Are PS 4 graphics matching upto the standard or even surpassing many PC games?

Its funny isn't it... its just because 1 studio at sony can out-perform 3rd parties on graphics quality... on a very limited scale genre....

As if it makes up for the shear difference in PC gaming in terms of games and graphics, and performance? its f*cking laughable.....

UC4 looks way better than anything on PC.

Funny seeing the PC gamers jumping through hopes to make excuses :P

It's ok to admit that Uncharted 4 is god tier pretty, there's no shame in it, no need to get all spiteful and angry ;)

Now imagine if those graphics were for a game that had a good story.

They've already shown a ton of footage of gameplay and Creative has had clean launches more often than not. So I have faith that it will be fine.

You have multiple reviews stating it's the best looking game period... and even mentioning it beats anything on PC. I can't remember the last time a console game received that kind of praise from reviews.

Here we go again. No that's stupid. A Console powered by outdated hardware can not match the graphics of games created for High End PC hardware, especially in a world where devs like Epic Games, Crytek, CIG and many other exist that are known for pushing the technology forward.

In fact, Consoles never pushed the envelop ever since the 90s. Consoles always played ketchup and they are still playing it now. A lot of things PC games did many years ago are still not standard in Console games today, even in some or many areas they've been surpassed technically. For example I've yet to see a single Console game that matches the scope of World of Warcraft or I've yet to see Uncharted game where vegetation and buildings are destructible like Crysis.

It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007. Same was the case back in 90s when MGS was being crowned as "cinematic revolution" even though there were more well written cinematic games way before that.

History repeats itself. Just like the release of Uncharted 1,2 and 3, fanboys are now passing Uncharted 4 as so called graphics king while the fact is,,, just like those 3 games, it's extremely impressive Console game but it pales in comparison technically compared to PC games like The Climb, Battlefront and others. And with upcoming games like Unreal Tournament, Squadron 42, Battlefield 1 etc it doesn't even stand a chance. Sure if you like aesthetics of UC4 more than it's your opinion.

^^UC4 looks better than these? I highly doubt that. Sure if you like to play Console games and prefer to use Consoles then sure go ahead, but trying to pit Console graphics against PC is just stupid.

What excuses?

1 game does not dispute the norm.

lol no!

There are no multiplatform games that look better than UC4 PC or not.

Uprez, framerate and a few extra textures aren't going to be enough to outdo UC4 as far as graphics are concerned. *Some* hermits are making some horrible arguments here about graphic and you guys are supposed to have a better grasp of what it takes to produce a graphically impressive game.

A lot of wishful thinking, denial and just wait in your post.

The games you list which could go toe to toe with UC4 are Unreal Tournament, Dreadnought and Star Citicen....NONE of which are currently out nor have been reviewed. Currently there is nothing on PC that is more graphically impressive than UC4. Total War: Warhammer, an impressive technical game for sure, however, it is no where near touching the graphical impressive of Uncarted 4; technically sure, graphically? no not in the same ball park.

It's amazing what developers like Naughty Dog can do with the limited hardware available on PC. It's also amazing how they've used great art style to work around these limitations and showing off an aesthetically pleasing game. Uncharted 4 looks great and nobody can deny this. However, there is a certain point where these hardware limitations come in to play where they are not available on PC. There are quite a few games that do take advantage of PC hardware and boast better graphical features than Uncharted 4 because they're running on better hardware. Games like Unreal Tournament, Star Citizen, Witcher 3, Crysis 3, AC unity etc are all games that look stunning on PC and do beat UC4 when it comes to visuals in many aspects. But to say these graphics surpass PC's best is just wrong.

Incoming metldowns and screenshots

It would be great if PC gamers had some dignity and admitted Uncharted 4 blows them into another dimension.

All these excuses to tip toe around an obvious fact.

@MBirdy88: Except the scale isn't that limited.

