55 Million Xbox 360's Shipped In Six Years

quick somebody call walter reed army hospital and see if there is a post traumatic stress disorder program for sw ps3 guys.

Riverwolf007

lol too funny

Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm not denying the 360 doesn't break for some people you're denying it does break for some though. And giving the whole RROD thing and how widely known it became I think it is safe to see which is the most unrealistic view of the whole situation.kuraimen

it's more a commentary on your methods than what i actually think. the 360 is covered by a warranty and replacement consoles don't get factored into the reported shipped numbers.

how many people are you saying import the thing or spend money when they don't have to? :?

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's more a commentary on your methods than what i actually think. the 360 is covered by a warranty and replacement consoles don't get factored into the reported shipped numbers.

CaseyWegner

how many people are you saying import the thing or spend money when they don't have to? :?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah I'm aware of that but I'm also aware on how many people don't use the warranty. For example, in my country, people usually buy consoles in the US and bring it here because it is cheaper. So that sells factor in the US numbers. Yet almost no one will use any warranty, since when you bring the console overseas is a pain in the ass to change it. Therefore people would rather just buy another. Even if you buy the console here, we don't have the 3 year warranty like you there unless we send it to MS in the US and most people won't do that. If that happens in several countries then the warranty is mostly a factor in main areas but not in others. The same I have known people that, instead of changing the console for a refurbished one, they would just rather buy another since it would likely break again. So that all leads me to believe that many consoles don't just get replaced by the warranty.kuraimen

how many people are you saying import the thing or spend money when they don't have to? :?

20 million?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Based on RROD and my personal calculating skillzzzzz :P04dcarraher

what makes you think broken consoles factor into the reported numbers?

Well lets see out of all my friends and family that own a 360 all of them have been through two replacements and or rebought and on their 3rd. A few are on their 4th and one is on his 5th. Plus going through a UPS store in my area a clerk was telling me that they get 30-40 360's a week being shipped to MS to be repaired. So having nearly 50% failure rate isnt out of the question.

and all of my ps3 friends bought it for bluray movies and nothing else.

it's just as factual :lol:

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah that's why I only said 20 million, the other 35 million are probably legit buys but there's a big rebuy factor regarding the 360.kuraimen

I also think the PS3 audience likes more diversity while the 360 audience is more focused on some style of games like shooters

that's okay though, haing a shooter console is nothing to be ashamed of :)

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Well the PS3 is generally used for more than just console gaming, many people buy it as a Bluray player, while the 360 is usually seen as basically a console and that's it. I also think the PS3 audience likes more diversity while the 360 audience is more focused on some style of games like shooters so they sell more on some specific games and styles but at others they blow and the PS3 sells more in these kind of games. Also the 360 audience is younger and they have more time to play.

kuraimen

this is about the funniest thing i've read all day

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Yeah, you keep telling yourself thatkhoofia_pika

That's America only.

In 06/07 PS3 sold 3.5 million though it launched it Q4. 360 sold 6.6 million in double the time.

In 07/08 PS3 sold 9.1 million, 360 sold 8.7.

In 08/09 PS3 sold 10.1, 360 sold 11.1

In 09/10 PS3 sold 13 million, 360 sold 10.3.

In 2010/11 PS3 sold 14.3, 360 sold 11.8 + April - June.

Source: http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28589648/q4-sales--sony--microsoft--nintendo?page=0

I didn't like it because I don't like you.:lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Is there actually any fact in there or are you just speculating? KarateeeChop

this is about the funniest thing i've read all day

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how many people are you saying import the thing or spend money when they don't have to? :?

CaseyWegner

20 million?

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Yeah, you keep telling yourself thatkhoofia_pika

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I don't have all the numbers but I don't think it is a negligible amount.kuraimen

20 million?

if by exaggerating "a bit" you meant "a lot" then i'd finally agree with you. it's all about reasonable assumptions since we have no actual data. remember that these consoles were bought over a span of 6 years and not all at once and not all with the same failure rates. also remember that ms wouldn't count replacement systems as shipped systems.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

20 million?

