Battle of the Sky Games: Skyward Sword vs. Skyrim, which will be better?

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

[QUOTE="blahzor"]

Zelda sure doesn't seem to command alot of respect around here. But maybe it never did?

Can't wait until the end of this year when Skyward Swords owns the lot of ya :D

(i have faith!)

charizard1605

Zelda just won greatest game franchise on SW, so I'm sure people here like it.

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol well please help me understand! :P

The way I see it, is that you are mad that Zelda has not undergone some radical change, but neither has many series, including TES with Skyrim.

locopatho

I want the core Zelda design to stay the same, but to get bigger better and more bad ass! (to quote Cliffy B :P)

I want Hyrule to be massive, tons of NPCs and sidequests and exploration (like Oblivion) not small and sterile and N64ish like TP.

I want cities and villages to be big. Assassin's Creed has spoiled me here, but at least bigger then a couple of enterable buildings on a couple of screens...

I want tons of enemies wandering about, like Dead Rising or what have you. How about SEEING Ganon's giant armies instead of just hearing about them!?

I want more items, weapons, magic, horses and whatnot. More hidden treasure and secrets and just funny wacky stuff: Oblivion, you can find a dead goblin under a bridge with loads of wine bottles and a suicide note! Or make poison out of plants, coat arrows in it and hunt deer, then sell the meat. Or find a spell taht allows you to walk on water and run about on lakes. Just random fun variety and interactivity.

Not really for Wii, but ideally HD graphics, orchestra surround sound, top quality voice acting would be good.

Dungeons are fine, core design is fine, story is fine, just scale everything the **** up and stop reminding me of Ocarina in the worst possible way!

Thats my Zelda rant, I hope you enjoyed it, though you probably disagree as does everyone else ever :P

And we haven't even seen what the over world (or general setting) for that matter is going to be. Why are you saying it's going to be serile and n64 ish?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol well please help me understand! :P

The way I see it, is that you are mad that Zelda has not undergone some radical change, but neither has many series, including TES with Skyrim.

locopatho

I want the core Zelda design to stay the same, but to get bigger better and more bad ass! (to quote Cliffy B :P)

I want Hyrule to be massive, tons of NPCs and sidequests and exploration (like Oblivion) not small and sterile and N64ish like TP.

I want cities and villages to be big. Assassin's Creed has spoiled me here, but at least bigger then a couple of enterable buildings on a couple of screens...

I want tons of enemies wandering about, like Dead Rising or what have you. How about SEEING Ganon's giant armies instead of just hearing about them!?

I want more items, weapons, magic, horses and whatnot. More hidden treasure and secrets and just funny wacky stuff: Oblivion, you can find a dead goblin under a bridge with loads of wine bottles and a suicide note! Or make poison out of plants, coat arrows in it and hunt deer, then sell the meat. Or find a spell taht allows you to walk on water and run about on lakes. Just random fun variety and interactivity.

Not really for Wii, but ideally HD graphics, orchestra surround sound, top quality voice acting would be good.

Dungeons are fine, core design is fine, story is fine, just scale everything the **** up and stop reminding me of Ocarina in the worst possible way!

Thats my Zelda rant, I hope you enjoyed it, though you probably disagree as does everyone else ever :P

aaaaah your one of those people :P. At times I say, this would be cool, and it could be. BUT the thing I love about zelda is its style and very unique charm it possesses, which massive games lack. Each part of the world feels very unique, and each character has style to them. I feel like making the game massive would diminish this charm, although I could see it being scaled up a bit and still great, but I do not think it needs to be like TES in any way.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

Zelda just won greatest game franchise on SW, so I'm sure people here like it.

NaveedLife

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol well please help me understand! :P

The way I see it, is that you are mad that Zelda has not undergone some radical change, but neither has many series, including TES with Skyrim.

Shinobishyguy

I want the core Zelda design to stay the same, but to get bigger better and more bad ass! (to quote Cliffy B :P)

I want Hyrule to be massive, tons of NPCs and sidequests and exploration (like Oblivion) not small and sterile and N64ish like TP.

I want cities and villages to be big. Assassin's Creed has spoiled me here, but at least bigger then a couple of enterable buildings on a couple of screens...

I want tons of enemies wandering about, like Dead Rising or what have you. How about SEEING Ganon's giant armies instead of just hearing about them!?