God tier? you cant be god teir and miss reflections, self occlusion and bounce excessive amounts of light. There is nothing God tier about UC4 lighting, now if we were talking animation youd have a point.

UC4 has spectacular character models and animations, then that's it

@Cloud_imperium said:

Here we go again. No that's stupid. A Console powered by outdated hardware can not match the graphics of games created for High End PC hardware, especially in a world where devs like Epic Games, Crytek, CIG and many other exist that are known for pushing the technology forward.

In fact, Consoles never pushed the envelop ever since the 90s. Consoles always played ketchup and they are still playing it now. A lot of things PC games did many years ago are still not standard in Console games today, even in some or many areas they've been surpassed technically. For example I've yet to see a single Console game that matches the scope of World of Warcraft or I've yet to see Uncharted game where vegetation and buildings are destructible like Crysis.

It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007. Same was the case back in 90s when MGS was being crowned as "cinematic revolution" even though there were more well written cinematic games way before that.

History repeats itself. Just like the release of Uncharted 1,2 and 3, fanboys are now passing Uncharted 4 as so called graphics king while the fact is,,, just like those 3 games, it's extremely impressive Console game but it pales in comparison technically compared to PC games like The Climb, Battlefront and others. And with upcoming games like Unreal Tournament, Squadron 42, Battlefield 1 etc it doesn't even stand a chance. Sure if you like aesthetics of UC4 more than it's your opinion.

^^UC4 looks better than these? I highly doubt that. Sure if you like to play Console games and prefer to use Consoles then sure go ahead, but trying to pit Console graphics against PC is just stupid.

LMAO at this guy posting multiplats and unreleased games, rough times for hermits.

What did posting shitty looking pictures like this..

and and a bunch of unreleased games do for you? Do you think that vendicated PC? Do you actually think that looks better than UC4????????????

The Order dumps on that, oh man peeps are really reaching

And OMG these guys are delusional

"It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007."

haha they are Playing UC4 on their imaginary PS4's to compare them with outdated shit like Crysis. This is a new level of desperation.

Tell us about the driving in UC4 @Cloud_imperium we are dying to hear your impressions...

:D

The same way you admit that denuvo failed to make pc pirates buy games?

@Cloud_imperium said:

Here we go again. No that's stupid. A Console powered by outdated hardware can not match the graphics of games created for High End PC hardware, especially in a world where devs like Epic Games, Crytek, CIG and many other exist that are known for pushing the technology forward.

In fact, Consoles never pushed the envelop ever since the 90s. Consoles always played ketchup and they are still playing it now. A lot of things PC games did many years ago are still not standard in Console games today, even in some or many areas they've been surpassed technically. For example I've yet to see a single Console game that matches the scope of World of Warcraft or I've yet to see Uncharted game where vegetation and buildings are destructible like Crysis.

It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007. Same was the case back in 90s when MGS was being crowned as "cinematic revolution" even though there were more well written cinematic games way before that.

History repeats itself. Just like the release of Uncharted 1,2 and 3, fanboys are now passing Uncharted 4 as so called graphics king while the fact is,,, just like those 3 games, it's extremely impressive Console game but it pales in comparison technically compared to PC games like The Climb, Battlefront and others. And with upcoming games like Unreal Tournament, Squadron 42, Battlefield 1 etc it doesn't even stand a chance. Sure if you like aesthetics of UC4 more than it's your opinion.

^^UC4 looks better than these? I highly doubt that. Sure if you like to play Console games and prefer to use Consoles then sure go ahead, but trying to pit Console graphics against PC is just stupid.

no no , you should play by COW rules - stupid rules but you should abide - :

first : it must be PC exclusive

2nd : Upcoming exclusives don't count

3rd : the climb is VR exclusive , it also doesn't count

4th : it should have handsome character models

It's clear from your post you don't have a good PC to actually make the comparison because good multiplatform games do far, far more than "extra textures." Better textures, better geometry, better lighting, better particle effects, and unique features only on PC, like with Division and it's volumetric lighting and full reflections.

