A closer look into the console sales between the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3.

stop trying to justify last place

all that matters is the latter

Wii first place

Xbox 360 second place

PS3 last place

anything else is just making you look even worse

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games

arkephonic

Hardly...

Time again for mah patented response to threads such as this one....

:P

[QUOTE="e_stone001"]

Who cares about sales. As long as Sony is giving me games that are worthy to play, then I'm good. M$ on the other hand has fallen down in terms of producing "quality" games.

ispeakfact

adn yet there is coming plenty out , and actually quite a few this month.. never understood cows and this astounding logic .. guess you can't beat this logic, even when debunked so many times .. they just dodge it and move on to the next thread to say the thing again and again .. debunked pretty much every time ..:lol:

and arke, ps3 is last no matter how you spin it, and i do like that you said "i dont care about sales etc" yet you make this thread wonders lulz. you get owned pretty much everytime.. ? :roll:

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

arkephonic

In america (the largest market) the 360 is crushing the PS3. In Japan the PS3 is crushing the 360. In Europe as a whole the PS3 is ahead of 360. Worldwide 360 is ahead.

The PS3 went after soccer moms too with the Move. Just because they fell on their face doesn't mean the intention wasn't there.

I'm the last person to care about sales when it comes to consoles and games, but I always see people use the argument saying that the Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3 in console sales. I don't think that sales are in any way, shape or form indicative of how good a game or console is. The increased interest that children and soccer moms have in gaming today has directly impacted the direction the industry is headed, resulting in a more prominent focus on developing games designed for children and soccer moms. This is why I find current sales to be even less indicative of quality or how good a game is, and whether or not it would be a game I would enjoy. Children and soccer moms are beginning to dominate in sheer numbers over traditional "core" gamers, and this is well represented in recent sales charts, where a game like Dance Central can sell more than twice as many copies as Mass Effect 3. Not only is Dance Central on a single platform, but it also requires an add-on peripheral that not everyone has, and yet it still dominates a game like Mass Effect 3 because it appeals to soccer moms and children, the dominant consumers in sheer numbers.

The fact that Microsoft chased the soccer mom / children pot of gold and made it their focus would lead me to believe that the Xbox 360 should be crushing the PS3 in console sales. The Sony PS3 focus is the older audience who prefer playing traditional "core" video games, and they're in the minority, which would lead me to believe that the Sony PS3 would be getting crushed in sales. Yeah, the traditional "core" video games may be my preference, and I may prefer them over motion controlled casual games that target soccer moms and children, but I understand that I am in the minority, and while I appreciate the fact that their focus is making the kinds of games that I like, it isn't where the pot of gold is located.

That said, I just want someone to explain this to me in detail, because I'm just not seeing it.

Quick facts:

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

So how exactly is the Xbox 360 crushing the PS3 in console sales? I mean, with the Kinect and the new found focus on soccer moms and children, you would think the Xbox 360 would be reaching Wii esque sales, but that's not the case at all. Even though Sony should be getting crushed by having a traditional "core" focus, I'm seeing a stronger sales chart on Sony's side compared to Microsoft.

arkephonic

Meh, another wall of text by arkephonicMercenaryMafia

2005: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2006: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2007: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2008: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2009 "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2010: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2011: "Just wait, PS3 will crush the 360" 2012: :cry: "Year head start & teh kinnect is cheating! Wheres my wahbulance?"blue_hazy_basic

BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAH! Pretty sure this just ended this moronic thread. Cows are so butthurt they are dead last and have been spinning it FOR YEARS on these forums. Here is a news flash for the moo-moos. Take a very close look at PS3 sales during the format war. Specifically when Warner Bros declared it's alliance with Blu-ray. I think you will notice some interesting trends.

It is sad the bovine club still cry like children about the year head start but the Wii was released even after the PS3. The Wii was the last system to be released this gen but it is best in sales. So the system that was in 3rd place last gen does not need excuses but Sony fanboys do need excuses. It is sad that the PS3 fanboys are so pathetic they still need to cry about the year thing when the PS3 was released in Dec/2006. I mean seriously cows get over it already your daddy is last and stop making excuses.

Just deal with it the 360 is better then the PS3 in sales, amount of games and amount of AAA,AA, A games.

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

arkephonic

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

rilpas

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

mems_1224

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

You consider that ownage? Especially considering the PS3 was more than $200-$300 dollars more than the Xbox 360? Lulz...

