Are any pc guys jumping ship?

[QUOTE="milannoir"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.lowe0

I must be a lucky guy. Never had that sort of thing happen to me, and I've been using both Nvidia and AMD hardware for years. So if I get what you're saying, the fact that something happens sometimes means it happens all the time. So then you are admitting that consoles always have abominable performance. Serioulsy Lowe, you're a joke of a poster. PC gaming has been easy for years now; driver issues happen rarely, to a minority of users, and don't "break" games, they just, for a short time, prevent people from maxing the game like they'd want. They can still play the game at a level of performance that humiliates consoles. If you want to be taken seriously, at elast TRY to know what you're talking about, because right now you sound like an angry anti-pc consolite from over ten years ago.

You talk as if your anecdotic evidence is worth anything. My anecdotic evidence, combined with that of the dozens of people I play with, tells me you're full of shit.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="milannoir"]

I must be a lucky guy. Never had that sort of thing happen to me, and I've been using both Nvidia and AMD hardware for years. So if I get what you're saying, the fact that something happens sometimes means it happens all the time. So then you are admitting that consoles always have abominable performance. Serioulsy Lowe, you're a joke of a poster. PC gaming has been easy for years now; driver issues happen rarely, to a minority of users, and don't "break" games, they just, for a short time, prevent people from maxing the game like they'd want. They can still play the game at a level of performance that humiliates consoles. If you want to be taken seriously, at elast TRY to know what you're talking about, because right now you sound like an angry anti-pc consolite from over ten years ago.

milannoir

You talk as if your anecdotic evidence is worth anything. My anecdotic evidence, combined with that of the dozens of people I play with, tells me you're full of shit.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Why is it that people love to imply, but as soon as they're called out on it, all of a sudden they're not accusing?lowe0

What do you mean? :?

I'm simply curious here, with no hostile intentions. Hell, I even offered you advice which could hopefully make your on-line experience on the PC more pleasant and simple.

If you're planning on sitting here pretending there's not a single good server in any PC game, I'm honestly at a loss of words...

I don't know, are you expecting a server where you'll get a warm welcome, a hug and a few free games on Steam for going through the trouble of joining the match?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Wow, talk about not listening. My issue with graphics drivers (and others, really) isn't having to install them. It's that the vendors are so obsessed with chasing a percent or two on the latest title that they introduce regression bugs. If I broke something every time I checked in code, I'd be fired, and rightfully so. But in PC gaming? Nope, "shit happens." Why bother writing quality code when your users admit they're fine with half-assing it?lowe0

You ignored the whole post, I understand why, it would be damning to your argument. Ill post in again, to see if you have the guts to address any of the points regarding GTA.

So for you, the framerate issues, pop up issues, garage issues that caused restarts were not a problem? Very forgiving, yet having to install new graphic drivers on PC is a huge issue for you?

Double standards again.

How about the GTA online issues that have caused major issues and has been widely publicised and caused massive upset? Doesn't this completely destroy your 'work out of the box' argument that you have been pushing of late?

Saying this issue does not affect you personally does not change the fact that your chosen platform has serious issues with regards quality control. Despite the picture you are trying to paint.

Because your whole argument is about bugs in PC games when that are massive bugs in ocnsole gaming?

Yet you focus on the PC elements and ignore the console ones? Can you not see the one sidedness of your own argument?

Your attempts to criticise PC gaming because of bugs is completely undermined my bugs on console that you convenienly chose to ignore or dismiss.

If your platform was bug free, it would be easy to understand, but the facts are different, but you are still attempting to hold your ground.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

What do you mean? :?

I'm simply curious here, with no hostile intentions. Hell, I even offered you advice which could hopefully make your on-line experience on the PC more pleasant and simple.

NameIess_One

If you're planning on sitting here pretending there's not a single good server in any PC game, I'm honestly at a loss of words...

I don't know, are you expecting a server where you'll get a warm welcome, a hug and a few free games on Steam for going through the trouble of joining the match?

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Erm, your advice for engaging with an unpleasant community was becoming a regular. That seems somewhat counter-productive, especially since it relies on their being a friendly server in the first place.lowe0

If you're planning on sitting here pretending there's not a single good server in any PC game, I'm honestly at a loss of words...

