AMEN! The righteous graphic king has been crowned! (crysis2)

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#201 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

Mozelleple112

Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

Could we say denial?
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#202 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

What's really funny is that you keep bringing up vanilla, and if you actually applied that to Crysis 2 that would exclude DirectX11 since it was a patch and not included in the game.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Too bad it can't run on a 7800GT.

The way you prance around here singing joyous carols about Movie Gear Solid 4 is quite deceiving then.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]*bows to Crysis 2 graphics* Damn, that's some undeniable stuff right thereChubbyGuy40

It's quite deniable when the game looks like ass for most of the short-ass campaign.

UC2 running on PS3s graphics chip impressed GS staff more than SHattered Horizon did on a GTX 295. Relative graphics. Have you heard of the word 'relativity' ? Why don't you google it so you can stop being butthurt about PS3 exclusives always winning gfx awards.

Mozelleple112

Except that Gamespot has never kept the same definition for what technical awards mean. Last year, the excuse for Metro not winning (was it even nominated?) was that "it was most impressive per platform." This year, suddenly everyone is some kind of technical expert and per platform judgment is thrown out the window.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best game ever made, be it a "movie" or not. Its not my fault SW is too dumb to realize what true gamers and professional critics a like I have known for 3 years. if MGS4 was on PC, I'd be enjoying the same game with three times the graphics, and mods to make me play the GOAT another 1000 times..
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#203 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

04dcarraher

Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

Could we say denial?

No. But you can say bullshot.
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#204 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

Mozelleple112

Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

you're right, that's not even what it looks like. :lol:

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#205 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

KarateeeChop

Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

you're right, that's not even what it looks like. :lol:

Still looks awfully pretty.

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#206 ActicEdge
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Fuucking ridicoulous, overated graphics drizzled it shiitastic stealth shoot gamecrap as I like to call it.

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#207 The_Game21x
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I still think the game looks questionable unmodded.

DraugenCP
That. It's only with mods that Crysis 2 can top Battlefield 3 as far as I'm concerned. Vanilla Crysis 2 is pretty meh.
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#208 SaintWalrus
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http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/918/crysis22011122001061545.jpg

that can'T BE REAL!!

no way..

jesus H

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#209 mitu123
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

Mozelleple112

Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

A shot taken at native res is a bullshot?

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#210 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Stop with the bullshots (UC3) it looks nothing like that.

Mozelleple112

Could we say denial?

No. But you can say bullshot.

Im sure if someone screencapped MGS4 too it would look crap. screenshots are always S**t

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#211 ChubbyGuy40
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Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best game ever made, be it a "movie" or not. Its not my fault SW is too dumb to realize what true gamers and professional critics a like I have known for 3 years. if MGS4 was on PC, I'd be enjoying the same game with three times the graphics, and mods to make me play the GOAT another 1000 times..Mozelleple112

You have to have played more than one game to call MGS4 "best game ever." The fact that you even dare call MGS4 a game is an insult to the entire industry.

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#212 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]so friggin what? in this case it's the truth , neither console has games that can touch any game on the PC that runs in DX11 and that's a fact

console games run at DX9c tops, UC3 is the best looking game on consoles but modern PC's running DX 11 make them look about as powerful as pocket calculators

i have seen nothing on consoles that comes remotely close to BF3 and Crysis 2 in DX 11, there is so much detail in games running on DX11 it's insane

i am primarily a 360 gamer and i am not a graphics w**** by any account but i am not blind mate and it's pretty obvious that crysis 2 on PC wipes the floor with anything on consoles when it comes to graphics, gameplay is a different matter but this thread is about technical graphics.ChubbyGuy40

The excuse Gamespot's staff gave us is, yes it backlast was that huge, was that it what the game brought to the platform. Not what actually had the best-of-the-best.

Not true at all. One, console games don't abide to DirectX variations. Secondly, consoles used some more advanced features found in later variations of DirectX, such as tessellation, deferred shading, and more.

Yeah, no. That small "detail" is nothing and you know it. Developers still aren't truly utilizing DX11. We won't see it for awhile I'm guessing until games only support DX11. I agree nothing comes close to BF3 on consoles, or Crysis 2 (on a purely technical scale,) but Crysis 2 was a freakin' console port and Battlefield 3 got held back by console development again. (EA wanted it out this year instead of next, thus they switched from PC to console earlier this year.)