CaseyWegner

if by exaggerating "a bit" you meant "a lot" then i'd finally agree with you. it's all about reasonable assumptions since we have no actual data. remember that these consoles were bought over a span of 6 years and not all at once and not all with the same failure rates. also remember that ms wouldn't count replacement systems as shipped systems.

I'm questioning why MS need to act like the 360 is crushing the PS3 when worldwide the PS3 is outselling it.BigBoss255

LOL, this old excuse again?

Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

And how many times have we heard that, exactly? Since like what, '07?

why are cows surprised by this? You would they many have gotten used to it by now.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Worldwide? well i bet it is between 5 and 20 million probably. Maybe I was exaggerating a bit with 20 but I bet it is a high number, even 5 million would be a high number.kuraimen

if by exaggerating "a bit" you meant "a lot" then i'd finally agree with you. it's all about reasonable assumptions since we have no actual data. remember that these consoles were bought over a span of 6 years and not all at once and not all with the same failure rates. also remember that ms wouldn't count replacement systems as shipped systems.

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.BigBoss255

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if by exaggerating "a bit" you meant "a lot" then i'd finally agree with you. it's all about reasonable assumptions since we have no actual data. remember that these consoles were bought over a span of 6 years and not all at once and not all with the same failure rates. also remember that ms wouldn't count replacement systems as shipped systems.

CaseyWegner

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Yeah, you keep telling yourself thatT-razor1

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"] Since 08 PS3 has sold 27.3 million, 360 has sold 22.1. There's no reason to believe that trend will end.kuraimen

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

Except that you'll be proven wrong this time. The PS3 is running out of steam, while the 360's steam is still going.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"] Since 08 PS3 has sold 27.3 million, 360 has sold 22.1. There's no reason to believe that trend will end.kuraimen

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

garland51

Except that you'll be proven wrong this time. The PS3 is running out of steam, while the 360's steam is still going.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

marklarmer

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well lems believed also last year that the 360 was destroying the PS3 in sales and then they were proven wrong at the end of the year when the ps3, once again, had surpassed the 360 worldwide. So lems are just making the same mistake they make everytime and are gonna get owned by the end of the year like usual.kuraimen

Except that you'll be proven wrong this time. The PS3 is running out of steam, while the 360's steam is still going.

It's so much so, that Sony now has to depend on remastering old PSP games just for PS3 owners to say, "we have more exclusives!." :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Except that you'll be proven wrong this time. The PS3 is running out of steam, while the 360's steam is still going.

garland51

It's so much so, that Sony now has to depend on remastering old PSP games just for PS3 owners to say, "we have more exclusives!." :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if by exaggerating "a bit" you meant "a lot" then i'd finally agree with you. it's all about reasonable assumptions since we have no actual data. remember that these consoles were bought over a span of 6 years and not all at once and not all with the same failure rates. also remember that ms wouldn't count replacement systems as shipped systems.

CaseyWegner

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

Because the launch console was a PoS and Microsoft should've replaced them. We have a launch console and got a slim, and it still freezes.

And the number was 53 million just last week. 360 took 6 years to get to 53. PS3 took 5 years to get to 50. Seems like 360 is behind imo.

Very impressive, especially considering 360 is the only console that is simply non existant in one of the markets.

Congratulations :)

[QUOTE="garland51"]

It's so much so, that Sony now has to depend on remastering old PSP games just for PS3 owners to say, "we have more exclusives!." :lol:

kuraimen

The 360 has games this year, too. But the difference is, is that most PS3 owners play multiplats &/or Blu-Ray movies much more so than exclusives. :P

Because the launch console was a PoS and Microsoft should've replaced them. We have a launch console and got a slim, and it still freezes.

And the number was 53 million just last week. 360 took 6 years to get to 53. PS3 took 5 years to get to 50. Seems like 360 is behind imo.ChubbyGuy40

That's only because that the PS2 was the best selling console with 150+ million sold as to why PS3 sold more faster than 360 & that the original Xbox had only 24 million sold. This gen, the PS3 isn't exactly hugely successful compared to both PS1 & PS2, so I doubt that they'll easily catch up to Project Cafe & the next Xbox system with the PS4.

