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Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(AnjunaddictIt doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)
[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(sayonara89It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;) MGS4 is sub-HD regardless of it being 1024x768. Besides, Remedy confirmed that AW runs at 720p
[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(93soccerIt doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;) MGS4 is sub-HD regardless of it being 1024x768. Besides, Remedy confirmed that AW runs at 720pwasnt that the owner of the site or something?
[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(93soccerIt doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;) MGS4 is sub-HD regardless of it being 1024x768. Besides, Remedy confirmed that AW runs at 720p It still way higher resolution than 960x540. Pixel counters from B3D are never wrong, thanks to them you know that MGS4/Halo 3/ GTA4 PS3/ Haze/ SCC are sub-hhd :roll:
[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(sayonara89It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
MGS4 is not rendered at 1024x768, that would 4:3, the pixel count by Quaz51 gave us that number, but the game renders in 16x9 meaning it's an equivalent pixel resolution of
1182x665 or 665p
[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="sayonara89"] It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)sayonara89MGS4 is sub-HD regardless of it being 1024x768. Besides, Remedy confirmed that AW runs at 720p It still way higher resolution than 960x540. Pixel counters from B3D are never wrong, thanks to them you know that MGS4/Halo 3/ GTA4 PS3/ Haze/ SCC are sub-hhd :roll:B3D didnt do Alan Wake, a German site did it with their own vid-cap equipment. It was just POSTED on neogaf :P
It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Just like sub-HD MGS4, this game will now be mediocre :(Anjunaddict
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
Lems always bashed MGS4 graphics :roll: It wasn't graphics king in 2008, but it's still great looking console game. Alan Wake can't be compared to GOW3/K2/U2 and even GeOW2 becouse it runs in almost SD resolution (720x576/720x480 is SD).
[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]
[QUOTE="sayonara89"] It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)sayonara89
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
Lems always bashed MGS4 graphics :roll: It wasn't graphics king in 2008, but it's still great looking console game. Alan Wake can't be compared to GOW3/K2/U2 and even GeOW2 becouse it runs in almost SD resolution (720x576/720x480 is SD).
Dude, are you just ignoring the links posted here? That is considered trolling you know. You cant just keep ignoring the links proving what you are saying are wrong, and keep saying that it isnt true. That comes across as trying to annoy others on purpose...........another Gamespot no-no.[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
navyguy21
Lems always bashed MGS4 graphics :roll: It wasn't graphics king in 2008, but it's still great looking console game. Alan Wake can't be compared to GOW3/K2/U2 and even GeOW2 becouse it runs in almost SD resolution (720x576/720x480 is SD).
Dude, are you just ignoring the links posted here? That is considered trolling you know. You cant just keep ignoring the links proving what you are saying are wrong, and keep saying that it isnt true. That comes across as trying to annoy others on purpose...........another Gamespot no-no. I belive pixel counters from B3D, not Remedy PR, simple :)[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]
[QUOTE="sayonara89"] It doesn't matter for the gameplay/story/audio quality, game could score AAAAE *. But it matters for the "graphikz king" contender, it can't be sub-hd. * - MGS4 res is 1024x768 with TAAx2 ;)sayonara89
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
Lems always bashed MGS4 graphics :roll: It wasn't graphics king in 2008, but it's still great looking console game. Alan Wake can't be compared to GOW3/K2/U2 and even GeOW2 becouse it runs in almost SD resolution (720x576/720x480 is SD).
}alan wake CAN easily be compared to UC2 and GOW 3, your theory about sub HD games not looking as good as HD games is rubbishIt's 720p, it's those germans with there crappy hardware..deleterguywhat?
i think its another problem.
[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]
Lets not forget that MGS4, a sub-HD game, beat out Crysis in Graphics that year :wink: You know, that award that cows just love to remind people about?
Oh, and Ive seen plenty of people talk about how amazing MGS4s graphics are in the few months Ive been here, and the game is 2 years old. I can only imagine the amount of graphics talk it got around release.