It took performance and utilization into account as well, which Crysis 2 DX11 sucks balls in. It uses some elements well, but then it completely falls flat on its ugly face in others. I'm a pretty vocal hermit, so I'm not bashing PC.

To a certain extent, NVIDIA RSX hardware design still follows DX9c limitations e.g. lack of HDR FP + MSAA capability, lack of 3DC+ texture compression hardware support.

Some of NVIDIA Geforce 7/RSX's hardware features not are not sustainable in DX9c e.g. issues with full 32bit FP compute. NVIDIA Geforce 7/RSX is not best hardware for sustained DX9c performance.

Deferred shading can be run on DX9c e.g. Unreal Engine 3.

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#213 GameFan1983
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oh i'm sorry, it's crytek and GS' fault when a A+ grade retard like you can't tell the difference between tessed and none tessed surface(or too dumb to figure out how to make it work) and it's only 1 of hindered features that come with DX11. thanks god my taste is different than this weirdo.

ChubbyGuy40

If being certified as a mentally handicapped person means not wetting myself over a minor difference, then mark me down as their next poster child in search for the cure.

Tessellation is so great. It's a great thing they tessellated water underneath the city that we can't see. Don't know how it would've looked so great without that.

LOL! you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

texture surface with tesselation off

texture surface with tesselation on!!


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#214 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

oh i'm sorry, it's crytek and GS' fault when a A+ grade retard like you can't tell the difference between tessed and none tessed surface(or too dumb to figure out how to make it work) and it's only 1 of hindered features that come with DX11. thanks god my taste is different than this weirdo.

GameFan1983

If being certified as a mentally handicapped person means not wetting myself over a minor difference, then mark me down as their next poster child in search for the cure.

Tessellation is so great. It's a great thing they tessellated water underneath the city that we can't see. Don't know how it would've looked so great without that.

LOL! you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

texture surface with tesselation off

texture surface with tesselation on!!

Pics of the ground tire tracks are using POM, not tesselation.

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#215 ChubbyGuy40
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LOL!you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

GameFan1983

The ground isn't tessellated you f*cking idiot. Of course you don't know that going by your numerous, idiotic statements.

Please tell me what tessellation does. Apparently posting pictures of crap that was possible in Crysis 1 isn't helping.

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#216 arto1223
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Personally I think BF3 looks better

parkurtommo

Same. I just can't help but let BF3's larger scale and better physics influence my opinion.

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#217 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Yes, the game that thinks POM is a DX11 feature is really different from the DX9 version. How could we have ever praised the game if we didn't get those few more tessellated rocks!? Or those tessellated walls that have no difference from their non-tessellated versions?

Good thing those gods over at Crytek blessed that console port with a very late and tacked on feature. I don't know how else I would've been able to finish the game.

topgunmv

you can't tell the difference between tessed and none tessed surface

" none-Tessed"

"Tessed"

This is what the wireframe looks like in the tessellated version:

Roughly a triangle per pixel in many places. Know what the difference between the two is, other than the tessellated one tanking the framerate?

The little round hook on top.

the idea behind tessellation is to create space between geometry , break down polygons into sectors, so artists and 3d modelers are able to create a complex realistic image rather than a flat surface, the most obvious example are uneven objects such as rocks, brick walls, rounded objects, I don't understand what your frame wire of a road block has anything to do with tessellation.

the only reason the road block only has the round hook poped out only because...... that's what road block looks like in real life, it's pointless to create pop up geometry on road block surface to make it look less real than it is in real life. btw, tessallation is more about geometry less on polygons, so save your frame wire none sense.

See above, first time in gaming history geometry could be as realistic as it gets by tessellation, of course, that's one of the many tricks dx11/ce3 bought to the table tessellation is the latest technology to replace dated bumper mapping, not only it's more power economic wise, it also increase realism in visual and as a matter of fact crysis2 did it the best, of course along with many other things.

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#218 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

If being certified as a mentally handicapped person means not wetting myself over a minor difference, then mark me down as their next poster child in search for the cure.

Tessellation is so great. It's a great thing they tessellated water underneath the city that we can't see. Don't know how it would've looked so great without that.

ferret-gamer

LOL! you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

texture surface with tesselation off

texture surface with tesselation on!!

Pics of the ground tire tracks are using POM, not tesselation.

tessellation are created to replace POM in the first place, in dx10 and dx9 where tessellation are not available, POM is the only choice, and answer to your question, yes the road texture was tesselled.