With MS, though, you got to hand it to them. They've done much more better than Xbox last gen in more console sales, especially when it comes to gathering marketshare, etc.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"] Since 08 PS3 has sold 27.3 million, 360 has sold 22.1. There's no reason to believe that trend will end.kuraimen

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

I don't know which users you're talking about but I don't recall ever saying that the 360 was destroying the ps3 in sales. 50 mil is still good for the ps3 but the fact remains that the 360 still leads in overall sales worldwide. Putting out a time frame to show that the ps3 has been outselling the 360 means nothing to me if both machines recently have been running neck and neck with the 360 ultimately widening the gap in the most latest reports.

As much as it seems that you want the ps3 to overtake the 360 you must admit that considering how dead the xbox brand was last gen to where they are today and basically putting the ps3 in the rear view mirror is just crazy impressive. There's no way around this...

....and it's because of this deep market penetration why 360 execs couldn't care less whether the 360 was outsold for a period of time worldwide by the ps3.... add to the fact that they're STILL in the lead and they just widened the gap and the Microsoft camp can do nothing but smile when they wake up in the morning. All signs point to a 360 success this gen and a big fail for the ps3 when you really put things in perspective. It's just the reality of the situation.

and like 15 million from that 55million were people re buying because of RROD

and like 15 million from that 55million were people re buying because of RROD

sillaris

Where's proof of that?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

T-razor1

I don't know which users you're talking about but I don't recall ever saying that the 360 was destroying the ps3 in sales. 50 mil is still good for the ps3 but the fact remains that the 360 still leads in overall sales worldwide. Putting out a time frame to show that the ps3 has been outselling the 360 means nothing to me if both machines recently have been running neck and neck with the 360 ultimately widening the gap in the most latest reports.

As much as it seems that you want the ps3 to overtake the 360 you must admit that considering how dead the xbox brand was last gen to where they are today and basically putting the ps3 in the rear view mirror is just crazy impressive. There's no way around this...

....and it's because of this deep market penetration why 360 execs couldn't care less whether the 360 was outsold for a period of time worldwide by the ps3.... add to the fact that they're STILL in the lead and they just widened the gap and the Microsoft camp can do nothing but smile when they wake up in the morning. All signs point to a 360 success this gen and a big fail for the ps3 when you really put things in perspective. It's just the reality of the situation.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well lems believed also last year that the 360 was destroying the PS3 in sales and then they were proven wrong at the end of the year when the ps3, once again, had surpassed the 360 worldwide. So lems are just making the same mistake they make everytime and are gonna get owned by the end of the year like usual.kuraimen

I don't know which users you're talking about but I don't recall ever saying that the 360 was destroying the ps3 in sales. 50 mil is still good for the ps3 but the fact remains that the 360 still leads in overall sales worldwide. Putting out a time frame to show that the ps3 has been outselling the 360 means nothing to me if both machines recently have been running neck and neck with the 360 ultimately widening the gap in the most latest reports.

As much as it seems that you want the ps3 to overtake the 360 you must admit that considering how dead the xbox brand was last gen to where they are today and basically putting the ps3 in the rear view mirror is just crazy impressive. There's no way around this...

....and it's because of this deep market penetration why 360 execs couldn't care less whether the 360 was outsold for a period of time worldwide by the ps3.... add to the fact that they're STILL in the lead and they just widened the gap and the Microsoft camp can do nothing but smile when they wake up in the morning. All signs point to a 360 success this gen and a big fail for the ps3 when you really put things in perspective. It's just the reality of the situation.

I'm just stating what was reported. Have no idea what's in store in the next few months. What I do know is that we are about to enter a new gen and in all honesty it's too little too late for the ps3. The damage has been done. Even if the ps3 passes the 360 (which I doubt) by the time this gen is over MS has already accomplished the task of penetrating the market. Everything else (ex: leading in hardware sales, software attachment, etc..) is a tasty icing on the cake for them.

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

and like 15 million from that 55million were people re buying because of RROD

garland51

Where's proof of that?