I want more items, weapons, magic, horses and whatnot. More hidden treasure and secrets and just funny wacky stuff: Oblivion, you can find a dead goblin under a bridge with loads of wine bottles and a suicide note! Or make poison out of plants, coat arrows in it and hunt deer, then sell the meat. Or find a spell taht allows you to walk on water and run about on lakes. Just random fun variety and interactivity.

Not really for Wii, but ideally HD graphics, orchestra surround sound, top quality voice acting would be good.

Dungeons are fine, core design is fine, story is fine, just scale everything the **** up and stop reminding me of Ocarina in the worst possible way!

Thats my Zelda rant, I hope you enjoyed it, though you probably disagree as does everyone else ever :P

And we haven't even seen what the over world (or general setting) for that matter is going to be. Why are you saying it's going to be serile and n64 ish?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's really funny, for a franchise that just won the Greatest Franchise Ever contest, so many people seem to hate on it :Ptheuncharted34

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

I don't know, but I'll be getting Skyward Sword and not Skyrim. BTW everyone, they will be 2 completley different games.

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

theuncharted34

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

SaltyMeatballs

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

I really do need to play it. It's just that I don't have my gamecube anymore, and I don't have a wii :(

It would be awesome if nintendo would re-release it for their next system in HD. even if they don't though, I'll still get around to playing it one day.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

turtlethetaffer

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's really funny, for a franchise that just won the Greatest Franchise Ever contest, so many people seem to hate on it :Ptheuncharted34

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

Wind Waker is a special game lol. It is not perfect, but something about it is so awesome. Windfall Island is such a cheery place :P lol. I try to be very picking about the games I give 10's to, and I also try to remain unbiased. If a game loses me at any moment and I don't feel like playing any further its not a 10. If it has some noticeable issue, its not a 10. And so on lol. I feel Majoras Mask is very close to a 10 and my reasons for not giving it a 10 are hard for me to pinpoint, which makes it even harder for me not to give it a 10, but I think I still give it a 9.5 :P. WW on the other hand did so much right, but I feel the Ocean could and should have had more interesting islands to explore and such. Twilight Princess has the most issues for me, yet it does some aspects very well. I am going to play it again soon, and I think I will enjoy it even more this time :P.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

Shinobishyguy

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

Yeah I learned my lesson; I'm not hyping it all that much (plus we have little to no info on it) so I hope it will be better than expected.

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

theuncharted34

You're asking me to choose the impossible Charizard. :P

Really I can't choose! :cry:

So I won't. :P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

turtlethetaffer

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

always nice to see someone who appreciates TP :)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

NaveedLife

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

Wind Waker is a special game lol. It is not perfect, but something about it is so awesome. Windfall Island is such a cheery place :P lol. I try to be very picking about the games I give 10's to, and I also try to remain unbiased. If a game loses me at any moment and I don't feel like playing any further its not a 10. If it has some noticeable issue, its not a 10. And so on lol. I feel Majoras Mask is very close to a 10 and my reasons for not giving it a 10 are hard for me to pinpoint, which makes it even harder for me not to give it a 10, but I think I still give it a 9.5 :P. WW on the other hand did so much right, but I feel the Ocean could and should have had more interesting islands to explore and such. Twilight Princess has the most issues for me, yet it does some aspects very well. I am going to play it again soon, and I think I will enjoy it even more this time :P.

WW is undoubtedly one of the best zeldas; huge overworld lots of charm and sidequests. It was the last Zelda game to have that mysterious quality (probably because of how young I was when I played it then TP came out alot later). But in general Zelda games have great overworlds with MM having the best.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

theuncharted34

I really do need to play it. It's just that I don't have my gamecube anymore, and I don't have a wii :(

It would be awesome if nintendo would re-release it for their next system in HD. even if they don't though, I'll still get around to playing it one day.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol my thoughts exactly! I don't get the hate honestly. I will admit I was dissapointed with Twilight Princess, but thats partly because I hyped it to be the best game yet (better than OoT), and it wasn't. It is a 9.0 to me, as to where WW and MM are a 9.5 and OoT is a 10.