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#219 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

LOL!you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

ChubbyGuy40

The ground isn't tessellated you f*cking idiot. Of course you don't know that going by your numerous, idiotic statements.

Please tell me what tessellation does. Apparently posting pictures of crap that was possible in Crysis 1 isn't helping.

thank you for displaying your sky rocking stupidity once again for me to toy you around with :lol: yes it was tessellated. (you can never figure out anything on your own lol!)

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#220 ChubbyGuy40
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yes the road texture was tesselled.

GameFan1983

there was no question and it is not tessellated. It's POM, which according to tards at Crytek is a DX11 feature.

Keep saying Crysis 2 did tessellation the best. It really tells us how stupid you are.

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#221 ChubbyGuy40
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thank you for displaying your sky rocking stupidity once again for me to toy you around with :lol: yes it was tessellated. (you can never figure out anything on your own lol!)

GameFan1983

Tessellation isn't limited to DirectX, specifically DX11. Amazing how you don't even know what you're trying to defend.

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#222 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Do me a favor. You know the vending machines in Crysis 2? Go stare at one of those. Crysis 2 is a great looking game, but as a game touted for having the best graphics I was expecting it to have actual 3D objects rather than flat textures for crap like this:

ferret-gamer

I take that you don't have DX11 and high res pack installed, I looked pretty much every inch of crysis2 and there's no doubt in my mind that it nailed the best texture in the world hands down.

if you like stop in one spot and examine things in close detail, I recommend you go back to cyrsis1 and stare at a rock, grass and the road, it has no place to there's not a single thing in crysis1 that cryiss2 can't do and 90% technology found in cryiss2 that are completely out of crysis1. progressive DOF, noise mapping texture, dx11 tess and particles etc. it's not even a close contest.

There are still plenty of spots like that with the high res texture pack enabled, it makes some nice textures, but there are still plenty of crappy textures and decals in Crysis 2.

Also, noise mapping? I fail to see how some textures having noise in them really makes Crysis 2 more impressive.

inconsistant visual existed in every single game, name me one title and I can always find you a load of ugly spots(BF3, metro2033 moded GTAIV are no exceptions) the difference with crysis2 is, it offers most consistant visual I ever thought possible in a video game, in another words, it has far less ugly spots compare to any games available on the market(with my tweak, I didn't find any) moded or not.

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inconsistant visual existed in every single game, name me one title and I can always find you a load of ugly spots(BF3, metro2033 moded GTAIV are no exceptions) the difference with crysis2 is, it offers most consistant visual I ever thought possible in a video game, in another words, it has far less ugly spots compare to any games available on the market(with my tweak, I didn't find any) moded or not.

GameFan1983

That's easy. Just start the game and you already feel like vomiting. The ugliness is all over.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

LOL! you stupdity really is a league of its own. looks like you still don't have a clue of what tessellation is and what it does. I will save my breath with this cause I don't think you have enough brain cell in your skull to understand the literature.

texture surface with tesselation off

texture surface with tesselation on!!

GameFan1983

Pics of the ground tire tracks are using POM, not tesselation.

tessellation are created to replace POM in the first place, in dx10 and dx9 where tessellation are not available, POM is the only choice, and answer to your question, yes the road texture was tesselled.

I wasn't asking a question.
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#225 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

yes the road texture was tesselled.

ChubbyGuy40

there was no question and it is not tessellated. It's POM, which according to tards at Crytek is a DX11 feature.

Keep saying Crysis 2 did tessellation the best. It really tells us how stupid you are.

:lol: let's make this clear before I waste more breath on a worthless brain defect moron like you again.

1. you are the imbecile who tried to prove tessed texture and none tessed texture are identical, then it proved that you are a completely brainless fat moron on anything you tried to talk about

2. now you trying to change the subjects that you know nothing about by a wrong googled info and other poster's reference in attempt to make you look less an idiot, sorry fail again.

3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

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#226 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

inconsistant visual existed in every single game, name me one title and I can always find you a load of ugly spots(BF3, metro2033 moded GTAIV are no exceptions) the difference with crysis2 is, it offers most consistant visual I ever thought possible in a video game, in another words, it has far less ugly spots compare to any games available on the market(with my tweak, I didn't find any) moded or not.

ChubbyGuy40

That's easy. Just start the game and you already feel like vomiting. The ugliness is all over.

and the world need to care your idiotic opinion because? :?

