Another NX Rumor: More Powerful Than PS4, Multiple Controller Types, HDMI 2.0a/4K, No Handheld, Console Name, More

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#301 Techhog89
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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:

This is blatant intellectual dishonesty.

You and I both know Ubisoft butchered their engine for the PS4. They spent all of their time optimizing on the Xbone and did a half-assed port on the PS4 because Microsoft paid them off. Even when Ubisoft decreased the amount of NPCs in the PS4 version of Parity Creed Unity, the PS4 still had the same exact FPS problems, meaning the problem with Ubisoft's engine wasn't due to power but due to Ubisoft not spending any effort on PS4 compatibility. I'm willing to bet the PS4 team only had 2-3 develops while the Xbone team had an entire army (Read about how The Crew was ported to the PS4).

How sad is it that you need an army of people to compete with 2-3 people? Cerny's genius spreads even to other companies.

I changed my mind. You are mildly entertaining.

Entertaining because I speak facts?

Everything I say is logical and backed by facts.

Despite how genius the PS4 is, the entire industry has been treating it like crap because they're all pro-Microsoft.

Review sites have been overtly harsh on PS4 exclusives while putting on their kiddie gloves when reviewing Xbone exclusives.

Game developers put in hundreds of millions of dollars and an army of engineers optimizing for the Xbone while putting 2 interns in charge of PS4 development (Look up The Crew development story from DF).

It's disgusting how pro-Xbox the industry is. The fact is, all of these companies want a gaming industry where Xbox is the standard. It makes it easier for Microsoft to shove their anti-consumer policies and enrich themselves and the developers at the expense of gamers.

SONY is the ethical lone wolf in the industry going up against a giant, malicious empire. Don't fall for Microsoft's "pro-gamer" PR stunts. They just want to claw back into relevance so they can push more anti-gamer BS.

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#302  Edited By ronvalencia
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@notafanboy said:
@ronvalencia said:

My graph is multi-threaded with cloth simulation(physics) not just texture generation.

Cloth simulation benchmark comes from Ubisoft.

This is blatant intellectual dishonesty.

You and I both know Ubisoft butchered their engine for the PS4. They spent all of their time optimizing on the Xbone and did a half-assed port on the PS4 because Microsoft paid them off. Even when Ubisoft decreased the amount of NPCs in the PS4 version of Parity Creed Unity, the PS4 still had the same exact FPS problems, meaning the problem with Ubisoft's engine wasn't due to lack of CPU power but due to Ubisoft's half-assed code because they did not spend any effort on PS4 compatibility. I'm willing to bet the PS4 team only had 2-3 developers while the Xbone team had an entire army (Read about how The Crew was ported to the PS4).

How sad is it that you need an army of people to compete with 2-3 people? Cerny's genius spreads even to other companies.

This is blatant intellectual dishonesty.

You should know texture generation with high memory streaming access is different from physics calculation with localized high on-chip cache access workloads.

Only noob like you wouldn't know the difference between workload types.

Developing 3D engine is far more complex than developing texture plugin i.e. Allegorithmic's Substance Engine plugin.

At least Ubisoft can program their cloth physics with GpGPU method not sticking with f**king CPU.

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@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

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#305  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. Going by my 30 years of professional experience in the logistics industry and in financial hedging electronic commodities, I know that the NX won't be as strong as the current PS4. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a paid-off Nintendo shill.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

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#306 Techhog89
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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

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#307  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

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#308 MonsieurX
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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

*yawn*

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#309 Techhog89
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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

Weaker in every way or just the GPU?

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#310 NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

Weaker in every way or just the GPU?

It'll definitely have a weaker GPU.

The CPU and RAM are up for debate. I feel Nintendo stole SONY's 8 GB GDDR5 UMA technology and used the saved money on investing in a better CPU.

I want SONY to take Nintendo to the slammers for intellectual property theft. I almost feel like wanting to skip this year's E3 because seeing Nintendo announce 8 GB GDDR5 UMA will make my blood boil. It's fucking insane how people can just steal someone's hard work and get away with it.

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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

Weaker in every way or just the GPU?

It'll definitely have a weaker GPU.

The CPU and RAM are up for debate. I feel Nintendo stole SONY's 8 GB GDDR5 UMA technology and used the saved money on investing in a better CPU.

I want SONY to take Nintendo to the slammers for intellectual property theft. I almost feel like wanting to skip this year's E3 because seeing Nintendo announce 8 GB GDDR5 UMA will make my blood boil. It's fucking insane how people can just steal someone's hard work and get away with it.

Yeah, that would be like Sony copying the Wii Remote and Nunchuck, or using a handheld as a controller!

wait

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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a Nintendo executive.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

I want it to be real just to see what your excuse will be. What are you expecting from NX, out of curiosity?

Considering Nintendo doesn't have anyone as smart as Cerny and as Nintendo isn't even confident about their machine (Ordering less than SONY, so suppliers are charging through the roof for parts), I expect something slightly stronger than the Xbone but noticeably weaker than the PS4.

The PS4 was designed by a genius and benefits from mass economies of scale. You can't beat something like that unless you have a man smarter than the smartest man in the world (Impossible) and have a console selling better than the PS4 (Also impossible).

I found out that rumor was fake before you posted. It was a lame April fools joke that lasted for 2 weeks. I should delete the post.

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#313  Edited By ronvalencia
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@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

*yawn*

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/12/rumour-nintendo-nx-has-12gb-ram/

Already confirmed fake.

New stuff from NeoGAF (verified): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200827598&postcount=5735

Basically, it's an improvement over PS4 in every way (CPU, GPU, and RAM (@notafanboy is having a seizure)) and is "noticeably" more powerful, most likely in-line with the estimated CPU difference (15-30%; 30% is about the same as the gap between XBO and PS4). Devs say that it's easy to develop for compared to past Nintendo hardware (another thing that we've heard before). He lists the four Wii U ports as well. Nobody knows anything about the handheld, and he doesn't say what the gimmick is. However, another user confirmed that there is a gimmick, so this won't be a cheap console if everything here is true. Also, he's not sure if it's ARM or x86, but most signs say x86... other than something said by a Nintendo employee. Porting from ARM to x86 is easy, but the other way around is more difficult (though still pretty easy).

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What a complete load of horsecrap.

Let's just wait 2 months until E3 and see what Nintendo has under their sleeves. Going by my 30 years of professional experience in the logistics industry and in financial hedging electronic commodities, I know that the NX won't be as strong as the current PS4. This is a pathetic attempt from Nintendo to generate buzz for their upcoming flop of a machine. I bet that poster is a paid-off Nintendo shill.

Both Nintendo and MS are scared out of their minds about the SONY dominance this gen. We may enter a period where almost all games are PS exclusive, and that scares the shit out of everyone.

PS4K has 2X GPU over the current PS4's GPU.

IF NX is 30 to 40 percent better than PS4(i.e. same gap between XBO vs PS4), PS4K will beat NX.

Sony doesn't own 8 GB GDDR5 UMA.

PS4's SoC that supports 8 GB GDDR5 UMA is copyright to AMD.