X360 crushed NOONE as far as console sales go. Period You need to think something though. That

1) PS2 had so huge install base that 95% of that base was eager to jump to PS3. That was a HUGE advantage for PS3 vs X360

2) X360 despite that disadvantage, surpassing PS3 total sales even after 5-6 years ( supposedly PS3 will catch up and surpass X360 sales since 2008

3) X360 making way more profits for MS than PS3 for Sony ( sony is on a loss out of PS3 ).

4) Many Ps3 system selling exclusives floped ( in a way ) like GT5.

5) PS3 was doin sooo bad sales wise that previously time-exclusive/exclusive PS games found their way to X360 as multi and many of them with X360 as the leading platform

I wont talk for prices , hardware features cuts , no more BC , internet fiascos ,poor marketing , hard to program with etc etc .. The thing is NOT that X360 did awesome . Is PS3 did so bad that noone could predict before its release and made X360 look like does good.

I'm not gonna lie, I thought there was a point in time where the PS3 was going to die, go the way of the Dreamcast. It had a rough start, didn't have a good library of games for the first year and a half, cost $600 dollars.... Even now, they failed to capture the children / soccer mom audience with the Move, so their focus is now on traditional "core" games, which happen to be my favorite types of games, but that's not where the pot of gold is located.

Basically, the steep price of the PS3 early on and the lack of casual appeal later on would lead me to believe that the PS3 should be getting crushed in sales, but read it for yourself.

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

You consider that ownage? Especially considering the PS3 was more than $200-$300 dollars more than the Xbox 360? Lulz...

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

arkephonic

it doesn't matter, in the end it's the total lifetime sales that matter

you don't see Wii fans complaining "waah waah the xbox 360 was launched first"

What would Wii fans complain about? If anything, the fact that the Wii launched last is a testament to how much the Wii truly dominated this generation. Lets not kid ourselves, the Wii smashed both the 360 and the PS3 this generation despite launching last.

indeed, the wii sold better because it was the more popular system, followed by the 360 and lastly the PS3

should the PS3's total sales surpass the 360 then I'll change the order, until then you sound like someone in need of a waaambulance

X360 crushed NOONE as far as console sales go. Period You need to think something though. That

1) PS2 had so huge install base that 95% of that base was eager to jump to PS3. That was a HUGE advantage for PS3 vs X360

2) X360 despite that disadvantage, surpassing PS3 total sales even after 5-6 years ( supposedly PS3 will catch up and surpass X360 sales since 2008

3) X360 making way more profits for MS than PS3 for Sony ( sony is on a loss out of PS3 ).

4) Many Ps3 system selling exclusives floped ( in a way ) like GT5.

5) PS3 was doin sooo bad sales wise that previously time-exclusive/exclusive PS games found their way to X360 as multi and many of them with X360 as the leading platform

I wont talk for prices , hardware features cuts , no more BC , internet fiascos ,poor marketing , hard to program with etc etc .. The thing is NOT that X360 did awesome . Is PS3 did so bad that noone could predict before its release and made X360 look like does good.

AzatiS

Yeah, I agree, the PS3 had many faults like BC getting taken out, the PSN outage, HORRIBLE marketing, difficult infrastructure for developers to work with early on, all that combined with the $600 price tag, lack of games early on and the missed opportunity on grabbing the children and soccer mom audience with the Move.

I think many PS2 fans didn't go with the PS3 because it was $600 dollars, people still to this day say that that was too high of an asking price.

Despite all of these massive flaws...

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

I'm not gonna lie, I thought there was a point in time where the PS3 was going to die, go the way of the Dreamcast. It had a rough start, didn't have a good library of games for the first year and a half, cost $600 dollars.... Even now, they failed to capture the children / soccer mom audience with the Move, so their focus is now on traditional "core" games, which happen to be my favorite types of games, but that's not where the pot of gold is located.

Basically, the steep price of the PS3 early on and the lack of casual appeal later on would lead me to believe that the PS3 should be getting crushed in sales, but read it for yourself.

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

arkephonic

Playstation 3 sales is pointless when it is not even earning profit for the first 2-3 years.

You have to pay for online on xbox 360 and its free on PS3. Yet there are still more XBOX 360 sales. Just shows how great the XBOX 360 is to people.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] and the 360 owned the ps3 despite the ps3 being a bigger name brand and the 360 being completely handicapped by not selling in japanmems_1224

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

You consider that ownage? Especially considering the PS3 was more than $200-$300 dollars more than the Xbox 360? Lulz...

Which advantage are you talking about? The $600 dollar price tag or the lack of games early on?

