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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Dude, i need to buy a new computer, like right now! My Asus G73JH will not be able to handle that sexiness in all its glory :oIPWNDU2

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Why does it have to be highly competitive gameplay? Why do you think it's not balanced? It's balance is fine. All players start out with the potential to do what the next player can do. What's wrong with being constantly being rewarded? It's about earning and rewarding in a way such that you have a good time... like any video game is supposed to do. There's nothing wrong with killstreaks or nukes because the players have to earn them, and it's hugely satisfying when you get them yourself. If you want to speak imbalance, check out L4D2, the most unfair game I've ever experienced.. yet still it has a competitive scene. But yet again it is protected by the general popular hardcore gamer ideology.Wasdie

First off having an unlock system already ruins balance, some people get more stuff because they've played more. That's just not fair. The "potential" is not the same.

Games like Quake, UT2k4, and CS are truly balanced FPSs Nobody comes into the game with anything extra, nobody is given the ability to get free kills just because they have prooven to do good for a time. I'm not saying CoD isn't fun, I'm just saying it isn't balanced at all. It creates more frustrations than anything.

How is L4D2 unfair? It has been constantly balanced since it's launch. The hardcore gamer ideology is that if you suck at the game, you lose. That's not "unfair", that's how the game should be played.

There is literally a laundry list of things wrong with versus in this game. The updates are a joke, 90% of the time it just causes some other problem. Basically the game is inherently imbalanced because spawns the first players to go on the map already know where are the items are and where the spawns will be. The infected are hugely underpowered against a competent survivor team, even if the teams are even in skill. The game got a critical update that was needed from day one in versus like a year and half after it was noted (the tank going on fire before players can control it). Infected have very limited navigation (lack of ladders, invisible walls galore). It's still fun when you get into a game where teams are generally even and no one rage quits, but there are too many inconsistencies for the game to be considered balanced. There's nothing wrong with an unlock system, you already get decent enough guns from the start with stuff on them that you haven't unlocked yet, they just aren't customizable. And anyone who's playing in competition would have already unlocked everything. Games with powerups I wouldn't consider particularly balanced considering spawning can dictate who gets a powerful item first, but yes games like CS are balanced.. but again, why does COD need to be?
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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Dude, i need to buy a new computer, like right now! My Asus G73JH will not be able to handle that sexiness in all its glory :oAlpha-Male22

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

High settings $600 - that doesn't include a monitor or Win7 though.

You can work some magic though, and be high settings ready for BF3 with $800 MAX.

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#104 TheShadowLord07
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im not big all mp but I have to say,that was pretty impressive

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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Dude, i need to buy a new computer, like right now! My Asus G73JH will not be able to handle that sexiness in all its glory :oAlpha-Male22

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

More or less. You won't be getting a new monitor for that though.

Remember the initial entry into PC gaming is far more expensive than console gaming. However if you're smart you can draw out the hardware and get far more use out of it over the life of the PC.

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#106 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Dude, i need to buy a new computer, like right now! My Asus G73JH will not be able to handle that sexiness in all its glory :oAlpha-Male22

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

If you have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers it should be possible. Look into Phenom II X4 CPUs (they are like $100) which is an amazing for price/performance.
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#107 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

After seeing the CoD horde mode, I don't think they have anythin gunder their sleeves for the multiplayer. Any major changes to it would do more damage than good. If you're expecting them to innovate, you're playing the wrong game. CoD is a cash cow. Minimal R&D, maximum profits. Simple as that. It's up to other games like BF3 and Red Ochestra 2 to do the innovation as the cash cow continues to be milked.

KungfuKitten

Not really. I understand the games aren't really true sequels, because they still have the same core gameplay, but there is enough new content to warrant it existing. I don't see people complaining how much L4D2 was a rehash of the first game (if we forget the boycott), because they are Valve, and thus protected by the general popular hardcore gamer ideology. The production value and polish that goes into COD games is really outstanding (way higher quality than Valve). This trailer wasn't that impressive to me, it looks like BC2 with jets. Graphics looks the same as BC2 and it's a freaking war game... it's not that innovative... this stuff was in Desert Combat a looong time ago.

