I speak from expearience and my knowledge of the TVs. You on the otherhand refuse to accept something you've never even seen before. Ok, I'll bite even though I said I wouldn't... I'm not blind and I have some experience. If you're so knowledgable then I'm sure you heard of LED TVs with local dimming technology? With that you can completely turn off the lighting in different areas of the screen, giving you black levels that are almost as good as a plasma tv. Like I said there are LED TVs that offer very deep black levels that almost givesyou the impression that the tv is off.. I think I know a thing or two here. A Kuro will not destroy a LED tv with this technology. Thinking otherwise is being a vidoephile... You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs.[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="karasill"]
I can tell you're probably a videophile so I'm not going to argue with you but I will leave this last statement./YOU/ and other TV enthusiasts/TV critics may "see" a big difference but normal people don't. Even people with a sharp eye will just see a small difference.. I'm not blind and I've seen my fair share of a variety of HDTVs. Hell I even own a plasma tv, a LCD tv, and a LED tv.. I may not have the same high standards as you (obviously), but I have a firm grasp at what I see and what is reality. Yeah the Kuro's may be the best tv's ever, I'm not arguing that. But you and I both know they dont blow all other tvs out of the water... That is just being an elitist or a videophile, nothing more...
karasill
Anyone who cares about graphics, should not play on an LCD monitor or tv.
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[QUOTE="karasill"]
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]I speak from expearience and my knowledge of the TVs. You on the otherhand refuse to accept something you've never even seen before.
Ok, I'll bite even though I said I wouldn't... I'm not blind and I have some experience. If you're so knowledgable then I'm sure you heard of LED TVs with local dimming technology? With that you can completely turn off the lighting in different areas of the screen, giving you black levels that are almost as good as a plasma tv. Like I said there are LED TVs that offer very deep black levels that almost givesyou the impression that the tv is off.. I think I know a thing or two here. A Kuro will not destroy a LED tv with this technology. Thinking otherwise is being a vidoephile... You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs. Yeah. i'm just a fool who obviously can't trust his eyes.. I dont have eagle vision like you, I'm sorry for dragging this debate out further then it had to be. I mean I'm sure the Kuro is capable of being blacker then black, it would have to be to show me a big improvment over a LED with dimming technology. You know what I brought this on myself, I knew you were a videophile and you guys are impossible to debate with, but I went for it anyway. Goodbye, I think I'll watch a movie on my lowly LED tv now if you dont mind.
Yes, CRT is the best, but it's not popular. LCD's are what the masses are gravitating towards. I myself have noticed Plasma's are superior to LCD, but some people don't have that kind of money. Then there is the issue of people wanting 720p HD sets for cheap. Eh. Recently, LCD just hit 240hz, which is nicer...but not perfect.
Ok, I'll bite even though I said I wouldn't... I'm not blind and I have some experience. If you're so knowledgable then I'm sure you heard of LED TVs with local dimming technology? With that you can completely turn off the lighting in different areas of the screen, giving you black levels that are almost as good as a plasma tv. Like I said there are LED TVs that offer very deep black levels that almost givesyou the impression that the tv is off.. I think I know a thing or two here. A Kuro will not destroy a LED tv with this technology. Thinking otherwise is being a vidoephile... You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs.[QUOTE="karasill"]
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]I speak from expearience and my knowledge of the TVs. You on the otherhand refuse to accept something you've never even seen before.
NVIDIATI
I want a kuro elite but the guys on the avsforums want too much and I don't trust other people enough to buy a used plasma from them.
You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs.[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="karasill"] Ok, I'll bite even though I said I wouldn't... I'm not blind and I have some experience. If you're so knowledgable then I'm sure you heard of LED TVs with local dimming technology? With that you can completely turn off the lighting in different areas of the screen, giving you black levels that are almost as good as a plasma tv. Like I said there are LED TVs that offer very deep black levels that almost givesyou the impression that the tv is off.. I think I know a thing or two here. A Kuro will not destroy a LED tv with this technology. Thinking otherwise is being a vidoephile...
pimpog
I want a kuro elite but the guys on the avsforums want too much and I don't trust other people enough to buy a used plasma from them.
