with even a Jasper unit or offer to upgrade it for a small fee to a slim. The warrenty doesn't do anything but provide a free cleaning service and fix a few soldering problems of a failing chip.

04dcarraher

How is it irrelevant when your warranty is up on the 360 thats been fixed or replaced multple times? Because you get a general hardware failure which isnt the E74 error or RRoD cover under the warranty.... I know four people who had to rebuy 360's because ethier their warranty was up and or the problem wasnt covered.... The 360 as a quality product sucks.

Out of 55 million Xbox 360s sold...the above scenario is statistically insignificant. That is unless you believe hundreds of thousands of Xbox 360 owners bought Xbox 360s, had them break and fixed (sometimes multiple times) before they were no longer under warranty, then purchased another Xbox 360 sometime later. I find the later to be...unlikely to say the least.

why do cows always say the same thing, a sale is a sale, deal with it, whats the tally now, 55 million to 50 million, 5 million ftw

Timdoggamer

Cool. I'd like to see MS and Sony sales close. It helps give gamers more options and products.

[QUOTE="Casboof"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Where's proof of that?

ChubbyGuy40

Yeah I wish cows would just stop bringing this up. Why would 15 million rebuy the console if it has a warranty? It is speculation to the extreme. I don't know anybody who has rebought a 360 due to the RROD, but I do know two of my friends rebought PS3s because of the YLOD. Does that mean we should subtract 10 million sales from the PS3 due to the YLOD?

Not all of us enjoy having to wait 3-4 weeks to get the console back just to have to send it back 6 months or a year later. The warrenty doesn't give us a new console. Just a "repaired" console that still overheats.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Casboof"]

Yeah I wish cows would just stop bringing this up. Why would 15 million rebuy the console if it has a warranty? It is speculation to the extreme. I don't know anybody who has rebought a 360 due to the RROD, but I do know two of my friends rebought PS3s because of the YLOD. Does that mean we should subtract 10 million sales from the PS3 due to the YLOD?

WilliamRLBaker

Not all of us enjoy having to wait 3-4 weeks to get the console back just to have to send it back 6 months or a year later. The warrenty doesn't give us a new console. Just a "repaired" console that still overheats.

Theres actually no statistics done on who's had it sent in multiple times. Both sides who claim statistics are just pulling numbers/words out of their backside

Really? Why replace a chip/unit designed to fail with the same product? Why not put something in thats more reliable? And I'd love to see the source where it says they "completely" change it.

You also had to register before a certain date or Microsoft wouldn't honor the warrenty. I know a few who were screwed out of this. Again, I'd like to where you got that info too. I only know that 360s registered early got the warrenty. Everyone else was SoL.

Theres actually no statistics done on who's had it sent in multiple times. Both sides who claim statistics are just pulling numbers/words out of their backsideChubbyGuy40

And, yes, it would take numbers in the hundreds of thousands for that to be statistically relevant since we're talking about 55 million sold.

[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

why do cows always say the same thing, a sale is a sale, deal with it, whats the tally now, 55 million to 50 million, 5 million ftw

ianuilliam

True statements aren't excuses, they are just statements pointing out what some people can't seem to grasp.

These companies don't only charge US customers for their products while giving them away everywhere else. Numbers of units sold matter little to them, profitibility is what matters. At the end of the day, that's it.

As for how profitible either MS or Sony is in their interactive entertainment divisions is anyone's guess.

If you just want to talk sales figures though, Sony has beaten MS just about every year since they launched the ps3. Why is that?Pug-Nasty

That only happened because of the huge success of the PS2 & because of them having to do price drops to easily play catch up to the 360 in sales. Like I said before, the PS3, is not as hugely successful as the PS1 & the PS2. I doubt that they'll easily play catch up to Nintendo & Microsoft in sales the next time around.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Not all of us enjoy having to wait 3-4 weeks to get the console back just to have to send it back 6 months or a year later. The warrenty doesn't give us a new console. Just a "repaired" console that still overheats.

ChubbyGuy40

Theres actually no statistics done on who's had it sent in multiple times. Both sides who claim statistics are just pulling numbers/words out of their backside

Really? Why replace a chip/unit designed to fail with the same product? Why not put something in thats more reliable? And I'd love to see the source where it says they "completely" change it.

You also had to register before a certain date or Microsoft wouldn't honor the warrenty. I know a few who were screwed out of this. Again, I'd like to where you got that info too. I only know that 360s registered early got the warrenty. Everyone else was SoL.

um actually as I said when you send in a system you usually get a refurb back refurbed systems often have their insides changed with new solder, new cpu heatsink compound...etc And no....Every one that has purchased a 360 phat gets a 3 year e74 and rrod warranty along with the year warranty from date of purchase it doesn't matter if you register it or not please dont spread around such blatant false information because when you purchase a 360 the retailer scans its serial number this infromation is sent to microsoft telling them that unit was sold... as well Considering the fact that refurbished units are automatically registered to you...along with any licenses are transfered from the old system to the new system...

Not only have I had to send in my own 360 *one of them* to get it fixed so I have experience with the system, I also make a habit of answering technical questions and customer support questions when it comes to the 360 so your claims of you had to register a system to take advantage of warranties are not realistic.