The 'polish' and production 'value' of COD... Are you kidding?
If we forget the boycot? Wait what is this...

1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.
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#108 Enforcedspot
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I'm impressed I never played battlefield series before but i can't wait to play this game.
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#109 mitu123
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And my new build will be in here just in time before I run this.:D

Best 2 minute trailer ever.

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#110 padaporra
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I don't think I ever got so impressed with a trailer before.

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#111 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

brandontwb

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

If you have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers it should be possible. Look into Phenom II X4 CPUs (they are like $100) which is an amazing for price/performance.

I have all that, jst need W7 and all the HW upgrades. My XP PC is too slow, has a 40 gig HDD… I used to be able to play Halo CE on highest settings for a comparative… I want to spend as little as possible, do I need to upgrade everything I have?

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Why does it have to be highly competitive gameplay? Why do you think it's not balanced? It's balance is fine. All players start out with the potential to do what the next player can do. What's wrong with being constantly being rewarded? It's about earning and rewarding in a way such that you have a good time... like any video game is supposed to do. There's nothing wrong with killstreaks or nukes because the players have to earn them, and it's hugely satisfying when you get them yourself. If you want to speak imbalance, check out L4D2, the most unfair game I've ever experienced.. yet still it has a competitive scene. But yet again it is protected by the general popular hardcore gamer ideology.Alpha-Male22

First off having an unlock system already ruins balance, some people get more stuff because they've played more. That's just not fair. The "potential" is not the same.

Games like Quake, UT2k4, and CS are truly balanced FPSs Nobody comes into the game with anything extra, nobody is given the ability to get free kills just because they have prooven to do good for a time. I'm not saying CoD isn't fun, I'm just saying it isn't balanced at all. It creates more frustrations than anything.

How is L4D2 unfair? It has been constantly balanced since it's launch. The hardcore gamer ideology is that if you suck at the game, you lose. That's not "unfair", that's how the game should be played.

BF3 is said to have an unlocking system that will take months to get through, thus advantaging players based on length played. COD at least has playlists that get rid of the excessiveness of reward spamming. I have hope that MW3 has learned this lesson of spam and unbalance that MW2 surely had. But overall, BF3 is just a fresher, bigger, and deeper experience and I say this confidently without seeing MW3 as it will just refine what should have already been refined. I officially announce today that I WILL be a hermit come Oct. 27th! Where are the cookies?

I feel like its only unbalanced because a developer misses the point of it.

In Rainbow Six: Vegas, a new player had just as much a chance to win a fight as much as a veteran player with their gear. The unlocks were purely cometic, with guns like the SPAS-12 having no better stats then a base shotgun and stuff like different armor brands and camo.

In games like CoD and BC2 they made it unbalanced by giving better gear and more options as you went up while highly restricting early players. Sure it kept the carrot dangling, but it was highly unfair. A system like in R6V2 is the best in my eyes. For those who remember, Vegas 2 had a seperate unlock system (like the class unlocks in BC2) and a main unlock system, and it took forever to get everything, but it was never unfair. If BF3 can give starting players a generous amount of gear and not give them crap like no med kits or something like BC2 did, then I'm grateful, but whatever they do I'll be happy with it since I plan on getting it day one and spending a generous amount of time on the game.

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#113 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Dude, i need to buy a new computer, like right now! My Asus G73JH will not be able to handle that sexiness in all its glory :oAlpha-Male22

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

You should check out the PC hardware forums. They helped me with a lot of my stuff a few months back, so any questions you have can be answered there.

Also I'd check out newegg.com, they got good prices and let you build up a wishlist so you know what you want before you cart it and buy it. CompUSA is also a good place for gear, and a bit cheaper with some stuff.

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#114 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

First off having an unlock system already ruins balance, some people get more stuff because they've played more. That's just not fair. The "potential" is not the same.

Games like Quake, UT2k4, and CS are truly balanced FPSs Nobody comes into the game with anything extra, nobody is given the ability to get free kills just because they have prooven to do good for a time. I'm not saying CoD isn't fun, I'm just saying it isn't balanced at all. It creates more frustrations than anything.

