Batman: Arkham City has restored my faith in the video game medium

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#101 campzor
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....becauuusseee?
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#102 FrozenLiquid
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As much as I love the franchise the PC version is kind of a mess.

MasterShake, you can't like this game, it was actually good.

heretrix
Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.
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#103 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

As much as I love the franchise the PC version is kind of a mess.

MasterShake, you can't like this game, it was actually good.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.

I don't know. I'm getting a solid 80 FPS with the benchmark and there still stuttering all over the place. It's a shame because the game is goddamn beautiful. Also, what the hell do devs have against you knowing where your save games are? I recently setup one of my gaming PCs to a Win8 box and was moving all of my stuff over, but I can't find my goddamn game saves ANYWHERE. It's crazy. There's a folder for it in my docs, but the gamesave folder is empty.

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#104 GD1551
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

As much as I love the franchise the PC version is kind of a mess.

MasterShake, you can't like this game, it was actually good.

heretrix

Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.

I don't know. I'm getting a solid 80 FPS with the benchmark and there still stuttering all over the place. It's a shame because the game is goddamn beautiful. Also, what the hell do devs have against you knowing where your save games are? I recently setup one of my gaming PCs to a Win8 box and was moving all of my stuff over, but I can't find my goddamn game saves ANYWHERE. It's crazy. There's a folder for it in my docs, but the gamesave folder is empty.

Is it using steam's cloud saving?

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#105 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.GD1551

I don't know. I'm getting a solid 80 FPS with the benchmark and there still stuttering all over the place. It's a shame because the game is goddamn beautiful. Also, what the hell do devs have against you knowing where your save games are? I recently setup one of my gaming PCs to a Win8 box and was moving all of my stuff over, but I can't find my goddamn game saves ANYWHERE. It's crazy. There's a folder for it in my docs, but the gamesave folder is empty.

Is it using steam's cloud saving?

yeah, but when I moved my stuff over it had no option to continue from where I left of......Ahh.. I remember now. I was playing on GFWL and when I started over I decided not to deal with that garbage and play it Steam only. I had no Steamcloud saves.

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#106 GD1551
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yeah, but when I moved my stuff over it had no option to continue from where I left of......Ahh.. I remember now. I was playing on GFWL and when I started over I decided not to deal with that garbage and play it Steam only. I had no Steamcloud saves.

heretrix

Ah ok, because when I uninstalled ME2 and reinstalled it I was surprised to see my saves come back haha.

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#107 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

yeah, but when I moved my stuff over it had no option to continue from where I left of......Ahh.. I remember now. I was playing on GFWL and when I started over I decided not to deal with that garbage and play it Steam only. I had no Steamcloud saves.

GD1551

Ah ok, because when I uninstalled ME2 and reinstalled it I was surprised to see my saves come back haha.

Yeah, they both use cloud saving on all of their new games..

Surpisingly, I find Origin's method of transferring your games to a new machine a bit more user friendly than Steam. In both cases it would be wise to store your games on a separate drive so that you don't have to redownload them when you build a new PC or reinstall a new os. On Origin you just point the Origin client to the folder where your games are and it will just reinstall them. With Steam you have to copy the steamapps folder to the new Steam directory. I have over 100 gigs of Steam games, that takes a long time. Still, not as long as if I had to redownload everything tho.

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#108 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I don't know. I'm getting a solid 80 FPS with the benchmark and there still stuttering all over the place. It's a shame because the game is goddamn beautiful. Also, what the hell do devs have against you knowing where your save games are? I recently setup one of my gaming PCs to a Win8 box and was moving all of my stuff over, but I can't find my goddamn game saves ANYWHERE. It's crazy. There's a folder for it in my docs, but the gamesave folder is empty.

heretrix

Is it using steam's cloud saving?

yeah, but when I moved my stuff over it had no option to continue from where I left of......Ahh.. I remember now. I was playing on GFWL and when I started over I decided not to deal with that garbage and play it Steam only. I had no Steamcloud saves.

How do you not deal with GFWL and just use Steam?
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#109 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Is it using steam's cloud saving?

FrozenLiquid

yeah, but when I moved my stuff over it had no option to continue from where I left of......Ahh.. I remember now. I was playing on GFWL and when I started over I decided not to deal with that garbage and play it Steam only. I had no Steamcloud saves.

How do you not deal with GFWL and just use Steam?

When you install the game for the first time just start playing and don't choose GFWL.It didn't ask me to install GFWL and I didn't. There is also a GFWL uninstaller out there that will remove GFWL from your games. The only problem is you will lose all progress. But really all you have to do is find the saves folder in your GFWL profile and move them to the standard gamesave folder.

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#110 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Well,yeah. I have to. pillock.freedomfreak

When does your bet end? Lol.