Not impressed , the ps3 sold 51 or 52 million , can't remember , in 5 years, it doesn't take an economy genius to know that these are better numbers , but anyways , congratz , they deserve it , they created a strong brand in the video game industry and concorrence is here to benefit us all.If something impresses me though is the wii a last gen console with very little features beating the hell out of sony and m$ , who would have thought a gimmick like motion sensing would work wonders for them , I certainly wouldnt , controls and mouse ftw as far as current technology goes.

um actually as I said when you send in a system you usually get a refurb back refurbed systems often have their insides changed with new solder, new cpu heatsink compound...etc And no....Every one that has purchased a 360 phat gets a 3 year e74 and rrod warranty along with the year warranty from date of purchase it doesn't matter if you register it or not please dont spread around such blatant false information because when you purchase a 360 the retailer scans its serial number this infromation is sent to microsoft telling them that unit was sold... as well Considering the fact that refurbished units are automatically registered to you...along with any licenses are transfered from the old system to the new system...

Not only have I had to send in my own 360 *one of them* to get it fixed so I have experience with the system, I also make a habit of answering technical questions and customer support questions when it comes to the 360 so your claims of you had to register a system to take advantage of warranties are not realistic.

WilliamRLBaker

First statement = doesn't matter. They're replacing a faulty components with improper cooling with more fault components and improper cooling. As usual, Microsoft has some of the worst quality testers in the industry for its hardware. 3 year warrenty when purchased from 2005/2006 means you've been screwed for 2-3 years. And yes it does matter. I had a friend's 360 get RRoD. I tried to register and said the system was invalid for a warrenty. Its the same with any electronic. Theres a deadline to register for a warrnety. Yes, it was a pre-jasper/launch unit, just like my own. Don't blame me, blame Microsoft and India's tech support. Nice try but you're damage control doesn't apply here.

Answering technical questions and customer support questions? On what, Gamespot? That doesn't mean anything. I had to call Microsoft just to wait 3 hours to talk to someone, spend an hour describing what was wrong (Thankfully he spoke fluent english) just to have him tell me I have to go to this website to register for the warrenty to have Microsoft ship the coffin.

And, yes, it would take numbers in the hundreds of thousands for that to be statistically relevant since we're talking about 55 million sold.

KC_Hokie

See, that doesn't hold. A survey firm could ask 1,000-2,000 people across the internet if they sent in a 360 for repair or if they bought another one do to failure. It would count as a study/truthful statistic. Thats how its done for the millions of people for other services and products because you can't survey everyone.

First statement = doesn't matter. They're replacing a faulty components with improper cooling with more fault components and improper cooling. As usual, Microsoft has some of the worst quality testers in the industry for its hardware. 3 year warrenty when purchased from 2005/2006 means you've been screwed for 2-3 years. And yes it does matter. I had a friend's 360 get RRoD. I tried to register and said the system was invalid for a warrenty. Its the same with any electronic. Theres a deadline to register for a warrnety. Yes, it was a pre-jasper/launch unit, just like my own. Don't blame me, blame Microsoft and India's tech support. Nice try but you're damage control doesn't apply here.

Answering technical questions and customer support questions? On what, Gamespot? That doesn't mean anything. I had to call Microsoft just to wait 3 hours to talk to someone, spend an hour describing what was wrong (Thankfully he spoke fluent english) just to have him tell me I have to go to this website to register for the warrenty to have Microsoft ship the coffin.

ChubbyGuy40

Here's is what you PS3guys are not grasping.

A sale is a sale.

Even if the system broke the end user STILL bought a new replacement console. That is a sale for microsoft there are no excuses microsoft sold the product and got paid.

With the software attach rate and the hardware still gaining rapid mometum in the NPD charts. Is a massive feet in itself at this point in it's lifecycle as a console. 6th year.

I don't see it ending anytime soon.

Like it or not, Kinect is massive and will push millions of consoles in america. With the right software, the world.

You can try to condense the numbers into being replacement consoles. In the end Microsoft is still making bank and making the sale on all the consoles.

The software numbers and attach rate should tell you that.

Ps3 by that chart has peaked and stabled off. Wii peaked. Reached its peak "saturation point" and fell off.

The only console still rippin & tearrin is the 360.

Say what you will, this is the first time a console has continued it's growth in it 6th year on the market. Most plain out like the ps3 and become steady or dwinddle after hitting their peak.

The 360 hasn't even hit it's peak yet.

If you don't know what I mean by Peak. It's the highest production point of any commodity. It isthe top point, the climax of its life cycle. After the peak there is only down.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]The fact that they're still showing upward growth after 6 years (and being the earliest console on the market this gen) is actually very impressive.shadow8585

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

True statements aren't excuses, they are just statements pointing out what some people can't seem to grasp.

These companies don't only charge US customers for their products while giving them away everywhere else. Numbers of units sold matter little to them, profitibility is what matters. At the end of the day, that's it.

As for how profitible either MS or Sony is in their interactive entertainment divisions is anyone's guess.

If you just want to talk sales figures though, Sony has beaten MS just about every year since they launched the ps3. Why is that?garland51

That only happened because of the huge success of the PS2 & because of them having to do price drops to easily play catch up to the 360 in sales. Like I said before, the PS3, is not as hugely successful as the PS1 & the PS2. I doubt that they'll easily play catch up to Nintendo & Microsoft in sales the next time around.