Not bad for a sub-HD game, eh? Pity its a different story for Alan Wake though, it just has to be disqualified from any kind of graphics talk because theres a possibility it might be sub-HD and therefore nothing great when it comes to graphics.
delta3074
Lems always bashed MGS4 graphics :roll: It wasn't graphics king in 2008, but it's still great looking console game. Alan Wake can't be compared to GOW3/K2/U2 and even GeOW2 becouse it runs in almost SD resolution (720x576/720x480 is SD).
}alan wake CAN easily be compared to UC2 and GOW 3, your theory about sub HD games not looking as good as HD games is rubbish Hah, they can look as good but they don't render as much on the screen, so they can't be comparable. PS3 version of Ghost Busters before the patch had 960x540 resolution, AW can be compared to that :P[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="sayonara89"] It still way higher resolution than 960x540. Pixel counters from B3D are never wrong, thanks to them you know that MGS4/Halo 3/ GTA4 PS3/ Haze/ SCC are sub-hhd :roll:sayonara89B3D didnt do Alan Wake, a German site did it with their own vid-cap equipment. It was just POSTED on neogaf :P B3D pixel counters agreed to MD post ;) dude how many sources do you need to confirm that AW is 720p? Remedy and loads of preview sites state that it is 720p. "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved. As has said before Videogameszone and Gamepro both released footage without approval and due to the fact that we don't know how many compressions their videos went through or what process they took it's best not to use those videos as sources. " if remedy was a liar then wouldn't they have told us that thier cutscenes are in engine rather than a mix of in engine with CGI? and 960x540 is one heck of a crazy resolution. those pics look terrible compared to the vids the vids are crisp clear in 720p and many preview confirmed it, so why are you sticking to one source when loads of credible sources say other wise?
I belive pixel counters from B3D, not Remedy PR, simple :) Except its not B3D pixel counters, its a German site that used their own video capture software ant only captures at 960x540. Beyond 3D uses true HD video capture. Like i said, actually read the links instead of just ignoring them and posting stuff trying to annoy others. wonder what he'll say now.[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Dude, are you just ignoring the links posted here? That is considered trolling you know. You cant just keep ignoring the links proving what you are saying are wrong, and keep saying that it isnt true. That comes across as trying to annoy others on purpose...........another Gamespot no-no.navyguy21
[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]B3D didnt do Alan Wake, a German site did it with their own vid-cap equipment. It was just POSTED on neogaf :Pnavyguy21B3D pixel counters agreed to MD post ;) Link? Because that did not happen. And dont link to that thread because i have read the entire thread because i have an account there. So link or thats BS :)
I posted this some time ago
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421736&postcount=1595
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421739&postcount=472
You can keep teling yourself that this game native res is 1280x720 but this isn't true :)
I still can't wait, either cows or lems will be owned next month when arguing res.
540p=Cows win
720p=Lems win
I love SW.:D
its looking more towards lems though. 540p is being disproved right now. lets just wait for sayonara to post again, his rebuttal will be intresing.I posted this some time ago
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421736&postcount=1595
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421739&postcount=472
You can keep teling yourself that this game native res is 1280x720 but this isn't true :)
sayonara89
Well its basically those quotes vs this quote. I would think that its best to wait for a while before jumping to conclusions...
K2 framebuufer is 1280x720/QAAx2, there is second (1/4 resolution) FB for some effects.Mabey it has post processing effects that are sub HD ala KZ2.
vaderhater
yeah... really... if M$ wasn't so greedy and would let Remedy actually make the PC version this wouldn't be an issue. Gamers should sue M$ for their lies about DX10 and Vista... How many gamers seen those DX10 bullshots M$ was throwing around of Alan Wake to get people on board with vista? Then they cancel the PC version after their next OS is out... lol... It's just messed up.i can haz pc version meow?
