Are You A Tool If You Buy Fallout 3?

If Diablo 3 turned first person, I'd wait outside of EB Games on the day of release with 5 of my D2 fanboy friends and we'd all have baseball bats.

Now I never played Fallout or Fallout 2 back in the day, but I'm sure there are many who are as passionate about the original Fallouts as I am about Diablo.

death919

I'm one of the Diablo, FAllout, System Shock and Deus Ex Fanboys. Sometimes I like the new direction of the games but you gotta keep a good amount of the old so you can please the hardcore people.

It's the kind of game that only losers played when it came out.

stepat201

Normally, I can accept opposing opinions. But you lose all credibility when you make statements like that. And it's not enough to play a game. You have to experience a game. You have to judge it by the games released at it's time, and you have to PLAY THROUGH the game. Some games don't get good until the end. I am not saying that's like Falliut 2, but if it's considered a classic by many, many people; perhaps you wrote it off too quickly and didn't give it the chance it deserved.

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

It's the kind of game that only losers played when it came out.

organic_machine

Normally, I can accept opposing opinions. But you lose all credibility when you make statements like that. And it's not enough to play a game. You have to experience a game. You have to judge it by the games released at it's time, and you have to PLAY THROUGH the game. Some games don't get good until the end. I am not saying that's like Falliut 2, but if it's considered a classic by many, many people; perhaps you wrote it off too quickly and didn't give it the chance it deserved.

I played it long enough. I got to the part where you rescue a merchant from bandits in a cave. That was far enough for me. The game was unbearable.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

It's the kind of game that only losers played when it came out.

stepat201

Normally, I can accept opposing opinions. But you lose all credibility when you make statements like that. And it's not enough to play a game. You have to experience a game. You have to judge it by the games released at it's time, and you have to PLAY THROUGH the game. Some games don't get good until the end. I am not saying that's like Falliut 2, but if it's considered a classic by many, many people; perhaps you wrote it off too quickly and didn't give it the chance it deserved.

I played it long enough. I got to the part where you rescue a merchant from bandits in a cave. That was far enough for me. The game was unbearable.

I remember arguing with someone that claimed that Doom sucked and that Halo was much better. I told him that you couldn't compare and I told him that he had to take into account the FPS genre at the time and what Doom did for the genre and the PC market. The same thing applies here. Before you write it off, educate yourself on the history of the genre, FINISH the game, then come back and say you don't like it. Even if you still hate it, I can respect you for giving it a fair chance. I ALMOST wrote Deus Ex off when I first started playing it. Until I got to Hong Kong, which is what sucked me in. I am so glad I didn't put that game aside. I would implore you to do the same.

You are affecting the course of the industry with every money spent. That doesnt make you a tool though, it makes you the backbone of the industry, the dollars. However the industry can affect you with "propaganda". But as long as you got a free will you wont be a tool.

[QUOTE="stepat201"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

It's the kind of game that only losers played when it came out.

organic_machine

Normally, I can accept opposing opinions. But you lose all credibility when you make statements like that. And it's not enough to play a game. You have to experience a game. You have to judge it by the games released at it's time, and you have to PLAY THROUGH the game. Some games don't get good until the end. I am not saying that's like Falliut 2, but if it's considered a classic by many, many people; perhaps you wrote it off too quickly and didn't give it the chance it deserved.

I played it long enough. I got to the part where you rescue a merchant from bandits in a cave. That was far enough for me. The game was unbearable.

I remember arguing with someone that claimed that Doom sucked and that Halo was much better. I told him that you couldn't compare and I told him that he had to take into account the FPS genre at the time and what Doom did for the genre and the PC market. The same thing applies here. Before you write it off, educate yourself on the history of the genre, FINISH the game, then come back and say you don't like it. Even if you still hate it, I can respect you for giving it a fair chance. I ALMOST wrote Deus Ex off when I first started playing it. Until I got to Hong Kong, which is what sucked me in. I am so glad I didn't put that game aside. I would implore you to do the same.

