Adam Sessler is rippin someone a new one

You can assume a lot from behind a fake name and a laggy connection, paying them attention gives these pre-teen postules their power to annoy, they want attention so racism is the obvious port of call. Nobody is really racist if you think about it, so called racism only comes from either "daddy-issues" or a lust for attention like which is being displayed on xbl.

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]Nice it was a good rant, I hate people who do that on Xbox Live.rybe1025

Unlike Xbox Live, in Team Fortress 2 you can ban them from server. What Xbox Live needs is Admin support, somehow, someway that's what needs to happen.

I agree with Adam on this.

To be fair, i dont think this is an issue with xbox live, PSN or even "gaming" at all. It's much broader than that. Look no further than the absolute cesspit of racism and abuse that is YouTube.com - it's simply a fact that when people are allowed to interact with whoever they like, however they like, without fear of any consequence at all, they turn into douches. That natural instinct you have when talking to other people to be polite and to not be abbrasive disappears because you're no longer in the company of other people; rather it's just you, and you need not worry about what you say at all because at the end of the day - what are they gunna do?

It's sick. And it's the case with a lot of people.

Ninja-Hippo

We, as gamers, need to step up and change.Ibacai

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]We, as gamers, need to step up and change.Jandurin

Sessler actually said something intelligent. :shock:

I agree.
Saturos3091

Thats not intelligence, just common sense.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]The problem with voice chat is that it's much harder to moderate than text.Ninja-Hippo

just pay what like 10 people next to nothing to game 8 hours a day and mod at the same time....Once people start getting in trouble word will get around. Watch your month are you may get baned.

10 people to moderate a community of over 10 million members?

You really don't need a lot. Maybe more than 10. But once they start and have let everyone know the fact they are modding, it will take on a life of it own. People don't want to be ban from something they enjoy so much. MS lets it be know they are modding thought news outlets, pay some teenage kids $7.00 to mod. End of story.....

You would still have the problem but trust me if you enjoy playing on live you would learn to watch your month.

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]We, as gamers, need to step up and change.Jandurin

Thats not intelligence, just common sense.

6matt6

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want

evilross

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

It wouldn't really fall under freedom of speech it would go directly under verbal harrassment. And we all know you can't get away with verbally harrassing someone in RL to the degree of dropping offense racial slurs, and derogatory profantities.

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

Now we wait until you get called a racist.

[QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

blue_hazy_basic

Pretty big hurdle to overcome, it's kind of tough to just turn that part of humanity off when for countless generations racism(a.k.a. suspicion/mistrust) was such a huge survival advantage for early humans.

I'm telling you guys that as wrong as racism is it's built into our genitic code and we are not going to beat this thing overnight.

All we can do is to try our hardest to wipe this crap out as much as possible within ourselves and make it known that it is unacceptible behavior to the people around you.

Good luck on this one world it's going to be a long hard road ahead.

[QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

6matt6

Now we wait until you get called a racist.

Actually Xbox live does not cite as public, and Microsoft is with in their full right to ban who ever the hell you want.. And no one has said that they should ban their speech.. People need to understand wth they are talking about, the more this bigotry is allowed and people don't go after them the more its gonna spread.. Also freedom of speech does not embody harrassment of people, start harrass a person in a building and you will be escorted out by police.. So I fail to see how this some how breaks the lines of freedom of speech.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

sSubZerOo

Now we wait until you get called a racist.

Actually Xbox live does not cite as public, and Microsoft is with in their full right to ban who ever the hell you want.. And no one has said that they should ban their speech.. People need to understand wth they are talking about, the more this bigotry is allowed and people don't go after them the more its gonna spread.. Also freedom of speech does not embody harrassment of people, start harrass a person in a building and you will be escorted out by police.. So I fail to see how this some how breaks the lines of freedom of speech.

Im not against banning people i just dont like how this problem is being made from a mole-hill to a mountain.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything. Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

sSubZerOo

Now we wait until you get called a racist.

