Anyone thought PS3 would still be in last place 6 years into this gen.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

You are a winner!

bez2083

So everyone should bow down and make low end cheap hardware and then sell it for a profit. Im curiious why some people are happy companys are making tons of money instead of giving the consumer more bang for there buck.

How do you know I wasn't being sarcastic?

haha I dont you tell me

If you want to play online with friends you either pay or dont get xbox live thats not much of a choice :|

Did they lose marketshare? Yes but they still made profit off the PS3 and the PS3 as a whole has probalby been more profitable for sony then any of the other consoels? Why? Because Sony put everything on Blu-Ray and because of the PS3 it succeeded.

TheSterls

Yes, you are correct, but you aren't being forced to do it. That's all I was really trying to say.

Yes, PS3 has helped BR tremendously, but several companies are getting paid off of the standard. And as for PS3 being the most profitable? Until we can get #s, who knows.

When I heard 600 bucks I knew it would be destined for some fail.. the first year after launch only reaffirmed that, I'm more surprised at the come back tbh. Seems that the PS3 still has brand power just the price point was too ridiculous compared to it.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So everyone should bow down and make low end cheap hardware and then sell it for a profit. Im curiious why some people are happy companys are making tons of money instead of giving the consumer more bang for there buck.

Sir_Graham

Except the Gamecube lacked one key feature that everyone wanted at the time( A DVD player) hell it coudlnt even play music CD's. Not to mention GPU's are just more expensive now and i dont see the Nintendo being able to make anything decent if they stick with the ( well never sell anything for a loss)

360 is a far better system then the PS3 I feel which is why the PS3 is in last place as of right nowhkymike

I own both and couldnt disagree with you more. The PS3 has more high quality exclusives since 2008, it has a BR player and free to play online.

The PS3 is close to passing up 50 million console sales which will put it in the top 6 systems sold all time passing up the SNES's 49 million. It will easily sell over 70 million by the end of this generation putting it in the top 5 consoles sold all time passing up the NES.

The rest of the top 5 will also include 360, Wii, PS1, and PS2. All 3 systems from this generation will be in the top 5 sold all time.

NOBODY lost this generation.

People constantly throw out the fact that it will probably never surpass the PS2 in sales. To put this in perspective the NES nearly sold 70 million units while the SNES sold under 50 million. How many people consider the SNES a failure? The N64 sold even less than the SNES. How many people consider the N64 a failure? Some people consider the SNES the best console released, while the N64 has some of the highest rated games of all time on it.

CajunShooter

that just means video gaming is growing buddy :|

The PS3 has also offered me plenty of great games, if the two are related then I wouldn't want it any other way.

[QUOTE="hkymike"]360 is a far better system then the PS3 I feel which is why the PS3 is in last place as of right nowTheSterls

I own both and couldnt disagree with you more. The PS3 has more high quality exclusives since 2008, it has a BR player and free to play online.

[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So everyone should bow down and make low end cheap hardware and then sell it for a profit. Im curiious why some people are happy companys are making tons of money instead of giving the consumer more bang for there buck.

TheSterls

Except the Gamecube lacked one key feature that everyone wanted at the time( A DVD player) hell it coudlnt even play music CD's. Not to mention GPU's are just more expensive now and i dont see the Nintendo being able to make anything decent if they stick with the ( well never sell anything for a loss)

it hasnt been six years

it hasnt even been 4 years for australia

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

The PS3 is close to passing up 50 million console sales which will put it in the top 6 systems sold all time passing up the SNES's 49 million. It will easily sell over 70 million by the end of this generation putting it in the top 5 consoles sold all time passing up the NES.

The rest of the top 5 will also include 360, Wii, PS1, and PS2. All 3 systems from this generation will be in the top 5 sold all time.

NOBODY lost this generation.

People constantly throw out the fact that it will probably never surpass the PS2 in sales. To put this in perspective the NES nearly sold 70 million units while the SNES sold under 50 million. How many people consider the SNES a failure? The N64 sold even less than the SNES. How many people consider the N64 a failure? Some people consider the SNES the best console released, while the N64 has some of the highest rated games of all time on it.

FatCatPatRat

that just means video gaming is growing buddy :|

I hate the analogy that "Sony has lost such a huge lead!" What lead? All the systems start at 0 sales. Just like in sports it doesn't matter what you did the previous season. Everyone starts off 0-0. Sony never had the lead this generation to lose. The 360 on the other hand is getting close to losing its lead.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="hkymike"]360 is a far better system then the PS3 I feel which is why the PS3 is in last place as of right nowhkymike

I own both and couldnt disagree with you more. The PS3 has more high quality exclusives since 2008, it has a BR player and free to play online.

If you do have both you are intentionally seeing the PS3 as a worst service through fanboy goggles. They do 90% of the things exactly the same as far as online goes. Xbox Live has a couple of friend features that the PS3 lacks, but at the same time the PS3 has several features that the 360 lacks.

Xbox 360 is doing better compared to the PS3.

Xbox 360 has done better than the Xbox.

Wii is doing better compared to the PS3.

Wii has done better than the GameCube.

Yes. The only way the PS3 can turn it around is if the PS3 does better than the PS2 AND does better than the Wii and 360.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]The PS3 isn't 6 years old but this gen almost is. Which is what the title of this thread almost correctly states.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]The PS3 isn't 6 years old but this gen almost is. Which is what the title of this thread almost correctly states.

Nintendo_Ownes7

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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]It only just passed 5 in November, I wouldn't consider that almost 6 either.

ianuilliam

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]If you go by handhelds then it is already 6 years into this gen because the DS was released in 2004 and it is the current generation handheld.

heretrix

If you went back to the start of this gen and claimed this, you'd have been laughed out of SW as being insane by the herd.blue_hazy_basic

ask any sony fan if they would want the ps3 toswitch places with the 360 or wii. if last place = best line up of games, thats fine with me.

I don't think much people outside these forums care about whats welling and what isn't.dvalo9

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]If you went back to the start of this gen and claimed this, you'd have been laughed out of SW as being insane by the herd.Nintendo_Ownes7

Hell PS3 looked like it was going to be taken off the market in its early days. The amount of money Sony poured into propping up that platform, things would be very different today if they didn't go on a spending spree.

They have turned things around today by filling up their line-up with in house projects. But the question is, in the long term, was it worth it? PS3 is going to have to stay out in the market for a long time to make worthwhile returns.

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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]According to that logic though, Next Gen starts in a few months, even though none of the companies will be releasing a new home console for several more years. Console generations should not be tied to handheld generations, unless we are going to consider 360/ps3/wii last gen as soon as the 3ds is out.

Nintendo_Ownes7

At nearly 50 million sold, I think Sony is just fine with "last place"

Wasdie

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]I don't think much people outside these forums care about whats welling and what isn't.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]If you go by handhelds then it is already 6 years into this gen because the DS was released in 2004 and it is the current generation handheld.

heretrix

Sony has lost most of the money it's made on gaming so far.

Microsoft has yet to make back the money it's lost on gaming so far.

Essentially they should both just bow down to Nintendo when it comes to making money from gaming, as they've been doing so pretty consistently for the past 30 years.

In graphical form courtesy of a poster on Neogaf:

shinrabanshou

All this really proves is that Nintendo passes the least value to their customers. Hence the Wii is a repackaged Gamecube. I won't hate though, I've been loving my Wii since Donkey Kong Country released :P