At this point can we consider Team Fortress 2 a PC "Exclusive"?

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#101 DarthBilf
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All valve games are PC exclusive.

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Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?
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#102 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

All valve games are PC exclusive.

DarthBilf

Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

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#103 skrat_01
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Common sense says that the PC version is the "definitive" version not an exclusive to the platform though.

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Have to say as far as SW logic goes, I agree.
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#104 lowe0
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[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

All valve games are PC exclusive.

vtoshkatur

Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....
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#105 Warhawk_
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It's not. It's on consoles too. But the pc version is the best one overall.

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#106 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?lowe0

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....

To be fair to TC you should post your sources when making a claim, not get pissy when someone asks you for proof lol
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#107 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?lowe0

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....

Why make the effort when I can have a lazy consolite do it for me ;)

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#108 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

BibiMaghoo

Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....

To be fair to TC you should post your sources when making a claim, not get pissy when someone asks you for proof lol

I'm not the one who made the claim, and yet I still found the proof in the time it would have taken him to look for it himself. So no, no sympathy.

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#109 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....lowe0

To be fair to TC you should post your sources when making a claim, not get pissy when someone asks you for proof lol

I'm not the one who made the claim, and yet I still found the proof in the time it would have taken him to look for it himself. So no, no sympathy.

Sorry dude, I thought it was you, Ive had a drink lol. My bad for sure.
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#110 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

vtoshkatur

Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....

Why make the effort when I can have a lazy consolite do it for me ;)

Quit winking as though you and I are friendly. We're not.

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#111 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Here's a crazy thought: you could read an interview with the head of the company. http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/portal-2-pc-sold-better-than-console-sku-says-valve/ "Portal 2 did better on the PC than it did on the consoles; Left 4 Dead did better on the consoles than it did on the PC." Was 30 seconds of Google too much effort for you? And people call we consolites lazy....lowe0

Why make the effort when I can have a lazy consolite do it for me ;)

Quit winking as though you and I are friendly. We're not.

No reason to be hostile friend. I'm friendly with everyone so I guess you're stuck with me being friendly to you, No matter what =)

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#112 Wasdie  Moderator
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With TF2 yes. It's a totally different game now.

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#113 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

All valve games are PC exclusive.

vtoshkatur

Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?

How do you know L4D sold better on consoles if Valve doesn't release sale numbers?

Gabe said l4d2 sold better on consoles.
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#114 LegatoSkyheart
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I Almost forgot there was an Orange Box for the PS3 and 360

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#115 arto1223
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IMO all multiplats are PC exclusive. The level of improvement on PC makes it a different game.

haberman13

Ouch, that's even a little too far for me (but not really, but yea, but not really).

I don't consider it a PC exclusive, but I consider it to be a PC game. Same thing with BF3. Yea, they are both on consoles as well, but the experience and amount of content that the PC version has just makes it far superior over normal multiplats (not just better controls, graphics, mods, and dedicated servers).

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#116 heeeeeeeeeweeee
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Nope quake 1 team fortress is still better

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#117 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Nope quake 1 team fortress is still better

heeeeeeeeeweeee
So according to you, Quake TF is better than TF2, therefore TF2 is a multiplat. That is impeccable logic right there. :roll:
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#118 silversix_
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Only tried it on 360 back in 07 and it was a boring mess.
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#119 vtoshkatur
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Only tried it on 360 back in 07 and it was a boring mess.silversix_

Should try it now on PC, What do you have to lose its free!

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#120 arto1223
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[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

Nope quake 1 team fortress is still better

ferret-gamer

So according to you, Quake TF is better than TF2, therefore TF2 is a multiplat. That is impeccable logic right there. :roll:

Lol, ok. I thought I was reading that wrong but what he wrote really does make no sense.

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#121 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Why make the effort when I can have a lazy consolite do it for me ;)

vtoshkatur

Quit winking as though you and I are friendly. We're not.

No reason to be hostile friend. I'm friendly with everyone so I guess you're stuck with me being friendly to you, No matter what =)

If you have an actual argument to contribute, I'm listening. Otherwise, save it.
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#122 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Quit winking as though you and I are friendly. We're not.

lowe0

No reason to be hostile friend. I'm friendly with everyone so I guess you're stuck with me being friendly to you, No matter what =)

If you have an actual argument to contribute, I'm listening. Otherwise, save it.

Whatever you say friendo =)

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#123 calebcop
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TF2 is AA on gamespot so it nobody really cares if it exclusive or not. As for my opinion, I play on PC but the console versions are still good enough to warrant it as a multiplat. Heck, some of the lovers of TF2 would say the game was better in its original form, before the hats, and that is the console version.

15strong

I like the weapons, but running around like an idiot all the freaking time trying to get stupid hats is not my idea of fun. Plus I wish everything wasn't so random about the game. There is pretty much no way to unlock anything. It's just "hope" you find it. And ranks would be nice.

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#124 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

That joke is getting old...:roll:

ferret-gamer

I don't think that was a joke.

Only partially, the "FPS add on" thing was a joke, that is the main game. But TF2 most definitely has a fully fledged economy centered around hats.

If its centered in hats then why do I not give a @#$% about the hats and why do I not see many players with hats on? :|

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#125 UnrealLegend
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Nope.avi

The game is still on consoles, even if it's an inferior, outdated version. Not exclusive.

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#126 lundy86_4
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If its centered in hats then why do I not give a @#$% about the hats and why do I not see many players with hats on? :|

Goyoshi12

Fully fledged economy centered around hats =/= the game is centered around hats.