I don't know, are you expecting a server where you'll get a warm welcome, a hug and a few free games on Steam for going through the trouble of joining the match?

love how you are such a moron

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Erm, your advice for engaging with an unpleasant community was becoming a regular. That seems somewhat counter-productive, especially since it relies on their being a friendly server in the first place.lowe0

If you're planning on sitting here pretending there's not a single good server in any PC game, I'm honestly at a loss of words...

I don't know, are you expecting a server where you'll get a warm welcome, a hug and a few free games on Steam for going through the trouble of joining the match?

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

Teneka why

 

[spoiler] why [/spoiler]

Jebus213

Because his arguments are facetious and easy to counter, when people post arguements that destroy his points he does not respond he falls back on the minute.

it shows him up for what he is.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Teneka why

 

[spoiler] why [/spoiler]

tenaka2

Because his arguments are facetious and easy to counter, when people post arguements that destroy his points he does not respond he falls back on the minute.

it shows him up for what he is.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

If you're planning on sitting here pretending there's not a single good server in any PC game, I'm honestly at a loss of words...

I don't know, are you expecting a server where you'll get a warm welcome, a hug and a few free games on Steam for going through the trouble of joining the match?

NameIess_One

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, not having players complain that I'm not using unlocks I don't have, or kicking me from matches entirely, would be a good start. I'm looking to start the game, be matched against players of roughly equal skill, play one or two rounds, and then get on with my life. Please feel free to let me know which of those is an unreasonable expectation.lowe0

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

You give shit arguments and complain when people give you shit arguments?

Gtfo Lowe

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, not having players complain that I'm not using unlocks I don't have, or kicking me from matches entirely, would be a good start. I'm looking to start the game, be matched against players of roughly equal skill, play one or two rounds, and then get on with my life. Please feel free to let me know which of those is an unreasonable expectation.lowe0

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

As opposed to the console community?

The Bad

• Rewinding saved films doesn't work quite like you'd expect it to   
• AI-controlled Marines can't drive to save their lives (or yours)   
• Inevitable flood of prepubescent online players sure to hamper your enjoyment of the online modes.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You ignored the whole post, I understand why, it would be damning to your argument. Ill post in again, to see if you have the guts to address any of the points regarding GTA.

 

 

 

So for you, the framerate issues, pop up issues, garage issues that caused restarts were not a problem? Very forgiving, yet having to install new graphic drivers on PC is a huge issue for you?

Double standards again.

How about the GTA online issues that have caused major issues and has been widely publicised and caused massive upset? Doesn't this completely destroy your 'work out of the box' argument that you have been pushing of late?

 

Saying this issue does not affect you personally does not change the fact that your chosen platform has serious issues with regards quality control. Despite the picture you are trying to paint.

tenaka2

Because your whole argument is about bugs in PC games when that are massive bugs in ocnsole gaming?

Yet you focus on the PC elements and ignore the console ones? Can you not see the one sidedness of your own argument?

Your attempts to criticise PC gaming because of bugs is completely undermined my bugs on console that you convenienly chose to ignore or dismiss.

If your platform was bug free, it would be easy to understand, but the facts are different, but you are still attempting to hold your ground.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You ignored the whole post, I understand why, it would be damning to your argument. Ill post in again, to see if you have the guts to address any of the points regarding GTA.

 

 

 

So for you, the framerate issues, pop up issues, garage issues that caused restarts were not a problem? Very forgiving, yet having to install new graphic drivers on PC is a huge issue for you?

Double standards again.

How about the GTA online issues that have caused major issues and has been widely publicised and caused massive upset? Doesn't this completely destroy your 'work out of the box' argument that you have been pushing of late?

 

Saying this issue does not affect you personally does not change the fact that your chosen platform has serious issues with regards quality control. Despite the picture you are trying to paint.

tenaka2

Because your whole argument is about bugs in PC games when that are massive bugs in ocnsole gaming?

Yet you focus on the PC elements and ignore the console ones? Can you not see the one sidedness of your own argument?

Your attempts to criticise PC gaming because of bugs is completely undermined my bugs on console that you convenienly chose to ignore or dismiss.

If your platform was bug free, it would be easy to understand, but the facts are different, but you are still attempting to hold your ground.

So no answers lowe0?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

tenaka2

As opposed to the console community?

The Bad

• Rewinding saved films doesn't work quite like you'd expect it to   
• AI-controlled Marines can't drive to save their lives (or yours)   
• Inevitable flood of prepubescent online players sure to hamper your enjoyment of the online modes.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I already responded to your GTA questions when someone else asked them. In short, none of them stopped me from playing. For GTA online in particular, you're asking me to comment on the out-of-the-box experience of a tacked-on online mode that wasn't in said box in the first place?tenaka2

Because your whole argument is about bugs in PC games when that are massive bugs in ocnsole gaming?

