At this point can we consider Team Fortress 2 a PC "Exclusive"?

With the PC you get the real Hat Economy Simulator game with the FPS add on. The 360 just has the FPS add on.ferret-gamer

That joke is getting old...:roll:

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]With the PC you get the real Hat Economy Simulator game with the FPS add on. The 360 just has the FPS add on.Goyoshi12

That joke is getting old...:roll:

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]With the PC you get the real Hat Economy Simulator game with the FPS add on. The 360 just has the FPS add on.Ravensmash

That joke is getting old...:roll:

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Love the vanilla TF2 on xbox 360 so yeah you can take the not-so-awesome PC version as exclusive.

Harisemo

And what makes the PC version not-so-awesome?

All the updates and new weapons really ruin the awesome fun that was original TF2, TF2 is still a great game on PC though

I think that's subjective. Some people LOVE the new hats and Mann Co. stuff because it keeps the game a bit fresh.

Other people think its kind of an extra money waster or doesn't add much to the core gameplay aside from hats and an occasional little buff or perk (including Zero Punctuation's Yahtzee who thinks Valve is overdoing it and will never "perfect" it)

Personally I'm in between. I feel like the hats are just kind of pointless and they could use all the time making those hats into more Left 4 Dead 2 content (I haven't seen new content for it in ages other then the remade L4D1 maps a few months ago). Though I do think some of the additions like maps and weapons are cool, the hats are, well... dumb, and not what I look for in character customization.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

But as a previous poster admitted "TF2 was an afterthought" on consoles. It's a full fledged game on PC. It's borderline a "Demo" of TF2 on consoles.

vtoshkatur

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] lol. Its a game, that is released on multiple platforms, it is not an exclusive regardless of if it was an after thought or not. If they gave it to console owners as a free download outside the Orange box, it would still not be an exclusive. BibiMaghoo

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

Even if the best version has 1000's of times more content?

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] lol. Its a game, that is released on multiple platforms, it is not an exclusive regardless of if it was an after thought or not. If they gave it to console owners as a free download outside the Orange box, it would still not be an exclusive. BibiMaghoo

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

ferret-gamer

^This, If TF2 is a multiplat can we consider MW2,BO and MW3 the same game?

No,not really.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

vtoshkatur

Even if the best version has 1000's of times more content?

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] That really doesnt matter though, the core game is multiplat. Its not arguable, no matter how you look at it. its a fact that the game is on multiple platforms, missing content or not. BibiMaghoo

Even if the best version has 1000's of times more content?

Because the PC version has some more DLC and post release content, doesn't make the fact that TF2 is a multiplat any less true.

The argument that the extra DLC makes it not count, is like saying GTA IV was totally 360 exclusive because it had the two Episodes DLC exclusive for a while.

Its still the same damn game, plays the same, same name, graphics, engine, content, etc. Just the stuff after Valve didn't put on consoles, which honestly does not affect the gameplay, graphics or base game one bit. Its just "more" TF2, but still TF2.

IMO all multiplats are PC exclusive. The level of improvement on PC makes it a different game.

haberman13

I think this could be said about Valve games that are late in their "lives".

Left 4 Dead 2 on the PC has a new campaign, along with L4D1 campaigns. Dunno how long post-release support for Portal 2 PS3 will last.

I think this could be said about Valve games that are late in their "lives".

Left 4 Dead 2 on the PC has a new campaign, along with L4D1 campaigns. Dunno how long post-release support for Portal 2 PS3 will last.

flashn00b

Since Sony is buddy buddy with them, has an open online, and full allows Steamworks, I think it will probably last as long as the PC's post release support lasts.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] lol. Its a game, that is released on multiple platforms, it is not an exclusive regardless of if it was an after thought or not. If they gave it to console owners as a free download outside the Orange box, it would still not be an exclusive. BibiMaghoo

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

You do realize that the first GRAW is considered exclusive in SW because of how different the game is between platforms, right?

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Team fortress 2 on consoles have about 1% of the content that's avalible for PC. Looking at it like that the console version is actually way less then most game demos.

topgunmv

You do realize that the first GRAW is considered exclusive in SW because of how different the game is between platforms, right?

TF2 is a PC exclusive. So is Half Life 1 & 2. and CS/CSS

Love the vanilla TF2 on xbox 360 so yeah you can take the not-so-awesome PC version as exclusive.

Harisemo

Not really. It's on Mac, 360 and PS3. Even with the whole update stuff isn't the Mac version up to date?vashkey

All valve games are PC exclusive.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Not really. It's on Mac, 360 and PS3. Even with the whole update stuff isn't the Mac version up to date?themagicbum9720

I consider the Mac and PC version's of TF2 equal, the same platform (Steam) and the same game.

All valve games are PC exclusive.

kraken2109

So Portal 2 wasn't "consolized" like some claimed? :P

TF2 is a PC exclusive. So is Half Life 1 & 2. and CS/CSS

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

TF2 is a PC exclusive. So is Half Life 1 & 2. and CS/CSS

BibiMaghoo

Because Valve actually supports their games on PC. Not abbandon them like they do with every title they ever released for console.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

TF2 is a PC exclusive. So is Half Life 1 & 2. and CS/CSS

vtoshkatur

Because Valve actually supports their games on PC. Not abbandon them like they do with every title they ever released for console.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] lol, how are they exclusives when they are on other platforms? Do people understand what the word means? BibiMaghoo

Because Valve actually supports their games on PC. Not abbandon them like they do with every title they ever released for console.

