Another WOW OMG KZ2 Destructibility Thread (cool pics inside) (56k go away )

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#151 TREAL_Since
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i'm more curious to see if the gambling system gets exploited, and how fast it gets exploited. more than anything i want a system like that in a game where you can trust the leaderboards and have faith in the statistics.

3picuri3

I see your concern with the gambling system. But I think it's designed in a way where you wouldn't want to exploit it.

The only way I can see it being exploited is if:
1.) Two clans know each other or one clan separates into 2 clans
2.) One clan decides to purposely lose a match in order to give the other clan their VP.

Now, the problem with this is that when you lose a match you lose your gambled VP. The losing team doesn't stay on neutral ground. It's a complete negative for one clan and a complete positive for the other. In the end it will be like playing catch. Back and forward with no true progression.

Of course you could say that one clan will ONLY lose matches in order to benefit the other clan. But eventually the clan that loses on purpose will run out of VP to gamble (unlike Halo 3 if you are ranked low you can still help someone get a higher rank).

In the end it could just be too much of a hassle. Finding 16 people that would agree to do this would be frustrating on its own (besides who would want to make two clans and manage two 16 or 8 player teams in order to do this?). It's not like Halo 3 where just 2 people can exploit it. We will see though.

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#152 adizorz
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all i can say is that i hope that the gameplay is as good as the graphics, i remeber reading about hideo kojima playing killzone 2, he was talking about the motion controls and how they are put into the game, and how its just sort of an unexpected and silly adittion to the game. then again he wanted mgs4 to be ten times better than it is so maybe the salt shaker is in order
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#153 HAZE-Unit
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LMAO at the guy ( 3 something ) who dislikes good graphics and destructibility effects, the gameplay, the idea and features without even touching the controller and actually playing it.

The game looks stunning.

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#154 tmntPunchout
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Right now, I have like no hype for this game since I've been so into my other PS3/360 games. I'm hoping it's good though because I do not want to experience a KZ1 again.
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#155 ReaperV7
Member since 2008 • 6756 Posts

there are now three killzone 2 threads on the front page of system wars, a videogame forum

a **** sequel to a **** flop from **** developers

MarloStanfield

did guerrilla kill your family or something? 

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#156 Juggernaut140
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That was incredibly unimpressive
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#157 sxs_alex
Member since 2007 • 933 Posts

TO those who doubts the gameplay.... should read all the beta testers reviews and decide for yourself. 98% were positive while the 2% think it's COD4 lol. Who ever thinks that it's like COD4 should get their head out of Activision's (__|__) . dude im an owner of COD4, played it for a good 3 months, fully ranked, and never touched it. I'll tell it like it is. If it sux I'll say it sux but im not gonna be kissing a guerilla's ass. You can call it whatever you want but when KZ II drops Feb 2009, it will be a BEAST and FPS heavy weight champion of the world. Haters are going to miss out. It's annoying seeing people bashing on this game but knows little to NOTHING about the gameplay and sound but only the graphics and comparing it to KZ I. Back then the beta for first KZ never existed, so it was blindly hyped to death and was called the Halo killer LOL. Yeah watch the game trailers video for KZ II, that's what it will look like online. The sound is 2x better in person than from the videos. THe gameplay is = to the graphics so believe it. Day 1 purchase for me.

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#158 Vaasman
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That looks like the exact same thing Gears 2 did, only in something that wasn't Gears 2.
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#159 MarloStanfield
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did guerrilla kill your family or something? 

ReaperV7

was killzone 1 a good game or something?

Please define "run of the mill". Honestly, you're not a fan of the game and doubt it greatly. Saying that, as a fan of the game, I know more about it than most that don't care about it. If you can tell me WHY its run of the mill. I'll tell you why its not.

Definition:
- merely average; commonplace; mediocre

Episode_Eve

Exactly

As far as I can tell it is another in a long line of generic, monochrome shooters with forgettable bad guys. This time it is a sequel to a huge flop coming from a terrible developer

I admire your and TREAL's optimism (at least I hope it's optimism). But I don't see how it is warranted

If you showed me Haze 2 with a few (completely incidental) changes to leaderboards  and the lobby system I wouldn't give a crap. If you showed me a random battlefield rip off with more flexibility in the c|ass system (as well as a few extra problems like having to unlock each **** I wouldn't care

People have been hyping this crap up for  two straight years off a CGI trailer, I still fail to see why

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#160 ragrdoll21
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Honestly not really impressive.

the destruction really isnt in area's that really change the pace of the game.

impattack420
See the last one right....You cant hide behind that pillar now. That just changed the way you play in that area.
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#161 aka_aj03
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That's hot and it not even scripted
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#162 iRock_OBAMA
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How can 360 ownewrs talk about flops this year? :lol:

 

Anyway, Killzone 2 is the best looking game I've layed eyes on. Makes Gears 2 look like Gears 1...not like there's much of a difference in the first place haha.

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#163 0bscurity
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People have been hyping this crap up for  two straight years off a CGI trailer, I still fail to see why

MarloStanfield

You're a fanboy, that's why you don't see why. You realize how many more trailers and gameplay videos plus positive previews that have been released since then? 

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#164 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

People have been hyping this crap up for  two straight years off a CGI trailer, I still fail to see why

0bscurity

You're a fanboy, that's why you don't see why. You realize how many more trailers and gameplay videos plus positive previews that have been released since then? 

There's no use. Some people are just down on the game and will continue to doubt it until it comes out (however the outcome may be) even if there are amazing looking videos (realitme :wink: ), feature info, positive previews, and beta impressions.

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#165 stappy
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That's hot and it not even scriptedaka_aj03
Destructible enviroments haven't been script for about 7 years.
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#166 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]That's hot and it not even scriptedstappy
Destructible enviroments haven't been script for about 7 years.

Regardless if its scripted or not. It looks impressive and only adds to the experience for immersion. I rather it be there than not, but by no means will it make or break the game though.

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#167 McJugga
Member since 2007 • 9453 Posts

It looks like stuff can't actually be destroyed, but an outerlayer comes off.

It looks like an excessive and randomly shaped amount comes off aswell.

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#168 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
I don't really know.

MarloStanfield

It pisses me off

PS3 is having a pretty great year and there's some great exclusives on it at last. MGS4 is awesome and LBP /R2 look really cool as well

Why the hell are people hyping crap like Killzone 2? Why not hype Fear 2? Why not hype MAG? Zipper and Monolith are ten times better than Guerilla. killzone 1 sucked

 

I'll tell you why. We hype games with visuals. Thats all that KZ2 has going for it right now. None of us have tried out the gameplay. We hype visuals and what we read. I will not buy into the hype for this game till I try it. All I see is visuals and thats it.