According to Metacritic, Consoles have 325% more "great" exclusives than PC this Gen.

And he's back to his typical goal post moving....

Yup. A majority of PS/XB games are on PC, and better experience on PC.

Not to mention the online on consoles is.....really bad.

This includes 9 of those 24 PS4 AAAs, which happen to be AA on PC due to the lack of review padding. PC has quite a few more technically playable AAAs than PS4.

Technically?......man you're really grasping.... LMFAO!!!

What goal post move?

PC is at 410 AAA+AA titles this gen.

PS4 is at 296 AAA+AA titles this gen.

I'll accept any form of citation that refutes this fact.

PC wins this gen, like it has for most prior gens, due to having the largest high scoring game tally (total or exclusive). Only with a bigger gap than usual this gen. I remember it only beat PS2 by a few games

I mean. It doesn't need them. There's a 114 game deficit, causing PC to be first place according to long standing SW rules (or really, any online library list I've ever seen - who the hell randomly says an 89 didn't count?).

But, are you suggesting the 9 AAAs on PS4 count, and those same 9 AAs on PC shouldn't count when looking at an end of gen tally?

Wouldn't that be...stupid? This, among other reasons, is why AAs count and always will count.

@zaryia: Online on PC is garbage. Stop saying it's the best when so many games are ruined by hack and cheat bots.

Meanwhile the PS4 has the most AAA games and AAA exclusives which make it the best platform.

PS4 has 24 games that score 90 or above on metacritic, PC only has 20....

Those are the numbers and pure and simple, no cherry picking, no goal post moving......those are the scores on the doors....

Deal with it.

And GS SW counts AA games. PS4 is down by 114, a distant second place. Four games, which are also on PC (but in a diferent "bracket"), do not make up for this this massive triple digit deficit.

Why is this so hard to get?

For the record Gamerankings was the original defacto standard, not Metacritic.

gamerankings Does a better job of showing Off the bigger games.

Since PS4’s launch, PS4 has twice as many games 85 or higher than PC.

PS4 = 87 games above 85% at GR

PC = 44 games above 85% at GR

Honestly Gamerankings 85+ list is a better definition of a must buy game, rather than the 400+ game list which is full of games you or I don’t give a shit about

No it wasn't. We used Gamespot. You know this, we debated gamespot scores for years. Not once did we use GR, except when someone like VGKING was bored and wanted to bash PC.

And then we started using MC 99% of the time when the meta died - as your title and most threads show. Don't back track from the site you now most often use, Carlos.

410>296. Like like those other 3 gens were PC won.

No......if you bothered to check GS hasn't used that method for a while now.....I suggest you get with the times.

And even on that older method they still considered AAAE's to be the most important....and PS4 win's that tally too.

You can not win........ trying to claim a system is better because it has more lower scoring games in retarded.....

1. Correct, GS doesn't use any meta game now. But I'm still going to use the standard it placed for 17 years and say AA count. You saying AA don't count is fake, and was never a thing anywhere in SW or its offshoots. In fact, the survival guide mentions AAAA, AAA, AA, and even A. If I were to add A, PC would have 100's of more games.

2. They don't say AAAE. They said Exclusive. PC has the most high scoring exclusives this gen. Winning.

I'm "claiming" PC wins because it has the most high scoring games. Because it does.

4 AAAs, that also happen to be on PC, doesn't beat a 114 AA deficit.

1. PC has the best online. Are you insane? It can play all games at 60 fps (lmao console online 30 fps is so bad). It has several more games, more genres, more players, more competitive scenes, mods (online feature, like it or not), several times the e-sports. It isn't even close. If hacking and cheats were so bad, PC wouldn't be the homestead for competitive gaming and largest communities.

2. PC is the best platform. It has 114 more high scoring games at MC. It plays the better version of nearly all yearly releases. It has the best online. This is a substantial win going by SW standards.

Hahahahaha....no it doesn't..... PC's exclusive count since 2013 is beyond pathetic and is actually worse then Xbone.

How many AAA+AA exclusives does PS4 have?

@zaryia: 1. I would take both the PS4 and Xbox1 over PC when it comes to online gaming. Almost every genre that's not heavily monitored for Esports Is terrible on PC. Rampant cheating and bots is the standard on PC. This rarely happens on either console.

2. PC is a distant second to the PS4 when it comes to both total AAA games and AAA exclusives. PC wins the the AA count but AAA is more important.

1. Subjective. Fact: You would take far less AAA+AA mp games, far less gamers, far less genres, low fps for online, almost no competitive scenes, almost no e-sports? I mean, it's objectively worse. Too bad for you man.

2. AAA count is important, but that doesn't mean the AA count is completely nixed. You know this. But 4 extra games (which actually are on PC too , but don't "count" due to your imaginary AA rule) do not beat out 114 extra games. Even if we did only look at AAA (we don't) In what world is 4 games a distant second lol?