NaveedLife

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

Wind Waker is a special game lol. It is not perfect, but something about it is so awesome. Windfall Island is such a cheery place :P lol. I try to be very picking about the games I give 10's to, and I also try to remain unbiased. If a game loses me at any moment and I don't feel like playing any further its not a 10. If it has some noticeable issue, its not a 10. And so on lol. I feel Majoras Mask is very close to a 10 and my reasons for not giving it a 10 are hard for me to pinpoint, which makes it even harder for me not to give it a 10, but I think I still give it a 9.5 :P. WW on the other hand did so much right, but I feel the Ocean could and should have had more interesting islands to explore and such. Twilight Princess has the most issues for me, yet it does some aspects very well. I am going to play it again soon, and I think I will enjoy it even more this time :P.

believe me, I'm not looking at them from a biased standpoint. if I was biased on things, I'd have given NIER a *really* high score despite its obvious flaws.

which btw have you gotten NIER yet? :P

aaaaah your one of those people :P. At times I say, this would be cool, and it could be. BUT the thing I love about zelda is its style and very unique charm it possesses, which massive games lack. Each part of the world feels very unique, and each character has style to them. I feel like making the game massive would diminish this charm, although I could see it being scaled up a bit and still great, but I do not think it needs to be like TES in any way.

NaveedLife

It doesn't need to be AS big, but I just can't get excited to "explore" such a tiny world any more, not after Bethesda games and other open world games.

Just thinking, what can I do in Hyrule field? Gallop about, kill an enemy or two, hack grass for rupees, same thing for god knows how many games. In other games we have picking plants to make poison, (Oblivion), getting waylaid by highwaymen(Red Dead), meeting a wandering trader (Fallout 3), just more ALIVE! People eating their food and tending their crops, animals wandering about, NPC battles, and all that.

For me, the old school "5 NPCs standing around 3 shacks where nothing ever happens or changes" is just too outdated!

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

theuncharted34

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

always nice to see someone who appreciates TP :)

Yeah. Is it as amazing as OoT or the second coming of Christ? No, it isn't. It is still a very fun game with an enjoyable story, fun overworld (even though there was a severe lack of sidequests compared to WW and MM) and a long campaign. (It took me like 25 hours... on my second playthrough. Like 50 on my first.) Great game but not the best of the best.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I gave all of them 10's except wind waker. (because I haven't played it :cry: )

twilight princess has the grandest scale and and the most epic feel to it, as well as having the best level design.

Majora's mask had the best atmosphere by far, and also had the most and best sidequests.

OOT had the best soundtrack and was the biggest milestone for the series.

EDIT: even if I haven't played wind waker though, It easily has the best visuals.

theuncharted34

Wind Waker is a special game lol. It is not perfect, but something about it is so awesome. Windfall Island is such a cheery place :P lol. I try to be very picking about the games I give 10's to, and I also try to remain unbiased. If a game loses me at any moment and I don't feel like playing any further its not a 10. If it has some noticeable issue, its not a 10. And so on lol. I feel Majoras Mask is very close to a 10 and my reasons for not giving it a 10 are hard for me to pinpoint, which makes it even harder for me not to give it a 10, but I think I still give it a 9.5 :P. WW on the other hand did so much right, but I feel the Ocean could and should have had more interesting islands to explore and such. Twilight Princess has the most issues for me, yet it does some aspects very well. I am going to play it again soon, and I think I will enjoy it even more this time :P.

believe me, I'm not looking at them from a biased standpoint. if I was biased on things, I'd have given NIER a *really* high score despite its obvious flaws.

which btw have you gotten NIER yet? :P

I am not saying that you are biased, just saying I am not :P. No I have not lol, I keep looking on Amazon for a good deal and hoping I can get it for 10 or just above haha. I don't think Best Buy will carry it, but if they do, I might pick it up with my gift card there. It better impress me...or else! :P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

SaltyMeatballs

technically, yeah the motion controls were tacked on :P but they also really did work out great. the IR pointing allowed for much better use of aiming with things like the bow, and swinging the wii-mote wasn't tediously tiring. it was waggle, but it worked great.

playing as the wolf certainly wasn't as fun as being link, but it served as breaks in the action/rest of the game. plus, it was really neat exploring the twilight area's with the wolf, which wouldn't have felt right if you did that with link.

EDIT: and not a big thing, but being able to run and swing the sword was cool, and made cutting grass a lot less tedious :P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

That's what happened to me. Upon first playing it, I was dissappointed because of hype. However after replaying it I think it is a great game.

turtlethetaffer

always nice to see someone who appreciates TP :)

Yeah. Is it as amazing as OoT or the second coming of Christ? No, it isn't. It is still a very fun game with an enjoyable story, fun overworld (even though there was a severe lack of sidequests compared to WW and MM) and a long campaign. (It took me like 25 hours... on my second playthrough. Like 50 on my first.) Great game but not the best of the best.

