8 Reasons Why PC Gaming isn't Dead

To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) thrones

And????? You are saying we have more FPS than the console market, which is probably true and they are the best versions. RPGS have always been on PC, diablo is not a recent game. A/A? action adventure? You do know PC is getting DMC right? After NHM and DMC where is the next A/A game? Eh? PC also has alot more A/A games coming this year.

Also I'm glad PC users don't have to go through insipired rehash number 4,5,6 to get good games.

jangojay

To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) thrones

That's funny because I remember having a lot of fun playing Heroes 3 and Worms 2 on a single monitor with my friends back in the days....

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

In the end of the day PC gamers can keep RTS they all suck except Starcraft and Warcraft 3,MMOS I've played my share and I'm glade I dont play em any more since well for example playing WoW is $180 a year and thats one game...

PC gamers need to realize that two genres cant keep PC alive and healthy with FPS making their way to consoles and sometimes even selling better than their PC counter parts or they stay about the same (sales wise).RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).A/A games especially so far in 08 have made their debut back to consoles with a long MIA of A/A in 07, NMH and DMC4 within a month of each other release wise is pure Ecstasy for A/A fans.

Now I'm not trying to say PC gaming is dead all I'm saying is its not improving or losing.

jangojay

And????? You are saying we have more FPS than the console market, which is probably true and they are the best versions. RPGS have always been on PC, diablo is not a recent game. A/A? action adventure? You do know PC is getting DMC right? After NHM and DMC where is the next A/A game? Eh? PC also has alot more A/A games coming this year.

Best in what? (FPS) maybe prettier graphics which casuals dont care about or mods which make a game more appealing cause you cant get into it without them?.

You seriously want me to list all the AA+ RPGS on consoles? cause I would love to see the look on your face.

PC getting DMC4 oh noes I'm so jealous of the 13 people who are gonna buy it :roll:

Lets see the A/A games for consoles for 08 from IGN (these are mostly multiplats and only 2 360 exclusives that I bothered to look for, Wii is not included)

Action/Adventure or Action Adventure games

The Club (multiplat)

Dynasty Warriors 6 (multiplat)

Lost Planet (ps3,360 a year earlier)

Lost (multiplat)

Army of Two (multiplat)

Viking: BoA (multiplat)

GTAIV (multiplat)

Hail to the chimp (multiplat?)

Hei$t (multiplat?)

Ironman (multiplat)

The Bourne game (multiplat)

Highlander (multiplat)

Lego Indiana Jones (multiplat)

MGS4 (ps3 )

Fracture (multiplat?)

Starwars unleashed (multiplat)

Golden Axe BR (multiplat?)

Bionic commando (multiplat)

Ghostbusters (multiplat)

Prototype (multiplat)

Tomb Raider (multiplat?)

Alive (multiplat?)

Darksiders (multiplat)

NG2 (360)

Dead Space (multiplat)

Infamous (ps3?)

Just Cause 2 (multiplat?)

PoP untitled (multiplat?)

Too Human (360)

edit note: didnt see you put "Also I'm glad PC users don't have to go through insipired rehash number 4,5,6 to get good games"

But hey guess what we get awesome sequels, PC gamers get Patchs and Expansions that might add a thing or two but hey good for them right? :roll:

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

And????? You are saying we have more FPS than the console market, which is probably true and they are the best versions. RPGS have always been on PC, diablo is not a recent game. A/A? action adventure? You do know PC is getting DMC right? After NHM and DMC where is the next A/A game? Eh? PC also has alot more A/A games coming this year.

Also I'm glad PC users don't have to go through insipired rehash number 4,5,6 to get good games.

HuusAsking

And consoles don't get RTS/Simulators/MMOs or Games with depth in general. It's a trade off.

To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) thrones

I also used to go over to my friends house who owns a 360 to play CS since he has two computers and that was more fun then playing 360.

[QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) br0kenrabbit

Consolites just don't want to see the light...Guiltfeeder566

When I set up my computer at home im sitting right next to a giant window. I usually close it but when im not gaming I get alittle bit of a tan in the summer just sitting there.

[QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) Killfox

I also used to go over to my friends house who owns a 360 to play CS since he has two computers and that was more fun then playing 360.

I totally forgot everyone has 2 PCs, gosh I must've spaced out...

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) Ballroompirate

I also used to go over to my friends house who owns a 360 to play CS since he has two computers and that was more fun then playing 360.