12 PM today.
Can't wait for it to end.
degenerate fvcktard

Yeah well ...I have nothing to say ..i just want to be insulted by you....is that so wrong
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#111 Mr_Cumberdale
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Meh, Batman is a boring series.. skip.
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#112 spiderluck
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I could shoot myself ...i agree with Arkephonic..i thought Asylum was the better game [ maybe the novelty, the slightly claustrophobic tension ]...although AC is an amazing game in it's own right....
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#113 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

As much as I love the franchise the PC version is kind of a mess.

MasterShake, you can't like this game, it was actually good.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.

wha... how do you get double DRM? :?

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#114 Swanogt19
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Plan on picking the GOTY edition once the price goes down a bit.
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#115 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]awesome game but not the best from last year imo. mitu123
What was it, Skyrim?

yea, for me that was my favorite game from last year, ive put over 200 hours into it
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#116 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] When does your bet end? Lol.

spiderluck

12 PM today.
Can't wait for it to end.
degenerate fvcktard

Yeah well ...I have nothing to say ..i just want to be insulted by you....is that so wrong

6 hours left :P cvntface
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#117 RR360DD
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Arkham Asylum was much better.
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#118 dj_pulserfan
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meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

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#119 arkephonic
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meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

dj_pulserfan

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#120 FrozenLiquid
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meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

dj_pulserfan
Um, but the best element of the game is not the story. It's the gameplay.
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#121 Mr_Ditters
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[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

FrozenLiquid

Um, but the best element of the game is not the story. It's the gameplay.

I found the combat to be pretty simplistic. You can get through most fights by hitting a single button. The animations do rest, making it look like you accomplished something spectacular.

The game as whole is fine, but the combat is pretty lame imo.

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#122 santoron
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MasterShake actually hyping a genuinely great game? Did pigs evolve wings? Did W Bush learn proper english? Did hell become the premiere spot for hockey?

What has happened here????? :o :shock:

AdobeArtist

Iknowright? Of course, He's like 6 months late to the party...:P

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#123 santoron
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Arkham Asylum was much better.RR360DD

It kind of felt that way to me as well at first. Yet when I play AC, every aspect is as well made as AA, or better. I think AA was more of a revelation, and AC an evolution.

Sigh, I need to get the AC expansion now...

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#124 TopTierHustler
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Maybe. Skyrim and Portal 2 were pretty good too.

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#125 Loegi
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It looks very similar to Arkham Asylum though.
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#126 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

FrozenLiquid
Um, but the best element of the game is not the story. It's the gameplay.

Most specifically the combat.

I found the combat to be pretty simplistic. You can get throw most fights by hitting a single button. The animations do rest, making it look like you accomplished something spectacular.

The game as whole is fine, but the combat is pretty lame imo.

Mr_Ditters
If that's how you fight, then it sounds to me like you're the simplistic element here. Keep in mind, too, that a 100 strike combo wouldn't net you a quarter of the score/X P a more varied 20x combo would.
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#127 Grawse
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Yeah it was amazing. I'm tired of dealing with this lazy ass port though. Probably going to pick up the GOTY for 360 sometime this week.
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#128 Mario1331
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i love arkham city

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#129 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

I'm buying that along with Asylum soon.

Maybe tomorrow..No.Monday.

Yes. Monday.

Master_ShakeXXX

I never played Asylum either. I will probably check it out sometime, though I fear it wont be as great after having already played the masterpiece AC.

Asylum is awesome. Great game.
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#130 N30F3N1X
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It kind of felt that way to me as well at first. Yet when I play AC, every aspect is as well made as AA, or better. I think AA was more of a revelation, and AC an evolution.

Sigh, I need to get the AC expansion now...

santoron

AC's more open nature made the story move at a clunky pace.

The story itself crushes AA's though. Ra's al Ghul kicks ass. And the ending is worthy of an oscar.

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#131 spike6958
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I didn't really get into AC as much as I did AA, it was OK but it just felt forced, so many of the Villian's where added just for the sake of it, but added nothing to the overall plot, oh and killing Joker, the character that made Asylum amazing, and City bearable...yeah, I hate the game for that.
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#132 Zeviander
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Too bad it was weighed down by way too much DLC.
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#133 heretrix
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

As much as I love the franchise the PC version is kind of a mess.

MasterShake, you can't like this game, it was actually good.

AdobeArtist

Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.

wha... how do you get double DRM? :?

Steam & GFWL=double DRM. Although as I said earlier you can bypass GFWL quite easily.

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#134 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"] Um, but the best element of the game is not the story. It's the gameplay.El_Zo1212o
Most specifically the combat.

I found the combat to be pretty simplistic. You can get throw most fights by hitting a single button. The animations do rest, making it look like you accomplished something spectacular.

The game as whole is fine, but the combat is pretty lame imo.

Mr_Ditters

If that's how you fight, then it sounds to me like you're the simplistic element here. Keep in mind, too, that a 100 strike combo wouldn't net you a quarter of the score/X P a more varied 20x combo would.

Except that no matter how you put it the gameplay is still too simplistic. Mash X, about to get hit? Press A and jump over then continue to mash x.

