Are You A Tool If You Buy Fallout 3?

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#151 IgGy621985
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Never been a hardcore Fallout fan, but I played both. Still gonna get this one for PC 'cause modding community will hopefully repair and improve everything Bethesda screws-up.
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#152 Senor_Kami
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Fallout 3 looks to be a AAA quality game from every hands-on preview i've read. I think you're a tool if you've jumped on the bandwagon of saying, "its different so it crap". Unless you played it at PAX or something and have first hand experience, you can't pass judgement. Or you should at least admit that your judement on the quality of gameplay isn't based on having actually played the game and discredit virtually 100% of people who have played the game... which begs the question: what on earth are you basing your opinions off of? Anything logical or just the baseless bandwagon?

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#153 vivelaps3
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this game is going to be a-w-e-s-o-m-e
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#154 Hewkii
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Unless you played it at PAX or something and have first hand experience, you can't pass judgement. Or you should at least admit that your judement on the quality of gameplay isn't based on having actually played the game

Senor_Kami

works both ways bub...

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#155 12345yon
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cmon ppl you cant expect a franchise to be the same that you played 20 years ago, we are talking about new ppl who just care about how many gore a game has, you need to "evolve" IMO
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#156 RobbieH1234
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Fallout 3 looks to be a AAA quality game from every hands-on preview i've read. I think you're a tool if you've jumped on the bandwagon of saying, "its different so it crap". Unless you played it at PAX or something and have first hand experience, you can't pass judgement. Or you should at least admit that your judement on the quality of gameplay isn't based on having actually played the game and discredit virtually 100% of people who have played the game... which begs the question: what on earth are you basing your opinions off of? Anything logical or just the baseless bandwagon?

Senor_Kami
Those are some fine double standards you've got there.
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#157 Cocacolacowboy
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i think people who think bethsoft cant do any wrong,are just as big of tools as people who blindly hate this game.

as for me..i'm over the fact thats its been dumbed down for the halotards..it is what it is.when it comes out.i'll play it,if its good,then its good,if it sucks,then whatever,i'll trade it in.

at any rate.it cant be any worse than FO:BOS

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#158 Senor_Kami
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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

Fallout 3 looks to be a AAA quality game from every hands-on preview i've read. I think you're a tool if you've jumped on the bandwagon of saying, "its different so it crap". Unless you played it at PAX or something and have first hand experience, you can't pass judgement. Or you should at least admit that your judement on the quality of gameplay isn't based on having actually played the game and discredit virtually 100% of people who have played the game... which begs the question: what on earth are you basing your opinions off of? Anything logical or just the baseless bandwagon?

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Those are some fine double standards you've got there.

Not really. I'm saying that almost all of us have had ZERO play time with Fallout 3. The only people who have played it all say that its good. When you say that fallout 3 will be crap... what is that based off of? Its not personal experience or even the opinions of people who have played it.

Even if I do have double standards, how does the change the point the people are knocking the game based off of nothing?

Maybe I should respond to your post and say, "Thats some nicead hominemyou've got there." I guess the hope was that, if I have double standards then logically Fallout 3 must be a crap game...:roll:

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#159 RobbieH1234
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Not really. I'm saying that almost all of us have had ZERO play time with Fallout 3.Senor_Kami

Yet you're in a position to say it'll be awesome, whereas I'm apparently not even though we have access to the same information.

The only people who have played it all say that its good.Senor_Kami
Not really. There are numerous previewers (mostly European) who dislike certain aspects of the game.

When you say that fallout 3 will be crap... what is that based off of?Senor_Kami
The same previews/interviews/gameplay videos that you base your "It'll be awesome" off of.

Its not personal experience or even the opinions of people who have played it.Senor_Kami
Wait...so my opinion of Fallout 3 should be the same as some previewer? All the information is open to discussion and interpretation. Most previewers love the fatman, I think it has no place within the setting. Who's right?

Even if I do have double standards, how does the change the point the people are knocking the game based off of nothing?Senor_Kami
If we're criticising it "based off of nothing", then you're praising it "based off of nothing". Just because some previewers are ready to declare it as "Game of the Year", it doesn't give strength to your argument. It's the same as hiding behind review scores to justify your love of a certain game.

Maybe I should respond to your post and say, "Thats some nice ad hominem you've got there."

Senor_Kami
I pointed out the flaw in your argument (double standard), I didn't attack you.
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#160 leejohnson7
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These fallout threads create quite the show on system wars. Either way from what I read in other articles and information about the game, it isn't going to be too great.
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#161 VoodooGamer
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Not really. I'm saying that almost all of us have had ZERO play time with Fallout 3.Senor_Kami

Irrelavant. ;)

The only people who have played it all say that its good. When you say that fallout 3 will be crap... what is that based off of? Its not personal experience or even the opinions of people who have played it.Senor

A preview is supposed to make people want to play the game and it can also keep people from buying it. ;) Also, appealing to an authority is a logical fallacy.

Even if I do have double standards, how does the change the point the people are knocking the game based off of nothing?Senor

Some kind of strawman. :roll: Tactless though. :P

Maybe I should respond to your post and say, "Thats some nicead hominemyou've got there." I guess the hope was that, if I have double standards then logically Fallout 3 must be a crap game...:roll:

Senor

No, not really. You sir fail at debating. :lol:

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#162 Krigon
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cmon ppl you cant expect a franchise to be the same that you played 20 years ago, we are talking about new ppl who just care about how many gore a game has, you need to "evolve" IMO12345yon

Diablo 3 and starcraft 2 using the same formula they used +10 years ago.

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#163 Jamex1987
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WTH are you talking about? Half the people here never heard of fallout and never played it. The last game was 10 years ago. lol

It's just a game.

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#164 -TheSecondSign-
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No, and I've never played Fallout or Fallout 2 and never cared that I haven't, noone should have to be attacked for buying and enjoying a game, regardless of what it is. It's not your right to tell people what a game they enjoy is or is not. They are allowed to make a decision for themselves, over wether it is good or bad, or even of the same quality as the original, you communists.

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#165 12345yon
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[QUOTE="12345yon"]cmon ppl you cant expect a franchise to be the same that you played 20 years ago, we are talking about new ppl who just care about how many gore a game has, you need to "evolve" IMOKrigon

Diablo 3 and starcraft 2 using the same formula they used +10 years ago.

yea, but they obviously upgraded it, you wont play the same game, they change some things here and there