720/PS4 will kill PC gaming FOR GOOD!!!

We have already seen less and less and far fewer PC games in the past few years. And the good PC games come to 360 and most of the time to PS3. Look at even the mighty Crytek Engine that runs the ubber ultra owns anything graphics king Crysis games. Well they are making this engine run for home systems. Why because they know PC gaming is close to going totally belly up. I know we have been saying this for years. Look at Nvidia recently there has been rumors of them folding and ATI taking over.

With the inclusion of networks like Onlive that will offer full digital DL and maxed out PC level graphics. And with the next 720 and PS4 offering close to endless storage space and DL content for gaming. PC gaming will be so close to dead in the water it is not even funny.

And look even the holy grail of PC gaming dedicated servers are starting to become no more on PC even.

If you are a PC gamer hang on to your fond memories why you can because you are in your last years of survival:shock:

Just stop already these boards are out of control...

This is a joke thread right? PC gaming is not dying! Console gaming is not dying! NOTHING IS DYING.

Just like all the other times PC gaming was supposed to die, right?siLVURcross

Doubtful. You could have perfectly equivalent hardware between PCs and consoles, and you'd still have a fundamental schism: PC gamers demand the freedom to change things as they see fit, and console gamers demand the simplicity of being able to drop a game in and have it work with zero effort on their part. The two concepts are fundamentally incompatible.

We have already seen less and less and far fewer PC games in the past few years. And the good PC games come to 360 and most of the time to PS3. Look at even the mighty Crytek Engine that runs the ubber ultra owns anything graphics king Crysis games. Well they are making this engine run for home systems. Why because they know PC gaming is close to going totally belly up. I know we have been saying this for years. Look at Nvidia recently there has been rumors of them folding and ATI taking over.

With the inclusion of networks like Onlive that will offer full digital DL and maxed out PC level graphics. And with the next 720 and PS4 offering close to endless storage space and DL content for gaming. PC gaming will be so close to dead in the water it is not even funny.

And look even the holy grail of PC gaming dedicated servers are starting to become no more on PC even.

If you are a PC gamer hang on to your fond memories why you can because you are in your last years of survival:shock:

HonkyTonkGamer

No one can argue that PC gaming is at it's lowest point sales wise and amount of people gaming on PC ever. And it is only going to continue to drindle down drastically.

By mid way through PS4 and 720 and Onlive. And maybe even a similar service offered by MS and maybe even Sony. I'm sure they want in on the Onlive type service. PC gaming is going to be limping along like a badly wounded dog on life support.

No one can argue that PC gaming is at it's lowest point sales wise and amount of people gaming on PC ever. And it is only going to continue to drindle down drastically.

By mid way through PS4 and 720 and Onlive. And maybe even a similar service offered by MS and maybe even Sony. I'm sure they want in on the Onlive type service. PC gaming is going to be limping along like a badly wounded dog on life support.

HonkyTonkGamer

I'll never understand why people want a plateform to "die"salxis

I'm not saying I want it to happen it is just going to happen.

Look at Nvidia recently there are rumors they are looking at options because of struggling sales and feel they are a dying breed in PC GPU market.

I'll never understand why people want a plateform to "die"salxis

So they can feel better about themselves. Don't forget, a lot of people are insecure these days, especially around these boards.

No one can argue that PC gaming is at it's lowest point sales wise and amount of people gaming on PC ever. And it is only going to continue to drindle down drastically.

By mid way through PS4 and 720 and Onlive. And maybe even a similar service offered by MS and maybe even Sony. I'm sure they want in on the Onlive type service. PC gaming is going to be limping along like a badly wounded dog on life support.

HonkyTonkGamer

Because whatever next gen consoles come out I have no reason to do any pc gaming. Next gen consoles will have the power of 4 of the most powerful graphics cards in the computer market and the cpu's will be so good that the ai will be identical to human thinking.

I'll never understand why people want a plateform to "die"salxis

Yea if a platform dies then only sadness can come of it...

[QUOTE="salxis"]I'll never understand why people want a plateform to "die"HonkyTonkGamer

I'm not saying I want it to happen it is just going to happen.

Look at Nvidia recently there are rumors they are looking at options because of struggling sales and feel they are a dying breed in PC GPU market.

