A closer look into the console sales between the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3.

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#201 rilpas
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

got a link? :P

StrongDeadlift

Are you gonna rub one out to it?

Sorry brah, im on no fap april.

Arkephonic wants to see me fap... I'm scared

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#202 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]wait, who's that kid?Last-Resort
I was here for that, that's the Arbitor guy.

got a link for that thread?
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#203 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]wait, who's that kid?rilpas

A former user here who created a topic asking which music he should use for his PS3 montage. He then proceeded to be torn apart by users. It was quite fun to watch.

got a link? :P

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

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#204 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]

A former user here who created a topic asking which music he should use for his PS3 montage. He then proceeded to be torn apart by users. It was quite fun to watch.

StrongDeadlift

got a link? :P

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

thank you :P

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#205 arkephonic
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riplas, you strike me as one homely lookin' mother ****er, lol. Nerds like you that take it overboard with that geeky looking icon and signature are usually pretty hideous looking human beings.

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#206 rilpas
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Nerds like you that take it overboard with that geeky looking icon and signature are usually pretty hideous looking human beings.

arkephonic

so your fetish is watching ugly nerds masturbate?

you've got issues man

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#207 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Nerds like you that take it overboard with that geeky looking icon and signature are usually pretty hideous looking human beings.

rilpas

so your fetish is watching ugly nerds masturbate?

you've got issues man

Lol, where on earth would you get that idea? Are you making up things in your head again? You're a sick ****, brah.

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#208 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Nerds like you that take it overboard with that geeky looking icon and signature are usually pretty hideous looking human beings.

arkephonic

so your fetish is watching ugly nerds masturbate?

you've got issues man

Lol, where on earth would you get that idea? Are you making up things in your head again? You're a sick ****, brah.

first you ask me if I'm going to fap

then you ask me if I'm an unatractive person

don't deny it Ark, you're one sick mo-fo

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#209 rilpas
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here arkephonic:

just so you feel a little less lonely

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#210 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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#211 rilpas
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Stevo_the_gamer

I just found this on that thread :P

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#212 Xaero_Gravity
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here arkephonic:

just so you feel a little less lonely

rilpas

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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]

A former user here who created a topic asking which music he should use for his PS3 montage. He then proceeded to be torn apart by users. It was quite fun to watch.

StrongDeadlift

got a link? :P

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

That was a good laugh, cows are fuking idiots.

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#214 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

here arkephonic:

just so you feel a little less lonely

Xaero_Gravity

:lol:

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

got a link? :P

RR360DD

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

That was a good laugh, cows are fuking idiots.

He made his profile private and hasnt posted here since that thread :lol:
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#216 Xaero_Gravity
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

StrongDeadlift

That was a good laugh, cows are fuking idiots.

He made his profile private and hasnt posted here since that thread :lol:

It's ok. As long as we have tools like arkephonic around, threads like that will always have a chance of happening.

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

That was a good laugh, cows are fuking idiots.

Xaero_Gravity

He made his profile private and hasnt posted here since that thread :lol:

It's ok. As long as we have tools like arkephonic around, threads like that will always have a chance of happening.

this almost became one :P

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#218 clone01
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28973454/what-music-to-use-for-ps3-exclusive-montage?page=0

StrongDeadlift

That was a good laugh, cows are fuking idiots.

He made his profile private and hasnt posted here since that thread :lol:

Yeah, he has. He's PinnacleGamingP. I'm pretty sure he's duelshockfore (or something like that), too.
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#219 Last-Resort
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Arke you will need much practice before you can get LoosingENDS pages in threads. (Yes I saw that thread.) But you can easily build of this is you start a random argument.
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ITT: A bunch of lemmings who think total sales are how products are measured against each other.


Hint: They aren't. MS saw that the ps3 has outsold them every since it launched, couldn't figure out why, and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

got a link? :P

rilpas

Are you gonna rub one out to it?

What kind of a question is that?What's worse: why do you care? don't tell me you're one of those weirdos who likes to watch :s

he mad.
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and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Pug-Nasty

The Xbox 360 is outselling Sony's PS3 even when Microsoft is not even trying and Sony is trying very hard? Dang.

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#223 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Stevo_the_gamer

The Xbox 360 is outselling Sony's PS3 even when Microsoft is not even trying and Sony is trying very hard? Dang.

