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Ill be getting a PS4 & Xbone a few years down the track when they are cheaper & have more exclusives
Will get a Wii U when Nintendo discontinue it in a couple of years
I didn't' enjoy the service at the restaurant. Hassles on pc made me stop enjoying the platform for gaming..I switched like 10 years ago.Why would I do that to myself? I'm not a masochist. When you can eat every day in a great restaurant, enjoying the best dishes and great wine, why would you long for Mc Donalds?
milannoir
[QUOTE="milannoir"]I didn't' enjoy the service at the restaurant. Hassles on pc made me stop enjoying the platform for gaming..I switched like 10 years ago.Why would I do that to myself? I'm not a masochist. When you can eat every day in a great restaurant, enjoying the best dishes and great wine, why would you long for Mc Donalds?
p4s2p0
Too bad. You are missing the golden age of PC gaming.
[QUOTE="milannoir"]I didn't' enjoy the service at the restaurant. Hassles on pc made me stop enjoying the platform for gaming..I switched like 10 years ago. Yes, we're well aware spending a minute every few months is a gruelling mental exercise that many console children cannot bear the weight of.Why would I do that to myself? I'm not a masochist. When you can eat every day in a great restaurant, enjoying the best dishes and great wine, why would you long for Mc Donalds?
p4s2p0
[QUOTE="milannoir"]I didn't' enjoy the service at the restaurant. Hassles on pc made me stop enjoying the platform for gaming..I switched like 10 years ago.Why would I do that to myself? I'm not a masochist. When you can eat every day in a great restaurant, enjoying the best dishes and great wine, why would you long for Mc Donalds?
p4s2p0
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Sounds like a user issue. And it's also a terrible argument, since PC gaming is more accessible today than it ever was, whereas consoles are losing simplicity each new gen (trying hard to be PCs). If someone finds getting a functional gaming rig too hard nowadays, I think he has bigger problems than that one in life, since lots of important things must be too hard for him.
No. Â I just canceled my PS4 preorder to save money for PC parts and a car. Â I will likely get a PS4 sometime and maybe even a WiiU, but not right now.
[QUOTE="John_Read"]Even mods are vanquishing on PC :(lawlessxcome again? Vanquishing the peasants, dude.
Is there any gamers that are single system owners these days? PC or not I feel sorry for you if you are limiting yourself to one system. DaBrainzYa because some people are satisfied with one system. While i am normally this way I may get a ps4 since my vita can be the controller.
Let me guess. too hardcore for you? KB/M >>>>>> controller and so are everything PC gaming is for hardcore man like Me.[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]
- Expensive to maintain
- Boring Mature Community
- Second-Class Citizen Treatment
- Steam
- Uncomfortableness
- Keyboard
- Dealing with drivers and their incompatibilities
SNIPER4321
                          ...and the headaches keep stacking.
Besides the PS4, you getting an X1 as well?
mitu123
Eventually, but for now the Wii-U and PS4 are the only options on the table this year. I wish MS would drop the price though because it would definitely be a day 1 for me.Â
I had no idea you were getting a Wii U, alsoÂ
Eventually, but for now the Wii-U and PS4 are the only options on the table this year. I wish MS would drop the price though because it would definitely be a day 1 for me.Â
TecmoGirl
[spoiler] I sent you a PM about PC gaming!!! [/spoiler]
I didn't' enjoy the service at the restaurant. Hassles on pc made me stop enjoying the platform for gaming..I switched like 10 years ago.[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="milannoir"]
Why would I do that to myself? I'm not a masochist. When you can eat every day in a great restaurant, enjoying the best dishes and great wine, why would you long for Mc Donalds?
milannoir
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Sounds like a user issue. And it's also a terrible argument, since PC gaming is more accessible today than it ever was, whereas consoles are losing simplicity each new gen (trying hard to be PCs). If someone finds getting a functional gaming rig too hard nowadays, I think he has bigger problems than that one in life, since lots of important things must be too hard for him.
I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]SNIPER preferring it. ...and the headaches keep stacking.SNIPER4321Oh temco. you are shooo cute. and casual.
:lol:
I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.lowe0
For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.
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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]
Been PC gaming for a few years now and i'm fed up with it. I'm definitely ditching it completely and riding with next-gen consoles for my gaming needs -- the downsides of PC gaming really aren't worth the headaches.
TecmoGirl
What are the headaches of PC gaming?
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Are people still thinking this way? You know its 2013, right?