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#227 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I actually wanted The Witcher 2 to win because it really is the best looking game. HOWEVER, Crysis 2 manages to pack in all of that detail in an amazingly large game. Now, the issue is that it isn't as large as the first Crysis, nor are all of the textures as good. So we're at a point in 2011 where the sequel to the best looking game of all time doesn't look as good as the best looking game of all time. I know, it's crazy. :P

mitu123

this got be the most outragous statement I have ever read, first TW2 looks fugly inside and out, it will never win a single graphic award in any sites or magainze whatsoever, mark my words for it now.

and what? crysis1's texture look better than crysis2? can I have some of what you are smoking? one inch crysis2's texture map > crysis + warhead's entire game and their mods combined, come back to me when you find anything from crysis look 1/10000 close to this, I double dare you.

Huh, I thought it looked good.

I'd give it mediocre at best, cause it's in 3rd person, you look everything from a long distance so you won't have the chance to examine the texture, geometry and other ugliness, it only gets uglier as you progress to later lvls, the particle effects are outstanding, DOF, night light, reflection etc, with them as modifier the any ugly visual can turn to instant alright looking. but put them aside TW2 doesn't have a lot to offer. and most of your views from the mountain are backdrop drawing.

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#228 ChubbyGuy40
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:lol: let's make this clear before I waste more breath on a worthless brain defect moron like you again.

1. you are the imbecilic who tried to prove tessed texture and none tessed texture are identical, then it proved that you are a completely brainless fat moron on anything you tried to talk about

2. now you trying to change the subjects that you know nothing about by a wrong googled info and other poster's reference in attempt to make you look less an idiot, sorry fail again.

3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

GameFan1983

1. I wasn't trying to prove anything. Sorry for obliterating any sort of pathetic argument of yours.

2. I'm not changing the subjects because I'm wrong. I'm right, you're right, you're a butthurt little idiot who can't accept being wrong on the internet.

3. So you're saying you know more than Crytek? F*cking idiot.

Oh by the way, what's an imbecilic? I do believe you mean imbecile.

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#229 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

:lol: let's make this clear before I waste more breath on a worthless brain defect moron like you again.

1. you are the imbecilic who tried to prove tessed texture and none tessed texture are identical, then it proved that you are a completely brainless fat moron on anything you tried to talk about

2. now you trying to change the subjects that you know nothing about by a wrong googled info and other poster's reference in attempt to make you look less an idiot, sorry fail again.

3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

ChubbyGuy40

1. I wasn't trying to prove anything. Sorry for obliterating any sort of pathetic argument of yours.

2. I'm not changing the subjects because I'm wrong. I'm right, you're right, you're a butthurt little idiot who can't accept being wrong on the internet.

3. So you're saying you know more than Crytek? F*cking idiot.

Oh by the way, what's an imbecilic? I do believe you mean imbecile.

lol! 1. oh for sure, see that post of yours and comparsion pics. 2. you were what lol!!!? it's sad your parent didn't swallow an aboration pill 3. no1 is better than crytek, perhaps you just failed to realize I was trying to educate you why you failed to see the relation between the two and why it was tessed.

I'm done toying a 40 year old fat virgin, now i will leave you to your WOW now :lol:

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lol! 1. oh for sure, see that post of yours and comparsion pics. 2. you were what lol!!!? it's sad your parent didn't swallow an aboration pill 3. no1 is better than crytek, perhaps you just failed to realize I was trying to educate you why you failed to see the relation between the two and why it was tessed.

I'm done toying a 40 year old fat virgin, now i will leave you to your WOW now :lol:

GameFan1983

1. My posts as well as others showing how useless tessellation is in Crysis 2.

2. You need to attend a basic english class. Your reading comprehension as well as grammar skills are remarkably horrid.

3. A lot of people are better than Crytek. Pretty graphics don't make a great game, and Crytek failed to deliver on both. You explained nothing and continue to blindly defend Crytek. Your as bad as saolin and his disturbing love for Microsoft.

You were toying a 40 year old, fat virgin? We seriously don't need to know what fetishes you get yourself off to.

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#231 GameFan1983
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UC3 fire, looks life pre 2004 based effects

Now this this is Crysis 2's textures

This is Crysis 2 with Crysis 1's texture assets installed.

04dcarraher

crysis1 texture :lol:

crysis2 texture

poor bullshot attempt is poor

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3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

GameFan1983

Crysis 2 uses POM for the tire tracks and many other materials. Just because they use tessellation for some materials, it doesn't mean they use it for everything.