I think you're blowing brand loyalty way out of proportion. The success of the Wii this generation does not guarantee Wii U success, and Nintendo has the strongest brand name out of all 3 companies. People aren't so blindly brand loyal that they'll turn a blind eye to a $600 dollar price tag for a console that has no games, and just buy it for the simple fact that it's a, *gasp*, Playstation console.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

You consider that ownage? Especially considering the PS3 was more than $200-$300 dollars more than the Xbox 360? Lulz...

Which advantage are you talking about? The $600 dollar price tag or the lack of games early on?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ps3 had a big advantage coming into this gen and still ended up last. yea that sounds like ownage mems_1224

Which advantage are you talking about? The $600 dollar price tag or the lack of games early on?

"I think you're blowing brand loyalty way out of proportion. The success of the Wii this generation does not guarantee Wii U success, and Nintendo has the strongest brand name out of all 3 companies. People aren't so blindly brand loyal that they'll turn a blind eye to a $600 dollar price tag for a console that has no games, and just buy it for the simple fact that it's a, *gasp*, Playstation console."

Plus, the masses don't care about online. Wii has the worst online infrastructure and was the most successful. Have you ever seen forum polls asking whether people prefer online or single player games? The results are always overwhelming in favor of single player, not many people like online games.

Nobody cares. They both have been breaking even in the past two years.

It is sad the bovine club still cry like children about the year head start but the Wii was released even after the PS3. The Wii was the last system to be released this gen but it is best in sales. So the system that was in 3rd place last gen does not need excuses but Sony fanboys do need excuses. It is sad that the PS3 fanboys are so pathetic they still need to cry about the year thing when the PS3 was released in Dec/2006. I mean seriously cows get over it already your daddy is last and stop making excuses.

Just deal with it the 360 is better then the PS3 in sales, amount of games and amount of AAA,AA, A games.

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Which advantage are you talking about? The $600 dollar price tag or the lack of games early on?

"I think you're blowing brand loyalty way out of proportion. The success of the Wii this generation does not guarantee Wii U success, and Nintendo has the strongest brand name out of all 3 companies. People aren't so blindly brand loyal that they'll turn a blind eye to a $600 dollar price tag for a console that has no games, and just buy it for the simple fact that it's a, *gasp*, Playstation console."

Plus, the masses don't care about online. Wii has the worst online infrastructure and was the most successful. Have you ever seen forum polls asking whether people prefer online or single player games? The results are always overwhelming in favor of single player, not many people like online games.

I see a lot of responses saying deal with it, the 360 is in 2nd place, but that's not what I'm arguing. I know that the 360 is in 2nd place in total sales, but as the stats I presented show, the PS3 is selling more at a faster rate. How was the PS3 supposed to compete in 2005 and the first 10 months of 2006 when it wasn't even available?

If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 8 million in its first year. There's currently a 2 million gap between PS3 and 360 total sales. The more you know....

arkephonic

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

It is sad the bovine club still cry like children about the year head start but the Wii was released even after the PS3. The Wii was the last system to be released this gen but it is best in sales. So the system that was in 3rd place last gen does not need excuses but Sony fanboys do need excuses. It is sad that the PS3 fanboys are so pathetic they still need to cry about the year thing when the PS3 was released in Dec/2006. I mean seriously cows get over it already your daddy is last and stop making excuses.

Just deal with it the 360 is better then the PS3 in sales, amount of games and amount of AAA,AA, A games.

StrongDeadlift

That football analogy is horrible, because both teams are playing on the field in the first quarter and both have equal opportunity to put points on the board.

Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year, so the equivalent analogy would be a football team playing 11 on 0, putting up points with no defense to go up against.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

It is sad the bovine club still cry like children about the year head start but the Wii was released even after the PS3. The Wii was the last system to be released this gen but it is best in sales. So the system that was in 3rd place last gen does not need excuses but Sony fanboys do need excuses. It is sad that the PS3 fanboys are so pathetic they still need to cry about the year thing when the PS3 was released in Dec/2006. I mean seriously cows get over it already your daddy is last and stop making excuses.

Just deal with it the 360 is better then the PS3 in sales, amount of games and amount of AAA,AA, A games.

That football analogy is horrible, because both teams are playing on the field in the first quarter and both have equal opportunity to put points on the board.

Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year, so the equivalent analogy would be a football team playing 11 on 0, putting up points with no defense to go up against.

Problem: The PS3 has had two relatively substantial pricedrops in the past few years compared to none for the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 has since managed to widen the gap without a price drop, and in its later stages of its life. The Xbox 360 has a lot of life still in it because of where it's currently priced and the amount of room for Microsoft to go with not only the Kinect device, but also the hardware of the Xbox 360 itself. Stevo_the_gamer

How is $400 to $200 dollars not a substantial price drop?

You consider this, "widening the gap"?