Is it now? World wide the 360 is outselling the ps3? I suppose there's a first time for everything.

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More families bought a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player than soccer moms bought a 360 for Kinect
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#225 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Is it now? World wide the 360 is outselling the ps3? I suppose there's a first time for everything.

Pug-Nasty

Yep, the gap widened last year.

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#226 arkephonic
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More families bought a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player than soccer moms bought a 360 for KinectSpartan070

I would ask you for a link, but I know a link for that doesn't exist. You're just talkin' out of your ass.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Pug-Nasty

The Xbox 360 is outselling Sony's PS3 even when Microsoft is not even trying and Sony is trying very hard? Dang.

Is it now? World wide the 360 is outselling the ps3? I suppose there's a first time for everything.

Xbox 360 has been outselling PS3 worldwide for at least a year and maybe close to two.
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#228 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

  • The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.
  • The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.
  • The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.
  • The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.
  • The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.
  • The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.
  • The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.
  • The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

Xplode_games

In america (the largest market) the 360 is crushing the PS3. In Japan the PS3 is crushing the 360. In Europe as a whole the PS3 is ahead of 360. Worldwide 360 is ahead.

The PS3 went after soccer moms too with the Move. Just because they fell on their face doesn't mean the intention wasn't there.

So America is suddenly the center of the world is it? Go figure.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]More families bought a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player than soccer moms bought a 360 for Kinectarkephonic

I would ask you for a link, but I know a link for that doesn't exist. You're just talkin' out of your ass.

You should know, you set the standard for ass talking.
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I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

  • The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.
  • The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.
  • The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.
  • The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.
  • The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.
  • The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.
  • The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.
  • The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

arkephonic

It's called Japan. Remove Japan from the equation and the add it all up. XBox 360 will never sell as well as the PS3 in Japan, but in Europe and US sales are pretty back equal through those months. Japan is pretty much Sony edge. That's really the only reason they are gaining any ground as well.

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[QUOTE="Xplode_games"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

  • The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.
  • The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.
  • The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.
  • The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.
  • The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.
  • The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.
  • The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.
  • The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

ShadowsDemon

In america (the largest market) the 360 is crushing the PS3. In Japan the PS3 is crushing the 360. In Europe as a whole the PS3 is ahead of 360. Worldwide 360 is ahead.

The PS3 went after soccer moms too with the Move. Just because they fell on their face doesn't mean the intention wasn't there.

So America is suddenly the center of the world is it? Go figure.

Where did he even come close to saying that? Let me guess, you're illiterate?

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#232 arkephonic
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Did someone *gasp* pee in Frostbite's cheerios?

Or is Frostbite...

*gasp*

jelly?

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Did someone *gasp* pee in Frostbite's cheerios?

Or is Frostbite...

*gasp*

jelly?

arkephonic

You're right I am jelly! I'm really jelly of how you talk out your ass, I wish I knew how. :lol:

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#234 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

[QUOTE="Xplode_games"]

In america (the largest market) the 360 is crushing the PS3. In Japan the PS3 is crushing the 360. In Europe as a whole the PS3 is ahead of 360. Worldwide 360 is ahead.

The PS3 went after soccer moms too with the Move. Just because they fell on their face doesn't mean the intention wasn't there.

So America is suddenly the center of the world is it? Go figure.

Where did he even come close to saying that? Let me guess, you're illiterate?

You got me. I'm completely and 100% illiterate. I can't read a single thing. My great weakness say been exposed.
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#235 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The Xbox 360 is outselling Sony's PS3 even when Microsoft is not even trying and Sony is trying very hard? Dang.

KC_Hokie

Is it now? World wide the 360 is outselling the ps3? I suppose there's a first time for everything.

Xbox 360 has been outselling PS3 worldwide for at least a year and maybe close to two.

lol in what world ???? since 2007 ps3 have been outselling xbox ww the gap is closing a 7 year old console with 65m a 6 year old console with 63m which one is selling faster ???
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which one is selling faster ???shadiezz2012
Is selling, or has sold? There is a large difference between the two.

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#237 Riverwolf007
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cows before kinect: "whaa! :cry: shooterbox only sells cuz of you stupid bro gamers! whaa!"

cows after kinect: "whaa! :cry: casualbox only sells cuz of toddlers and soccer moms! whaa!