Exactly, you just summed it up, which to me is a 9.0. I will think about reevaluating the score when I play through it again, although I am sure it will sit there quite comfortably :P.

I think SS will take people, including me, by surprise, but who knows? I hope it does, and have faith that it will. Skyrim also looks awesome, but Oblivion wasn't that great IMO, so I am a bit cautious.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I'm a bit saddened by TP's rep. if people didn't hype it to be the second coming of christ, they wouldn't have been dissapointed, and instead, found an amazing game.

theuncharted34

technically, yeah the motion controls were tacked on :P but they also really did work out great. the IR pointing allowed for much better use of aiming with things like the bow, and swinging the wii-mote wasn't tediously tiring. it was waggle, but it worked great.

playing as the wolf certainly wasn't as fun as being link, but it served as breaks in the action/rest of the game. plus, it was really neat exploring the twilight area's with the wolf, which wouldn't have felt right if you did that with link.

lol I have to add something here. The very fact that Kakariko village in TP is boring and lame makes me rate it down :x lol. It's not awful, but it was my favorite place in Ocarina of Time and then I see this abomination in TP and it made me quite sad lol. It should have been more like A Link To The Past's, but in 3D.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Wind Waker is a special game lol. It is not perfect, but something about it is so awesome. Windfall Island is such a cheery place :P lol. I try to be very picking about the games I give 10's to, and I also try to remain unbiased. If a game loses me at any moment and I don't feel like playing any further its not a 10. If it has some noticeable issue, its not a 10. And so on lol. I feel Majoras Mask is very close to a 10 and my reasons for not giving it a 10 are hard for me to pinpoint, which makes it even harder for me not to give it a 10, but I think I still give it a 9.5 :P. WW on the other hand did so much right, but I feel the Ocean could and should have had more interesting islands to explore and such. Twilight Princess has the most issues for me, yet it does some aspects very well. I am going to play it again soon, and I think I will enjoy it even more this time :P.

NaveedLife

believe me, I'm not looking at them from a biased standpoint. if I was biased on things, I'd have given NIER a *really* high score despite its obvious flaws.

which btw have you gotten NIER yet? :P

I am not saying that you are biased, just saying I am not :P. No I have not lol, I keep looking on Amazon for a good deal and hoping I can get it for 10 or just above haha. I don't think Best Buy will carry it, but if they do, I might pick it up with my gift card there. It better impress me...or else! :P

I don't blame you for trying to get the best deals :P

Won't have to worry about that, you'll love it 8)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] TP is amazing, but it has tacked on motion controls (ok they weren't bad but not great either), and graphics which should have been better on the Wii, playing as a Wolf wasn't fun.NaveedLife

technically, yeah the motion controls were tacked on :P but they also really did work out great. the IR pointing allowed for much better use of aiming with things like the bow, and swinging the wii-mote wasn't tediously tiring. it was waggle, but it worked great.

playing as the wolf certainly wasn't as fun as being link, but it served as breaks in the action/rest of the game. plus, it was really neat exploring the twilight area's with the wolf, which wouldn't have felt right if you did that with link.

lol I have to add something here. The very fact that Kakariko village in TP is boring and lame makes me rate it down :x lol. It's not awful, but it was my favorite place in Ocarina of Time and then I see this abomination in TP and it made me quite sad lol. It should have been more like A Link To The Past's, but in 3D.

what? that was a cool location :P Loved the style of it and it had high vantage points.

not as good as OOT's kakariko, I agree.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] TP is amazing, but it has tacked on motion controls (ok they weren't bad but not great either), and graphics which should have been better on the Wii, playing as a Wolf wasn't fun.NaveedLife

technically, yeah the motion controls were tacked on :P but they also really did work out great. the IR pointing allowed for much better use of aiming with things like the bow, and swinging the wii-mote wasn't tediously tiring. it was waggle, but it worked great.

playing as the wolf certainly wasn't as fun as being link, but it served as breaks in the action/rest of the game. plus, it was really neat exploring the twilight area's with the wolf, which wouldn't have felt right if you did that with link.

lol I have to add something here. The very fact that Kakariko village in TP is boring and lame makes me rate it down :x lol. It's not awful, but it was my favorite place in Ocarina of Time and then I see this abomination in TP and it made me quite sad lol. It should have been more like A Link To The Past's, but in 3D.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

aaaaah your one of those people :P. At times I say, this would be cool, and it could be. BUT the thing I love about zelda is its style and very unique charm it possesses, which massive games lack. Each part of the world feels very unique, and each character has style to them. I feel like making the game massive would diminish this charm, although I could see it being scaled up a bit and still great, but I do not think it needs to be like TES in any way.

locopatho

It doesn't need to be AS big, but I just can't get excited to "explore" such a tiny world any more, not after Bethesda games and other open world games.