I totally forgot everyone has 2 PCs, gosh I must've spaced out...

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

In the end of the day PC gamers can keep RTS they all suck except Starcraft and Warcraft 3,MMOS I've played my share and I'm glade I dont play em any more since well for example playing WoW is $180 a year and thats one game...

PC gamers need to realize that two genres cant keep PC alive and healthy with FPS making their way to consoles and sometimes even selling better than their PC counter parts or they stay about the same (sales wise).RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).A/A games especially so far in 08 have made their debut back to consoles with a long MIA of A/A in 07, NMH and DMC4 within a month of each other release wise is pure Ecstasy for A/A fans.

Now I'm not trying to say PC gaming is dead all I'm saying is its not improving or losing.

Ballroompirate

And????? You are saying we have more FPS than the console market, which is probably true and they are the best versions. RPGS have always been on PC, diablo is not a recent game. A/A? action adventure? You do know PC is getting DMC right? After NHM and DMC where is the next A/A game? Eh? PC also has alot more A/A games coming this year.

Best in what? (FPS) maybe prettier graphics which casuals dont care about or mods which make a game more appealing cause you cant get into it without them?.

You seriously want me to list all the AA+ RPGS on consoles? cause I would love to see the look on your face.

PC getting DMC4 oh noes I'm so jealous of the 13 people who are gonna buy it :roll:

Lets see the A/A games for consoles for 08 from IGN (these are mostly multiplats and only 2 360 exclusives that I bothered to look for, Wii is not included)

Action/Adventure or Action Adventure games

The Club (multiplat)

Dynasty Warriors 6 (multiplat)

Lost Planet (ps3,360 a year earlier)

Lost (multiplat)

Army of Two (multiplat)

Viking: BoA (multiplat)

GTAIV (multiplat)

Hail to the chimp (multiplat?)

Hei$t (multiplat?)

Ironman (multiplat)

The Bourne game (multiplat)

Highlander (multiplat)

Lego Indiana Jones (multiplat)

MGS4 (ps3 )

Fracture (multiplat?)

Starwars unleashed (multiplat)

Golden Axe BR (multiplat?)

Bionic commando (multiplat)

Ghostbusters (multiplat)

Prototype (multiplat)

Tomb Raider (multiplat?)

Alive (multiplat?)

Darksiders (multiplat)

NG2 (360)

Dead Space (multiplat)

Infamous (ps3?)

Just Cause 2 (multiplat?)

PoP untitled (multiplat?)

Too Human (360)

edit note: didnt see you put "Also I'm glad PC users don't have to go through insipired rehash number 4,5,6 to get good games"

But hey guess what we get awesome sequels, PC gamers get Patchs and Expansions that might add a thing or two but hey good for them right? :roll:

I'm sorry but you fail in every possible way. What are you trying to prove with this stupid list?

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

In the end of the day PC gamers can keep RTS they all suck except Starcraft and Warcraft 3,MMOS I've played my share and I'm glade I dont play em any more since well for example playing WoW is $180 a year and thats one game...

PC gamers need to realize that two genres cant keep PC alive and healthy with FPS making their way to consoles and sometimes even selling better than their PC counter parts or they stay about the same (sales wise).RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).A/A games especially so far in 08 have made their debut back to consoles with a long MIA of A/A in 07, NMH and DMC4 within a month of each other release wise is pure Ecstasy for A/A fans.

Now I'm not trying to say PC gaming is dead all I'm saying is its not improving or losing.

Ballroompirate

And????? You are saying we have more FPS than the console market, which is probably true and they are the best versions. RPGS have always been on PC, diablo is not a recent game. A/A? action adventure? You do know PC is getting DMC right? After NHM and DMC where is the next A/A game? Eh? PC also has alot more A/A games coming this year.

Best in what? (FPS) maybe prettier graphics which casuals dont care about or mods which make a game more appealing cause you cant get into it without them?.

You seriously want me to list all the AA+ RPGS on consoles? cause I would love to see the look on your face.

PC getting DMC4 oh noes I'm so jealous of the 13 people who are gonna buy it :roll:

Lets see the A/A games for consoles for 08 from IGN (these are mostly multiplats and only 2 360 exclusives that I bothered to look for, Wii is not included)

Action/Adventure or Action Adventure games

The Club (multiplat)

Dynasty Warriors 6 (multiplat)

Lost Planet (ps3,360 a year earlier)

Lost (multiplat)

Army of Two (multiplat)

Viking: BoA (multiplat)

GTAIV (multiplat)

Hail to the chimp (multiplat?)