@zaryia: 1. Its not an opinion it's a fact. Cheating ruins the experience and is far more prevalent on PC.

2. That's your opinion but looking at the pitiful AAA PC exclusive list PC is a distant second and at this rate may be third behind the Switch soon as well.

Not enough for it to matter. It has considerably more gamers and competitive games/scenes. This wouldn't be the case if cheating was a deal breaker. PC wouldn't be the homestead of most online gamers, games, and e-sports if this wasn't the case. One game alone has more gamer and e-sports tournaments than PSN. Also 20-30 fps for MP is a no no.

AA games counting in library lists isn't my opinion. It's been a thing here always (that's a fact, ask any moderator if AAs count), both SW off shoot sites, and pretty much any library list I've ever seen online or even real life. Who the hell doesn't count 80-89 scoring titles? This is some brand new shit I've only started seeing here and literally only THIS year.

I'll go further and say Giovela and Scatteh are the ones who started this new fake "rule". Which is odd, Giovela held AAs close to his heart when debating 360 vs PC against me many years back. It's almost as if they invented it after seeing MC tallies. No, not almost, I'm 100% sure thats why they invented this new rule.

I really wouldn't talk about exclusive and PC after my recent findings...

AAA games are generation defining. They are certainly more important than a bunch of filler crap.

Most of these PC games are in the 80-84 score range and have less than 10 reviews. They’re irrelevant

I have 100+ Console Games to choose from with Scores of 85 or better, and each and every one has over 20 reviews. That alone trumps PC’s list of 400 games when most of those PC games have under 10 reviews and are scoring between 80-84

Completely subjective post, and 4v1. IE: I'd take the 81% BFA over literally any console release this gen; but who gives a shit of my opinion. You got screwed by posting MC and you're now scrambling to fix it. First by bringing up the defunct GR, used perhaps once every 2 years, and now a completely opinionated post. Your opinion means little, Mr.Plasma making your XBOX1 look better than PC, or 20 fps being better than 60 fps for 4 years last gen.

P.S. What about the 9 PS4 AAAs that are AA on PC? Do these titles suddenly go from awesome to filler crap? 84%? Wanna bet PC has the most 85%+?

@zaryia: 1. Which proves why the online for MOST games is superior on consoles. Esports numbers are so high for PC due to the popularity of the platform in China and Korea. It's also mainly in two genres RTS and Moba which I concede are better on PC. However fighting, FPS and Racing have superior online on consoles.

2. AAA exclusives is actually one of the most important if not the most important and PC is now in third place behind the Switch and PS4.

1. Which is why it has the most online games, and most played games, and biggest scenes. You're a nut if you think PSN touches PC. LoL alone destroys PSN rofl.

Thumbsticks at 20 fps? Almost no compteitive game? Very few largely played games? No esports? Overall shitty library selection for online? nah.

2. No it's not. PC is first place according to what GS has been using since 2001. Whether it be aaa+aa total or aaa+aa exclusive. We've never just looked at AAAE and said every other game doesn't exist. That's stupid. Who would exclude 99% of the library of each system when looking at library? In fact I don't know of a single site that only looks at AAAE for a total library battle.

I have access to all games on the best system they can be played on, so don't need to hate and beg on a forum to validate the sunk cost

PS4 has the most 85+ games on Gamerankings

"@GioVela2010 According to Metacritic"

Zaryia doesn't know when to stop, which makes this whole thread laughable.

Good job, @GioVela2010 for making Zaryia move goalposts, spins and behave like the sad fanboy he is LMAO.

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

Gamerankings

"@GioVela2010 According to Metacritic"

PS4 will have more 85+ games on Metacritic by Mid September

And that’s PS4 alone, Console Gaming obliterates PC Gaming

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

Gamerankings

"@GioVela2010 According to Metacritic"

PS4 will have more 85+ games on Metacritic by Mid September

And that’s PS4 alone, Console Gaming obliterates PC Gaming

Let's be honest....you could buy all 3 consoles for the price of a decent PC.

Objectively speaking this is incorrect when put against any 1 console.

PC has,

• 114 more high scoring games, or more against systems other than PS4.
• Better version of over 90% of video games (I should stop here, this means gaming is better done on PC).
• Better Online, Competitive, Esports.
• Mods
• Better gfx and performance

You have to combine 4 consoles to come close.

PC gamers having a meltdown as usual, just like lems.

Lets play a fun game OP, how many of those games do you think PC gamers CANNOT play on their PC? ;)

PC reviewers are different to console reviewers so this really doesn't mean anything. The consoles have their own biased media reviewing games on metacritic

From a rough count, 13 AAAs on console are actually AA on PC due to a lack of review padding.

For this reason, we also count AAs. In which case PC is up by 114 games vs PS4.