Plus, the continuing Portal 2 support for PS3 is abandoning it? Really?

Anyways, saying TF2 should be considered "exclusive" is just retarded. Then you would still have Team Fortress 2 on consoles, the same game, the same name.

Its like saying The Godfather doesn't exist anywhere but Blu Ray because it has a few more "making of" segments and looks prettier.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Because Valve actually supports their games on PC. Not abbandon them like they do with every title they ever released for console.

SPYDER0416

Plus, the continuing Portal 2 support for PS3 is abandoning it? Really?

Anyways, saying TF2 should be considered "exclusive" is just retarded. Then you would still have Team Fortress 2 on consoles, the same game, the same name.

Its like saying The Godfather doesn't exist anywhere but Blu Ray because it has a few more "making of" segments and looks prettier.

But thats the thing, TF2 on consoles IS NOT the same game anymore. Not even close.

But it is the same game :P I give up lol. If people want to belive that a game released on multiple platforms is an exclusive, then I guess you can believe that, it doesnt really effect me. It doesnt make it true though lol. BibiMaghoo

Common sense says that the PC version is the "definitive" version not an exclusive to the platform though.

rasengan2552

The current version of TF2 bear little resemblance to the release version, so yeah.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]But it is the same game :P I give up lol. If people want to belive that a game released on multiple platforms is an exclusive, then I guess you can believe that, it doesnt really effect me. It doesnt make it true though lol. meetroid8

The console version of TF2 is superior anyways; better teamwork, more balanced, no stupid hats. The only downside is the lack of variety in maps.

The console version of TF2 is superior anyways; better teamwork, more balanced, no stupid hats. The only downside is the lack of variety in maps.

Socijalisticka

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]But it is the same game :P I give up lol. If people want to belive that a game released on multiple platforms is an exclusive, then I guess you can believe that, it doesnt really effect me. It doesnt make it true though lol. BibiMaghoo

http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/tf2.html See the bit where it says available platforms, and the bit that lists more than the PC......Thats because its a MULTIPLATFORM GAME lol You are arguing against the people that made it, that tells me you are very wrong :P BibiMaghoo

Well maybe I like being wrong ok =P

http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/tf2.html See the bit where it says available platforms, and the bit that lists more than the PC......Thats because its a MULTIPLATFORM GAME lol You are arguing against the people that made it, that tells me you are very wrong :P BibiMaghoo

So, we can remove MLB 10 and 11 as PS3 exclusives?

Exclusive is usually a term used when you are bragging about how one system is better than the other. TF2 on PC is a totally different game, honestly (okay a bit of an exaggeration) But it's not just small updates, these are massive, game changing ones. New maps, new guns, items, features ,etc. Theres enough in the updates to warrant a sequel.

Exclusive is usually a term used when you are bragging about how one system is better than the other. TF2 on PC is a totally different game, honestly (okay a bit of an exaggeration) But it's not just small updates, these are massive, game changing ones. New maps, new guns, items, features ,etc. Theres enough in the updates to warrant a sequel.

OB-47

I actually wonder how long it would take to update the vanilla version of TF2 to what it is now. The download time would be unreal.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/tf2.html See the bit where it says available platforms, and the bit that lists more than the PC......Thats because its a MULTIPLATFORM GAME lol You are arguing against the people that made it, that tells me you are very wrong :P lundy86_4

So, we can remove MLB 10 and 11 as PS3 exclusives?

If this logic is to be applied, then Bioshock is a PS3 exclusive, as it has extra content. You see how silly that is lol.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/tf2.html See the bit where it says available platforms, and the bit that lists more than the PC......Thats because its a MULTIPLATFORM GAME lol You are arguing against the people that made it, that tells me you are very wrong :P vtoshkatur

Well maybe I like being wrong ok =P

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Lets see

the PC has

Motion Controller support (Razer Hydra)

ITS FREEE TO PLAY!

The many mods that give the game extra content

dem hats

the fact we actually get updates

and that pretty much no one plays it on consoles

NoodleFighter

A sh*t ton of people disagree

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] The game sucks regardless. Its like they needed one more company title to tack on to the Orange Box, "baaahh what the hell, throw in TF2".lowe0

A sh*t ton of people disagree

First off how did he defend Call of Duty? Arn't other games allowed to be popular.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

IMO all multiplats are PC exclusive. The level of improvement on PC makes it a different game.

SPYDER0416

And the stupidest thing I've heard yet on SW award goes to...

This guy I quoted. Boy, I am just so proud to be a PC gamer when I can be compared to people like this.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

A sh*t ton of people disagree

vtoshkatur

First off how did he defend Call of Duty? Arn't other games allowed to be popular.

And yes, any game is allowed to be popular. I just like attacking bad arguments, and with all the hatred Call of Duty gets around here, it amuses me to point out the similarity.