88mphSlayer
[QUOTE="sayonara89"]
I posted this some time ago
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421736&postcount=1595
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421739&postcount=472
You can keep teling yourself that this game native res is 1280x720 but this isn't true :)
alextherussian
Well its basically those quotes vs this quote. I would think that its best to wait for a while before jumping to conclusions...
"Community Manager"
And he don't confirmed that game NATIVE res is 1280x720.
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]K2 framebuufer is 1280x720/QAAx2, there is second (1/4 resolution) FB for some effects.For all effects....then those are scaled up to match the resolution of the game. Its the effects which make it look so good. Are we to discount the game for that as well?Mabey it has post processing effects that are sub HD ala KZ2.
sayonara89
Link? Because that did not happen. And dont link to that thread because i have read the entire thread because i have an account there. So link or thats BS :)[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="sayonara89"] B3D pixel counters agreed to MD post ;)sayonara89
I posted this some time ago
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421736&postcount=1595
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421739&postcount=472
You can keep teling yourself that this game native res is 1280x720 but this isn't true :)
the first comment is not entirely true, video compression CAN change the reso;ution of a game if there is downsampling involvedK2 framebuufer is 1280x720/QAAx2, there is second (1/4 resolution) FB for some effects.For all effects....then those are scaled up to match the resolution of the game. Its the effects which make it look so good. Are we to discount the game for that as well?[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]
Mabey it has post processing effects that are sub HD ala KZ2.
vaderhater
Not all, only DOF, OMB and particles are rendered in this second FB, rest is rendered in 1280x720.
[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] Link? Because that did not happen. And dont link to that thread because i have read the entire thread because i have an account there. So link or thats BS :)delta3074
I posted this some time ago
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421736&postcount=1595
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1421739&postcount=472
You can keep teling yourself that this game native res is 1280x720 but this isn't true :)
the first comment is not entirely true, video compression CAN change the reso;ution of a game if there is downsampling involved Tell this to Quaz51, really. He is the pixel counter, not you or me.K2 framebuufer is 1280x720/QAAx2, there is second (1/4 resolution) FB for some effects.For all effects....then those are scaled up to match the resolution of the game. Its the effects which make it look so good. Are we to discount the game for that as well? Heh, there is much more than effects that makes KZ2 look so damn good.[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]
Mabey it has post processing effects that are sub HD ala KZ2.
vaderhater
i can haz pc version meow?
yeah... really... if M$ wasn't so greedy and would let Remedy actually make the PC version this wouldn't be an issue. Gamers should sue M$ for their lies about DX10 and Vista... How many gamers seen those DX10 bullshots M$ was throwing around of Alan Wake to get people on board with vista? Then they cancel the PC version after their next OS is out... lol... It's just messed up. How is MS greedy? As fasr as I know, Sony has the most exclusives on their console, THAT'S greed. MGS4? Uncharted 2? Those games should be on the 360 too, but Sony ate them up, its MS turn now, suckers![QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]Yet it is the best looking console game right nowMkavanaugh77It really isn't, but it is good looking. It actually is, did you not watch the videos? Chutebox is right. This is not graphics king, but it looks good.
For all effects....then those are scaled up to match the resolution of the game. Its the effects which make it look so good. Are we to discount the game for that as well?[QUOTE="vaderhater"]
[QUOTE="sayonara89"] K2 framebuufer is 1280x720/QAAx2, there is second (1/4 resolution) FB for some effects.sayonara89
Not all, only DOF, OMB and particles are rendered in this second FB, rest is rendered in 1280x720.
So how would the game look without those effects?[QUOTE="sayonara89"]
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]For all effects....then those are scaled up to match the resolution of the game. Its the effects which make it look so good. Are we to discount the game for that as well?
vaderhater
Not all, only DOF, OMB and particles are rendered in this second FB, rest is rendered in 1280x720.
So how would the game look without those effects? There would be less blur, LOL :lol:Please Log In to post.
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