@zaryia: 1. Irrelevant. Moba and RTS competative scene has 0 impact on the rest of the genres that are worse. PC online is garbage in most genres due to rampant cheating. 20 fps with thumbsticks? Wtf are you talking about ?

2. Were not ignoring PC's library just stating the fact that the PS4 does in fact have more AAA rated games then the PC not to mention more AAA exclusives. Thus the PS4 has the most high rated games.

@zaryia: Stop talking about padding . If we mention padding the PC has one legit AAA exclusive in 5 years.

@blackhairedhero: Yea I forgot counterstrike doesnt exist.

Only reason its "not big in korea / asia" is due to alternative games such as crossfire.

pubg is obviously fkin massive over in asia.

oh wait shit, im arguing with idiots again, they will beat me with experience.

Rampant cheating? Cool. Glad you never play them and know everything.

MC designates 75+ as high-rated. Are we to subjugate their rating system for ours, yet still use their scores? SW defines AAA as 9+, but that uses GS scores, not MC.

@dxmcat: Because counter strike isn't full if cheaters?

It's the Truth the PC has about 5 massive games in 3 different genres that make up more then half there audience. The vast amount of PC gaming is full of cheaters. And yes I do know because I use to game on PC. MMO's are a joke most of them are filled with bots. Gotta love the aim bots on FPS are the maphackers on RTS. It's a fucking joke and the reason about 5 games make up the vast majority of the audience.

Could you provide proof of this?

I cut out the rest of your post, but shit, could you provide proof for any of it?

1. PC vs PS4 Online

• More AAA+AA online games
• More highly played online games to choose from
• More players, by far
• More competitive games, genres, and scenes, by far
• Higher performance in more games
• Mods
• Significantly more e-sports games, tournaments, and players.

This isn't even a debate. PS4 has nothing over PCs online.

2. You're setting a false criteria for high rated games. It's always been AAA+AA for the SW metagame. The meta game is over now, but I don't see any reason we suddenly would drop AA titles, especially when several of them are actually AAA on consoles. PC has 114 more high rated games than PS4. We don't magically not include games that scored 8.9, nor will you find any citation or sourcing of this.

@lundy86_4: AA is 8 to 8.9 and Always has been.

GS SW typically used 8-10 for high scoring games (2001-2013).

MC uses 75-100.

PC wins with both methods.

There is 0 method that only employs 9-10. They are not citing any source that is giving them this rule.

@blackhairedhero: That doesn't address my post at all. A/AA/AAA/AAAA ratings have always utilized GS scores, not MC. Games are given a variation of "A" scores as determined by the GS review.

If you would address my post without a Red Herring, that would be great.

So Esports numbers don't count because some countries prefer PC over consoles? FPS are dominated by PC in the competitive scene well don't try to bullshit it, the only games with a somewhat large competitive scene on consoles are Call of Duty and Halo and even they can't touch PC games such as CS:GO and Crossfire. Even multiplats such as Overwatch and Rainbow Six Siege have a much more competitive scene on PC. Ubisoft even tried to push Rainbow Six Siege's esports scene with Xbox One and it died off within a year while the PC version just kept getting bigger.

I'll give you fighters in having a better online experience than PC due to more players being on consoles but even then the Fighting Game Community is very niche and is nowhere near as big as the FPS, RTS, and MOBA scene. I'm not sure about the size of the racing competitive scene but from what I'm looking its not that big either and in 2014 Trackmania was the only racing game at Electronic Sports World Convention and Trackmania is a mostly PC exclusive franchise (with only game for the Wii and one for DS at the time) the biggest online racing game on PC.

If we were to go buy sales/money generated and not just scores AAA games are definitely not the most important games its stuff like Fortnite and PUBG.

But even if this was true, PC still has several more highly played games than PSN does. Dozens more. Half of the PC audience is still far more than PSN.

Citation Needed.

Citation Needed.

The most played online system, by several magnitudes, that holds almost all of competitive gaming, and all of e-sports, is a "fucking joke"? Even if 5 games make up a vast majority of the audience, and if you take them out, it still has dozens of games with more players than PSNs handful of highly played titles. Most of which happen to be FPS games with THUMBSTICKS.

It has dozens of more competitive titles, and e-sports titles. You don't have that many seriously competitive games if it was all hackers. PSN on the otherhand has like 3. And they suck.

Almost everything in this post was a lie and stupid. Everyone knows PC has the best online. By far.

@zaryia: There is a AAA and AAAA list of games. 9.0 to 9.9 is AAA. AAAA is 10.0 which is gamespot only. PC loses to PS4 by both standards.

Haha, this dude got tag-teamed because he's so out there.

@lundy86_4: A 75 to 79 here on Gamespot is an A. A is considered a flop and has been forever here in GS. So now your saying 75 to 79 is AA?