A closer look into the console sales between the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Sorry I'll use little words. You said: "Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year". It did in fact. Indeed it has had mutiple (more than one)forms of different platforms out simultaneously (at the same time) this generation, and yet has consistently lost money in most quarters and has a huge deficit (loss) for the generation as a whole.

blue_hazy_basic

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

Oh yeah, forgive me, I forgot this thread was about comparing PS2 sales to Xbox 360 sales.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

arkephonic

Oh yeah, forgive me, I forgot this thread was about comparing PS2 sales to Xbox 360 sales.

I hope to one day meet your parents, hug them and tell them "I'm sorry"

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

Oh yeah, forgive me, I forgot this thread was about comparing PS2 sales to Xbox 360 sales.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Aren't they part of the gaming arm of Sony? :? Are you trolling us by pretending to be this stupid?blue_hazy_basic

Oh yeah, forgive me, I forgot this thread was about comparing PS2 sales to Xbox 360 sales.

I hope to one day meet your parents, hug them and tell them "I'm sorry"

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

A price drop of $100 dollars isn't substantial? Lol, no one is exactly accusing Stevo of being the most intelligent guy on SW...

arkephonic

Bad analogies - Lack of logic/common sense - Contradictions - Failure - Verbal insults

That about sum it up for you Lemmings? Lulz.

Bad analogies - Lack of logic/common sense - Contradictions - Failure - Verbal insults

That about sum it up for you Lemmings? Lulz.

arkephonic

yep, that about sums up your posts

though you did forget "circular arguments"

Xbox had an 8 million console lead that Sony reduced to 2 millions. No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate than the Xbox console even with the success of Kinect.

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

Gue1

That doesn't reflect current selling rates. Has sold ratio =/= is selling. The gap has widened within the previous year without any price drops, mind you.

Xbox had an 8 million console lead that Sony reduced to 2 millions. No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate than the Xbox console even with the success of Kinect.

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

Gue1

Stop using logic, Lemmings hate that.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Xbox had an 8 million console lead that Sony reduced to 2 millions. No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate than the Xbox console even with the success of Kinect.

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

arkephonic

Stop using logic, Lemmings hate that.

ah, poor Ark,, the strain of an argument too much for him and has now resorted to insults

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

rilpas

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

indeed, the wii sold better because it was the more popular system, followed by the 360 and lastly the PS3

should the PS3's total sales surpass the 360 then I'll change the order, until then you sound like someone in need of a waaambulance

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Xbox had an 8 million console lead that Sony reduced to 2 millions. No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate than the Xbox console even with the success of Kinect.

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

arkephonic

Stop using logic, Lemmings hate that.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Xbox had an 8 million console lead that Sony reduced to 2 millions. No matter how you want to see it or spin it the PS3 is selling better and at a faster rate than the Xbox console even with the success of Kinect.

Is this so hard to understand or are some people really that dumb? :o

Steppy_76

Stop using logic, Lemmings hate that.

A lot of these arguments, yours included, focus on how the Xbox 360 is such a bad console, that it's incomprehensible how the PS3 hasn't overtaken the sales lead, and because it hasn't, the PS3 is a failure.

The 360 may be my least favorite current gen console that I own, but I think it's far from a bad console...

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

All I know is just a few short years, Sony Went from this:

to this:

gensigns

Lol, is that Kaz Hirai in that first pic? He looks kinda chubby..

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

fadersdream

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="gensigns"]

All I know is just a few short years, Sony Went from this:

to this:

arkephonic

Lol, is that Kaz Hirai in that first pic? He looks kinda chubby..

Clearly effected by Sony's money problems, he can't even afford to feed himself.

[QUOTE="gensigns"]

All I know is just a few short years, Sony Went from this:

to this:

arkephonic

Lol, is that Kaz Hirai in that first pic? He looks kinda chubby..

with all the money he's lost he had to cut down on food costs

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

here is your answer ^

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

Yeah, Lemmings, Kaz Hirai can't feed himself anymore because of Sony's financial troubles.

You guys are kind of pieces of ****, lol. No, you are pieces of ****.

Yeah, Lemmings, Kaz Hirai can't feed himself anymore because of Sony's financial troubles.

You guys are kind of pieces of ****, lol. No, you are pieces of ****.

arkephonic

All I know is just a few short years, Sony Went from this:

to this:

gensigns

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] "lost the argument"? I'm barely a part of this thread and I've seen you get pretty clearly ripped apart. You're not helping the PS3 with this conversation. At some point facts are facts, and I understand disqualifying everyones point and using technicalities to skew the information but We've all seen it enough to no longer be impressed by it. It's over, move on to next gen, you're not going to win this one, But Sony did do well enough to still be around. That in itself is a victory of some Sort.Stevo_the_gamer

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys gave up too soon, resorting to verbal insults because you lost the argument.