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] This. What cows forever fail to understand about the console war is that it doesnt matter if its "fair".....is CAPITALISM. The 360s year head start counts. Its not Microsoft's fault that Sony let them beat them to the market, and that Sony wasnt prepared. At the end of the day, it sold what it sold, it scored what it scored, and there really isnt any rationalizing to be done there. Bottom line is the cold hard numbers are all that matter, and thats all there is to it. Thats like saying a win in football doesnt count because they got a touchdown during the first quarter, and you couldnt. Thats nobodies fault but Sonys. blue_hazy_basic

That football analogy is horrible, because both teams are playing on the field in the first quarter and both have equal opportunity to put points on the board.

Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year, so the equivalent analogy would be a football team playing 11 on 0, putting up points with no defense to go up against.

Well that made sense.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Problem: The PS3 has had two relatively substantial pricedrops in the past few years compared to none for the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 has since managed to widen the gap without a price drop, and in its later stages of its life. The Xbox 360 has a lot of life still in it because of where it's currently priced and the amount of room for Microsoft to go with not only the Kinect device, but also the hardware of the Xbox 360 itself. arkephonic

How is $400 to $200 dollars not a substantial price drop?

You consider this, "widening the gap"?

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

he said "the last few years"

whereas your study is focusing on the entire lifetime of both systems

The 360 has more games then the PS3, Better sales, and more AAA,AA, A games

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

That football analogy is horrible, because both teams are playing on the field in the first quarter and both have equal opportunity to put points on the board.

Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year, so the equivalent analogy would be a football team playing 11 on 0, putting up points with no defense to go up against.

arkephonic

Well that made sense.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Problem: The PS3 has had two relatively substantial pricedrops in the past few years compared to none for the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 has since managed to widen the gap without a price drop, and in its later stages of its life. The Xbox 360 has a lot of life still in it because of where it's currently priced and the amount of room for Microsoft to go with not only the Kinect device, but also the hardware of the Xbox 360 itself. rilpas

How is $400 to $200 dollars not a substantial price drop?

You consider this, "widening the gap"?

• The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.

• The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.

• The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.

• The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.

• The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.

• The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.

• The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.

• The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

he said "the last few years"

whereas your study is focusing on the entire lifetime of both systems

Few = 3 or more.

That price drop took place a few years ago.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No, Sony has had 3-4 teams on the field for most of this gen and still have lost a fortune.blue_hazy_basic

Well that made sense.

/sarcasm

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Problem: The PS3 has had two relatively substantial pricedrops in the past few years compared to none for the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 has since managed to widen the gap without a price drop, and in its later stages of its life. The Xbox 360 has a lot of life still in it because of where it's currently priced and the amount of room for Microsoft to go with not only the Kinect device, but also the hardware of the Xbox 360 itself. arkephonic

How is $400 to $200 dollars not a substantial price drop?

You consider this, "widening the gap"?

Do you have difficulty reading sentences in a clear and effective manner? What part of no price drops within the past few years did you manage to miss? A $100 price difference across I believe two price drops in a span of six and half years is not substantial.

Overall ratio being used to correlate for current selling rate. Has sold =/= is selling. I guess your reading comprehension skills are lacking considerably.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Well that made sense.

/sarcasm

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Problem: The PS3 has had two relatively substantial pricedrops in the past few years compared to none for the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 has since managed to widen the gap without a price drop, and in its later stages of its life. The Xbox 360 has a lot of life still in it because of where it's currently priced and the amount of room for Microsoft to go with not only the Kinect device, but also the hardware of the Xbox 360 itself. Stevo_the_gamer

How is $400 to $200 dollars not a substantial price drop?

You consider this, "widening the gap"?

Do you have difficulty reading sentences in a clear and effective manner? What part of no price drops within the past few years did you manage to miss? A $100 price difference across I believe two price drops in a span of six and half years is not substantial.

Overall ratio being used to correlate for current selling rate. Has sold =/= is selling. I guess your reading comprehension skills are lacking considerably.

A price drop of $100 dollars isn't substantial? Lol, no one is exactly accusing Stevo of being the most intelligent guy on SW...

Few = 3 or more.

That price drop took place a few years ago.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Sorry I'll use little words. You said: "Sony didn't have a console on the market for that first year". It did in fact. Indeed it has had mutiple (more than one)forms of different platforms out simultaneously (at the same time) this generation, and yet has consistently lost money in most quarters and has a huge deficit (loss) for the generation as a whole.

blue_hazy_basic

No wonder I didn't understand what you were saying. You're now including PSP and PS2 into the discussion?

/facepalm

I think he IS stupid