A closer look into the console sales between the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3.

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

alright, no one start posting till i get my popcorn, give me 5 minutes

I think we all know the ps3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide for every year but last year. You really didn't have to make this into a huge text wall. My eyes are literally bleeding.

Who said the 360 is crushing the PS3 in sales? The 360 has more sold/shipped units than the PS3. That's pretty much all we know until we get updated reports.

Meh, another wall of text by arkephonicMercenaryMafia

oh Ark... every time you post, System wars' collective IQ drops a point or tworilpas

I'll just say the same thing I said on Ark's last thread: [QUOTE="rilpas"]oh Ark... every time you post, System wars' collective IQ drops a point or tworilpas

It's a killer. :cool:

I'd say Microsoft won fair and square, but the degree they won by is so negligible; it's ridiculous the amount of horn tooting that goes on. There is virtually no difference between 65 million and 63 million. To anyone that isn't so invested in the system warz, those sales are virtually the same.

Last person to talk about sales? How many threads now where you spin the PS3 into your favor? At least 4-5 that I can remember. Every single person here knows the sales, but bottom line at the end of the day is #1 is now #3. They chose stupid hardware, if they didn't they could of launched a year earlier with better prices and maybe not lose a billion in their gaming division.

Last person to talk about sales? How many threads now where you spin the PS3 into your favor? At least 4-5 that I can remember. Every single person here knows the sales, but bottom line at the end of the day is #1 is now #3. They chose stupid hardware, if they didn't they could of launched a year earlier with better prices and maybe not lose a billion in their gaming division.

immortality20

2005: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2006: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2007: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2008: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2009 "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2010: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2011: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2012: :cry: "Year head start & teh kinnect is cheating! Wheres my wahbulance?"blue_hazy_basic

Maybe next-gen Cows!

A much closer look shows that the 360 has sold more than the PS3.

Stop making threads. They are devoid of any actual facts or basic human intelligence.

Get ready, for lots of jelly and butthurt lems claiming sales matter. Still waiting to see those dividend check stubs, lems. :cool: MS didn't squash anything, except new ips this gen.ispeakfact

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Last person to talk about sales? How many threads now where you spin the PS3 into your favor? At least 4-5 that I can remember. Every single person here knows the sales, but bottom line at the end of the day is #1 is now #3. They chose stupid hardware, if they didn't they could of launched a year earlier with better prices and maybe not lose a billion in their gaming division.

blue_hazy_basic

Here's my "real" pictures of my collection! Oh but all hail the PS3, here's an essay why!

Get ready, for lots of jelly and butthurt lems claiming sales matter. Still waiting to see those dividend check stubs, lems. :cool: MS didn't squash anything, except new ips this gen.ispeakfact

:cool:

you=

A few things to consider.

The PlayStation brand is huge, Xbox was puny in comparison, to be doing that well against their main rivals is good.

PS3 does well in 3 regions, 360 is pretty much non-existent in Japan and does well in 2 regions.

Am I witnessing damage control?

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Get ready, for lots of jelly and butthurt lems claiming sales matter. Still waiting to see those dividend check stubs, lems. :cool: MS didn't squash anything, except new ips this gen.MercenaryMafia

You can't stop SDC, son.

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Get ready, for lots of jelly and butthurt lems claiming sales matter. Still waiting to see those dividend check stubs, lems. :cool: MS didn't squash anything, except new ips this gen.ispeakfact

You can't stop SDC, son.

I can't wait till the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360. Imagine 70 million PS3 sales against 68 million Xbox 360 sales. The world will go nuts! Gamers will start dropping the Xbox 360, developers will start making PS3 games exclusive to the better selling console, publishers will start to ignore the crappy Xbox 360. Oh WAIT!! that won't HAPPEN!! SO WHO CARES!!ShadowDeathX

That won't happen because PS3 software sales suck, despite it being so "close" in hardware sales to the 360.

Jesus you're still make threads, and they're still miles long.

360 = better selling PS3 = faster selling Bottom line is that Sony had a huge advantage going into this gen based on the success of the PS2. The fact that they are still far behind after 6 years shows what a failure the PS3 is.Miketheman83

Because the Xbox 360 is so bad that it's incomprehensible how a $600 dollar Sony product couldn't wipe the floor with it, right?