Actually Xbox live does not cite as public, and Microsoft is with in their full right to ban who ever the hell you want.. And no one has said that they should ban their speech.. People need to understand wth they are talking about, the more this bigotry is allowed and people don't go after them the more its gonna spread.. Also freedom of speech does not embody harrassment of people, start harrass a person in a building and you will be escorted out by police.. So I fail to see how this some how breaks the lines of freedom of speech.

XBL does not cite as public, you are correct, nor does any privately owned, open to the public establishment, such as a restaurant, bar, shopping mall ext.

I was commenting on the general direction of the thread, not the XBL situation specifically.

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything.Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

I have the right to be offended by everything.

Does freedom of speech really extend to inciting racial hatred?

Surely this is one of the poorest uses of the whole "freedom of speech" thing ever. Thats freedom of speech for the dumb. Freedom of speech is for allowing the oppressed to speak about anything they want (like the Chinese people who can't, because of their government). Not for the racist to use it to justify their crap.

People fight long and hard for everyones equality not just for one races. If you say freedom of speech really extends this far and that people don't have the right to be offended, then surely thats the same as saying people of colour do not have the right to fight for their equality isn't it?

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Props to sessler.

I have had many a heated argument with some ignorant arse who decides it's "cool" to throw n-bombs around every second. "But I know black people and it's cool." Yeah, right. Try saying the n-bomb to a black person you meet off the street. And then try to stay alive. :lol:.

PRKiNG45

Ok, I have said it and nothing has happened. I'm obviously still alive (or am I imagining this in the afterlife?)

Do I get a cookie or something? Oh, and I said it in a deragatory way. Nobody is gonna do anything, I don't understand why people say "say that to a black person and see what happens"

Yeah because black people are just so tough, ZOMG!

Get real. Black people are not intimidating, they pose no more of a threat than any other race.

I'm not black but stfu. There is no reason to ever say the n word. stfu

To be fair, i dont think this is an issue with xbox live, PSN or even "gaming" at all. It's much broader than that. Look no further than the absolute cesspit of racism and abuse that is YouTube.com - it's simply a fact that when people are allowed to interact with whoever they like, however they like, without fear of any consequence at all, they turn into douches. That natural instinct you have when talking to other people to be polite and to not be abbrasive disappears because you're no longer in the company of other people; rather it's just you, and you need not worry about what you say at all because at the end of the day - what are they gunna do?

It's sick. And it's the case with a lot of people.

Ninja-Hippo

A sad thing about this issue is that when it has been brought up in the past, Xbox fans in particular have denied that this goes on. Somehow there is a large majority of people who play on XBL who don't experience these things, but whenever I join a game it is either full of people who don't say anything or a bunch of racist idiots. XBL's community has certainly changed over the years. I remember the days before Halo 2 where basically everyone got a long and had fun. Now it is just a lugubrious cesspool of ignorant kids spouting out foul profanities and racial slurs.

I disagree, to some extent it is an issue with XBL and PSN. If I go play COD 4 on the PC I know that I will not be hearing or seeing all of these racial and offensive slurs because I know that the servers I play in are tough on kicking/banning people who use them. A sad thing about this issue is that when it has been brought up in the past, Xbox fans in particular have denied that this goes on. Somehow there is a large majority of people who play on XBL who don't experience these things, but whenever I join a game it is either full of people who don't say anything or a bunch of racist idiots. XBL's community has certainly changed over the years. I remember the days before Halo 2 where basically everyone got a long and had fun. Now it is just a lugubrious cesspool of ignorant kids spouting out foul profanities and racial slurs.smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything.Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

Darth_DuMas

I have the right to be offended by everything.

Does freedom of speech really extend to inciting racial hatred?

Surely this is one of the poorest uses of the whole "freedom of speech" thing ever. Thats freedom of speech for the dumb. Freedom of speech is for allowing the oppressed to speak about anything they want (like the Chinese people who can't, because of their government). Not for the racist to use it to justify their crap.

