An End the Crappy Wii graphics debates.

[QUOTE="justdog11"]

If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

KeyWii

Escapism....

[QUOTE="justdog11"]

If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

KeyWii

The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:tocool340

Do you want me to C&P?

[QUOTE="tocool340"]The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:Kev_Unreal

Do you want me to C&P?

Yes,that would be appreciated.The link won't work for me,either........

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

[QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

tocool340

The fact you own a PS2 proves my point.

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"]The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:VGobbsesser

Do you want me to C&P?

Yes,that would be appreciated.The link won't work for me,either........

[QUOTE="justdog11"]

If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

KeyWii

OMG, I am actually amazed by you this time. I totally agree with you. If I shotgun a friend in real life I am afraid he wont respawn. Thats why we play videogames, to scape the rules of reality, not to stare at crappy Wii graphics.

[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

The fact you own a PS2 proves my point.

[QUOTE="tocool340"]The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:VGobbsesser

Yeah,it won't work for me,either.......

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]Do you want me to C&P?Kev_Unreal

Thank you.:DThat certainly proved some haters wrong..........

[QUOTE="XTy"][QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

lzorro

The fact you own a PS2 proves my point.

how? if you own a mountain dew but drink coca cola does that make you a mountain dew fanboy?

if he didn't play his ps2(which i sold mine after a year for a xbox) then it really is non-existent in his house and he prefered his GC.

[QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

VGobbsesser

Hello,I'm VGobbsessor.I'm a proud Wii and DS owner,and I am perfectly happy with my Wii.I don't plan to buy a 360 or PS3 or any other console unless there are enough games that I want on them,but unfortunately,it doesn't seem like that will happen.The Wii is a great primary console,and I am perfectly satisfied.

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="justdog11"]

If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

bloodychimp

[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

The fact you own a PS2 proves my point.

How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...MyopicCanadian

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...darth-pyschosis

I saw that crappy link before, and all the guy does is point at other systems and goes, "See, if they can do it, Wii can do it!" Just show me the Wii games or you be quiet before you tell me to shut up. It's March 2007 and this is what Wii is doing:flamingschmoes2

Pretty much you can't read?...... right?

I saw that crappy link before, and all the guy does is point at other systems and goes, "See, if they can do it, Wii can do it!" Just show me the Wii games or you be quiet before you tell me to shut up. It's March 2007 and this is what Wii is doing: flamingschmoes2

So are you saying that, that is the best screenshot for any game on the Wii that displays it's graphical abilities? I won't beable to find anything better than that no matter how long I searched? Since what you said was "this is what the Wii is doing".

So that must be the peak of the Wii as far as we know...according to you. Tell me, yes or no, and we'll see if your right.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...MyopicCanadian

But it's a good thing graphics isn't the only determining factor when it comes to the quality of the game.

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"][QUOTE="VGobbsesser"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]Do you want me to C&P?VGobbsesser

Thank you.:DThat certainly proved some haters wrong..........

Well, the proof is in the pudding.  When the wii stops making games look like wing island, mabye i'll believe that guy.agentfred

its developrs wii just sits there :|

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...88Ghost89

But it's a good thing graphics isn't the only determining factor when it comes to the quality of the game.

[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"]I saw that crappy link before, and all the guy does is point at other systems and goes, "See, if they can do it, Wii can do it!" Just show me the Wii games or you be quiet before you tell me to shut up. It's March 2007 and this is what Wii is doing: 88Ghost89

So are you saying that, that is the best screenshot for any game on the Wii that displays it's graphical abilities? I won't beable to find anything better than that no matter how long I searched? Since what you said was "this is what the Wii is doing".

So that must be the peak of the Wii as far as we know...according to you. Tell me, yes or no, and we'll see if your right.

Ownage Approved.

You can't defend something that was intentionally designed as a cheap gimmicy alternative.  The hardware of Wii cannot dream of facilitating a forth of the games on the market, yet alone even dream of being able to process some of the DX10 stuff that will come out over the next few years.  Nintendo took the low road, and sold Nintendo fans out in the same process. FoamingPanda

Funny considering the PS3 and 360 will never be able to compete with DirectX 10 video cards on PC once it is fully utilized in games within the next couple of years. The Gamecube had some amazing looking games during its lifespan, the Star Wars games were a prime example. Looking at Metroid Prime 3 videos, I can safely say that the Wii is going to easily top the GC in terms of graphical performance. GC titles looked great and the Wii will too once games get rolling and the hardware is fully utilized

So are you saying that, that is the best screenshot for any game on the Wii that displays it's graphical abilities? I won't beable to find anything better than that no matter how long I searched? Since what you said was "this is what the Wii is doing".

So that must be the peak of the Wii as far as we know...according to you. Tell me, yes or no, and we'll see if your right.

88Ghost89

[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

The fact you own a PS2 proves my point.

the fact is that it dosent prove anything at all

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...MyopicCanadian

But it's a good thing graphics isn't the only determining factor when it comes to the quality of the game.