I would if the game wasn't unbearable.

I'm being serious when I say that I find it hard to play. Deus Ex I can relate with. I didn't get why everyone loved it so much until I got to Hells Kitchen but then I realised the genius.

Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.

Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.stepat201

I would if the game wasn't unbearable.

I'm being serious when I say that I find it hard to play. Deus Ex I can relate with. I didn't get why everyone loved it so much until I got to Hells Kitchen but then I realised the genius.

Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.

stepat201

Fair enough. But can you at least understand my frustrations about Fallout 3. I'm fine with the switch from isometric. I am fine with Bethesda making it. I am not fine with taking out the depth. If they added more depth to the game, I would be in line to buy it. But they took away so many great things!

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

I would if the game wasn't unbearable.

I'm being serious when I say that I find it hard to play. Deus Ex I can relate with. I didn't get why everyone loved it so much until I got to Hells Kitchen but then I realised the genius.

Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.

organic_machine

Fair enough. But can you at least understand my frustrations about Fallout 3. I'm fine with the switch from isometric. I am fine with Bethesda making it. I am not fine with taking out the depth. If they added more depth to the game, I would be in line to buy it. But they took away so many great things!

Fair enough. But there's always mods right?

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

I would if the game wasn't unbearable.

I'm being serious when I say that I find it hard to play. Deus Ex I can relate with. I didn't get why everyone loved it so much until I got to Hells Kitchen but then I realised the genius.

Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.

stepat201

Fair enough. But can you at least understand my frustrations about Fallout 3. I'm fine with the switch from isometric. I am fine with Bethesda making it. I am not fine with taking out the depth. If they added more depth to the game, I would be in line to buy it. But they took away so many great things!

Fair enough. But there's always mods right?

Thank goodness! I was one that preferred Morrowind way over Oblivion, and was pleased to find modders that agreed with me. The mod community really takes gaming to the next level, IMO, and is the reason I prefer PC gaming.

[QUOTE="stepat201"]Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.Vandalvideo

that is one of the most pretentious and elitist post ive ever read on SW. well done sir. id pass you your award but i cant reach you all the way up on your goldplated tower

yeah, how dare they change games! who has ever heard of that! those big mean jerk faces!diped

It's ironic because I was actually hoping Diablo 3 would be a first-person shooter with guns and stuff. :lol:

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="stepat201"]Fallout may have affected the RPG genre and turned it into what it is today so I respect that but as a game,I really don't like it.doobie1975

that is one of the most pretentious and elitist post ive ever read on SW. well done sir. id pass you your award but i cant reach you all the way up on your goldplated tower

This is by far the best example of a person resorting to trolling because he doesn't know how to argue. Sucks to be a loser sometimes, you should write a book on it. ;)

Yes ... A Tool with the GOTY in his hands ....soren008

Goty? I thought Spore was going to win that...

[QUOTE="legol1"]i never play any fallout games before just like oblivion was my first elder scroll . i dont understand why these games are so bash its make no sense to me oblivion won game of the year.clicketyclick

I know what you mean. I was certainly confused about that too. But that's why God invented the word "over-hyped", to describe games just like Oblivion.

I suppose it has to do with whether you've ever experienced something better than what Oblivion had to offer. Have you ever experienced an RPG that presented challenging, intimidating foes that you actually felt a sense of accomplishment and even some giddiness for having beaten? Have you ever experienced an RPG that made you actually upset over the fates of NPCs - actually care about them? Have you ever experienced an RPG that made you stop the game in order to think about a moral decision you had to make and weigh the consequences that would ensue? Have you ever experienced an RPG that made you careful and purposeful about the things you said and did, out of fear that NPCs might form unfavourable impressions of you or out of a desire to make yourself a celebrity whose name is instantly recognisable to everyone in the realm? How about one that you just want to replay to see all the different options and their effects and all the other guilds and spells and side-quests you didn't have access to because of your class and specialisation or school and in-game choices?

