8 Reasons Why PC Gaming isn't Dead

I saw this article on the PC GAMER UK web... I have to say that, being a PC Gamer, I agree with some of the reasons (obviosly not with number 7 now that Will Wright said Spore is going to be on consoles)

I mainly agree with number 1, 3, 4 and 6

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

8 Reasons Why PC Gaming isn't Dead

7.-SPORE (I SUPPOSE THIS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SPORE WAS GOING TO BE ON CONSOLES)
When a design genius like Will Wright chooses to put his game on PC, then he clearly has confidence in the strength of the platform - and, of course, there's the fact that an awful lot of people have PCs in their homes.

It's just all about knowing how to go about tapping into that, and Spore is such a title. You may have already decided to hate Spore, or you may have already decided you want to have its babies. Whatever - Will Wright's latest game is going to be a MASSIVE seller on PC.

8.-INTO THE UKNOWN
Because consoles have steadily stolen stuff that used to be unique to the PC over the years - online play, patches, even genres, for example - the lines are becoming increasingly blurred.

But the upside of that is that publishers and developers are now being nudged into exploring fresh ideas with the PC platform.

You can see this happening already with the likes of Battlefield Heroes and Quake Zero, games from big companies which will be free to download and play - how awesome is that! Expect this to be a steadily growing trend.

Here is the link for the article:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=182500

Sins of a Solar empire = PC gaming isn't deadTermite551

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

[QUOTE="Termite551"]Sins of a Solar empire = PC gaming isn't deadkaos-hero

Uhm there is music and sound. People enjoy playing it, because it is very detailed and has a lot of depth. Pretty much the opposite of WiC.

Uhm... why did PC gamer add MMO in the list? Your points aren't really strong for it either. There have already been MMO games on consoles now, and it's probably only a question of time before there's lots of quality MMO's coming to consoles. Furthermore, I don't see how the network structure limits the consoles. Dedicated servers are just as easy to set up for consoles as they are for PC's. Another point is that while there is a console that has you paying for online, it's arguably less than what you pay for PC MMO's, so there's still room for a subscription fee on top of that.

I'll give you that right now MMO's are a strong point of PC gaming, but in one or two years this can change completely. Then again, this counts for more points than only the one about MMO's. Like the online distribution. Xbox live is slowly going in that direction too, with the most recent step being downloadable xbox games.

For the rest they got some good points though. PC is just an extremely flexible system.

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

PS3_3DO

do u even sleep or just keep ranting about PC IS DEAD PC IS DEAD blah blah blah blah ...........

and as if piracy isnt on consoles

AND spore will remain a pc exclusive. the ds is getting a spinoff , the wii version will be watered down, and expect the ps3/xbox360 to be worse than the wi.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

jaisimar_chelse

do u even sleep or just keep ranting about PC IS DEAD PC IS DEAD blah blah blah blah ...........

and as if piracy isnt on consoles

AND spore will remain a pc exclusive. the ds is getting a spinoff , the wii version will be watered down, and expect the ps3/xbox360 to be worse than the wi.

There are many more reasons why PC gaming cannot die.

It is simply impossible for it to die, and for consoles to strive - in many respects console gaming needs PC gaming.

Of course people have got to bash the strongest platform with somthing.

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

PS3_3DO

Costing the industry 1 BILLION dollards annually.

PC gaming already has digital distribution which already makes up a solid if not large portion of sales.

Uhm... why did PC gamer add MMO in the list? Your points aren't really strong for it either. There have already been MMO games on consoles now, and it's probably only a question of time before there's lots of quality MMO's coming to consoles. Furthermore, I don't see how the network structure limits the consoles. Dedicated servers are just as easy to set up for consoles as they are for PC's. Another point is that while there is a console that has you paying for online, it's arguably less than what you pay for PC MMO's, so there's still room for a subscription fee on top of that.

I'll give you that right now MMO's are a strong point of PC gaming, but in one or two years this can change completely. Then again, this counts for more points than only the one about MMO's. Like the online distribution. Xbox live is slowly going in that direction too, with the most recent step being downloadable xbox games.

For the rest they got some good points though. PC is just an extremely flexible system.

11Marcel

And I need to protest the claimant's point #5. You can play MMO's on a Live Silver account (which is free). You simply pay the MMO fee like everyone else.

Uhm... why did PC gamer add MMO in the list? Your points aren't really strong for it either. There have already been MMO games on consoles now, and it's probably only a question of time before there's lots of quality MMO's coming to consoles. Furthermore, I don't see how the network structure limits the consoles. Dedicated servers are just as easy to set up for consoles as they are for PC's. Another point is that while there is a console that has you paying for online, it's arguably less than what you pay for PC MMO's, so there's still room for a subscription fee on top of that.