People fight long and hard for everyones equality not just for one races. If you say freedom of speech really extends this far and that people don't have the right to be offended, then surely thats the same as saying people of colour do not have the right to fight for their equality isn't it?

Your analogy is completely flawed. Public speech is not limited nor should it ever be. People can and should be able to think and say whatever they choose, understanding that they must deal with the repercussions of what words they choose to use.

The government does not have a right to limit what you can say in any manner, barring a few legal exceptions such as communicating threats, and speech is limited under oath of course, but under oath you also have the right to say nothing.

Your speech rights differ when in the private sector, where a privately owned establishment can choose to make you leave, ban you or what-not for whatever reason they choose. That extends to online environments like XBL, PSN, WoW, and such.

People like Duke, Wright, Farrakhan, and Fonda can say anything they want, without fear of prosecution for their believes, but they must also accept the general publics disdain for their speech, and limit their speech to public record, and private places that allow it. This apples to everyone, and should always apply to everyone.

Like I said before, I'm not commenting on the XBL situation, just the general flow of the tread, and the consensus opinion that people have the right to not be offended by anything.

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"][QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything.Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

evilross

I have the right to be offended by everything.

Does freedom of speech really extend to inciting racial hatred?

Surely this is one of the poorest uses of the whole "freedom of speech" thing ever. Thats freedom of speech for the dumb. Freedom of speech is for allowing the oppressed to speak about anything they want (like the Chinese people who can't, because of their government). Not for the racist to use it to justify their crap.

People fight long and hard for everyones equality not just for one races. If you say freedom of speech really extends this far and that people don't have the right to be offended, then surely thats the same as saying people of colour do not have the right to fight for their equality isn't it?

Your analogy is completely flawed. Public speech is not limited nor should it ever be. People can and should be able to think and say whatever they choose, understanding that they must deal with the repercussions of what words they choose to use.

The government does not have a right to limit what you can say in any manner, barring a few legal exceptions such as communicating threats, and speech is limited under oath of course, but under oath you also have the right to say nothing.

Your speech rights differ when in the private sector, where a privately owned establishment can choose to make you leave, ban you or what-not for whatever reason they choose. That extends to online environments like XBL, PSN, WoW, and such.

People like Duke, Wright, Farrakhan, and Fonda can say anything they want, without fear of prosecution for their believes, but they must also accept the general publics disdain for their speech, and limit their speech to public record, and private places that allow it. This apples to everyone, and should always apply to everyone.

Like I said before, I'm not commenting on the XBL situation, just the general flow of the tread, and the consensus opinion that people have the right to not be offended by anything.

Oh and if I can say anything I want in America what would happen if I publically threatened the life of the president?

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I disagree, to some extent it is an issue with XBL and PSN. If I go play COD 4 on the PC I know that I will not be hearing or seeing all of these racial and offensive slurs because I know that the servers I play in are tough on kicking/banning people who use them. A sad thing about this issue is that when it has been brought up in the past, Xbox fans in particular have denied that this goes on. Somehow there is a large majority of people who play on XBL who don't experience these things, but whenever I join a game it is either full of people who don't say anything or a bunch of racist idiots. XBL's community has certainly changed over the years. I remember the days before Halo 2 where basically everyone got a long and had fun. Now it is just a lugubrious cesspool of ignorant kids spouting out foul profanities and racial slurs.Jandurin

To be fair, i dont think this is an issue with xbox live, PSN or even "gaming" at all. It's much broader than that. Look no further than the absolute cesspit of racism and abuse that is YouTube.com - it's simply a fact that when people are allowed to interact with whoever they like, however they like, without fear of any consequence at all, they turn into douches. That natural instinct you have when talking to other people to be polite and to not be abbrasive disappears because you're no longer in the company of other people; rather it's just you, and you need not worry about what you say at all because at the end of the day - what are they gunna do?

It's sick. And it's the case with a lot of people.

Ninja-Hippo

From here on out I will start chasing people down relentlessly with my Katana for harassing me on the internet.