How is L4D2 unfair? It has been constantly balanced since it's launch. The hardcore gamer ideology is that if you suck at the game, you lose. That's not "unfair", that's how the game should be played.

SPYDER0416

BF3 is said to have an unlocking system that will take months to get through, thus advantaging players based on length played. COD at least has playlists that get rid of the excessiveness of reward spamming. I have hope that MW3 has learned this lesson of spam and unbalance that MW2 surely had. But overall, BF3 is just a fresher, bigger, and deeper experience and I say this confidently without seeing MW3 as it will just refine what should have already been refined. I officially announce today that I WILL be a hermit come Oct. 27th! Where are the cookies?

I feel like its only unbalanced because a developer misses the point of it.

In Rainbow Six: Vegas, a new player had just as much a chance to win a fight as much as a veteran player with their gear. The unlocks were purely cometic, with guns like the SPAS-12 having no better stats then a base shotgun and stuff like different armor brands and camo.

In games like CoD and BC2 they made it unbalanced by giving better gear and more options as you went up while highly restricting early players. Sure it kept the carrot dangling, but it was highly unfair. A system like in R6V2 is the best in my eyes. For those who remember, Vegas 2 had a seperate unlock system (like the class unlocks in BC2) and a main unlock system, and it took forever to get everything, but it was never unfair. If BF3 can give starting players a generous amount of gear and not give them crap like no med kits or something like BC2 did, then I'm grateful, but whatever they do I'll be happy with it since I plan on getting it day one and spending a generous amount of time on the game.

I do enjoy unlocking, I do, but balance is the issue. A good game does not need to dangle a carrot to keep player's from leaving. It's a practice I do not like. I think the best solution is to allow players to choose what to unlock when they gain XP and not to tie it to a tree. But as long as it is situational and not "best weapons saved for last" it should be OK. Agree about locking med kits and stuff like that
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#115 MacBoomStick
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I still see lots of little triangles over peoples heads.

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#116 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

I'm in the same boat with me JW :x

SPYDER0416

I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?

You should check out the PC hardware forums. They helped me with a lot of my stuff a few months back, so any questions you have can be answered there.

Also I'd check out newegg.com, they got good prices and let you build up a wishlist so you know what you want before you cart it and buy it. CompUSA is also a good place for gear, and a bit cheaper with some stuff.

I have real life friends who have offered to help. I just want to be able to run games like BF and Skyrim. But even if I dont have games, an upgraded PC In general would be great Why oh why did I buy a macbook? What are the basic components? GFX card, GPU, CPU, HDD, RAM, OS? Is that it?
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#117 John_Read
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Modern Warfare 3 may sell more, but it will never have as epic multiplayer as this.Birdy09
CS sells more and have better MP than both :P
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#118 Alpha-Male22
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I still see lots of little triangles over peoples heads.

MacBoomStick
They need to rid of that. I'd also like this CommoRose and Army leader thing I here about as it sounds awesome.
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#119 edidili
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Because of the stagnation of this gen, it has been a while since I was so impressed from a trailer.

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#120 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Not really. I understand the games aren't really true sequels, because they still have the same core gameplay, but there is enough new content to warrant it existing. I don't see people complaining how much L4D2 was a rehash of the first game (if we forget the boycott), because they are Valve, and thus protected by the general popular hardcore gamer ideology. The production value and polish that goes into COD games is really outstanding (way higher quality than Valve). This trailer wasn't that impressive to me, it looks like BC2 with jets. Graphics looks the same as BC2 and it's a freaking war game... it's not that innovative... this stuff was in Desert Combat a looong time ago.brandontwb

The 'polish' and production 'value' of COD... Are you kidding?
If we forget the boycot? Wait what is this...

1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.

Ok well, you still didn't make clear what kind of polish or production values you're talking about >_> I know they pour a lot of money into advertising and reviews, and maybe some celebrity voice actors. I don't think they actually spend a lot of time or money on polishing the game. I mean last I heard the people working on it don't always get paid, and they're very busy chasing away all their talent.
COD games tend to be riddled with bugs, hacks, shortcomings, at least more so than a Valve game.

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#121 Gibsonsg527
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:shock:.........................