I'll give you that right now MMO's are a strong point of PC gaming, but in one or two years this can change completely. Then again, this counts for more points than only the one about MMO's. Like the online distribution. Xbox live is slowly going in that direction too, with the most recent step being downloadable xbox games.

For the rest they got some good points though. PC is just an extremely flexible system.

11Marcel

Name 1 good MMO on the consoles that works well? and has sold well? No Final Fantasy 11 is not one ...

Age of conan is gettin TERRIBLE feedback off testers...

Theres no evidance of any good console MMO's whatsoever.

GOD!! See this is what im talking about, how can a system "die" and why do people always ask this!!!!???catlin_czirr

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

skrat_01

Costing the industry 1 BILLION dollards annually.

PC gaming already has digital distribution which already makes up a solid if not large portion of sales.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

Taalon

Costing the industry 1 BILLION dollards annually.

PC gaming already has digital distribution which already makes up a solid if not large portion of sales.

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

PS3_3DO

Haven't you considered marrying wok7?

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

skrat_01

Costing the industry 1 BILLION dollards annually.

PC gaming already has digital distribution which already makes up a solid if not large portion of sales.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

vash47

Haven't you considered marrying wok7?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

dont forget ResEv1l - he also has the same problem

as a PC gamer i'm not remotely worried about the state of PC gaming. I remember when PS1 was launched, that was the death of pc gaming. Same with PS2/xbox and again with 360/PS3. It's still here and going strong. PC still gets many exclusives and ports of great console titles. The only reason PC does lose a few exclusives is that noone pays devs to keep games on PC and only PC. This is what most consolites fail to realise. Devs don't choose to make console games exclusive because they just like the system, hell no, MS or Sony pay them money to so, or come to some publishing agreement. PC just doesn't have this.

Some devs have moaned about sales of games on PC, fact is these were poor games and PC gamers often have higher standards than casual console gamers. If a game is getting poor user reviews on forums etc, it will not sell. Remember, PC games sell on word of mouth and reviews. We don't have fancy big T.V adds brainwashing people into buying. If the community says a game is bad the word soon spreads and will heavily affect sales. UT3 sold poor because the community gave it a hard time. Stalker on the other hand, well, this was spoken of very highly within the PC community and as a result sold very well and is still selling now.

The pc market is very very different from the console market. Just look at xbox live, at this moment in time CoD4 is by far the most played game, many other games dont even get played online and it can be impossible at times to get a game. PC however is very different. I can pretty much load any game up from the last 3 years and get a game. The PC gamer base is spread over so many games not just 1 or 2. This also applies to sales.

PC gaming is not in trouble, nor is it dieing, people just use console standards to judge PC and it gives a false impression of the true state it is in. This will never change, some ignorant gamers/devs will just never see the light. I for one have stopped caring, the fact 2008 is going to be yet another great year for PC gaming proves all these people wrong.

No TC there is only 1 reason why the PC is not dead. RTS games own. Ignorant gamers continually nag about how the controls of the Wii are lame and blah blah blah. But the truth is whatever the genre, controls will always matter. With PC a mouse and keyboard are totally essential for precise RTS gaming.

Wii will soon take away fps controls for itself. The mouse will never feel like holding a gun. Wiimote will. AS for RTS games, Wii may take that away from PC's too as the wiimote is a pointing device.

as a PC gamer i'm not remotely worried about the state of PC gaming. I remember when PS1 was launched, that was the death of pc gaming. Same with PS2/xbox and again with 360/PS3. It's still here and going strong. PC still gets many exclusives and ports of great console titles. The only reason PC does lose a few exclusives is that noone pays devs to keep games on PC and only PC. This is what most consolites fail to realise. Devs don't choose to make console games exclusive because they just like the system, hell no, MS or Sony pay them money to so, or come to some publishing agreement. PC just doesn't have this.

Some devs have moaned about sales of games on PC, fact is these were poor games and PC gamers often have higher standards than casual console gamers. If a game is getting poor user reviews on forums etc, it will not sell. Remember, PC games sell on word of mouth and reviews. We don't have fancy big T.V adds brainwashing people into buying. If the community says a game is bad the word soon spreads and will heavily affect sales. UT3 sold poor because the community gave it a hard time. Stalker on the other hand, well, this was spoken of very highly within the PC community and as a result sold very well and is still selling now.

The pc market is very very different from the console market. Just look at xbox live, at this moment in time CoD4 is by far the most played game, many other games dont even get played online and it can be impossible at times to get a game. PC however is very different. I can pretty much load any game up from the last 3 years and get a game. The PC gamer base is spread over so many games not just 1 or 2. This also applies to sales.