Now that the Cows Lemmings can't bash the Wii because of it's awesome 2010 lineup they resort to bashing Hermits now? Geez Louise.

ps3 and 360 are doing a pretty good job of it already, dont need 720/ps4 for that.

yet another PC bashing thread. Just face the facts. Consoles will never be as powerful as PCs. They may be using the current technology at the time, but as soon as they are released to the public, Intel, AMD, or NVidia has made better parts that completely surpass consoles. PCs will always be one step ahead, thanks to the changing technology, the huge community, and the huge support of games.

Each generation consoles become more and more like PC's

At some point console gamers are going to wake up and realise the only difference is the brand name

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

No one can argue that PC gaming is at it's lowest point sales wise and amount of people gaming on PC ever. And it is only going to continue to drindle down drastically.

By mid way through PS4 and 720 and Onlive. And maybe even a similar service offered by MS and maybe even Sony. I'm sure they want in on the Onlive type service. PC gaming is going to be limping along like a badly wounded dog on life support.

Vandalvideo

Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.

But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse.

Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

Maybe AC2 is coming out laterto give the developers time to take advantage of the far superior hardware at their disposal?

Oh no PC gaming is dying.

I will be the first PC gamer to ask the great consoles to show pity on me and take them into their flock, I will obey you Sony and your PS4, just spare my life and spare my mouse and keyboard. You other PC gamers should follow suit and quickly maybe Sony will take pity on us all and not exterminate us like the TC said. :)

Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.HonkyTonkGamer

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse. Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

you dont need to kill whats already dying

We have already seen less and less and far fewer PC games in the past few years. And the good PC games come to 360 and most of the time to PS3. Look at even the mighty Crytek Engine that runs the ubber ultra owns anything graphics king Crysis games. Well they are making this engine run for home systems. Why because they know PC gaming is close to going totally belly up. I know we have been saying this for years. Look at Nvidia recently there has been rumors of them folding and ATI taking over.

With the inclusion of networks like Onlive that will offer full digital DL and maxed out PC level graphics. And with the next 720 and PS4 offering close to endless storage space and DL content for gaming. PC gaming will be so close to dead in the water it is not even funny.

And look even the holy grail of PC gaming dedicated servers are starting to become no more on PC even.

If you are a PC gamer hang on to your fond memories why you can because you are in your last years of survival:shock:

HonkyTonkGamer

I really shouldn't bother but.. oh what the hell.

PC gaming is not dying nor will it die when the next generation of consoles arrive. The simple reality is that there's a billion PC's out there and the number of new PC's sold every year surpasses the sales of consoles in their entire life time. Most PC's are not used for gaming of course however as long as the machines are there people are going to play on them, as long as people are playing on them there's a market for game developers, as long as there is a market, there is PC Gaming.

Consoles DO die because of their fixed nature; they get outdated and scrapped in favor of something else. The PC as a platform is fluid and thus doesn't die.

That explains why the PC won't die. Now, I'd love for you to back up just a few of the claims you've been making?! Why are you saying that game sales are down on the PC? Do you have any substantial to back up your claim that nVidia is quitting the consumer level graphics card market? If nVidia was to quit, why do you think this would hurt the PC more than the console makers?

Why are you claiming there's anything such as endless storage space? When I started gaming the idea that you'd ever need a whole megabyte of storage for anything was ludicrous. A year or two later the idea that we'd ever fill out 10 MB hard drive was crazy, then the CD was sooo big that no one would ever need all of it.. then it was the DVD and now developers are filling up blueray disks. The difference is simply that the consoles cannot upgrade effectively after launch, the PC can.

I short; do you have anything to back up your claims?

pc gaming is doing so good but the supports continue to dwindle and dwindle. I think we have alot of delusional people in SW.

*Looks for AnnoyedDragon*

you dont need to kill whats already dying

sikanderahmed

agreed 100 percent.

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.Vandalvideo

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse. Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

So wait Ubisoft who has many many years of experience working with the almighty PC platform now all the sudden you say they must be icompetent:?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

No one can argue that PC gaming is at it's lowest point sales wise and amount of people gaming on PC ever. And it is only going to continue to drindle down drastically.