:lol:

this has just been a gen full of hilarity, thanks sw.

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#238 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]which one is selling faster ???Stevo_the_gamer

Is selling, or has sold? There is a large difference between the two.

what's your point ??? ps3 came a year later than xbox yet both are almost neck and neck in hardware sales what does that tell you ???
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#239 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]More families bought a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player than soccer moms bought a 360 for Kinectarkephonic

I would ask you for a link, but I know a link for that doesn't exist. You're just talkin' out of your ass.

I'm going off a hunch. I would seriously doubt that I'm wrong here.
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#240 _Cadbury_
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Sales are all lems have left, I'm not surprised they find it hard to accept that the ps3 actually sells at a faster rate than the 360.
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#241 dudegamer23
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Awesome and imformative thread:) Thank-you for actually using logic, and facts, unlike delusional xbots, I expect a whole lot of "didn't read comments too.
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#242 Steppy_76
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ITT: A bunch of lemmings who think total sales are how products are measured against each other.


Hint: They aren't. MS saw that the ps3 has outsold them every since it launched, couldn't figure out why, and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Pug-Nasty

Umm, EVERYONE uses installed base to compare products competing against each other. Cows are the only ones who don't. System wars doesn't equal the real world.

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#243 arkephonic
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Awesome and imformative thread:) Thank-you for actually using logic, and facts, unlike delusional xbots, I expect a whole lot of "didn't read comments too.dudegamer23

Logic and facts don't mix well with Lemmings, they usually cause them to make a scene and embarrass themselves :P

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#244 Last-Resort
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[QUOTE="dudegamer23"]Awesome and imformative thread:) Thank-you for actually using logic, and facts, unlike delusional xbots, I expect a whole lot of "didn't read comments too.arkephonic

Logic and facts don't mix well with Lemmings, they usually cause them to make a scene and embarrass themselves :P

Only 13 pages? Come on you can do better than that. You're just mad the move failed is all. Such garbage that black glow in the dark vibrator. (Wiink Wink)
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#245 Snugenz
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I think you're blowing brand loyalty way out of proportion.

arkephonic

With people like you in the world, brand loyalty cannot be blown out of proportion.

You and your ilk are exactly the type of people who would buy a system on name alone. Then make forum threads about how its better than everything else for months on end.

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#246 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

ITT: A bunch of lemmings who think total sales are how products are measured against each other.


Hint: They aren't. MS saw that the ps3 has outsold them every since it launched, couldn't figure out why, and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Steppy_76

Umm, EVERYONE uses installed base to compare products competing against each other. Cows are the only ones who don't. System wars doesn't equal the real world.

Everyone uses basic trend analysis to determine the popularity of products. The fact remains that the only year the 360 was the most popular of the current gen consoles was the year when it was the only one out.
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#247 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I think you're blowing brand loyalty way out of proportion.

Snugenz

With people like you in the world, brand loyalty cannot be blown out of proportion.

You and your ilk are exactly the type of people who would buy a system on name alone. Then make forum threads about how its better than everything else for months on end.

This must be some kind of mistake, you have to be confusing me with someone else.

You see, I'm a Manticore, I have all the systems. Not only that, I'm 100% unbiased.

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#248 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

ITT: A bunch of lemmings who think total sales are how products are measured against each other.


Hint: They aren't. MS saw that the ps3 has outsold them every since it launched, couldn't figure out why, and stopped trying to compete with Sony which is why they stopped making games.

Pug-Nasty

Umm, EVERYONE uses installed base to compare products competing against each other. Cows are the only ones who don't. System wars doesn't equal the real world.

Everyone uses basic trend analysis to determine the popularity of products. The fact remains that the only year the 360 was the most popular of the current gen consoles was the year when it was the only one out.

I agree. People don't compare the total sales of the iPad 3 to the iPad 2, because they have been out for different periods of time. What people look at are sales trends to determine the popularity of the products. It's literally useless to use total sales as the determining factor of popularity when comparing 2 devices that released in different years.

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#249 FeedOnATreeFrog
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TC is right.

That being said, if you want to use 'sales' as a measure of quality, then you're basically also saying that the 360 has better games, as their games sell more.

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#250 Blaz3_fox
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Wii is crushing them both. Wii wins this gen, but we all knew that after it's first year.