Yet you focus on the PC elements and ignore the console ones? Can you not see the one sidedness of your own argument?

Your attempts to criticise PC gaming because of bugs is completely undermined my bugs on console that you convenienly chose to ignore or dismiss.

If your platform was bug free, it would be easy to understand, but the facts are different, but you are still attempting to hold your ground.

So no answers lowe0?

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, not having players complain that I'm not using unlocks I don't have, or kicking me from matches entirely, would be a good start. I'm looking to start the game, be matched against players of roughly equal skill, play one or two rounds, and then get on with my life. Please feel free to let me know which of those is an unreasonable expectation.lowe0

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

A good server keeps the assholes away, kicks out, and even bans people for cheating, spawn killing, excessive flaming, etc. It's true anyone can join, but good servers have their groups of regulars who keep things in check, so after a while, you'll be seeing plenty of familiar faces on the player list.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

NameIess_One

A good server keeps the assholes away, kicks out, and even bans people for cheating, spawn killing, excessive flaming, etc. It's true anyone can join, but good servers have their groups of regulars who keep things in check, so after a while, you'll be seeing plenty of familiar faces on the player list.

[QUOTE="milannoir"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Try to know what I'm talking about? I'm speaking from my experience. I've shelved plenty of games on PC, and started plenty more over on consoles, because they weren't working correctly on PCs. Same reason I scrapped my surround setup; PC gamers love to play it up for pretty screenshots, but the real-world experience was just ultimately too buggy to put up with. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not just picking issues off of forums. I'm discussing my actual experiences with your platform, which takes away the whole "you must not have tried PC gaming" argument.lowe0

You talk as if your anecdotic evidence is worth anything. My anecdotic evidence, combined with that of the dozens of people I play with, tells me you're full of shit.

Or you could, you know, be one big ****ing liar. Which is what i tend to believe. And try to get your facts straight; I wasn't talking about the community, but about the "awful game-breaking problems" you were having that according to you plague the platform (over ten years ago you might have had a point... Nowadays? You need to be a clown to try that argument). The community is a big, huge, human pile of ****, admittedly... just like on consoles. We're talking about human beings here, people like you, for instance.. No wonder they're pathetic. However, on PC you have so many different communities, with so many diffrent niches and sub-niches that you always end up finding lots of great people to play with.

 I'm not "ignoring" console bugs. How am I supposed to "ignore" bugs that aren't happening to me? Do they magically jump up in my face and yell "hey, I'm f**king over this dude over here, but we're cool!" I'm basing all of my opinions on my real-life experiences with each platform. I also include my experiences as a gamer over the past 25 years, as well as my education in how properly designed and implemented software should work.lowe0

Again, anecdotal, you attack PC gaming because of percieved bugs. Yet bug on consoles are fine. 

Your 'real-life' experiences are completely irrelevant. You have to argue facts. GTA 5 is a bug ridden mess, the results of which has seen most buyers of the game complain.

If you chose to attack PC as a platform because of bugs, you have to admit the games that exist on console. Whether these bugs affect you or not is completely irrelevant, this is system wars, your buggy console games are a factor, you cannot dismiss it.

If indeed you have 25 years experience in software then PC bugs should not be a problem for you, the fact that having to install the latest drivers and your obvious inablity to do so raises questions about your authenticity.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

NameIess_One

A good server keeps the assholes away, kicks out, and even bans people for cheating, spawn killing, excessive flaming, etc. It's true anyone can join, but good servers have their groups of regulars who keep things in check, so after a while, you'll be seeing plenty of familiar faces on the player list.

Unfortunately this isn't always the case. Take Chivalry MW for instance. So many of the non-official servers (usually the clan servers) are filled with nothing but annoying pricks who feel to the need to obstruct gameplay constantly. I am talking about the admins and their clan buddies, not the occassional troll. They'll always doing some annoying bullshit where they want everyone to gather around and form trains or some stupid shit like that instead of playing the game; or they'll just stand around doing nothing and then get pissy when I shoot them with arrows. It's gotten to the point where it's almost impossible to find a non-official server that isn't filled with douchebag admins/clans. One of the servers (Multiplay, get to the Choppa) even had an admin who blatantly used speed hacks and laughed about it when people complained. It's really ruining the game as the official servers are pretty crappy.