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#233 GameFan1983
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

lol! 1. oh for sure, see that post of yours and comparsion pics. 2. you were what lol!!!? it's sad your parent didn't swallow an aboration pill 3. no1 is better than crytek, perhaps you just failed to realize I was trying to educate you why you failed to see the relation between the two and why it was tessed.

I'm done toying a 40 year old fat virgin, now i will leave you to your WOW now :lol:

ChubbyGuy40

1. My posts as well as others showing how useless tessellation is in Crysis 2.

2. You need to attend a basic english class. Your reading comprehension as well as grammar skills are remarkably horrid.

3. A lot of people are better than Crytek. Pretty graphics don't make a great game, and Crytek failed to deliver on both. You explained nothing and continue to blindly defend Crytek. Your as bad as saolin and his disturbing love for Microsoft.

You were toying a 40 year old, fat virgin? We seriously don't need to know what fetishes you get yourself off to.

1. you said in your last post "I wasn't trying to prove anything" and then this, you sir really just redefined the meaning of idiocy

2. I'm a Russian immigrant, without perfect English, I'm sure I live in a far wealthier life and screw better women than a fat virgin like you, and btw I speak 4 languages.

3. and yet we are talking about graphic, you don't have to confirm your stupidity over and over, just go play more WOW son. if you want prove any game out there are more technically more impressive than crysis2, simple name me a game, let's compare texture by texture, post processing by post processing let's see how far it gets you.

you don't see a fat virgin? maybe you forgot looking into the mirror today? :lol:

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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

ferret-gamer

Crysis 2 uses POM for the tire tracks and many other materials. Just because they use tessellation for some materials, it doesn't mean they use it for everything.

I never said crysis2 used tess for everything, POM is still more power economical wise at especially at same pattern objects, but when I see extra geometry I know it's tessed. I think we are getting to far off the topic.

The thing is crysis2 really is the best looking game out there, bar none.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

3. now to the subject, parallax mapping and tessellation are belong to the same technic, one actually creates extra geometry and one does not. in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry. now get it retard?

GameFan1983

Crysis 2 uses POM for the tire tracks and many other materials. Just because they use tessellation for some materials, it doesn't mean they use it for everything.

I never said crysis2 used tess for everything, POM is still more power econimic wise at same pattern objects, but when I see extra gemotery I know it's tessed. I think we are getting to far off the topic. The thing is crysis2 really is the best looking game out there, bar none.

POM is meant to give an illusion of geometry. You are mistaking that for actual geometry. The road is not tessellated. And back on topic. Crysis 2 is probably the most technically advanced game out overall, but it is not flawless and is matched or beaten in certain areas by many other games

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1. you said in your last post "I wasn't trying to prove anything" and then this, you sire really just redefined the meaning of idiocy

2. I'm a Russian immigrant, without perfect English, I'm sure I live in a far wealthier life and screw better women than a fat virgin like you, and btw I speak 4 languages.

3. and yet we are talking about graphic, you don't have to confirm your stupidity over and over, just go play more WOW son. if you want prove any game out there are more technically more impressive than crysis2, simple name me a game, let's compare texture by texture, post processing by post processing let's see how far it gets you.

you don't see a fat virgin? maybe you forgot looking into the mirror today? :lol:

GameFan1983

1. I'm not proving anything beyond how stupid you are.

2. herp derp I'm on teh internetz and can claim whatever I wantz. Speak 4 languages, master of none.

3. Pathetic attempts at insults are pathetic. You don't know that much about technology and neither do I. It'd be nothing more than an ePeen and Googling competition.

Why would I want to see the old, fat virgin you were just toying? It helps to read what you type.

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#237 Peredith
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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

inconsistant visual existed in every single game, name me one title and I can always find you a load of ugly spots(BF3, metro2033 moded GTAIV are no exceptions) the difference with crysis2 is, it offers most consistant visual I ever thought possible in a video game, in another words, it has far less ugly spots compare to any games available on the market(with my tweak, I didn't find any) moded or not.

ChubbyGuy40

That's easy. Just start the game and you already feel like vomiting. The ugliness is all over.

Crysis 2 looks amazing, even unpatched. :?

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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Crysis 2 uses POM for the tire tracks and many other materials. Just because they use tessellation for some materials, it doesn't mean they use it for everything.

ferret-gamer

I never said crysis2 used tess for everything, POM is still more power econimic wise at same pattern objects, but when I see extra gemotery I know it's tessed. I think we are getting to far off the topic. The thing is crysis2 really is the best looking game out there, bar none.