Right, they compliment any game. But the fact that SMG looks to be better than anything last gen is a good thing. Even if it isn't as good as 360 and PS3, doesn't mean it's horrible. Cause if it is, I wonder how we made it threw last gen.

I just find it silly that every gen we say that last gen games looked like caca. When the super nintendo was out we were like omg teh nes is teh ugly. With the N64, omg teh snes looks so bad. And so on and so on.

Our expectations gets higher and higher every gen, and the visuals that made our jaws drop the gen before, makes us vomit now. Once we get past photo realism and get into high-def photo realism. The life we see through our own eyes will look bad and we will all have to kill ourselves.

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]

So are you saying that, that is the best screenshot for any game on the Wii that displays it's graphical abilities? I won't beable to find anything better than that no matter how long I searched? Since what you said was "this is what the Wii is doing".

So that must be the peak of the Wii as far as we know...according to you. Tell me, yes or no, and we'll see if your right.

metalmonkey268

Actually, he didn't say that at all. He said that it's March 2007, and that is what the Wii is doing. Which is correct, the game is running on the Wii. Nowhere does he say that it's the peak of the Wii's graphical capabilities. You may be able to find something that looks better, but that image is just an example of some of the sub-par graphical showcases that we are given by developers.

Every system has sub-par games, why should they be brought out to show "what the system is doing". The best visuals should be the showcase, or atleast the average. I mean...It would be harder to find a game that looked worse than that...

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="88Ghost89"]

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]How does this end anything? The Wii's graphics are still terrible compared to 360, PS3 and PC. Congratulations, the Wii has more processing power than last-gen. That must've been tough to accomplish...88Ghost89

But it's a good thing graphics isn't the only determining factor when it comes to the quality of the game.

Right, they compliment any game. But the fact that SMG looks to be better than anything last gen is a good thing. Even if it isn't as good as 360 and PS3, doesn't mean it's horrible. Cause if it is, I wonder how we made it threw last gen.

I just find it silly that every gen we say that last gen games looked like caca. When the super nintendo was out we were like omg teh nes is teh ugly. With the N64, omg teh snes looks so bad. And so on and so on.

Our expectations gets higher and higher every gen, and the visuals that made our jaws drop the gen before, makes us vomit now. Once we get past photo realism and get into high-def photo realism. The life we see through our own eyes will look bad and we will all have to kill ourselves.

this is just the beginning of it. look at sonic. the 1st built from the ground up wii game. mario galaxy will be 60 fps and look better than anything on gc, xbox, ps2.

and that last one was for fun

so mr.flaming schmoes was saying something right?

isn't that screenshot from shrek the third? a game that is a movie game (developers don't care about movie game graphics) that hasn't even been released yet? i mean it looks like shrek.

Notice all the graphics whores here are really jumping around the main issue. The reason why Wii has not shown alot of great looking games is that Nintendo had to rush the devs. All launch games started off with GC upgraded dev kits so they cant look like much. Then there were lazy devs who just ported old games. Then we are just starting to see some great looking games like Sonic and SSX. These are not even the tip of the ice berg but they are respectable.coonana

The Wii bashers are going to be crawling all over this thread like cockroaches, but I guess you gotta repost whats been posted again and again since there are some people out there that just can't grasp that graphics will improve over time on the Wii.

i can't believe it! flaming schmoes posted a shrek 3rd pic!!!!!!!!!!!

great example of graphics buddy, gee i wonder if it looks this bad on all the other platforms it'll be on!

seriously, you try to show up a systems graphics and you show a friggin' shrek pic?

credibility= -1000

i can't believe it! flaming schmoes posted a shrek 3rd pic!!!!!!!!!!!

great example of graphics buddy, gee i wonder if it looks this bad on all the other platforms it'll be on!

seriously, you try to show up a systems graphics and you show a friggin' shrek pic?

credibility= -1000

darth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="coonana"]Notice all the graphics whores here are really jumping around the main issue. The reason why Wii has not shown alot of great looking games is that Nintendo had to rush the devs. All launch games started off with GC upgraded dev kits so they cant look like much. Then there were lazy devs who just ported old games. Then we are just starting to see some great looking games like Sonic and SSX. These are not even the tip of the ice berg but they are respectable.MyopicCanadian

Well they were rushed to get the games out for launch. Red Steel could have been so much better if they had more time. This summer will be a good time to see games with more time put into them. Every system has this.

[QUOTE="coonana"]Notice all the graphics whores here are really jumping around the main issue. The reason why Wii has not shown alot of great looking games is that Nintendo had to rush the devs. All launch games started off with GC upgraded dev kits so they cant look like much. Then there were lazy devs who just ported old games. Then we are just starting to see some great looking games like Sonic and SSX. These are not even the tip of the ice berg but they are respectable.MyopicCanadian

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

darth-pyschosis

I think everyone on this forum knows that Wii's hardware is more powerful than Xbox, GC, PS2...What still remains to be seen is a Wii game that has better graphics than the most graphically intense Xbox games...Until I see a game that is better, I will keep on bashing Wii's graphics