Activision: Blockbuster games should be 70 pounds or more.

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#1 taj7575
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Sorry about the title...It wasnt activision who said this, but some crazy guy who I wouldnt doubt is somewhat linked to activision >_>

I actually found this at the MW2 boards, but it will be seen more here. Story:

"Modern Warfare 2 and the UK have been strange bedfellows in the media lately, with news that Activision will raise the price of the game to £54.99 (nearly $90). According to game industry mogul (and former Sony Europe boss) Chris Deering, the price hike isn't high enough. Deering tells MCV that blockbuster games simply aren't being produced efficiently enough, saying that the price of such games would actually have to cruise up to £70 ($115!) in order to support the industry as they once did.

That said, Deering realizes that there is "a psychological glass ceiling" for the amount consumers are willing to spend, and notes, "Consumers won't spend more, but to write the game, publishers are having to spend more than ever before. That's the key problem."

Of course, the flipside of this is that game prices could be lower if they were produced more efficiently -- or if the games market grew large enough to support the industry by buying more copies. But $115 games? Ouch."

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So what are your thoughts on this? I know how I feel about this :evil:

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#2 Nonstop-Madness
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what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game.
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#3 chapnzaba
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GAHH!! Activision flippin ruins everything!
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#4 aaronmullan
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Activision... Oh, Activision... :x
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#5 heretrix
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They can do that if they want to and justify it all they want, but I will just buy something else.

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#6 ToScA-
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Colour me speechless and raging.
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#7 SparkyProtocol
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I hope that statement becomes public. I want everyone to not buy into their crap.
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#8 taj7575
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what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game. Nonstop-Madness

Apparently activision thinks people will. I hope they boycott this or something. I hate activision..

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#9 heretrix
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what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game. Nonstop-Madness
Neo Geo carts cost a couple hundred bucks a piece.

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#10 Yandere
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Wow, Activision proves loyalty to their fans once again.

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#11 sikanderahmed
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yes if you wanna kill gaming then thats the way to go. also how exactly are publishers spending more? especially activison? cod MW2 is MW1 with new maps etc.

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#12 Nerkcon
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game. heretrix

Neo Geo carts cost a couple hundred bucks a piece.

And look how well that system did! :D
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#13 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game. Nerkcon

Neo Geo carts cost a couple hundred bucks a piece.

And look how well that system did! :D

It actually did pretty well for a console that retailed at 600 plus dollars.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]what ? are they insane ? No one would ever pay that much for 1 game. heretrix

Neo Geo carts cost a couple hundred bucks a piece.

And what is that company doing now? ;)
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#15 DJ_Lae
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I hate Activision, but does Chris Deering have anything to do with them? He used to be with Sony and now is just a flapping jaw as far as I know. I mean, I have no doubt Bobby Kotick wants all the Modern Warfare fans to accept every inch of him and suck it up, but still.
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#16 Lethalhazard
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What the Hell? It's like everyday I come on here, and Activision is purposely getting bad publicity. I wish more casual gamers were aware of things like this, so everyone could boycott Activision forever >_>
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#17 Jfisch93
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If only Atari didn't mess up... Activision would have neva been born...

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#18 Snagal123
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They must be joking, a 360 arcade only costs £120.

They can charge that if they want, but expect very little sales.

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#19 SparkyProtocol
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I hope G4 talks about this so that it spreads around more.
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#20 ThePistolGod
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..and this is the same company who told Sony to do a price drop? Lol.

Activision fails. Whatever, I was boycotting their terrible games when they screwed up Tony Hawk with THPS4. All their bullsh** lately is just icing on the cake.

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#21 organic_machine
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This is the beginning of the end. The cost of producing high end games is increasing without end in sight.

This is why I prefer niche titles.

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#22 o0squishy0o
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ohh wow thats wayyyyyyy to much i mean if it did and your average joe gets £200 for christmas thats 2.8 games where as if it was before £40 ish thats 5.. thats mad wtf they are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to money hungry.

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#23 chapnzaba
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..and this is the same company who told Sony to do a price drop? Lol.

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*sigh* Yes... wow.
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#24 t3hTwinky
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Activision Exec: "Hmm, make better, more economic decisions developing our games... or massive price hike. What to do, what to do..."

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#25 ogvampire
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thats fine. i will just rent their games instead from now on

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#26 stereointegrity
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the new EA.......
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#27 Swift_Boss_A
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Hah what a joke! Its a good thing I have never bought an Activision game. Success have definitely gone to their head, 1st threatening Sony, then milkage with more Guitar hero spin-offs and now wanting game prices to be higher! have I left anyhting out? Seriously Activision is really full of fail lately. I hope MW2 flops in sales :x
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#28 PBSnipes
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While he's right in theory (sales have remained constant despite ballooning development costs), you'd figure Activision would be smart enough to keep their mouths shut. I somehow doubt the practice of slapping a new coat of paint on CoD/Guitar Hero/Tony Hawk every year and calling it a sequel is becoming prohibitively expensive.

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#29 WilliamRLBaker
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RAGEEEE hypothetical sitatuation rage!!!

they aren't actually doing it people they are just talking about what they think it would take.

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#30 samuraiguns
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lol, I am not buying. I hate activision now, SCUM.

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#31 ComBaTsOuL
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Im sorry but im from the uk and i am really looking forward to modern2 but if they release the game for £54 i wont buy it never mind £70 its a p1$$ take.......

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#32 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

RAGEEEE hypothetical sitatuation rage!!!

they aren't actually doing it people they are just talking about what they think it would take.