Expensive to maintain? - Erh, you know you don't HAVE to upgrade. The beauty of PC games is that the settings can be tailored to your preference or technical limitations or lack thereof.
Boring Mature Community - What the hell is this? Just... NEXT!
Second-Class Citizen Treatment - Again, wth? Is this regarding the quality of ports? Or the delay of releases? Trust me, you'll have way too many games to be able to keep up with whatever releases at the time.
Steam - Thought you were listing negatives, not positives.
Uncomfortableness - This may be the only topic I can agree with, regarding getting used to the setup. Regardless, you can just hook a X360 controller and have a go. Just plug and play. No hassle.
Keyboard - See the point above. Though I have to add that once you get accustomed to the precision found in KB/M, you'll hate controllers.
Dealing with drivers - Its 2013, it's not like it was a decade ago. The experience is very seamless, even more when you have apps such as Steam that take care of most of that for you. Drivers? Most, if not all can be dl'ed automatically or even have notifications when a new one is up and its just 'click click click'.
I have been gaming on consoles my whole life, and have loved every single minute of it. Got a PC about a year ago, although I have played a huge amount of hours before in MMO's. Consoles are great at what they do, but they're not really as cheap as many might think. Games are expensive and take quite an amount of time before finding a good sale, if any.
PC's have so many options that you really are missing out on.
[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.NameIess_One
For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.
BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug?[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]Instead of upgrading the hardware of your PC, you should upgrade the monitor (Get an HDTV) and audio (any external speakers will suffice for now), and join the Master Race of Classy PenguinsNo, not really. I'd prefer to simply upgrade my computer. I'll probably pick up a PS4 after it's been out for around four years, gone down in price, and accumulated a decent selection of exclusives. The only PS4 exclusive I find remotely interesting at the moment is Resogun. Killzone? Bleh. Deep Down? Capcom :roll: Infamous? Not interesting enough to warrant a purchase. Maybe in a few years, but not now.Â
m3Boarder32
Lmao this kid had to make his own faction of 3 systems so that he can have a chance of even touching PC :lol:
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Instead of upgrading the hardware of your PC, you should upgrade the monitor (Get an HDTV) and audio (any external speakers will suffice for now), and join the Master Race of Classy Penguins[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="cfisher2833"]
No, not really. I'd prefer to simply upgrade my computer. I'll probably pick up a PS4 after it's been out for around four years, gone down in price, and accumulated a decent selection of exclusives. The only PS4 exclusive I find remotely interesting at the moment is Resogun. Killzone? Bleh. Deep Down? Capcom :roll: Infamous? Not interesting enough to warrant a purchase. Maybe in a few years, but not now.Â
Jankarcop
Lmao this kid had to make his own faction of 3 systems so that he can have a chance of even touching PC :lol:
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Dry your eyes low settings warriors:lol:[QUOTE="Jankarcop"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Instead of upgrading the hardware of your PC, you should upgrade the monitor (Get an HDTV) and audio (any external speakers will suffice for now), and join the Master Race of Classy Penguinsm3Boarder32
Lmao this kid had to make his own faction of 3 systems so that he can have a chance of even touching PC :lol:
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Dry your eyes low settings warriors:lol:Â
U mad that pc won this gen?
Dry your eyes low settings warriors:lol:[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
Lmao this kid had to make his own faction of 3 systems so that he can have a chance of even touching PC :lol:
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Jankarcop
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U mad that pc won this gen?
PS3 had the most AAA games 360 had the most AAA/AA games Keep crying :lol:2012-current games not reviewed on PC(only on 360 and Live Arcade, either AAA or AA. Didn't check PS3 and PSN)
Lego Harry potter years 5-7
The king of fighter XIII
rayman origins
rocksmith
assasins creed 3
nba 2k13
fifa 2013
PES 2013
dirt shodown
rayman legends
splinter cell blacklist
dead space 3
lego the lord of the rings
sonic all star racing transformed
mark of the ninja
fez
skullgirls
sine mora
nexuiz
I am alive
joe danger 2 The movie
call of juarez
castlestorm
state of decay
cloudberry kingdom
Gianna sisters twisted dreams
brothers a tale of two sons
dishonored the brigmore witches = 28
28 + 360 = 388 for PC
So the current standings are:
PC = 388
360 = 382
PS3 = 302
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PC has the most aaa/aa. Most total games.