Just thinking, what can I do in Hyrule field? Gallop about, kill an enemy or two, hack grass for rupees, same thing for god knows how many games. In other games we have picking plants to make poison, (Oblivion), getting waylaid by highwaymen(Red Dead), meeting a wandering trader (Fallout 3), just more ALIVE! People eating their food and tending their crops, animals wandering about, NPC battles, and all that.

For me, the old school "5 NPCs standing around 3 shacks where nothing ever happens or changes" is just too outdated!

Besides, we know nothing of the overworld in Skyward sword.

Hell for all we know the entire game could be an inter connected dungeon like metroid prime.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

technically, yeah the motion controls were tacked on :P but they also really did work out great. the IR pointing allowed for much better use of aiming with things like the bow, and swinging the wii-mote wasn't tediously tiring. it was waggle, but it worked great.

playing as the wolf certainly wasn't as fun as being link, but it served as breaks in the action/rest of the game. plus, it was really neat exploring the twilight area's with the wolf, which wouldn't have felt right if you did that with link.

theuncharted34

lol I have to add something here. The very fact that Kakariko village in TP is boring and lame makes me rate it down :x lol. It's not awful, but it was my favorite place in Ocarina of Time and then I see this abomination in TP and it made me quite sad lol. It should have been more like A Link To The Past's, but in 3D.

what? that was a cool location :P Loved the style of it and it had high vantage points.

not as good as OOT's kakariko, I agree.

lol maybe I am being harsh, I can't wait to replay TP and see if I am :P. I guess the game just never feels happy, which I usually don't like in games. To me, you need to have the contrast to make the sad moments feel really dark. OoT, WW, and even MM did this very well. Man I should just start playing TP right now :P.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

aaaaah your one of those people :P. At times I say, this would be cool, and it could be. BUT the thing I love about zelda is its style and very unique charm it possesses, which massive games lack. Each part of the world feels very unique, and each character has style to them. I feel like making the game massive would diminish this charm, although I could see it being scaled up a bit and still great, but I do not think it needs to be like TES in any way.

Shinobishyguy

It doesn't need to be AS big, but I just can't get excited to "explore" such a tiny world any more, not after Bethesda games and other open world games.

Just thinking, what can I do in Hyrule field? Gallop about, kill an enemy or two, hack grass for rupees, same thing for god knows how many games. In other games we have picking plants to make poison, (Oblivion), getting waylaid by highwaymen(Red Dead), meeting a wandering trader (Fallout 3), just more ALIVE! People eating their food and tending their crops, animals wandering about, NPC battles, and all that.

For me, the old school "5 NPCs standing around 3 shacks where nothing ever happens or changes" is just too outdated!

Besides, we know nothing of the overworld in Skyward sword.

Hell for all we know the entire game could be an inter connected dungeon like metroid prime.

oh god. I don't think that would work out well at all.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

aaaaah your one of those people :P. At times I say, this would be cool, and it could be. BUT the thing I love about zelda is its style and very unique charm it possesses, which massive games lack. Each part of the world feels very unique, and each character has style to them. I feel like making the game massive would diminish this charm, although I could see it being scaled up a bit and still great, but I do not think it needs to be like TES in any way.

Shinobishyguy

It doesn't need to be AS big, but I just can't get excited to "explore" such a tiny world any more, not after Bethesda games and other open world games.

Just thinking, what can I do in Hyrule field? Gallop about, kill an enemy or two, hack grass for rupees, same thing for god knows how many games. In other games we have picking plants to make poison, (Oblivion), getting waylaid by highwaymen(Red Dead), meeting a wandering trader (Fallout 3), just more ALIVE! People eating their food and tending their crops, animals wandering about, NPC battles, and all that.

For me, the old school "5 NPCs standing around 3 shacks where nothing ever happens or changes" is just too outdated!

As much as I like Zelda, (Thought Twilight Princess was Awesome) I think Skyrim is going to be better.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

It doesn't need to be AS big, but I just can't get excited to "explore" such a tiny world any more, not after Bethesda games and other open world games.