POM is meant to give an illusion of geometry. You are mistaking that for actual geometry. The road is not tessellated. And back on topic. Crysis 2 is probably the most technically advanced game out overall, but it is not flawless and is matched or beaten in certain areas by many other games

that's what I said, Pom doesn't need creates extra geometry to make flat surface looks poping but tess creates new geometry.

anyhow, as you acknowledge crysis2 being the most technical advanced game overall then we don't have much to disagree about, yes I do admit there are games does certain things better than crysis2 but I'm talking about an overall scale. I believe GS editors were looking at that department too.

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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

1. you said in your last post "I wasn't trying to prove anything" and then this, you sire really just redefined the meaning of idiocy

2. I'm a Russian immigrant, without perfect English, I'm sure I live in a far wealthier life and screw better women than a fat virgin like you, and btw I speak 4 languages.

3. and yet we are talking about graphic, you don't have to confirm your stupidity over and over, just go play more WOW son. if you want prove any game out there are more technically more impressive than crysis2, simple name me a game, let's compare texture by texture, post processing by post processing let's see how far it gets you.

you don't see a fat virgin? maybe you forgot looking into the mirror today? :lol:

ChubbyGuy40

1. I'm not proving anything beyond how stupid you are.

2. herp derp I'm on teh internetz and can claim whatever I wantz. Speak 4 languages, master of none.

3. Pathetic attempts at insults are pathetic. You don't know that much about technology and neither do I. It'd be nothing more than an ePeen and Googling competition.

Why would I want to see the old, fat virgin you were just toying? It helps to read what you type.

1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

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#240 GameFan1983
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http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/918/crysis22011122001061545.jpg

that can'T BE REAL!!

no way..

jesus H

SaintWalrus

yup! that's how much crysis 2 owns ;)

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No need for desperation because the game's visuals speaks for itself. :|

[QUOTE="actionjunkie10"]Newsflash buddy: BOTH console versions of Crysis 2 are damn near 99.9% identical. So IF console crysis is your personal graphics king, then that means that the PS3 version is also! But the reality is that BOTH console versions of Crysis 2 are plagued by the same performance issues.actionjunkie10

Digital Foundry:

"There's little doubt that the Xbox 360 is the cleaner, crisper experience and for the most part it commands a small but significant frame-rate advantage and fewer little glitches"

"On balance, 360 has the edge in terms of visuals and general performance, but PS3 more than holds its own, bettering the Microsoft platform in some areas."

IGN:

"The PS3 version of Crysis 2 has particular idiosyncracies. After playing both console versions, and playing through the same set of levels multiple times on both consoles, it became clear to a number of editors at IGN that the PS3 version is lacking somewhat in comparison to the 360 version of the game. The game still looks great on PS3, but the framerate is less consistent, the resolution is lower (in the neighborhood of 10% lower than the Xbox 360 release), and certain graphical effects and some lighting appear dialed back. In layman's terms, there are more jagged edges in the PS3 version of the game, and things get choppy more often than its 360 counterpart, which hurts controller response. The 360 is not immune to this, it just doesn't happen as often."

I love how fanboys are forgetting all the performance issues that plague console crysis.actionjunkie10

Digital Foundry:

"Put simply, on certain stages, frame-rate varies rather drastically to the point where the game can feel almost unplayable. Thankfully these areas don't account for the majority of the gameplay by any stretch of the imagination"

I've beaten the game twice and only noticed a significant drop once! The game still runs smooth so stop with your nonsense exaggeration. Have you even played it on the 360? Now if the game played like Skyrim PS3 then you would have an argument but you really don't and are just grasping at straws to bash the game.


....but not only does U3 perform tons better then console crysis, U3 also looks better then console crysis TO BEGIN WITH.actionjunkie10

....in your opinion. Stop trying to state it as if it's a fact because it's not. To me....

This

doesn't look as impressive as this...

The Crysis 2 shot just looks cleaner to me. For cryin' out loud look at the nasty floor textures and jags in the UC3 pic. UC3 just has moments like this with poor AF mixed in with a pixelated, jaggy image. Seriously the color scheme and scenery really saves UC3 because when you look under the hood at things like aliasing, textures, AF, etc... it's not that impressive. Yes UC3 is uumm... pretty but I just think the level of detail in Crysis 2 is more impressive. And lets not ignore the pink elephant in the room and that's how UC3 is as linear as it gets relying on a heavy dose of set pieces, cinematics, cut scenes etc.. But even then it still has its moments where it just looks "messy" as in the screen above.