Crysis 3, Witcher 3, Division, all look better than UC4 with their PC versions, even before you consider resolution and framerate. Your sad delusion isn't going to change that.

Now you've done it. He's going to have another meltdown.

@True_Gamer_: The pc argument is ridiculous.

"Well yea, Uncharted 4 only looks good because consoles get AAA production values..."

Well yea- IT'S BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY SUPPORT DEVELOPERS

Because piracy has no effect? Lulz.

Troll bait

When games are possible to pirate they sell like crap.

When Denuvo makes piracy impossible games still sell like crap

Explain

WRONG!

lol but when the opinion is coming from a biased source we can expect nothing more. Looking for more tainted fanboy opinions to rack up here that haven't played the game and making biased opinion as if their words hold some kind of weight.

:)

No...NO!... Not again!

It's because the consoles are dragging the PC down. Gone are the days where developers make a Crysis type game for the PC only.....they need that console money.

@True_Gamer_: It appears the vast majority are so cheap, so petty and so vindictive in nature, that they will still refuse to purchase under a misplaced sense of entitlement that they should get it for free with Publishers (somehow) in the wrong attempting to stop parasitical freeloaders.

It's not exactly something to shout about like it's a triumph of the human spirit, it's precisely the opposite.

I don't understand the question. There are so many games and genres on PC that are not about graphics but gameplay. Of course Uncharted 4 is graphically better looking than those games. Do you seriously compare Uncharted with PC games from other genres ? Looks like you can't beat the big guys so you pick up on the smaller lol

so piracy has minimal effect

at last you admit that even if piracy is eradicated sales wont come thus piracy doesnt affect sales

thank you

Rome 2 had some pretty big issues at launch, but Attila was fine.

@True_Gamer_: Watevas. Enjoy your low budget barely working survival games and f2p MMO's while I enjoy 95 metacritic blockbusters.

@casharmy said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Here we go again. No that's stupid. A Console powered by outdated hardware can not match the graphics of games created for High End PC hardware, especially in a world where devs like Epic Games, Crytek, CIG and many other exist that are known for pushing the technology forward.

In fact, Consoles never pushed the envelop ever since the 90s. Consoles always played ketchup and they are still playing it now. A lot of things PC games did many years ago are still not standard in Console games today, even in some or many areas they've been surpassed technically. For example I've yet to see a single Console game that matches the scope of World of Warcraft or I've yet to see Uncharted game where vegetation and buildings are destructible like Crysis.

It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007. Same was the case back in 90s when MGS was being crowned as "cinematic revolution" even though there were more well written cinematic games way before that.

History repeats itself. Just like the release of Uncharted 1,2 and 3, fanboys are now passing Uncharted 4 as so called graphics king while the fact is,,, just like those 3 games, it's extremely impressive Console game but it pales in comparison technically compared to PC games like The Climb, Battlefront and others. And with upcoming games like Unreal Tournament, Squadron 42, Battlefield 1 etc it doesn't even stand a chance. Sure if you like aesthetics of UC4 more than it's your opinion.

^^UC4 looks better than these? I highly doubt that. Sure if you like to play Console games and prefer to use Consoles then sure go ahead, but trying to pit Console graphics against PC is just stupid.

LMAO at this guy posting multiplats and unreleased games, rough times for hermits.

What did posting shitty looking pictures like this..

and and a bunch of unreleased games do for you? Do you think that vendicated PC? Do you actually think that looks better than UC4????????????

The Order dumps on that, oh man peeps are really reaching

And OMG these guys are delusional

"It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007."

haha they are Playing UC4 on their imaginary PS4's to compare them with outdated shit like Crysis. This is a new level of desperation.

Tell us about the driving in UC4 @Cloud_imperium we are dying to hear your impressions...

:D

Apart from Battlefield 1, all of these games are currently playable. But whatever makes you sleep at nigh... Oh wait, it's casharmy, carry on then.