Hei$t (multiplat?)

Ironman (multiplat)

The Bourne game (multiplat)

Highlander (multiplat)

Lego Indiana Jones (multiplat)

MGS4 (ps3 )

Fracture (multiplat?)

Starwars unleashed (multiplat)

Golden Axe BR (multiplat?)

Bionic commando (multiplat)

Ghostbusters (multiplat)

Prototype (multiplat)

Tomb Raider (multiplat?)

Alive (multiplat?)

Darksiders (multiplat)

NG2 (360)

Dead Space (multiplat)

Infamous (ps3?)

Just Cause 2 (multiplat?)

PoP untitled (multiplat?)

Too Human (360)

I meant to say when.. but thanks for this big list of crap. Here I'll make one for pc as well.

Gray Matter

Vampyre Story

Nikopol: The Carnival of Immortals

Dracula 3

Mata Hari

Sherlock Holmes versus Arsène Lupin

Still Life 2

Alternativa

So Blonde

Dracula: Origin

Simon the Sorcerer 4

Machinarium

Perry Rhodan

The Whispered World

The Path

Ankh 3: Battle of the Gods

Resonance

Penumbra: Black Plague

Love

Treasure Island

Art of Murder: FBI Confidential

OH CRAP THIS DAMN LIST IS TOO LONG

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25632718 just go there.

As for FPS ... .. just lol. Go with your rehashes please. We get better graphics as well as a cheaper and longer lasting game. I'm sorry you have ADD. Mods add length to a game. Also we get MORE FPS as well as MORE ORIGINAL FPS.

RPGS you are gonna give me an entire list of JRPGS that I don't care about. WRPGS we are almost equal.. infact I think PC has more. BTW nice putting 3against 1, how about you break it up a little then compare :) even with 3aagainst one the PC is holding it's own.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) Ballroompirate

I also used to go over to my friends house who owns a 360 to play CS since he has two computers and that was more fun then playing 360.

I totally forgot everyone has 2 PCs, gosh I must've spaced out...

In my house we have 5 computers.

My bad forgot the other computer I built. I have 6 computers at my house and they are set up there not just sitting around.

Art of Murder is the only decent looking game I would buy out of that list :|Ballroompirate

and out of yours MGS is the only one I would buy.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]Art of Murder is the only decent looking game I would buy out of that list :|jangojay

and out of yours MGS is the only one I would buy.

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]Art of Murder is the only decent looking game I would buy out of that list :|wemhim

and out of yours MGS is the only one I would buy.

Opinion is a fictional term, and we don't take kindly to those around here...

To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) thrones

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]Art of Murder is the only decent looking game I would buy out of that list :|Blommen

and out of yours MGS is the only one I would buy.

Opinion is a fictional term, and we don't take kindly to those around here...

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

One good reason why PC gaming is currently on life support and on the verge of dying.

no good games.

jangojay

Imagine a guy with the WII in his sig saying this. OH THE IRONY.

[QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) MotherRussia

Sure split screen and party games are a blast, but PC LANs absolutley dominate them

[QUOTE="MotherRussia"][QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) skrat_01

Sure split screen and party games are a blast, but PC LANs absolutley dominate them

[QUOTE="MotherRussia"][QUOTE="thrones"]To be honest. PC Gaming can't recreate playing with friends in the same room on one tele :) skrat_01

Sure split screen and party games are a blast, but PC LANs absolutley dominate them

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"][QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

In the end of the day PC gamers can keep RTS they all suck except Starcraft and Warcraft 3,MMOS I've played my share and I'm glade I dont play em any more since well for example playing WoW is $180 a year and thats one game...

PC gamers need to realize that two genres cant keep PC alive and healthy with FPS making their way to consoles and sometimes even selling better than their PC counter parts or they stay about the same (sales wise).RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).A/A games especially so far in 08 have made their debut back to consoles with a long MIA of A/A in 07, NMH and DMC4 within a month of each other release wise is pure Ecstasy for A/A fans.

Now I'm not trying to say PC gaming is dead all I'm saying is its not improving or losing.

jangojay

sure keep the jrpg's and vll keep the wrpg's

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RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).

Ballroompirate

you lie.

Gray Matter

Vampyre Story

*etc*

OH CRAP THIS DAMN LIST IS TOO LONG

jangojay

You totally forgot Sam and Max: Season 2!:o

...but you've got a point - adventure games are another genre that will always be dominant on the PC (although I will admit that the DS has a great adventure game line-up).