By mid way through PS4 and 720 and Onlive. And maybe even a similar service offered by MS and maybe even Sony. I'm sure they want in on the Onlive type service. PC gaming is going to be limping along like a badly wounded dog on life support.

HonkyTonkGamer

Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.

But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse.

Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

A central part of the problem is that you're looking at the market from a console player's point of view. The PC has more games released than the X360, more games are developed and more games released. You're mentioning titles that are produced with the consoles in mind.. nothing wrong with that mind you, but You don't mention top tier games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico was released on the X360 months after the PC version. Your argument amounts to saying that the X360 is dying because Uncharted hasn't been released on the X360.

Now.. the most profitable game .. ever? World of Warcraft on the PC. The most played game in the world.. ever? Farmville, the facebook app, with over 80 million regular users.. that more than all X360 and PS3 sold (too bad the game sucks but eh..).

Now, is there a problem with piracy on the PC? Yes, no doubt about it, and yes that's going to affect the PC games market. Is the problem ever going to go away, no not entirely but odds are that solutions will be found and an equilibrium reached (I think EA's DLC focused approach is one of the better ideas I've seen when it comes to deal with the problem). But it doesn't mean that PC gaming is dying, it's changing, the consoles will have to go through many of the same changes and challenges when the next generation approaches.

So wait Ubisoft who has many many years of experience working with the almighty PC platform now all the sudden you say they must be icompetent:?HonkyTonkGamer

You don't think the PC evolves as much as consoles?

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

The-Mosher

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Just like all the other times PC gaming was supposed to die, right?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

HonkyTonkGamer

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

you are totally right honky tonk gamer, games like Madden not being produced on the PC is supposed to be good according to hermits lol, i mean come on, Pc Gaming is definitely the second rate gaming venue sales wise when compared to consoles. the gap is also beginning to widen.

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Fine; prove to me that the total amount of ALL pc gamers now is less than it has been in the past. Also, prove to me that the total amount of ALL pc revenue is lower now than it has been in the past. I'm expecting statistics too. Mazoch

Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.

But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse.

Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

A central part of the problem is that you're looking at the market from a console player's point of view. The PC has more games released than the X360, more games are developed and more games released. You're mentioning titles that are produced with the consoles in mind.. nothing wrong with that mind you, but You don't mention top tier games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico was released on the X360 months after the PC version. Your argument amounts to saying that the X360 is dying because Uncharted hasn't been released on the X360.

Now.. the most profitable game .. ever? World of Warcraft on the PC. The most played game in the world.. ever? Farmville, the facebook app, with over 80 million regular users.. that more than all X360 and PS3 sold (too bad the game sucks but eh..).

Now, is there a problem with piracy on the PC? Yes, no doubt about it, and yes that's going to affect the PC games market. Is the problem ever going to go away, no not entirely but odds are that solutions will be found and an equilibrium reached (I think EA's DLC focused approach is one of the better ideas I've seen when it comes to deal with the problem). But it doesn't mean that PC gaming is dying, it's changing, the consoles will have to go through many of the same changes and challenges when the next generation approaches.

And games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico are starting to become normal for home systems weather it is late or not. You used to never see these kinds of games on home systems. once sacred PC games are becoming normal on Home systems especialy the 360 MS systems.

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

360reachwake

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

you are totally right honky tonk gamer, games like Madden not being produced on the PC is supposed to be good according to hermits lol, i mean come on, Pc Gaming is definitely the second rate gaming venue sales wise when compared to consoles. the gap is also beginning to widen.

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

HonkyTonkGamer

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

This list doesn't look small, does it?

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

HonkyTonkGamer

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

Have you ever looked at Steam. Steam sales have been doubling for the last few years. Steam, along with other DD services like GOG and Direct2Drive, are becomming the new standards for PC gaming. The only problem is Steam and other DD sites refuse to show sales numbers to the NPD and other sources. The only thing to tell about PC sales is sales in retail, which is going down (the reason why fanboys clainm that PC gaming is dying). Although I don't agree with it, DD is becoming the new standard for PC gaming.

It is growing every year, but the only problem is DD sites do not show sales numbers, which cause misconceptions like this one.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

Well just go google info on this. I'm to lazy right now I may later.