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#127 Badosh
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Nope, nope and nope. I still can play the game on my 360, therefore not exclusive. Deal with it.
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#128 vtoshkatur
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Nope, nope and nope. I still can play the game on my 360, therefore not exclusive. Deal with it.Badosh

You can play a TF2 demo on your 360. Not the full game. And thats what all this comes down too. Is TF2 for consoles is simply not the full game. It's like a extended preview of the game. Not a full product compaired to the PC version. Not even close.

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#129 lundy86_4
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Nope, nope and nope. I still can play the game on my 360, therefore not exclusive. Deal with it.Badosh

By that logic, MLB 10 and 11 are not exclusive. The game can be played on other systems. However, they have been deemed exclusive.

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#130 Badosh
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By that logic, MLB 10 and 11 are not exclusive. The game can be played on other systems. However, they have been deemed exclusive.lundy86_4
And in my opinion, I wouldn't consider them an exclusive.
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#131 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]By that logic, MLB 10 and 11 are not exclusive. The game can be played on other systems. However, they have been deemed exclusive.Badosh
And in my opinion, I wouldn't consider them an exclusive.

That's fair. However, you told TC to "Deal with it" as though it were fact. That, or your opinion dictates what is exclusive or not.

In reality, TC's argument has merit. We've seen games be deemed exclusive for less.

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#132 KC_Hokie
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Where do I check the 'who cares' box? I've played it on both PC and Xbox 360 over the years and just don't think it's that great of a game. And Valve is one of my favorite developers. Give me CS any day.
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#133 Badosh
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]That's fair. However, you told TC to "Deal with it" as though it were fact. That, or your opinion dictates what is exclusive or not. In reality, TC's argument has merit. We've seen games be deemed exclusive for less.>

Your right, it's my opinion and I shouldn't of just said, "deal with it." Where I'm getting at is that it's a what 4 year old game? Why does it matter at this point to now, consider it an exclusive. The TC did have fair enough points, but either way, it's not an exclusive and shouldn't be changed now. While I do agree it's far superior on PC, it's just not worth the effort, imo.
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#134 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]That's fair. However, you told TC to "Deal with it" as though it were fact. That, or your opinion dictates what is exclusive or not. In reality, TC's argument has merit. We've seen games be deemed exclusive for less.>Badosh
Your right, it's my opinion and I shouldn't of just said, "deal with it." Where I'm getting at is that it's a what 4 year old game? Why does it matter at this point to now, consider it an exclusive. The TC did have fair enough points, but either way, it's not an exclusive and shouldn't be changed now. While I do agree it's far superior on PC, it's just not worth the effort, imo.

Certainly true enough :P

At this point, it certainly wouldn't be a huge deal. Especially with the generation coming to an end.

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#135 hensothor
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It is. There are games considered exclusive for far less than what TF2 offers on PC.
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#136 deactivated-5df236af85f29
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sure, why not...

most console gamers couldn't care less about that game anyways.

lazerface216

Its ok.they can sleep with their cod copy for all i care.while i enjoy the awesomeness that is tf2

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#137 princeofshapeir
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Only tried it on 360 back in 07 and it was a boring mess.silversix_
It's a radically different game now. It has evolved into my favorite multiplayer FPS of this gen, hands-down.
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#138 deactivated-5df236af85f29
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

All valve games are PC exclusive.

DarthBilf

Even L4D, which sold better on the 360 than it did the PC?

YOU are using sales as ownage method?next time try to use game quality instead of sales.

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#139 timmy00
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I say it is.

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#140 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

sure, why not...

most console gamers couldn't care less about that game anyways.

shreshto

Its ok.they can sleep with their cod copy for all i care.while i enjoy the awesomeness that is tf2

Yeah the COD fanboys just wish their game was 1/100th of the game TF2 is.

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#141 lowe0
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[QUOTE="shreshto"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

sure, why not...

most console gamers couldn't care less about that game anyways.

vtoshkatur

Its ok.they can sleep with their cod copy for all i care.while i enjoy the awesomeness that is tf2

Yeah the COD fanboys just wish their game was 1/100th of the game TF2 is.

If that were actually true, why wouldn't they just switch to TF2?
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#142 LazySloth718
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PC's don't have exclusives.

TF2 was ok but there's better stuff out there.

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#143 Arach666
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TF2 as a standalone game is already a PC exclusive since day 1.
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#144 superapo
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Don't forget TF2 is also on Mac ;)

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#145 lowe0
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Don't forget TF2 is also on Mac ;)

superapo
Nah; it was settled back around the release of SC II that Mac gamers are PC gamers. Watching PC gamers suddenly embrace Mac users as equals was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen on here.
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#146 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="superapo"]

Don't forget TF2 is also on Mac ;)

lowe0
Nah; it was settled back around the release of SC II that Mac gamers are PC gamers. Watching PC gamers suddenly embrace Mac users as equals was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen on here.

It wasnt sealed back on anything,PC and Mac are the same thing,personal computers. Wich is why we have a forum called PC and Mac games but not one called PS3 and 360 games.
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#147 Jane_22
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I think console gamers dont even play the game...

But for the pc this is an amazing game, i kinda sad i started playing it late but im having so much fun.

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#148 Am_Confucius
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Yes. Anything else is silly.

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#149 vtoshkatur
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PC's don't have exclusives.

TF2 was ok but there's better stuff out there.

LazySloth718

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#150 lundy86_4
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PC's don't have exclusives.

LazySloth718

Well, I fail to see the logic behind that.