I really have no words to describe how awesome that was...

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#122 Alpha-Male22
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Because of the stagnation of this gen, it has been a while since I was so impressed from a trailer.

edidili
Irony being that you are watching a trailer for an FPS.
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#123 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Not really. I understand the games aren't really true sequels, because they still have the same core gameplay, but there is enough new content to warrant it existing. I don't see people complaining how much L4D2 was a rehash of the first game (if we forget the boycott), because they are Valve, and thus protected by the general popular hardcore gamer ideology. The production value and polish that goes into COD games is really outstanding (way higher quality than Valve). This trailer wasn't that impressive to me, it looks like BC2 with jets. Graphics looks the same as BC2 and it's a freaking war game... it's not that innovative... this stuff was in Desert Combat a looong time ago.brandontwb

The 'polish' and production 'value' of COD... Are you kidding?
If we forget the boycot? Wait what is this...

1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.

COD has more production value than Valve? :lol:

The reason why people complain about COD is easy to see. Why L4D2 got an exception is also clear to see. WaW was the biggest rehash of COD yet it too got a pass because it was only the second COD game this gen. MW2 was substantially different. But MW2 got the hate because of where it failed: balance, networking, and an inability to deliver on the hype. You cannot compare the two nor discount the fact that COD leads this generation yet puts significantly less work into their products.

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#124 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] I hear u can get a capable BF3 playing PC for $600. True or false? How much for med-max settings?Alpha-Male22

If you have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers it should be possible. Look into Phenom II X4 CPUs (they are like $100) which is an amazing for price/performance.

I have all that, jst need W7 and all the HW upgrades. My XP PC is too slow, has a 40 gig HDD… I used to be able to play Halo CE on highest settings for a comparative… I want to spend as little as possible, do I need to upgrade everything I have?

I'm going to go on the assumption you've never really upgraded or built a computer. I say your computer is too outdated to upgrade well (based on the fact that you have XP and a 40 gig HDD). You should just build a new one, you will need: 1: A case to house everything, 2: A motherboard to connect everything to, 3: A power supply , 4: A CPU 5, a graphics card (I would recommend HD 6850 or 6870 from AMD), 5: A new hard drive. You can probably use the CD drive from your current computer. You have to decide if it's worth your time and energy to go searching online to figure out what you need to do.. shouldn't be too hard if you really want it, just be prepared to waste a few days learn what you need to know.
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#126 starjet905
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Modern Warfare 3 may sell more, but it will never have as epic multiplayer as this.John_Read
CS sells more and have better MP than both :P

No matter what the self proclaimed "elites" say, CS can't beat this. No way.
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#127 ajames_123
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What i like about CS is a can jump into a game in seconds and play couple of rounds and log.

I can then boot up BF when i have more time and wanna play for a longer or fancy a different pace.

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#128 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] The 'polish' and production 'value' of COD... Are you kidding?
If we forget the boycot? Wait what is this...

Alpha-Male22

1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.

COD has more production value than Valve? :lol:

The reason why people complain about COD is easy to see. Why L4D2 got an exception is also clear to see. WaW was the biggest rehash of COD yet it too got a pass because it was only the second COD game this gen. MW2 was substantially different. But MW2 got the hate because of where it failed: balance, networking, and an inability to deliver on the hype. You cannot compare the two nor discount the fact that COD leads this generation yet puts significantly less work into their products.

Much more production value than Valve, well at least L4D2 (their most unpolished game). People complain against COD because they are gamer hipsters, or again the 'general popular hardcore gamer ideology' which 99% of people conform to (Valve is best ever, COD is a joke, Battlefield destroys COD etc). Do you know anything about game design? I don't know too much to be honest, but I guarantee anyone who knows the least bit about it would tell you "significantly less work into their products" is laughable. COD is top for a reason.
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#129 organic_machine
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That looked awesome. Although, I don't know WHY SW keeps comparing this to MW3. They're little alike in terms of gameplay. Sometimes I think SW gets a little too much into aggressive hate campaigns.

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#130 TheOtherTheoG
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I'm quite a bit more hyped for the game now than I was. Granted, that still isn't as much as most people, but it did look like, most importantly, really goddamn good fun.
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#131 ZombieKiller7
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That actually looks incredibly good.