Blah blah blah.

By you even mentioning Crysis 3 your opinion on this entire subject is invalid. Crysys 3...at game that PS3 and xbox 360 were able to run, is something you dare to bring up to compare to current gen developed Uncharted 4??????

When it comes to these debates hermits seem to lose their mind and start making outlandish claims that derail the whole argument because of how ridiculous it is. Come back to reality herm....come back! NOTHING from last gen can even be mentioned in the same breath as Uncharted 4 from a graphics stand point.

That said, everything you have there is a console multiplat (again desperate times) and no matter how much you kick, cry and scream at the top of your lungs...they aren't a huge departure from what current gen consoles have of these games. Last gen maybe your rant wont fly but this gen, we can see it for what it is reaching!

lol, I'll play a little game with you and use the games you claim look better than UC4:

Crysis 3, Witcher 3, Division,

Pick one of these games "ON PEE CEE" at max settings that you believe un-equivocally looks better than UC4 and I'll prove to you why what you're saying is a joke and I won't even use UC4 to make my point.

@casharmy:

I do have a bias towards PC gaming as it's my preferred platform. You on the other hand are a raging fanboy, it's adorable that you would call me out like that.

You can't generalize making broad sweeping statements like "PC AAAs" when that makes no sense other than blindly hyping a bunch of games on a specific platform. What PC AAA's look better than say The Order even? We are not just talking about resolution and frame-rate but overall graphical prowess. Has one released this gen? XCOM2?? Divinity original Sin??? Lets be serious here.

Games I own or have played that look better: Witcher 3, Crysis 3, and Battlefront (Yah, even in the beta). Games I haven't played that look better from in game screenshots - Far Cry 4 (arguably) and Primal, The Division. I suspect Unreal Tournament, Escape from Torkarov and Battlefield 1 will as well. I base this on lighting, texture quality, LoDs and resolution. Unless you can find actual polygon counts we'll be squinting at all of those blurred static objects in the Order for days.

We are not just talking about resolution and frame-rate but overall graphical prowess

Every time a graphics comparison thread is conceived you cows conveniently try to throw resolution out of the picture. Rendering resolution effects ALL assets on screen. Texture work is far superior at higher resolution, assets are not blurred meaning higher polygon models are more relevant at distance, foliage is hugely impacted, and aliasing all but disappears at 4k. Image clarity effects literally everything on screen and isn't to be thrown out in comparisons.

Yes, I know this picture is a bit extreme as far as gameplay goes but it is very clear in how resolution impacts asset quality. Same amount of polygons, yet the 4k image looks to be a much higher quality model because of there are more pixels to display it. 4k isn't some glorified anti-aliasing solution that cows make it out to be, it greatly impacts the games presentation.

If you want to defined graphics as mesh, lighting, and texture quality explicitly state so, but this is as you say about "overall graphics prowess" which means AA/AF/and Res have a huge impact on the looks of the game. Yes, we can throw frame rate out of the picture.

Also saying console games never looks as good in person as they do in screenshots DOUBLE applies to PC games where users can just max out every parameter of a game to post an amazing looking "screenshot" that is unplayable IRL.

So in other words it doesn't apply double if you have a powerful PC. Tell the OP to edit the post to "Medium Standards" if that is the case, I'm assuming that he is talking about Ultra/1080p+/AA/16xAF. You can't make sweeping statements that PC game graphics are inferior or photomode is more important on PC because the 90% can't run top quality.

And do you have anything to support that other than your estimated opinion?

Do you have anything else other than your estimated opinion? You admitted that you don't have an objective source, so why are you (I assume) calling out the credibility of my observations? They have the same credibility as yours thus far. I judge games based on screenshots and videos that include HUD.

@locopatho:

You're attempting to argue a perfectly realistic brick wall "beats" a creative, exaggerated cartoon art style "objectively".