Keep in mind that this is something relatively unique to chivarly, which has one of the worst communities you'll find--the clan community in the game is just god awful. Avoid clans like the plague if you're thinking of getting into chivalry. 

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, not having players complain that I'm not using unlocks I don't have, or kicking me from matches entirely, would be a good start. I'm looking to start the game, be matched against players of roughly equal skill, play one or two rounds, and then get on with my life. Please feel free to let me know which of those is an unreasonable expectation.lowe0

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Specifically here, I don't mind the hostile treatment because it's usually a pretty good indicator that my opponents have run out of arguments (see Lumpy above). But let's take your "solution" of finding a server and becoming a regular. What good would that do? There's nothing stopping assholes from joining whatever server they want. It's not like I'm going to get the same mix of players next time I go back. lowe0

A good server keeps the assholes away, kicks out, and even bans people for cheating, spawn killing, excessive flaming, etc. It's true anyone can join, but good servers have their groups of regulars who keep things in check, so after a while, you'll be seeing plenty of familiar faces on the player list.

Some admins aren't that involved in their server policies, and hell, sometimes, admin himself is an idiot.

Nowhere it says admin can't be an asshole. They're still people, and with people, you'll always run into some bad eggs who invoke "admin discretion", or whatever. Hell, even on GS you have "moderator discretion", and if you step on a mod's toes, you can easily regret it! :P

Also, how much of those people that were giving you crap had the authority to kick you out of the server?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

 I'm not "ignoring" console bugs. How am I supposed to "ignore" bugs that aren't happening to me? Do they magically jump up in my face and yell "hey, I'm f**king over this dude over here, but we're cool!" I'm basing all of my opinions on my real-life experiences with each platform. I also include my experiences as a gamer over the past 25 years, as well as my education in how properly designed and implemented software should work.tenaka2

Again, anecdotal, you attack PC gaming because of percieved bugs. Yet bug on consoles are fine. 

Your 'real-life' experiences are completely irrelevant. You have to argue facts. GTA 5 is a bug ridden mess, the results of which has seen most buyers of the game complain.

If you chose to attack PC as a platform because of bugs, you have to admit the games that exist on console. Whether these bugs affect you or not is completely irrelevant, this is system wars, your buggy console games are a factor, you cannot dismiss it.

If indeed you have 25 years experience in software then PC bugs should not be a problem for you, the fact that having to install the latest drivers and your obvious inablity to do so raises questions about your authenticity.

I am not exactly jumping ship, but i am letting it sink. I have a couple of gaming PC's, each nearly identical with GTX680 graphic cards and I5 processors and 8gig ram.

I never intend to upgrade them in any fashion, so i am not sure how long they will last against the "next gen" consoles. 

I am getting both PS4 and Xbone (i already have a WiiU). The VAST majority of my gaming will be on the consoles. I dont know why. I have a Steam account full of games, but for whatever reason, i just dont really care about it too much. 

When my PC's become too obsolete, i will probably never get a desk top PC again.

Videodogg

So you just burn away money for no reason?

Unfortunately this isn't always the case. Take Chivalry MW for instance. So many of the non-official servers (usually the clan servers) are filled with nothing but annoying pricks who feel to the need to obstruct gameplay constantly. I am talking about the admins and their clan buddies, not the occassional troll. They'll always doing some annoying bullshit where they want everyone to gather around and form trains or some stupid shit like that instead of playing the game; or they'll just stand around doing nothing and then get pissy when I shoot them with arrows. It's gotten to the point where it's almost impossible to find a non-official server that isn't filled with douchebag admins/clans. One of the servers (Multiplay, get to the Choppa) even had an admin who blatantly used speed hacks and laughed about it when people complained. It's really ruining the game as the official servers are pretty crappy.

 

Keep in mind that this is something relatively unique to chivarly, which has one of the worst communities you'll find--the clan community in the game is just god awful. Avoid clans like the plague if you're thinking of getting into chivalry. 

cfisher2833

Yeah, sucks when that happens, some games (and sites) simply have hopelessly terrible communities, but games like Chivalry also have a much smaller playerbase than a big mainstream title like BF3, so with BF3 you have a much better chance of running into a good server.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Nothing whatsoever. All well and good, and all can be simply obtained by finding a server or two where no one did any of those things, and saving it as favorite for the next time you play.