PC gaming is not in trouble, nor is it dieing, people just use console standards to judge PC and it gives a false impression of the true state it is in. This will never change, some ignorant gamers/devs will just never see the light. I for one have stopped caring, the fact 2008 is going to be yet another great year for PC gaming proves all these people wrong.

Frozzik

SO TRUE

No TC there is only 1 reason why the PC is not dead. RTS games own. Ignorant gamers continually nag about how the controls of the Wii are lame and blah blah blah. But the truth is whatever the genre, controls will always matter. With PC a mouse and keyboard are totally essential for precise RTS gaming.

Wii will soon take away fps controls for itself. The mouse will never feel like holding a gun. Wiimote will. AS for RTS games, Wii may take that away from PC's too as the wiimote is a pointing device.

razu_gamer

You mean the lagtastic wiimote that doesnt work like a proper light gun? :roll: ...

Your forgetting Simulation games, not arcade games like Ace Combat 6, FPS is still the best on PC, MMORPGs with any kind of depth will be the best on PC aswell.

Wii good for FPS? :lol: better than Dual analog maybe ... but even then claiming its more realistic than the other too is just laughable... none of them are realistic nowhere near.

as a PC gamer i'm not remotely worried about the state of PC gaming. I remember when PS1 was launched, that was the death of pc gaming. Same with PS2/xbox and again with 360/PS3. It's still here and going strong. PC still gets many exclusives and ports of great console titles. The only reason PC does lose a few exclusives is that noone pays devs to keep games on PC and only PC. This is what most consolites fail to realise. Devs don't choose to make console games exclusive because they just like the system, hell no, MS or Sony pay them money to so, or come to some publishing agreement. PC just doesn't have this.

Some devs have moaned about sales of games on PC, fact is these were poor games and PC gamers often have higher standards than casual console gamers. If a game is getting poor user reviews on forums etc, it will not sell. Remember, PC games sell on word of mouth and reviews. We don't have fancy big T.V adds brainwashing people into buying. If the community says a game is bad the word soon spreads and will heavily affect sales. UT3 sold poor because the community gave it a hard time. Stalker on the other hand, well, this was spoken of very highly within the PC community and as a result sold very well and is still selling now.

The pc market is very very different from the console market. Just look at xbox live, at this moment in time CoD4 is by far the most played game, many other games dont even get played online and it can be impossible at times to get a game. PC however is very different. I can pretty much load any game up from the last 3 years and get a game. The PC gamer base is spread over so many games not just 1 or 2. This also applies to sales.

PC gaming is not in trouble, nor is it dieing, people just use console standards to judge PC and it gives a false impression of the true state it is in. This will never change, some ignorant gamers/devs will just never see the light. I for one have stopped caring, the fact 2008 is going to be yet another great year for PC gaming proves all these people wrong.

Frozzik

No TC there is only 1 reason why the PC is not dead. RTS games own. Ignorant gamers continually nag about how the controls of the Wii are lame and blah blah blah. But the truth is whatever the genre, controls will always matter. With PC a mouse and keyboard are totally essential for precise RTS gaming.

Wii will soon take away fps controls for itself. The mouse will never feel like holding a gun. Wiimote will. AS for RTS games, Wii may take that away from PC's too as the wiimote is a pointing device.

razu_gamer

yesssss, thats why red steel was game of the century. and as for controllers the consoles only have there dual analog controlers , BUT the pc has choices - from K/M to controllers to joysticks to racing wheels. AND if ur talking about innovation theres -

Optimus Maximus Keyboard & Novint falcon

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Ilikemyname420

:roll: Some people have a really short-term memory....

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Ilikemyname420

Why are you bringing the price thing up? Price these days is better than ever, i paid £2000 for a good pc a couple of years ago, that would only play crysis on medium now. You can get good pc's for very very cheap these days, £700 in UK will get u a pc that plays Crysis on high at good FPS. There is only ONE game that really pushes PC tech at the mo, that is Crysis. The fact this game looks great even on medium seems to be overlooked.

My old dell 3ghz 1g ram and a 6200 is playing UT3/ CoH etc.

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

aliblabla2007

Wow I had a 6800XT and by the time oblivion came out there has nxtgen cards did i need one....no i played at over 30fps w/ hdr. I hope ur joking else I am gonna have to say fake-boy.

PC is not dead, its on life support :P

Nah not really it can only get better Spore will rock

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Ilikemyname420

PC hardware is at its cheapest per performance, and technology is so grossly overpowered that manafacturers are delaying the release of their next series of card / CPU releases simply to sell more of their current hardware - as its still grossly powerful.