PC has the most aaa/aa exclusive. 3x more than any system. Most total Exclusives
Best gfx/performance.
Best version of 90% of multiplats.
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If PC didn't win this gen, then Obama didn't win the last 2 terms.
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Dry your eyes low settings warriors:lol:m3Boarder32
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U mad that pc won this gen?
PS3 had the most AAA games 360 had the most AAA/AA games Keep crying :lol:PS3 also had the most exclusive GOTY winning awards. Â
Hell Consoles perior had the most GOTY awards. Â I think the only GOTY winning titles that are shared between PC and consoles are Gears of War and Skyrim...all the other GOTY winning games of the generation are not available on PC. Â PC won 0 GOTY awards for PC only titles the entire generation, so much for winning.
PS3 had the most AAA games 360 had the most AAA/AA games Keep crying :lol:[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
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U mad that pc won this gen?
kinectthedots
PS3 also had the most exclusive GOTY winning awards. Â
Hell Consoles perior had the most GOTY awards. Â I think the only GOTY winning titles that are shared between PC and consoles are Gears of War and Skyrim...all the other GOTY winning games of the generation are not available on PC. Â PC won 0 GOTY awards for PC only titles the entire generation, so much for winning.
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PC won the GS meta game. Since you are using GS for those goty's right?
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We value more aaa/aa games, more aaa/aa exclusives, better gfx, and the best multiplats over 1 or 2 GOTYs and lol 3 vs 1.
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PC factually won here at SW> Go post at ign.
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] PS3 had the most AAA games 360 had the most AAA/AA games Keep crying :lol:Jankarcop
PS3 also had the most exclusive GOTY winning awards. Â
Hell Consoles perior had the most GOTY awards. Â I think the only GOTY winning titles that are shared between PC and consoles are Gears of War and Skyrim...all the other GOTY winning games of the generation are not available on PC. Â PC won 0 GOTY awards for PC only titles the entire generation, so much for winning.
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PC won the GS meta game.
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So much for lying.
:lol: there is no lie to be found in my post.ÂI gusess the lying comment was aimed at yourself.
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
[QUOTE="kinectthedots"]
PS3 also had the most exclusive GOTY winning awards. Â
Hell Consoles perior had the most GOTY awards. Â I think the only GOTY winning titles that are shared between PC and consoles are Gears of War and Skyrim...all the other GOTY winning games of the generation are not available on PC. Â PC won 0 GOTY awards for PC only titles the entire generation, so much for winning.
kinectthedots
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PC won the GS meta game.
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So much for lying.
:lol: there is no lie to be found in my post.ÂI gusess the lying comment was aimed at yourself.
You said "so much for winning" when PC facutally won this gen at this forum. That is a lie.
Having more games (aa+aaa) more excluaives (aa and aaa) and the best version of multiplats. Lets not mention best gx and performance.
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
[QUOTE="kinectthedots"]
PS3 also had the most exclusive GOTY winning awards. Â
Hell Consoles perior had the most GOTY awards. Â I think the only GOTY winning titles that are shared between PC and consoles are Gears of War and Skyrim...all the other GOTY winning games of the generation are not available on PC. Â PC won 0 GOTY awards for PC only titles the entire generation, so much for winning.
kinectthedots
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PC won the GS meta game.
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So much for lying.
:lol: there is no lie to be found in my post.ÂI gusess the lying comment was aimed at yourself.
Hes lying anyway, dude is assuming that every unscored PC game would score the same as the console version. When in fact many of these unscored PC Games are broken messy garbage or are missing essential modes or multiplayer found in the superior console versions[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm curious... when Nvidia or AMD break some other game chasing after an extra percent they can crow about in a driver update blog post, how is that the user's fault? Because Nvidia does it all. The. F**king. Time. A lot of driver headaches would go away if a GPU vendor would just focus on writing maintainable code that doesn't need to change much from one release to the next. Instead, they're chasing after benchmark wins, because that's management's priority, and if something breaks, they don't see that as a problem.lowe0
For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.
BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug?Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
[QUOTE="kinectthedots"]:lol: there is no lie to be found in my post.Â[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
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PC won the GS meta game.
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So much for lying.
m3Boarder32
I gusess the lying comment was aimed at yourself.
Hes lying anyway, dude is assuming that every unscored PC game would score the same as the console version. When in fact many of these unscored PC Games are broken messy garbage or are missing essential modes or multiplayer found in the superior console versionsWe don't need you reviewing games for us and giving your opinion, that is not part of the meta-game. Â Even if it was, noone would take you seriously as you have 3 troll alts here and are known baiter with faking and lying.