It still gives plenty of reason to be pissed that Greedavision is even considering it.
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#33 shutdown_202
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Counting the days till they collapse. Its going to happen, just a matter of when.

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#34 taj7575
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While he's right in theory (sales have remained constant despite ballooning development costs), you'd figure Activision would be smart enough to keep their mouths shut. I somehow doubt the practice of slapping a new coat of paint on CoD/Guitar Hero/Tony Hawk every year and calling it a sequel is becoming prohibitively expensive.

PBSnipes

But sadly, thats what they do and It sells. I'm really thinking of not buying MW2 now :x

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#35 Sotonian_Rebel
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if it does ever reach that price i will stop gaming, simple as that for me to be honest. i am not willing to pay £70 on one game not matter how good it is.

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#36 SMR-Venom
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These guys are turning into the scum of the Earth :|
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#37 Brownesque
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It's funny because they're still selling the game for the standard $60 in the United States, it's only in the UK that they are proposing a price that is nearly double the US price at $115. I think they're dreaming and I would not be willing to buy Modern Warfare 2 for $20. It's sad because Activision is actively trying to sever ANY IP that is not profitable and that has immediate sales potential and future sequel potential. They've ridded themselves of a number of very good IPs just because they can't exploit them. Everyone else in the business works their ass off and they're lucky if they can break a million sales at the $60 price point. Let's see them try this crap in the US and see how it goes over. Maybe some people are willing to pay $200 for the next Guitar Hero Van Halen (Jump!), but I can't imagine who they'd be. How about they focus on quality control first, and THEN negotiate the price with consumers? Anyway, I'm eagerly awaiting the UK sales flop and the subsequent price drop as Activision is forced to eat their words and change their business strategy.
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#39 Vaasman
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Oh Activision, can't you just stop running your mouth for 5 freaking seconds so I can not regret it when I buy Starcraft 2?

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#40 AnnoyedDragon
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If anything game prices should be lower, Steam sales have already shown games are highly price elastic.

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"In fact, it dramatically increased sales. Illustrating his point, Newell showed the results of a Left 4 Dead promotion Valve ran last weekend, which cut the price of the game in half to $25. The discount (and promise of new content for the game) rocketed sales of the game on Steam by 3,000 percent.

"We sold more in revenue this last weekend than we did when we launched the product," says Newell. "We were driving a huge uptick in revenue and attracting new customers." And while people believe that we're "screwing" retail, Newell showed that brick-and-mortar sales were unaffected by the online discount.

This phenomenon is not limited to Valve games. Over the holidays, Steam discounted third-party titles. Sales increased 300 percent and units-sold increased by 600 percent.

Still skeptical? Newell said that a weekend sale of one third-party title drove that game's sales up by 18,000 percent and units-sold increased 36,000 percent. It energized the user base, says Newell. When the sale ended, baseline sales were double what they were prior to the weekend discount.

Discounting games does not only increase unit sales--it increases actual revenues. During the 16-day sale window over the holidays, third-parties were given a choice as to how severely they would discount their games. Those that discounted their games by 10 percent saw a 35% uptick in sales--that's dollars, not units. A 25 percent discount meant a 245 percent increase in sales. Dropping the price by 50 percent meant a sales increase of 320 percent. And a 75 percent decrease in the price point generated a 1,470 percent increase in sales."

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#41 mythrol
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GFY Activision. I hate you for what you've done to Blizzard.
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#42 GTR2addict
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activision is EA all over again... except in a price measure, not a DRM one, seriously, activision, pull your head out of your money filled butt and open your damn eyes
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#43 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="ThePistolGod"]

..and this is the same company who told Sony to do a price drop? Lol.

chapnzaba
*sigh* Yes... wow.

The same Sony that includes massive dedicated server support for their games, absolutely astronomical budgets (see Killzone 2), a loss per console sold since launch, no dashboard ads, free online, and often, open source code on their first party games (Naughty Dog and Insomniac). In other words, screw Activision. As long as Sony is willing to bend over backward, creating high caliber, original IPs AND support them, all at a loss, why would I care what Activision has to say? What are they going to give me, the next Rock Hero Exploitathon Super Pack?
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#44 VendettaRed07
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and once this stupid game sells 12 copies in the uk im guessing they are going to rethink theyre strategy

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#45 BlancoBX
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who would spend that much money on a game thats more than likely to be some rehashed garbage, which is all activision seems to be good for now a days...if anyone actually buys this they are supporting the end of gaming as we know it

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#46 tumle
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I really don't understand why they would say things like this, when they have a year over year profit.. or maybe its just me not understanding greed.

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#47 DJ_Lae
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So many posts and no one can read. Chris Deering is just a Michael Pachter-like guy, he has nothing to do with Activision. Activision are a bunch of **bleep**s but this time they aren't running their mouth off.
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#48 SparkyProtocol
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GFY Activision. I hate you for what you've done to Blizzard.mythrol
What have they done?
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#49 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]GFY Activision. I hate you for what you've done to Blizzard.SparkyProtocol
What have they done?

I think Blizzard's doing it, TBH. But they've definitely gone the wrong route. Starcraft 2 is going to be segmented in 3 regularly priced parts. They cut LAN support. That, and the bloated monstrosity of World of Warcraft, in my opinion the apex of MMO evil and the best example of consumer gouging I've yet seen.
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#50 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]GFY Activision. I hate you for what you've done to Blizzard.SparkyProtocol
What have they done?

I have no doubts that all the issues with Starcraft 2 stem from Activision acquiring Blizzard.