A 8800GT runs every single game - scratch Crysis - at maximum settings, at high resolutions, and is at the price of a mid range card. Quad Cores are extremelly well priced, and great Core 2 Duos cost squat - motherboards are just as affordable as ever.

Memory prices (DDR2) at at an all time low, and cost literralley nothing - less than half of what DDR used to cost when it was the norm, hard drives deliver more GB per dollar and optical drives cost squat.

Every gen there is an exeption game. Doom 3s ultra high had almost no noticeable difference to the standard highest setting (texture details) - trivial much?, and Crysis is the only game now that pushes the limits of current hardware as its simply ahead of its time

I upgraded my PC after 3 1/2 years (last year_ - a $800/750 dollar overhaul, just like I did in 2004 for the same price, which kept me gaming for 3 years until the next upgrade.

Big difference this upgrade is that my 8800GT and Quad Core deliver much more performance than my X850pro and old AMD CPU ever did for their time.

Just learn when to upgrade, and you should be fine. PC gaming is at the cheapest and best its been in AGES.

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Ilikemyname420

Am i the only one who wants the game's highest settings to require more than it's curreintly possible (and i don't mean crap optimization)? Making cutting edge content motivates hardware manufacturers to create cutting edge technology, thus pushing technology further.

If all games can be maxed out on current platforms then hardware development either moves at snail-pace or ginds to a halt.

I want more games like Crysis, games that raise the bar higher and higher.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone.

$20,000 a year? We are supposed to believe that?

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.PS3_3DO

Yup just like its the enemy of consoles, movies and music. Yet they are all still here. The whole PC and piracy thing is way overrated.

It is funny how people continue to say that PC Gaming is dead and in the meantime PC's get as exclusives some of the TOP games for each categoty:

FPS: Crysis

RGP: The Witcher

RTS: Sins of Solar Empire

MMO: World of Warcraft

You may or may not like those games BUT it can't be argued that they are TOP QUALITY games in each genre. Some of those games may be ported to consoles , BUT RIGHT NOW, it is tought not to see that developers continue to work for the PC

I only needed one reason

Blizzard

PC is not dead, its on life support :P

Nah not really it can only get better Spore will rock

flowdee79

Thing is though we're coming into a recession and this is all while PC hardware prices are still going up. It's costing more than ever to stay on that cutting edge and thats the one reason it's dying, the other reason is the software thats new you can't even run to it's fullest. For the last few years new games are designed for hardware that didn't even exist for it to run to it's fullest or even playable sometimes ie: doom 3 needing 512mb video ram for ultra mode when the highest card was 256mb for a good 3-4 months, oblivion pulled the same thing when for the first months the highest end system would struggle to ply it in hdr at even 10-15fps, same with medieval total war etc etc etc. Thing is I remember when new games would run playable on the highest settings if you had a decent computer...nowadays that's not even good enough, and it's one reason I have DRASTICALLY cut down in buying PC games.

Litterally to Stay on that bleeding edge all the time I'd have spent well over $100,000 in the last 5 years alone. As a PC gamer it's easier and cheaper for me to not buy PC games till they're a few years old...It's like crysis looks great, but do I really wanna shell out $10,000 to end up still be playing a slide show, and then 3 months down the road I'll be scrapping everything I just put in the system so I can play it at a decent framerate??? It doesn't make sense unless I'm loaded.

Ilikemyname420

First, PC game settings are adjustable. You assume that a game that isn't set to all-maximum settings is unacceptable when the acceptable mark typically falls in medium. Maximum is typically reserved for uber-enthusiasts who keep top-of-the-line rigs...or those who upgrade their rigs later on and would like to see some reward out of the investment.

Second, sure the top-of-the-line PC parts like the 8800GTX are expensive...but the just-off-the-top (like the 8800GTS) can be surprisingly affordable. I should know because I'm planning to build a PC upgrade pretty soon. Just waiting for Intel's new line of Yorkfield quad-cores like the Q9450 (you could also try out a dual-core E8400). And those 8800's I mentioned will probably get a nice price drop when GeForce 9's become the new top of the line. Good DDR2-800 memory (with 4-4-4-12 timings, too) is less than $100, and I'm finding 4GB at less than $150. IOW, if you've been wanting to upgrade or rebuild your PC rig, a month or two from now will be a pretty darn good time.

The enemy of PC gaming is Piracy.

PS3_3DO

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

XenoNinja

Imagine a guy with the WII in his sig saying this. OH THE IRONY.

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

XenoNinja

One good reason why Wii is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

XenoNinja

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

HuusAsking

From now on, I'll only consider a game good if it rates higher than Super Mario Galaxy at gamerankings.