BTW, They were probably better:
"If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time."
The current standings are:
PC = 388
360 = 382
PS3 = 302
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]
Been PC gaming for a few years now and i'm fed up with it. I'm definitely ditching it completely and riding with next-gen consoles for my gaming needs -- the downsides of PC gaming really aren't worth the headaches.
TecmoGirl
What are the headaches of PC gaming?
Valid points.
Positives, not negatives.
Eh who treats PC gamers like second-class citizens?. Uncomfortability isn't exclusive to PC gaming and can occur with any setup.
BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug?[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]
For years, I must've been doing a perfect job staying away from those newly "broken" games, since I don't remember the last time I encountered a game-breaking issue related to a driver.
NameIess_One
Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
Thank you for proving my point. When something breaks, it shouldn't be "shit happens." It should be "how did we botch this, and how can we prevent it in the future?" There's just no drive to get it right the first time on PC. On consoles, there is - in the form of costly patch fees when they fail.[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="lowe0"] BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug? lowe0
Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
Thank you for proving my point. When something breaks, it shouldn't be "shit happens." It should be "how did we botch this, and how can we prevent it in the future?" There's just no drive to get it right the first time on PC. On consoles, there is - in the form of costly patch fees when they fail.Oh, I definitely agree, in a perfect world, everything would work right out the box. But sadly, this is far from a perfect world, and with being a gamer, no matter on what platform, you simply have to accept some risks like a system dying on you, a game being bugged, not working, etc.
And since games are getting patches all the time across all systems, guess those patch fees aren't too costly. Else, Bethesda would probably be out of business for a while now.
Thank you for proving my point. When something breaks, it shouldn't be "shit happens." It should be "how did we botch this, and how can we prevent it in the future?" There's just no drive to get it right the first time on PC. On consoles, there is - in the form of costly patch fees when they fail.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]
Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
NameIess_One
Oh, I definitely agree, in a perfect world, everything would work right out the box. But sadly, this is far from a perfect world, and with being a gamer, no matter on what platform, you simply have to accept some risks like a system dying on you, a game being bugged, not working, etc.
And since games are getting patches all the time across all systems, guess those patch fees aren't too costly. Else, Bethesda would probably be out of business for a while now.
At least 3 of Skyrim's patches were needed for DLC anyway (and therefore have DLC revenue to offset them) and one more was likely paid for by MS (the Kinect patch). But honestly, we're not talking about needing a perfect world. I'm talking about common-sense development practices in support of a simple commitment: "on day one, we will be there with drivers that have been tested against this month's releases, with only minimal changes which reduces our risk of regressions." But they won't, because that doesn't sell graphics cards. And do you know why it doesn't? Attitudes like the guy who said "shit happens" - you.:roll:Â The cows in system wars are always hilarious. They go on and on about how horrible PC gaming is, yet they still feel the need buy gaming PCs. If you hate PC gaming so much, then why did you spend thousands of dollars on it? If console gaming is so much better, then why did you feel the need to get a PC? Shouldn't your console have been enough? You do realize that by buying a gaming PC, your'e tacitly saying that your consoles weren't enough, right?
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[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="lowe0"] BF3 was an absolute mess. Don't remember the black triangle bug? lowe0
Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
Thank you for proving my point. When something breaks, it shouldn't be "shit happens." It should be "how did we botch this, and how can we prevent it in the future?" There's just no drive to get it right the first time on PC. On consoles, there is - in the form of costly patch fees when they fail.Â
Hows it that GTA online mess working out on your ever so perfect consoles?
Thank you for proving my point. When something breaks, it shouldn't be "shit happens." It should be "how did we botch this, and how can we prevent it in the future?" There's just no drive to get it right the first time on PC. On consoles, there is - in the form of costly patch fees when they fail.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NameIess_One"]
Can't remember what I haven't experienced. But I'll give you BF3, since there indeed was a lot of talk about issues, so it's fair to conclude it's a valid problem. Still, it's a single game, and well, shit happens, sometimes, there are problems with games, no matter the platform.
Your post makes it sound like driver issues are commonplace, severely affecting your platform experience. For me, that was never the case.
tenaka2
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Hows it that GTA online mess working out on your ever so perfect consoles?
How should I know? Single player's been great. Worked beautifully right out of the box.Please Log In to post.
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