Well, if you haven't, that's a shame, because you're certainly not going to get any of that out of Oblivion.

I'm afraid Oblivions wasn't the "best rpg ever" but I just finished a lot of it (all except shivering isles and mages guild). Thhe quests are really cool, going into a mans painting and such are really fun. It does feel rewarding just crank the difficulty. I did feel upset *SPOILER*

When I did the dark brother hood quest and had to kill vincent valenteri. I did kill him to beat the quest but regreted it after because exeryone in there was awsome!

*SPOILER OFF*

Maybe you wont get much out of it because you sad fallout 3 isn't isometric and a clone of fallout 2 or are you just ...nevermind

if Fallout 3 is an example of the corporate machine destroying everything pure and grand about a beloved franchine, then does buying Fallout 3 and supporting the corporate machine make you a tool?

Boogie_J

Are you another example of a Fallout fanboy who can't handle change? Do you just assume anyone who wants this game is an automatic "tool" because teh Fallout 3 doesn't follow the exact same pattern of teh Fallout 2? Oh noez! :|

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

if Fallout 3 is an example of the corporate machine destroying everything pure and grand about a beloved franchine, then does buying Fallout 3 and supporting the corporate machine make you a tool?

AvIdGaMeR444

Are you another example of a Fallout fanboy who can't handle change? Do you just assume anyone who wants this game is an automatic "tool" because teh Fallout 3 doesn't follow the exact same pattern of teh Fallout 2? Oh noez! :|

I never actually stated my opinion on fallout 3, i just posed the question.

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

if Fallout 3 is an example of the corporate machine destroying everything pure and grand about a beloved franchine, then does buying Fallout 3 and supporting the corporate machine make you a tool?

Boogie_J

Are you another example of a Fallout fanboy who can't handle change? Do you just assume anyone who wants this game is an automatic "tool" because teh Fallout 3 doesn't follow the exact same pattern of teh Fallout 2? Oh noez! :|

I never actually stated my opinion on fallout 3, i just posed the question.

Fair enough. No, I don't feel like I'm a "tool" if I buy Fallout 3. Nobody should feel that way after buying a game (unless it is Big Rigs).

I

Who cares about the die hard Fallout fans?

Even if this game is in another direction, F3 looks really fun.

LagSwitch

[spoiler] tool [/spoiler]

call me a hammer and put me in the Toolbox cuz i'm buying the gamest1ka

LOL!

I vote option #6: You may be a tool if you have already made a decision not to buy a game before it's out and available for review and play.SecretPolice

You'll be a tool to the kids on System wars, and that's it... so who gives a crap right?

JK System Wars is serious business. Don't be a tool.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I vote option #6: You may be a tool if you have already made a decision not to buy a game before it's out and available for review and play.Jandurin

Why do I get the distinct feeling that some of the people voting option one would have been the type to do things like book burnings and become religious fanatics if they were born in other places, other times?Shafftehr

There are tons of people like that even today, especially in the middle east. Maybe Fallout 3 will be a big hit in the middle east. If it does, I called it first!

You'll be a tool to the kids on System wars, and that's it... so who gives a crap right?

JK System Wars is series business. Don't be a tool.

tccavey2

fixed

Who cares?

As long as I think the game looks/is good in my opinion, then I will look into buying the game.

It's like a high school in here sometimes.

Never played the previous Fallouts and this one looks like crap to me.

think of it this way fallout-fans: there is no fallout 3

happy? you take what you get; there might have never, ever been a sequel to fallout at all but bethesda stepped up to help.

After watching the latest trailer for this game where you have to blow up a town with a nuke I'm pumped for this game. It looks great and I'll be there day one. I also own Fallout 1 and 2 and don't have a problem with the direction the series is going.