Just thinking, what can I do in Hyrule field? Gallop about, kill an enemy or two, hack grass for rupees, same thing for god knows how many games. In other games we have picking plants to make poison, (Oblivion), getting waylaid by highwaymen(Red Dead), meeting a wandering trader (Fallout 3), just more ALIVE! People eating their food and tending their crops, animals wandering about, NPC battles, and all that.

For me, the old school "5 NPCs standing around 3 shacks where nothing ever happens or changes" is just too outdated!

theuncharted34

Besides, we know nothing of the overworld in Skyward sword.

Hell for all we know the entire game could be an inter connected dungeon like metroid prime.

oh god. I don't think that would work out well at all.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]My opinion is biased seeing as i havent played a zelda game nor do i plan to, but yeah my vote goes for Skyrim. NaveedLife

Why would you not give them a chance? That is just a strange attitude to have. I gave Halo a chance, turns out its pretty fun and is one of few games I miss my 360 for. I gave the MGS series a chance (just played them over a year ago for the first itme) and its one of my favorite series out there. I suggest you do the same for what is my favorite seires of all time.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol I have to add something here. The very fact that Kakariko village in TP is boring and lame makes me rate it down :x lol. It's not awful, but it was my favorite place in Ocarina of Time and then I see this abomination in TP and it made me quite sad lol. It should have been more like A Link To The Past's, but in 3D.

NaveedLife

what? that was a cool location :P Loved the style of it and it had high vantage points.

not as good as OOT's kakariko, I agree.

lol maybe I am being harsh, I can't wait to replay TP and see if I am :P. I guess the game just never feels happy, which I usually don't like in games. To me, you need to have the contrast to make the sad moments feel really dark. OoT, WW, and even MM did this very well. Man I should just start playing TP right now :P.

yeah, I can see how someone would dislike the constant dark theme of the game.

when did you play it last?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

what? that was a cool location :P Loved the style of it and it had high vantage points.

not as good as OOT's kakariko, I agree.

theuncharted34

lol maybe I am being harsh, I can't wait to replay TP and see if I am :P. I guess the game just never feels happy, which I usually don't like in games. To me, you need to have the contrast to make the sad moments feel really dark. OoT, WW, and even MM did this very well. Man I should just start playing TP right now :P.

yeah, I can see how someone would dislike the constant dark theme of the game.

when did you play it last?

About 4.5 years ago right after it launched :P. I had it for the Wii at the game's launch, but I didn't have a Wii until a month or two after launch when I got it off ebay.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] Is Zelda an open world rpg though? Again, I think your comparing apples to oranges.

Besides, we know nothing of the overworld in Skyward sword.

Hell for all we know the entire game could be an inter connected dungeon like metroid prime.

Shinobishyguy

oh god. I don't think that would work out well at all.

as long as they do it right, which, they will since it's nintendo :P

I'd still be very cautious about it though.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

lol maybe I am being harsh, I can't wait to replay TP and see if I am :P. I guess the game just never feels happy, which I usually don't like in games. To me, you need to have the contrast to make the sad moments feel really dark. OoT, WW, and even MM did this very well. Man I should just start playing TP right now :P.

NaveedLife

yeah, I can see how someone would dislike the constant dark theme of the game.

when did you play it last?

About 4.5 years ago right after it launched :P. I had it for the Wii at the game's launch, but I didn't have a Wii until a month or two after launch when I got it off ebay.

yeah, you really need to replay it man :P

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

oh god. I don't think that would work out well at all.

theuncharted34

as long as they do it right, which, they will since it's nintendo :P

I'd still be very cautious about it though.

Yeah, all I know is that town's need to be in Zelda at all times :P. some of my fondest memories are in Kakariko Village, Windfall Island, and Clocktown.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Hey, it would certainly spice things up. Thats what people have been asking for :PNaveedLife

as long as they do it right, which, they will since it's nintendo :P

I'd still be very cautious about it though.

Yeah, all I know is that town's need to be in Zelda at all times :P. some of my fondest memories are in Kakariko Village, Windfall Island, and Clocktown.

got that right. a zelda without villages/towns wouldn't be zelda to me.

Skyward sword will be good, but Skyrim could be another oblivion... we'll see.

I can't pick :cry:

I hate you charizard, why you making me pick!

I think Skyrim will be better.