It does beat it objectively. If you think the other wall is prettier, that's subjective. Are you arguing the semantics of "objective", or are you just under the impression that you can't measure graphics objectively?

@AM-Gamer:

Which sources are claiming this, could you provide links please?

well said.

Do you consider Xbone more successful than PC?

@Cloud_imperium said:

Here we go again. No that's stupid. A Console powered by outdated hardware can not match the graphics of games created for High End PC hardware, especially in a world where devs like Epic Games, Crytek, CIG and many other exist that are known for pushing the technology forward.

In fact, Consoles never pushed the envelop ever since the 90s. Consoles always played ketchup and they are still playing it now. A lot of things PC games did many years ago are still not standard in Console games today, even in some or many areas they've been surpassed technically. For example I've yet to see a single Console game that matches the scope of World of Warcraft or I've yet to see Uncharted game where vegetation and buildings are destructible like Crysis.

It's hilarious how everyone was drooling over Uncharted 4's driving sections while that was something that was done better by Crysis back in 2007. Same was the case back in 90s when MGS was being crowned as "cinematic revolution" even though there were more well written cinematic games way before that.

History repeats itself. Just like the release of Uncharted 1,2 and 3, fanboys are now passing Uncharted 4 as so called graphics king while the fact is,,, just like those 3 games, it's extremely impressive Console game but it pales in comparison technically compared to PC games like The Climb, Battlefront and others. And with upcoming games like Unreal Tournament, Squadron 42, Battlefield 1 etc it doesn't even stand a chance. Sure if you like aesthetics of UC4 more than it's your opinion.

^^UC4 looks better than these? I highly doubt that. Sure if you like to play Console games and prefer to use Consoles then sure go ahead, but trying to pit Console graphics against PC is just stupid.

You nailed it cloud.

Won't be long before we get the "99% of PC's can't run X game at max settings so it doesn't count".

@davillain-: Thanks buddy.

Agreed.

I've been playing Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC, that looks better than Uncharted 4. So not sure what you're implying.

Keep dreaming.

Well according to cows it long surpassed Pixar pre-rendered movies so I don't think PC Games had any chance. Now if you bring professional sources like DF into the question, 900pStation is still trying to reach the bar set by Crysis 2 in 2011.

P.S. Loving the DC by cowarmy. :D

@zeeshanhaider:

He used The Order 1886 as a graphics standard lol. Maybe for vasoline commercials...

Oh don't worry pal, I'm still gonna play UC4 on my PS4. Being a Manticore in System Wars has it's advantages :P

It says a lot that pc gamers need to jump all the way back to Crysis 3 to put up even as remotely tangible argument - even within that context, it was designed for consoles from a once PC franchise abandoned.

PS4 games look incredible. I don't care if they don't match up to PC games, which I know they don't. I am perfectly happy with how they look regardless.

This is also true for Xbox One games- I think Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, and Quantum Break all look incredible. Hell, I think Wii U games look great, too- Mario Kart 8 is one of my favorite games ever, graphically speaking.

It's not just about the tech when it comes to how a game looks. The art, optimization, the usage of the resources you do have- all of that matters too.

I see casharmy has gone full Looney. Uncharted 4 is not setting new standards when it comes to graphics. As demonstrated in the thread there are many multiplatform games that look as good or better. However, when it comes to exclusives on the PC there is a lack of games on that level.

Uncharted 4 is a linear game of course if you scale a game down then the graphics can look better it's really not that hard to understand

UC4 looks good. The Order looks great. Driveclub looks amazin. I think it's funny how just because its a console means they can't push graphics. I mean sure when you look at something like AC games, the PC versions looks better..but who wastes their time with that kinda game anyways. Although there is something to say about brute force man. Crysis on PC maxed out with a high resolution still looks better than most console games today and it's not even funny.

@wizard:

It's gonna get worse come May 10 and we have the direct feed to compare to the promotional videos and the downgrades became apparent. I can't wait to see excuses like animation increases/decreases poly count. :D