Tee hee hee.

arkephonic

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Stop using logic, Lemmings hate that.

arkephonic

A lot of these arguments, yours included, focus on how the Xbox 360 is such a bad console, that it's incomprehensible how the PS3 hasn't overtaken the sales lead, and because it hasn't, the PS3 is a failure.

The 360 may be my least favorite current gen console that I own, but I think it's far from a bad console...

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] "lost the argument"? I'm barely a part of this thread and I've seen you get pretty clearly ripped apart. You're not helping the PS3 with this conversation. At some point facts are facts, and I understand disqualifying everyones point and using technicalities to skew the information but We've all seen it enough to no longer be impressed by it. It's over, move on to next gen, you're not going to win this one, But Sony did do well enough to still be around. That in itself is a victory of some Sort.-ArchAngeL-777-

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

really? because it seems to me that sony made a blunder by taking so long to launch the PS3 and that now, somehow, that's Microsoft's fault

"lost the argument"? I'm barely a part of this thread and I've seen you get pretty clearly ripped apart. You're not helping the PS3 with this conversation. At some point facts are facts, and I understand disqualifying everyones point and using technicalities to skew the information but We've all seen it enough to no longer be impressed by it. It's over, move on to next gen, you're not going to win this one, But Sony did do well enough to still be around. That in itself is a victory of some Sort.fadersdream

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

gensigns

Wait...is thispicture real? Was Sony's arrogance really that blatant and public?

I'm f*cking glad this gen had messed them up. Maybe if/when they sort themselves out they will be more f*cking humble next time.

How bad is Sony doing?

Let me put it into conext for you:

Lemmings are trying their hardest to be NICE to you. That's how bad Sony is doing financially right now.

They are losing so much money that their system wars enemy is showing pity.

They just pretend it doesn't exist and both consoles launched in Nov 2006 lol.-ArchAngeL-777-

Yeah, Lemmings, Kaz Hirai can't feed himself anymore because of Sony's financial troubles.

You guys are kind of pieces of ****, lol. No, you are pieces of ****.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] "lost the argument"? I'm barely a part of this thread and I've seen you get pretty clearly ripped apart. You're not helping the PS3 with this conversation. At some point facts are facts, and I understand disqualifying everyones point and using technicalities to skew the information but We've all seen it enough to no longer be impressed by it. It's over, move on to next gen, you're not going to win this one, But Sony did do well enough to still be around. That in itself is a victory of some Sort.-ArchAngeL-777-

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

As an aside, let's not forget the 360 was competing with the mythical dual 1080p, twice as powerful PS3 for that first year, rather than the actual PS3 that we got. Sony has always overstated its machines power in attempts to hold off buyers until they make their late entrance into the market, and it worked twice....sometimes the third time isn't the charm I guess.

Umm, Cows are the ones who always bring up the sales since they've both been on the market to proclaim victory(see TC), while Lems go by total sales. Steppy_76

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Yeah, Lemmings, Kaz Hirai can't feed himself anymore because of Sony's financial troubles.

You guys are kind of pieces of ****, lol. No, you are pieces of ****.

Xaero_Gravity

Yeah, I'm furious.

Nah, but seriously, I don't really care, this is the internet, anything is fair game. If people want to make fun of people for losing jobs, having little amounts of money, make fun of mentally disabled people, mock death, that's fine with me. It's the internet, anything is fair game.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

rilpas

really? because it seems to me that sony made a blunder by taking so long to launch the PS3 and that now, somehow, that's Microsoft's fault

This is just facts, not a blame game. But if you want to blame someone, you have it reversed. Microsoft rushed the HW out to a colossal failure rate. They made the blunder in doing that because it nullified any advantage they gained off launching early. They would have been better off just launching side by side with Wii and PS3.-ArchAngeL-777-

EDIT: I'm referring to the success it's had despite the hardware failure... I think the one year headstart really helped it in the US.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Yeah, Lemmings, Kaz Hirai can't feed himself anymore because of Sony's financial troubles.

You guys are kind of pieces of ****, lol. No, you are pieces of ****.

Xaero_Gravity

Of course he's upset. He's a cow. He loves Kaz dearly.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, ripped apart?

No one has even disputed the original post yet!

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

Steppy_76

As an aside, let's not forget the 360 was competing with the mythical dual 1080p, twice as powerful PS3 for that first year, rather than the actual PS3 that we got. Sony has always overstated its machines power in attempts to hold off buyers until they make their late entrance into the market, and it worked twice....sometimes the third time isn't the charm I guess.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]This is just facts, not a blame game. But if you want to blame someone, you have it reversed. Microsoft rushed the HW out to a colossal failure rate. They made the blunder in doing that because it nullified any advantage they gained off launching early. They would have been better off just launching side by side with Wii and PS3.carljohnson3456

EDIT: I'm referring to the success it's had despite the hardware failure... I think the one year headstart really helped it in the US.

I like to look at it this way.

PS2 - 150 million sales
PS3 - 62 million sales

Xbox - 24 million sales
X360 - 65 million sales

SONY LOL