Some have stated how the game seems to play for you sometimes and I agree it does feel that way at times. But it's not just gamers that feel this way. There are some in the media that feel this way as well....

http://www.gamernode.com/the-failings-of-uncharted-3/

"There are many moments inUncharted 3that exist to drive the fiction to a place of resolution, and they are barely played at all. It's nearly impossible to screw up the key moments in the game by making a wrong turn or messing up the timing," Clark said. "When things go so badly that Nate ends up dead—that's all you. The developers are washing their hands of those moments. That never happened on their watch. They understand that you're doing your best; your best is just not good enough. You finish out the rest of the level, but it's not the same."'

The controller may be in your hands, Clark observed, "butUnchartedis directing your every move."

Like a film keeping the viewers' eyes where they need to be, our perception is narrowed. The game is caught in the shallow end of the pool, showing players how to swim. Because if we were to swim out into the deep end, we would see thatDrake's Deceptionhas nothing there."

So not only do I find the visuals of Crysis 2 on the 360 to be more impressive but also as an overall game considering how the game was designed. Crysis 2 is in no way shape or form an "open" game but it's levels are less linear with more broader playing levels.

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1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

GameFan1983

1. I'm not the one crying because he's wrong, can't accept he is wrong, can't read, and is using really poor grammar.

You're like that one troubled, asshoIe kid everyone knew in high school. It's still baffling to everyone how you managed to find the submit button.

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[QUOTE="actionjunkie10"]Somebody is a desperate lem!T-razor1

UC3 runs at 30fps, Crysis 1/2 on consoles fails to hold 15fps when a few things start shooting at you

UC3 wins, deal with it

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that's what I said, Pom doesn't need creates extra geometry to make flat surface looks poping but tess creates new geometry.

GameFan1983

Actually you did. Crysis 2 uses POM for tire tracks. This is what you stated, directly pulled from an earlier post.

"in crysis2's muddy road's case, it does has more geometry."

It uses POM, not tessellation. It's not creating anything.

anyhow, as you acknowledge crysis2 being the most technical advanced game overall then we don't have much to disagree about, yes I do admit there are games does certain things better than crysis2 but I'm talking about an overall scale. I believe GS editors were looking at that department too.

GameFan1983

I hope you do realize even if it was the most technically advanced, that doesn't mean it looks good by any merit.

GS editors weren't even taking scale into account from that article. No one except one person had any idea what they were talking about.

Crysis 2 looks amazing, even unpatched. :?

Peredith

It doesn't look amazing at all. I'd rather look at Wii games than Crysis 2 PC. Its night levels look good at times, but overall design and lack of any kind of artistic influence really makes it nothing more than a tech demo for CE3.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

1. you said in your last post "I wasn't trying to prove anything" and then this, you sire really just redefined the meaning of idiocy

2. I'm a Russian immigrant, without perfect English, I'm sure I live in a far wealthier life and screw better women than a fat virgin like you, and btw I speak 4 languages.

3. and yet we are talking about graphic, you don't have to confirm your stupidity over and over, just go play more WOW son. if you want prove any game out there are more technically more impressive than crysis2, simple name me a game, let's compare texture by texture, post processing by post processing let's see how far it gets you.

you don't see a fat virgin? maybe you forgot looking into the mirror today? :lol:

GameFan1983

1. I'm not proving anything beyond how stupid you are.

2. herp derp I'm on teh internetz and can claim whatever I wantz. Speak 4 languages, master of none.

3. Pathetic attempts at insults are pathetic. You don't know that much about technology and neither do I. It'd be nothing more than an ePeen and Googling competition.

Why would I want to see the old, fat virgin you were just toying? It helps to read what you type.

1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

i just gave this thread a quick reading and all i can say is: i didn't know they let special kids use the internet, you gotta be hands down the most wortless waste of oxygen in gamespot-

i do hope for your sake you are one of those kids wanting attention, because if you are a grown man you are downright sad, calling people "son" which is the patentet trademark of retards on the internet and the fact that you run to insult everyone who destroys your arguments or disagrees with you, sad fuking sad.