Nothing about it's gameplay is spectacular and I have no idea what on Earth possess people think this combat is somehow *deep*

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#135 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

arkephonic

Protip: If your game is on page 1 of Gamerankings.com's All-Time list, you've done nothing horribly wrong.

OH wow. More list. Just what your already poor arguments needed.
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#136 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] Yeah I didn't expect the PC version to be so f*cked up. At least the Steam version with its double-DRM. Also, for some reason it's not performing as smoothly as I would like. I can get Crysis Warhead running at like 50-60fps on Enthusiast settings, but I get random stutters with Arkham City. I wonder if it's coz of the textures.heretrix

wha... how do you get double DRM? :?

Steam & GFWL=double DRM. Although as I said earlier you can bypass GFWL quite easily.

The game doesn't use Steamworks. You can still launch and play the game without. I know I did.

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#138 madsnakehhh
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Probably going to get it in the next few months (i want to say weeks, but i don't have the money), i liked Batman: AA but i didn't think it was THAT good, it was an amazing game but far from the master piece i thought it was going to be and sadly Batman AC seems to have some of the same issues (Boss battles) still it looks fun, like i said, i'm going to get it as soon as i can.

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#139 djshowstopper87
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I love how people are bashing Arkham City's gameplay. Sure, the fighting system is simple to use, but its hard to master there is no need to add a whole bunch of different button promots to do certian movs (then people would cry about the controls being to hard). And Arkham City story is fantastic (expecially if your a Batman fan). I would rather play Arkham city over another rehased Call of Duty with the same controls and graphics.

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#140 FIipMode
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Arkham series are classic, easily one of the best this gen.
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#141 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

meh. Arkham is pretty weak. The gameplay is unchaged from the original and seems to do nothing but carry the story similar to Uncharted.

Protip: If the best element about the game is the story, you've done something horribly wrong.

Mr_Ditters

Um, but the best element of the game is not the story. It's the gameplay.

I found the combat to be pretty simplistic. You can get through most fights by hitting a single button. The animations do rest, making it look like you accomplished something spectacular.

The game as whole is fine, but the combat is pretty lame imo.

So not only were you playing on normal, you're only commenting about the combat. There's also exploration, the predator stuff, and the riddler challenges.
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#142 FrozenLiquid
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Except that no matter how you put it the gameplay is still too simplistic. Mash X, about to get hit? Press A and jump over then continue to mash x.

Nothing about it's gameplay is spectacular and I have no idea what on Earth possess people think this combat is somehow *deep*

dj_pulserfan
Moonwalking is also simplistic. Right foot down; slide; bring it up; left foot down; slide; back up. But you don't run at the mouth unless you're pulling it off like Michael Jackson. Getting an ultra high score with the combat is what the game is about. You're missing the forest for the trees.
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#143 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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i'm getting it on wiiU...hope its worth the wait.

KBFloYd

Wii-U is playing AC3 at 60fps, so maybe Arkham Asylum will run 60fps on it.

Will be worth it if that's true

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#144 Inotian
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[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

Except that no matter how you put it the gameplay is still too simplistic. Mash X, about to get hit? Press A and jump over then continue to mash x.

Nothing about it's gameplay is spectacular and I have no idea what on Earth possess people think this combat is somehow *deep*

FrozenLiquid

Moonwalking is also simplistic. Right foot down; slide; bring it up; left foot down; slide; back up. But you don't run at the mouth unless you're pulling it off like Michael Jackson.

Best.Quote.Ever.

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#145 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Moonwalking is also simplistic. Right foot down; slide; bring it up; left foot down; slide; back up. But you don't run at the mouth unless you're pulling it off like Michael Jackson. Getting an ultra high score with the combat is what the game is about. You're missing the forest for the trees.

Can I carry your books for you? For, like, the rest of my life? Seriously, I was going to requote my count of all the varied moves, but now even that isn't necessary, as you've smashed every possible argument about the combat controls singlehandedly.
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#146 Master_ShakeXXX
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39 people agree that Batman AC is the best game of 2011! :o

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#147 GOGOGOGURT
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Yeah, mashing X to kick a** is amazing.

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#148 santoron
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I didn't really get into AC as much as I did AA, it was OK but it just felt forced, so many of the Villian's where added just for the sake of it, but added nothing to the overall plot, oh and killing Joker, the character that made Asylum amazing, and City bearable...yeah, I hate the game for that.spike6958

No choice in the matter. Mark Hamill only came back to give "his" Joker a proper ending.

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#149 santoron
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Too bad it was weighed down by way too much DLC.Zeviander

??? Don't buy it then? Unless you count the catwoman preorder content everyone got when they bought new, Harley's Revenge is the only DLC I'll be getting, and the game has given me way more gameplay than most titles for the price. Wasn't the rest just reskins and challenge maps?

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#150 Yangire
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I'm with a few other posters here, I'll never understand how someone can enjoy the games combat.