Sounds far more simple than running through the server browser each time you start the game, going through trial and error, hoping you won't end up in a server full of assholes. Fits perfectly with your "play a round or two and get on with my life" philosphy.

Right now, I'm getting an odd impression you're actively trying to create more problems than there are ones. Also, how come you don't mind the hostile treatment here and always have a smartass response in hand, yet complaints get to you in an on-line game that clearly says "on-line interactions not rated by ESRB?"

clyde46

Except, judging from past experience (and really, what else is there to go on?) the next server will just be full of assholes too. lowe0

Possibly, but after a few tries, you're bound to run into one that will let you play the game in peace. And as Clyde said, if you're willing to give up on an on-line game over a single bad match, on-line gaming may not be for you.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="milannoir"]

 

You talk as if your anecdotic evidence is worth anything. My anecdotic evidence, combined with that of the dozens of people I play with, tells me you're full of shit.

milannoir

Or you could, you know, be one big ****ing liar. Which is what i tend to believe. And try to get your facts straight; I wasn't talking about the community, but about the "awful game-breaking problems" you were having that according to you plague the platform (over ten years ago you might have had a point... Nowadays? You need to be a clown to try that argument). The community is a big, huge, human pile of ****, admittedly... just like on consoles. We're talking about human beings here, people like you, for instance.. No wonder they're pathetic. However, on PC you have so many different communities, with so many diffrent niches and sub-niches that you always end up finding lots of great people to play with.

As for accusing me of lying?  Let's see some proof.  I mean, you could look at all the other times people have made that accusation and completely failed to back it up, think better of the whole thing, and retract your accusation, but that's your call.

let me guess, Lowe complaining about the PC community?

Alright, think I had enough of this thread, I'm out!

Good night Lowe, it was a pleasure, as usual! :P

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Why is it that people love to imply, but as soon as they're called out on it, all of a sudden they're not accusing?lowe0

What do you mean? :?

I'm simply curious here, with no hostile intentions. Hell, I even offered you advice which could hopefully make your on-line experience on the PC more pleasant and simple.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

What do you mean? :?

I'm simply curious here, with no hostile intentions. Hell, I even offered you advice which could hopefully make your on-line experience on the PC more pleasant and simple.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.lowe0

For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.

I have BF3 on PC since day 1, never had any driver-related issue, at least nothing that would prevent me from playing.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.

nunovlopes

I have BF3 on PC since day 1, never had any driver-related issue, at least nothing that would prevent me from playing.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug? lowe0

I have BF3 on PC since day 1, never had any driver-related issue, at least nothing that would prevent me from playing.

Nvidia

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

I have BF3 on PC since day 1, never had any driver-related issue, at least nothing that would prevent me from playing.

nunovlopes

Nvidia

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] AMD or Nvidia?lowe0

Nvidia

In all honesty, I'm quite lazy when it comes to updating GPU drivers. I usually only update every few months, like twice a year. So I won't usually be affected by the sort of thing you're talking about, liked rushed drivers to meet a new game.

BF3 on pc is such a superior experience.

Low3 is probably yet another troll.

It's not a ship as opposed to a 5 million dollar yacht and no, no one is jumping 5 million dolla yacht.

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

As a hardcore pc gamer who owns many steam games the launch lineup for nxt generation consoles look wholly "more of the same".

The only real selling point I can see from a pc gamer point of view, would... have been graphics. But We had Crysis back in 2007. Nothing here is very impressive.

 

How feels you hardcore pc gamers? Anyone excited and jumping ship or are you sticking with master-race platform?

kingoflife9

I see you finally realized that consoles have the best exclusives, your probably getting tired of just having the best looking multiplats, and only RTS games to show for your expensive "rig".  Just get a console, and enjoy console gaming.  The best gaming. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BuMBmK5uksg

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

As a hardcore pc gamer who owns many steam games the launch lineup for nxt generation consoles look wholly "more of the same".

The only real selling point I can see from a pc gamer point of view, would... have been graphics. But We had Crysis back in 2007. Nothing here is very impressive.

 

How feels you hardcore pc gamers? Anyone excited and jumping ship or are you sticking with master-race platform?

kingoflife9

I see you finally realized that consoles have the best exclusives, your probably getting tired of just having the best looking multiplats, and only RTS games to show for your expensive "rig".  Just get a console, and enjoy console gaming.  The best gaming. 

Yeah, that's not true