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[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="actionjunkie10"]Somebody is a desperate lem!HaloinventedFPS

UC3 runs at 30fps, Crysis 1/2 on consoles fails to hold 15fps when a few things start shooting at you

UC3 wins, deal with it

....deal with what? How does that change what I personally experienced when I played the game hands-on which was a smooth experience for me. Why don't you pay more attention to playing and enjoying the game (that is if you played it) instead of being a slave to numbers :|

....and once again from Digital Foundry:

"Put simply, on certain stages, frame-rate varies rather drastically to the point where the game can feel almost unplayable. Thankfully these areas don't account for the majority of the gameplay by any stretch of the imagination"

...so please cut the drama because the performance is not as big of deal as some of you try to make it out to be. And regardless it still doesn't change my stance and that is that I find Crysis 2 on the 360 to be more visually impressive. Cry more over someone's opinion lol.

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:lol: why are you guys even bothering with gamefan guy anymore? he obviously doesn't even understand half of what you're saying :P

Also unpatched Crysis 2 does not look amazing on PC. It had a lot of problems with bad textures and huge contrasts etc.

The Dx11 patch was great but they messed up because of how crysis 2 was created by putting water underneath the whole f***ing place that we don't even see. So your system crawls when playing it. Which is annoying because some people think once their system is struggling that means it must have awesome visuals. Which is not the case. It runs very poorly for what is being displayed especially since its so confined compared to its predecessor.

that's why I think BF3 is better, because it runs a hell of a lot better than C2 and what I see on screen is either better or at least equal to anything C2 does. But they both have faults and flaws like every game does.

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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

1. I'm not proving anything beyond how stupid you are.

2. herp derp I'm on teh internetz and can claim whatever I wantz. Speak 4 languages, master of none.

3. Pathetic attempts at insults are pathetic. You don't know that much about technology and neither do I. It'd be nothing more than an ePeen and Googling competition.

Why would I want to see the old, fat virgin you were just toying? It helps to read what you type.

Krelian-co

1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

i just gave this thread a quick reading and all i can say is: i didn't know they let special kids use the internet, you gotta be hands down the most wortless waste of oxygen in gamespot-

i do hope for your sake you are one of those kids wanting attention, because if you are a grown man you are downright sad, calling people "son" which is the patentet trademark of retards on the internet and the fact that you run to insult everyone who destroys your arguments or disagrees with you, sad fuking sad.

clam down, looks like I touched the nerve of many fat virgins WOW players. saying how immature insult is while you jump out with a direct insult. typical behavior of a basement camping nerd

make no mistake, crysis2 is picked by GS as best technical graphic of 2011, not just my opinion nor my argument, it is you sour grapes can't accept the very fact and keep marching forward with your unbelievable moronic personal fact, putting out laughable analogy, while you understand 0 about dx11 features that wrapped in crysis2 and why it won

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[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

ChubbyGuy40

1. I'm not the one crying because he's wrong, can't accept he is wrong, can't read, and is using really poor grammar.

You're like that one troubled, asshoIe kid everyone knew in high school. It's still baffling to everyone how you managed to find the submit button.

you got schooled all along ever since you opened your mouth.

1. raging complain about GS pro's decision and want replace it with your mere opinion, 2. claims tessed and none tessed texture look identical and then denied back and forth after you got schooled. 3. still marching on with your version of "best looking" game that actually look like a cattle's butt that no1 else would believe to deserve to be nominated. Aka the witcher2

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

1. "waah!! but I'm not an idiot! bla bla bla" :lol:

son, I'm done owning you, go grab another hotdog and keep playing WOW with your bloody elf girlfriend. I won't wasting time on you anymore.

GameFan1983

1. I'm not the one crying because he's wrong, can't accept he is wrong, can't read, and is using really poor grammar.

You're like that one troubled, asshoIe kid everyone knew in high school. It's still baffling to everyone how you managed to find the submit button.

you got schooled all along ever since you opened your mouth.

1. raging complain about GS pro's decision and want replace it with your mere opinion, 2. claims tessed and none tessed texture look identical and then denied back and forth after you got schooled. 3. still marching on with your version of "best looking" game that actually look like a cattle's butt that no1 else would believe to deserve to be nominated. Aka the witcher2

Dude I can't even understand what you're trying to say half the time, your sentences and grammar are all over the place. Also if you think the witcher 2 looks bad then you seriously need your eyes checked. Who cares about nominations and awards, can't you use your own brain? or do you always have to rely on what pundits say?