Eight reasons why Im fed up of reading threads like this, not just about PC gaming "dying" but price threads, graphics comparisons, etc.:

1. Most people (apart from what seems to mostly be Lemmings and Cows) have never thought PC gaming was dying in the first place.

2. Hermits, Cows and Lemmings make stupid graphics comparisons, then Cows and Lemmings claim they don't care that the PC graphics are actually better or make up excuses like its too expensive to justify better graphics. Yet they expect sheep to understand when they argue that that its worth paying a fortune for good graphics and better AI rather than for something a bit more unique.

3. PC gamers ultimately end up making stupid statements like "PC's are hardcore, consoles are for casuals", Which is not true. Although to be fair, I only ever see this once or twice a thread, and the threads stretch several pages.

4. Console gamers then exaggerate (to a certain degree anyway) the price of PC's

5. PC gamer ultimately defends this by labelling anyone who is not a hermit as stupid because they don't have the time/money/technical savvy to build their own rig with "cheap" components that they will soon have to replace anyway

6. Because ultimately the argument ends up between the PC and 360/PS3, totally omitting the Wii. Until it's mentioned (it is totally different to the 360 and PS3 after all), the PC gamers pwn the console gamers completely. Probably because Cows and Lemmings argue about power and price all the time. This just demonstrates my next point...

7. Consoles and PC's were made for a different approach to games. No, consoles being more accessible does not make them less hardcore. Accessability is a good thing. But likewise its funny to see Cows and Lemmings obsess over the Wii's more casual-friendly approach and how its a "bad thing" yet be so utterly hypocritical about the fact that their consoles are made more casual friendly than PC's.

8. And, totally hypocritically given what they say about sheep and sales (doesnt matter if its hardware or software because the only reason they dont argue hardware is that most people who can afford it have a PC even if its not for games), some Lemming/Cow brings software sales into, again being proven wrong by PC gamers.

In the end of the day PC gamers can keep RTS they all suck except Starcraft and Warcraft 3,MMOS I've played my share and I'm glade I dont play em any more since well for example playing WoW is $180 a year and thats one game...

You're entitled to your opinion. However, to complain that WOW costs $180/year is a bit ridiculous. You aren't forced to play it and I can definitely think of better games.

PC gamers need to realize that two genres cant keep PC alive and healthy with FPS making their way to consoles and sometimes even selling better than their PC counter parts or they stay about the same (sales wise).RPGs are slowly making their way to PC (The witcher) but its not moving fast enough to make a impact like it did for consoles (my guess playing 5 hours+ on a KB can suck).A/A games especially so far in 08 have made their debut back to consoles with a long MIA of A/A in 07, NMH and DMC4 within a month of each other release wise is pure Ecstasy for A/A fans.

Now I'm not trying to say PC gaming is dead all I'm saying is its not improving or losing.Ballroompirate

PC has more then two genres bub. FPS, RTS, 4x Strategy, Adventure, RPGs, Roguelikes, MMORPG, ect. But, I don't care about that part of your argument because honestly I don't think it's worth my time to detail how wrong you're there. Oh wait I just did...

Besides that I'm more worrried about your lack of PC RPG knowledge. You seem to think that RPGs are more popular on consoles then PC and that is FALSE!. Ultima IV, Ultima Online, Everquest II, WOW, Guild Wars, Daggerfall, Diablo, Diablo 2, Neverwinter Nights, Eye of the Beholder, Eye of the Beholder II, Pool of Radiance, The Witcher, MUDs, Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate II, Planescape: Torment(Considered one of the greatest games of all time), Arcanum, Fallout, Fallout II.

The PC effectually dominated the RPG market back in the 80s and early and mid 90s. And, RPGs on PC are still very popular today with the likes of WOW and the MMO elites. MUDs too. The thing is these kind of RPGs don't usually go to the console crowd. Because they're what is known as CRPGs. JRPGs pretty much dominate the console. The difference? Wel, CPRGs, focus heavily on character development, choices and consequences, and story. In essence CPRGs work as a sim. JRPGs focus heavily on storyline. They also tend to differ in style. CRPGs are more western oriented and JRPGs are more eastern oriented.

You can't really say the console reigns more heavily in the RPG market when it's main RPG is a JRPG. It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. Too many differences and ultimately it comes down to preference. However, your argument has more to do with false objectivity.