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]360 = better selling PS3 = faster selling Bottom line is that Sony had a huge advantage going into this gen based on the success of the PS2. The fact that they are still far behind after 6 years shows what a failure the PS3 is.arkephonic

Because the Xbox 360 is so bad that it's incomprehensible how a $600 dollar Sony product couldn't wipe the floor with it, right?

so, being in last place is wiping the floor now? ...'kay

Microsoft has already accomplished what they set out to do, and then some. All they wanted to do was steal away a portion of the gaming industry from the stranglehold that the PS2 held last gen. They never dreamed of being this close in sales to the PS3 when this gen started. Sony got arrogant and really dropped the ball. Microsoft has stolen away a HUGE portion of the gaming industry from Sony. Microsoft is now not just playing catch-up with Sony, they are an equal.

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.Quick facts:The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]360 = better selling PS3 = faster selling Bottom line is that Sony had a huge advantage going into this gen based on the success of the PS2. The fact that they are still far behind after 6 years shows what a failure the PS3 is.rilpas

Because the Xbox 360 is so bad that it's incomprehensible how a $600 dollar Sony product couldn't wipe the floor with it, right?

so, being in last place is wiping the floor now? ...'kay

You talk about low IQ, and then say something like this. What I was asking was hypothetical in response to how he called the PS3 a failure, and being far behind the 360 in sales, neither of which are true. The fact that I'm even having to explain this to you really speaks volumes.

lol

It's a killer. :cool:

ispeakfact

You started the Slim Shady's takeover of System Wars

Last place.:lol: Sony lost to a glorified eye toy. Get used to it.

Its not but lems will take whatever victory they can get, since all there stuck with a horrible star wars game and a new sesame street title.

Am I witnessing damage control?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]I can't wait till the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360. Imagine 70 million PS3 sales against 68 million Xbox 360 sales. The world will go nuts! Gamers will start dropping the Xbox 360, developers will start making PS3 games exclusive to the better selling console, publishers will start to ignore the crappy Xbox 360. Oh WAIT!! that won't HAPPEN!! SO WHO CARES!!RR360DD

That won't happen because PS3 software sales suck, despite it being so "close" in hardware sales to the 360.

Yet big name titles like Batman Arkham City and Mortal Kombat all sold better on the PS3 :lol:

The only way the 360 version sells better is if its a horrid port or something with lots of guns for all the bro gamers to play.

Who cares about sales. As long as Sony is giving me games that are worthy to play, then I'm good. M$ on the other hand has fallen down in terms of producing "quality" games.

Who cares about sales. As long as Sony is giving me games that are worthy to play, then I'm good. M$ on the other hand has fallen down in terms of producing "quality" games.

e_stone001

*sigh* Another thread where you put alot of effort into some extremely far fetched rationalization that at the end of the day wont change the FACT that PS3 is last place, and there is NOTHING you can say or do about it, but argue with other internet nerds. Seriously, the effort you put into all these threads is rediculous dude. Do you really expect anyone here to read all of that?

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games

arkephonic

Ok, Il bite this first sentence. This is a LIE. You dont care about sales because you cannot use it as ammo to fuel your agenda. That is the ONLY reason you are crying about them. If PS3 wasnt the last place irrelevant console that it is, you would be using PS3 sales as ammo, just like cows did with the PS2. COWS invented the sales arguement ;)

You see, when cows dont get their way, or they arent on a level playing field, they cry for the criteria to be changed to suit themselves. For instance, XBLA has WAY more games than PSN, so what do cows do? They cry for XBLA games to not count on lists. Why? Because they cannot compete, because their own service pales in comparison. ;)

Cows also bragged about exclusives last gen, but when this gen came around and your $600 console didnt have a single killer app for nearly its first 2 years? They became REAL anal about the criteria. 360 has more games than PS3 on metacritic, so what do you do? You make a thread about an irrelevant statistic: "averages".

Cows bragged ALL of last generation about PS2's sales, and it was guarranteed PS3 would dominate this gen. COWS invented sales, NOBODY else. You dont like it, blame cows. Stop victimizing cows. If you ever implied that PS3 would be last place last gen you would have been laughed out of system wars. But since Cows can no longer brag about sales......."whah whah....salez dont mattar!!".

Who cares about sales. As long as Sony is giving me games that are worthy to play, then I'm good. M$ on the other hand has fallen down in terms of producing "quality" games.

e_stone001

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

arkephonic

what a valid point

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Because the Xbox 360 is so bad that it's incomprehensible how a $600 dollar Sony product couldn't wipe the floor with it, right?

arkephonic

so, being in last place is wiping the floor now? ...'kay

You talk about low IQ, and then say something like this. What I was asking was hypothetical in response to how he called the PS3 a failure, and being far behind the 360 in sales, neither of which are true. The fact that I'm even having to explain this to you really speaks volumes.

in the end, it doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is still in last place, therefore, "mopping the floor" does not apply here

and the fact that I have to explain this really speaks volume of your IQ