[QUOTE="evilross"][QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"][QUOTE="evilross"]

If your so self conscious and thin skinned about your identity that you can't bear to hear people use words you take as derogatory, then I suggest you move to a country that has laws limiting the use of speech, or be open and honest about your feelings that you would like to have laws limiting free expression in public in this country.

Words are words, people in the USA have the right to say, and think anything they want. You do not have the right to not be offended by anything.Some people my make poor choices of word usage, and look like fools, but that is their right and choice. Its not your right to stifle public speech because you don't like what is said. Going that route is very dangerous to the freedoms and individuality of a nations citizens, regardless if limiting speech starts with good intentions.

blue_hazy_basic

I have the right to be offended by everything.

Does freedom of speech really extend to inciting racial hatred?

Surely this is one of the poorest uses of the whole "freedom of speech" thing ever. Thats freedom of speech for the dumb. Freedom of speech is for allowing the oppressed to speak about anything they want (like the Chinese people who can't, because of their government). Not for the racist to use it to justify their crap.

People fight long and hard for everyones equality not just for one races. If you say freedom of speech really extends this far and that people don't have the right to be offended, then surely thats the same as saying people of colour do not have the right to fight for their equality isn't it?

Your analogy is completely flawed. Public speech is not limited nor should it ever be. People can and should be able to think and say whatever they choose, understanding that they must deal with the repercussions of what words they choose to use.

The government does not have a right to limit what you can say in any manner, barring a few legal exceptions such as communicating threats, and speech is limited under oath of course, but under oath you also have the right to say nothing.

Your speech rights differ when in the private sector, where a privately owned establishment can choose to make you leave, ban you or what-not for whatever reason they choose. That extends to online environments like XBL, PSN, WoW, and such.

People like Duke, Wright, Farrakhan, and Fonda can say anything they want, without fear of prosecution for their believes, but they must also accept the general publics disdain for their speech, and limit their speech to public record, and private places that allow it. This apples to everyone, and should always apply to everyone.

Like I said before, I'm not commenting on the XBL situation, just the general flow of the tread, and the consensus opinion that people have the right to not be offended by anything.

Oh and if I can say anything I want in America what would happen if I publically threatened the life of the president?

The FCC regulates open channel airwaves for content. Closed channel broadcasts are not regulated.

Some EU counties have very stifling speech laws, some things are even prosecutable. More free indeed.

I plainly stated that there are legal exceptions to free public speech, such as communicating threats. Read the whole post before replying please.

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Props to sessler.

I have had many a heated argument with some ignorant arse who decides it's "cool" to throw n-bombs around every second. "But I know black people and it's cool." Yeah, right. Try saying the n-bomb to a black person you meet off the street. And then try to stay alive. :lol:.

PRKiNG45

Ok, I have said it and nothing has happened. I'm obviously still alive (or am I imagining this in the afterlife?)

Do I get a cookie or something? Oh, and I said it in a deragatory way. Nobody is gonna do anything, I don't understand why people say "say that to a black person and see what happens"

Yeah because black people are just so tough, ZOMG!

Get real. Black people are not intimidating, they pose no more of a threat than any other race.

You did? COOL MAN !!! YOu're SO BADA$$!! seriously.. are you like 5 or something?

To break away from the current debate on 1st amendment rights-which is an awesome thing to see- ,here is one of my methods of dealing with the "ilk" of Xbox Live; confusion.

Here's an example: once I was playing Halo 3 with a random group of people. Everything was fine until an obviously prepubescent voice started singing his version of the Barney theme song, complete with anti-Semitic lyrics. After 15 minutes of this, and everybody else in the game responding with the standard "STFU NOOB" I opted for a different approach. I asked the kid what caused him to sing this song, so plainly and eloquently voicing his deeply held conviction that "JOOWS are STOOPID" and were in need of much killing. After brashly inquiring about my sexuality, I retorted something about how he "clearly didn't understand the faith of those he was persecuting, and therefore an anti-Semitic theological discussion was beyond his present cerebral capabilities." He then said some things about my mom, and quit the game. There was much rejoicing.