Yeah I wish cows would just stop bringing this up. Why would 15 million rebuy the console if it has a warranty? It is speculation to the extreme. I don't know anybody who has rebought a 360 due to the RROD, but I do know two of my friends rebought PS3s because of the YLOD. Does that mean we should subtract 10 million sales from the PS3 due to the YLOD?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I don't know which users you're talking about but I don't recall ever saying that the 360 was destroying the ps3 in sales. 50 mil is still good for the ps3 but the fact remains that the 360 still leads in overall sales worldwide. Putting out a time frame to show that the ps3 has been outselling the 360 means nothing to me if both machines recently have been running neck and neck with the 360 ultimately widening the gap in the most latest reports.

As much as it seems that you want the ps3 to overtake the 360 you must admit that considering how dead the xbox brand was last gen to where they are today and basically putting the ps3 in the rear view mirror is just crazy impressive. There's no way around this...

....and it's because of this deep market penetration why 360 execs couldn't care less whether the 360 was outsold for a period of time worldwide by the ps3.... add to the fact that they're STILL in the lead and they just widened the gap and the Microsoft camp can do nothing but smile when they wake up in the morning. All signs point to a 360 success this gen and a big fail for the ps3 when you really put things in perspective. It's just the reality of the situation.

T-razor1

I'm just stating what was reported. Have no idea what's in store in the next few months. What I do know is that we are about to enter a new gen and in all honesty it's too little too late for the ps3. The damage has been done. Even if the ps3 passes the 360 (which I doubt) by the time this gen is over MS has already accomplished the task of penetrating the market. Everything else (ex: leading in hardware sales, software attachment, etc..) is a tasty icing on the cake for them.

in my eyes lots of people xboxes lasted until the warranty ended and then broke on them so they were force to buy another, im just saying

Didn't MS shipped more 360s last quarter than Sony shipped PS3s? themyth01

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Part speculation, part fact. There has been statistics released that the 360 audience is indeed younger so that could be a factor. Older people tend to play less since the have more responsibilities so the attach rate will definitely be lower. It also makes sense since the PS brand is older so older generations would rather stick to that. Younger generations have mostly no attachment and they are creating theirs so they can swing more to the Xbox side. It is also a fact that many people bought the PS3 as mainly a Bluray player. Hell Sony even advertised it as such. kuraimen

this is about the funniest thing i've read all day

oh man, keep going! :lol:

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Looks like they've taken a leaf out of the lems' handbook and tried to pass NPD sales off as the world. They may be winning in America but PS3 will overtake the 360 real soon.bigboss5ak

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

and like 15 million from that 55million were people re buying because of RROD

Casboof

Where's proof of that?

Yeah I wish cows would just stop bringing this up. Why would 15 million rebuy the console if it has a warranty? It is speculation to the extreme. I don't know anybody who has rebought a 360 due to the RROD, but I do know two of my friends rebought PS3s because of the YLOD. Does that mean we should subtract 10 million sales from the PS3 due to the YLOD?

they need to make up the rrod argument to make themselves feel better about the ps3 being in last place for 5 years. don't take it away from them; it's all they've got :(

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

But there is reason to believe it considering that in the latest figures the 360 widened the gap.

garland51

Except that you'll be proven wrong this time. The PS3 is running out of steam, while the 360's steam is still going.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

quick somebody call walter reed army hospital and see if there is a post traumatic stress disorder program for sw ps3 guys.

bigboss5ak

lol too funny

the 360 is successful cuz they all broke and had to be rebought

the 360 is successful cuz people are stupid

cuz them racist muricans support products made in the usa

cuz nobody has good taste in games

cuz nobody can tell they are getting ripped off

cuz brogamers love cod

cuz casuals bought kinect

cuz of the international conspiracy

cuz devs are greedy

cuz cuz cuz

people just seem to be emotionally damaged and in need of medical treatment at this point.

be sure to try out my new psychological treatment drug designed to help you relax and just enjoy some games.

ask your doctor about Brozac.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah I'm not counting replacement systems in my calculation. I'm counting systems that don't get replaced but are bought again. I think many many people didn't get to replace their 360s they just bought new ones, at least much more than the PS3 or the Wii.kuraimen

why would5 million people re-buy their consoles?

that's not an answer.