Yeah its a tricky TV to find. Your best bet would be to wait for the next Panasonic, or if you really have your heart set there is the monitor version PRO-101FD, its the 50inch 9G Elite Kuro without speakers/stand/TV tuner it would cost the least, and its 2inch thick. Made for custom/home theater. Though TBH anything over $2000 at this point isn't worth it. You would be better off waiting.[QUOTE="djsifer01"]LCD TV's have far better everything than Plasmas. I have a 46' Samsung 1080p 260 MHz 1000:1 / 10000:1 (dynamic) contrast ratio that looks better than any TV on the market. I have done alot of research on Televisons and also alot of viewing different TV's. I used to own a 1080p Panasonic Plasma and my current TV blows it out of the water.NVIDIATI
Trolling hard are we? You must be searching for attention, because what you just said is obviously incorrect.
Incorrect? what ever you say dude. I used to sell TVs for a living and know exactly what im talking about.
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]LCD TV's have far better everything than Plasmas. I have a 46' Samsung 1080p 260 MHz 1000:1 / 10000:1 (dynamic) contrast ratio that looks better than any TV on the market. I have done alot of research on Televisons and also alot of viewing different TV's. I used to own a 1080p Panasonic Plasma and my current TV blows it out of the water.djsifer01
Trolling hard are we? You must be searching for attention, because what you just said is obviously incorrect.
Incorrect? what ever you say dude. I used to sell TVs for a living and know exactly what im talking about. LOL like that means you actually know what your talking about. TV salesmen in stores never know what the f*** they are talking about from my experience. You are one of them.[QUOTE="pimpog"]
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs.
NVIDIATI
I want a kuro elite but the guys on the avsforums want too much and I don't trust other people enough to buy a used plasma from them.
Yeah its a tricky TV to find. Your best bet would be to wait for the next Panasonic, or if you really have your heart set there is the monitor version PRO-101FD, its the 50inch 9G Elite Kuro without speakers/stand/TV tuner it would cost the least, and its 2inch thick. Made for custom/home theater. Though TBH anything over $2000 at this point isn't worth it. You would be better off waiting. I will only buy next years Panasonic if they fix their rising blacks. Its unacceptable.[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]You do realise a local dim. LED can only control so many sections at a time? As in if you have fine black details its washed out? You should know that? right? You insist on making claims with no proof to back, while arguing against a TV you've never actually seen. And black levels aside for a moment you seem to forget the contrast a TV like the kuro is capable of as it can consistently keep a black level = or less then 0.001 fL. Its a benchmark for all TVs. Yeah. i'm just a fool who obviously can't trust his eyes.. I dont have eagle vision like you, I'm sorry for dragging this debate out further then it had to be. I mean I'm sure the Kuro is capable of being blacker then black, it would have to be to show me a big improvment over a LED with dimming technology. You know what I brought this on myself, I knew you were a videophile and you guys are impossible to debate with, but I went for it anyway. Goodbye, I think I'll watch a movie on my lowly LED tv now if you dont mind.[QUOTE="karasill"] Ok, I'll bite even though I said I wouldn't... I'm not blind and I have some experience. If you're so knowledgable then I'm sure you heard of LED TVs with local dimming technology? With that you can completely turn off the lighting in different areas of the screen, giving you black levels that are almost as good as a plasma tv. Like I said there are LED TVs that offer very deep black levels that almost givesyou the impression that the tv is off.. I think I know a thing or two here. A Kuro will not destroy a LED tv with this technology. Thinking otherwise is being a vidoephile...
karasill
Player if i had not seen the kuro elite with my own eyes I would call bs but it is the truth. I liked it so much I have been trying to find a used one and I don't do used hdtv. That said I am thinking about the panasonic tcp50vt25 it's no kuro but it is close enough and it has 3d. Who am I kidding I want a kuro elite I go to my friends house just to look at the picture I will never have argh i knew i should have bought one but I went on vacation instead:cry:
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]Yeah its a tricky TV to find. Your best bet would be to wait for the next Panasonic, or if you really have your heart set there is the monitor version PRO-101FD, its the 50inch 9G Elite Kuro without speakers/stand/TV tuner it would cost the least, and its 2inch thick. Made for custom/home theater. Though TBH anything over $2000 at this point isn't worth it. You would be better off waiting. I will only buy next years Panasonic if they fix their rising blacks. Its unacceptable.[QUOTE="pimpog"]
I want a kuro elite but the guys on the avsforums want too much and I don't trust other people enough to buy a used plasma from them.
reachrocksman
Yeah I hear you on that but the price is right and it is the # 2 hdtv picture wise at least when it is working properly
this isn't tv wars.
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