Here is a quick example though. Look at big games that are coming out later or being cancled on PC. Alan Wake comes to mind.

But here is a good example. Big games like Assasins Creed 2 comes out many months later for PC. Why because PC gaming is taking a major back seat and it is only going to get much worse.

Also look at a game like COD once a dominant PC game. Sales crush the PC on home systems now. And like I said PC games are even moving away from Dedicated servers. It's all about money and PC gaming is not a priority to developers anymore.

HonkyTonkGamer

A central part of the problem is that you're looking at the market from a console player's point of view. The PC has more games released than the X360, more games are developed and more games released. You're mentioning titles that are produced with the consoles in mind.. nothing wrong with that mind you, but You don't mention top tier games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico was released on the X360 months after the PC version. Your argument amounts to saying that the X360 is dying because Uncharted hasn't been released on the X360.

Now.. the most profitable game .. ever? World of Warcraft on the PC. The most played game in the world.. ever? Farmville, the facebook app, with over 80 million regular users.. that more than all X360 and PS3 sold (too bad the game sucks but eh..).

Now, is there a problem with piracy on the PC? Yes, no doubt about it, and yes that's going to affect the PC games market. Is the problem ever going to go away, no not entirely but odds are that solutions will be found and an equilibrium reached (I think EA's DLC focused approach is one of the better ideas I've seen when it comes to deal with the problem). But it doesn't mean that PC gaming is dying, it's changing, the consoles will have to go through many of the same changes and challenges when the next generation approaches.

And games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico are starting to become normal for home systems weather it is late or not. You used to never see these kinds of games on home systems. once sacred PC games are becoming normal on Home systems especialy the 360 MS systems.

The Lemmings need to organize themselves for some sort of coup d'état, the Cows round here are grazing it seems.

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

blizzvalve

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

Have you ever looked at Steam. Steam sales have been doubling for the last few years. Steam, along with other DD services like GOG and Direct2Drive, are becomming the new standards for PC gaming. The only problem is Steam and other DD sites refuse to show sales numbers to the NPD and other sources. The only thing to tell about PC sales is sales in retail, which is going down (the reason why fanboys clainm that PC gaming is dying). Although I don't agree with it, DD is becoming the new standard for PC gaming.

It is growing every year, but the only problem is DD sites do not show sales numbers, which cause misconceptions like this one.

And this brings up another point I had. I can see a service like Steam maybe even MS and Sony cutting deals and having Steam on there next systems to compete with a service like Onlive.

Either way with the home systems truly becoming the all in one multimedia home device PC days are very numbered.

[QUOTE="360reachwake"]

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

True_Gamer_

you are totally right honky tonk gamer, games like Madden not being produced on the PC is supposed to be good according to hermits lol, i mean come on, Pc Gaming is definitely the second rate gaming venue sales wise when compared to consoles. the gap is also beginning to widen.

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Oi, more "PC Gaming is dying!!!1!!!!" threads. :roll:

For the past decade, every console fanboy has been saying every year that PC Gaming will be done for. Well, its been nearly a decade, and I still see games being released for it.

blizzvalve

Far fewer and far less and game sales are way down on PC. And I said about mid way through next gen is when the PC will truly being on life support and begging for mercy. 85% of hermits will become Cows or Lemmings next gen they will have no choice.

Have you ever looked at Steam. Steam sales have been doubling for the last few years. Steam, along with other DD services like GOG and Direct2Drive, are becomming the new standards for PC gaming. The only problem is Steam and other DD sites refuse to show sales numbers to the NPD and other sources. The only thing to tell about PC sales is sales in retail, which is going down (the reason why fanboys clainm that PC gaming is dying). Although I don't agree with it, DD is becoming the new standard for PC gaming.

It is growing every year, but the only problem is DD sites do not show sales numbers, which cause misconceptions like this one.

yeah please, so big they dont even release numbers on it. So big I know ...

And games like Total War, Star Craft 2, Tropico are starting to become normal for home systems weather it is late or not. You used to never see these kinds of games on home systems. once sacred PC games are becoming normal on Home systems especialy the 360 MS systems.HonkyTonkGamer