Anyway, that's what I usually do if there is a problem with hate-speech during a game. If nothing else, you can get some really entertaining/ironic discussions going on.

[QUOTE="PRKiNG45"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Props to sessler.

I have had many a heated argument with some ignorant arse who decides it's "cool" to throw n-bombs around every second. "But I know black people and it's cool." Yeah, right. Try saying the n-bomb to a black person you meet off the street. And then try to stay alive. :lol:.

Lemmywinks_360

Ok, I have said it and nothing has happened. I'm obviously still alive (or am I imagining this in the afterlife?)

Do I get a cookie or something? Oh, and I said it in a deragatory way. Nobody is gonna do anything, I don't understand why people say "say that to a black person and see what happens"

Yeah because black people are just so tough, ZOMG!

Get real. Black people are not intimidating, they pose no more of a threat than any other race.

I'm not black but stfu. There is no reason to ever say the n word. stfu

Perfect example.

I'm sure he meant no animosity. But there are people that can take offense. How do you regulate that? You really can't. To look at each situation would be a huge undertaking... which MS has actually taken upon themselves to an extent.

XBL's Policy Team does look at each complaint individually, but even so, they can only do so much. That's why we have tools to help manage our online experience. But eventually, it falls on the community to govern itself... decide for itself what it will tolerate.

To break away from the current debate on 1st amendment rights-which is an awesome thing to see- ,here is one of my methods of dealing with the "ilk" of Xbox Live; confusion.

Here's an example: once I was playing Halo 3 with a random group of people. Everything was fine until an obviously prepubescent voice started singing his version of the Barney theme song, complete with anti-Semitic lyrics. After 15 minutes of this, and everybody else in the game responding with the standard "STFU NOOB" I opted for a different approach. I asked the kid what caused him to sing this song, so plainly and eloquently voicing his deeply held conviction that "JOOWS are STOOPID" and were in need of much killing. After brashly inquiring about my sexuality, I retorted something about how he "clearly didn't understand the faith of those he was persecuting, and therefore an anti-Semitic theological discussion was beyond his present cerebral capabilities." He then said some things about my mom, and quit the game. There was much rejoicing.

Anyway, that's what I usually do if there is a problem with hate-speech during a game. If nothing else, you can get some really entertaining/ironic discussions going on.

CaptainUber

This is why i believe we are making mountains out of mole-hills. Immature children do not = racist bigots.

[QUOTE="CaptainUber"]

To break away from the current debate on 1st amendment rights-which is an awesome thing to see- ,here is one of my methods of dealing with the "ilk" of Xbox Live; confusion.

Here's an example: once I was playing Halo 3 with a random group of people. Everything was fine until an obviously prepubescent voice started singing his version of the Barney theme song, complete with anti-Semitic lyrics. After 15 minutes of this, and everybody else in the game responding with the standard "STFU NOOB" I opted for a different approach. I asked the kid what caused him to sing this song, so plainly and eloquently voicing his deeply held conviction that "JOOWS are STOOPID" and were in need of much killing. After brashly inquiring about my sexuality, I retorted something about how he "clearly didn't understand the faith of those he was persecuting, and therefore an anti-Semitic theological discussion was beyond his present cerebral capabilities." He then said some things about my mom, and quit the game. There was much rejoicing.

Anyway, that's what I usually do if there is a problem with hate-speech during a game. If nothing else, you can get some really entertaining/ironic discussions going on.

6matt6

This is why i believe we are making mountains out of mole-hills. Immature children do not = racist bigots.

If you don't discourage that behavior at a young age than what is stoping that kid from growing up into a racist bigot???

What a F@G!!!Medic_B

:lol: thanks for making my day looooool

The FCC regulates open channel airwaves for content. Closed channel broadcasts are not regulated.

Some EU counties have very stifling speech laws, some things are even prosecutable. More free indeed.

I plainly stated that there are legal exceptions to free public speech, such as communicating threats. Read the whole post before replying please.

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