If the console version is anything close to that, it will rock sales charts.

MW3 has major competition.

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#132 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] The 'polish' and production 'value' of COD... Are you kidding?
If we forget the boycot? Wait what is this...

KungfuKitten

1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.

Ok well, you still didn't make clear what kind of polish or production values you're talking about >_> I know they pour a lot of money into advertising and reviews, and maybe some celebrity voice actors. I don't think they actually spend a lot of time or money on polishing the game. I mean last I heard the people working on it don't always get paid, and they're very busy chasing away all their talent.
COD games tend to be riddled with bugs, hacks, shortcomings, at least more so than a Valve game.

Wow, seriously, you have this all backwards. How can you say "I don't think they actually spend a lot of time or money on polishing the game." That literally makes no sense. Do you know what polish means? L4D2 has none of it, the animations are garbage, lacking and missing. I mean pistols don't even have walking animations. COD isn't perfect, no game is, but it's way more polished and tight experience than the vast, VAST majority of games, just look at the ratings for yourself. I'm calling you another one of those hardcore gamer hipsters.. I've had enough of you!
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#133 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.brandontwb

COD has more production value than Valve? :lol:

The reason why people complain about COD is easy to see. Why L4D2 got an exception is also clear to see. WaW was the biggest rehash of COD yet it too got a pass because it was only the second COD game this gen. MW2 was substantially different. But MW2 got the hate because of where it failed: balance, networking, and an inability to deliver on the hype. You cannot compare the two nor discount the fact that COD leads this generation yet puts significantly less work into their products.

Much more production value than Valve, well at least L4D2 (their most unpolished game). People complain against COD because they are gamer hipsters, or again the 'general popular hardcore gamer ideology' which 99% of people conform to (Valve is best ever, COD is a joke, Battlefield destroys COD etc). Do you know anything about game design? I don't know too much to be honest, but I guarantee anyone who knows the least bit about it would tell you "significantly less work into their products" is laughable. COD is top for a reason.

What's laughable is you thinking that COD has anywhere near the level put into it as BF3 has COD is on top not for the reasons you imply either
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#134 viper-kid
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That actually looks incredibly good.

If the console version is anything close to that, it will rock sales charts.

MW3 has major competition.

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Major competition? watch when MW3 release a multiplayer footage. People need to remember MW3 hasn't shown multi yet which is its biggest attraction BF3 has shown everything now Jets and heli so now whats left to show?
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#135 TreyoftheDead
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My god. O_O

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#136 Mystic-G
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CG-worthy. I know there will be a ton of aliasing in the final release (unless you have a monster rig) but just wow. They really pushed this game to the max.

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#137 ZombieKiller7
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CoD is top because it caters to casuals, it's a casual shooter that anybody can pick up and play, with no clan, no teamwork, nothing.

BF is also a pretty casual series, but somewhat more "hardcore" in my opinion, lends itself to more teamwork and dedication.

I have no hatred of CoD at all, it just has no place in my life.

If I want mindless shooting, I play Halo.

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#138 Fizzman
Member since 2003 • 9895 Posts

There wasnt a single moment during that video where i was bored.

BF3 is the graphics and gameplay king. All bow before your new overlord.

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#139 Led_poison
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Not a big fan of the that UI
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#140 brandontwb
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@Alpha-Male22 What makes you think BF3 (a game that hasn't even been released yet) has a higher "level" (a very vague term) put into it compared to COD? I say you're blindly arguing.
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#141 brandontwb
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CoD is top because it caters to casuals, it's a casual shooter that anybody can pick up and play, with no clan, no teamwork, nothing.

BF is also a pretty casual series, but somewhat more "hardcore" in my opinion, lends itself to more teamwork and dedication.

I have no hatred of CoD at all, it just has no place in my life.

If I want mindless shooting, I play Halo.

ZombieKiller7
Halo isn't mindless shooting, well, maybe it's single player is.
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#142 lundy86_4
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Major competition? watch when MW3 release a multiplayer footage. People need to remember MW3 hasn't shown multi yet which is its biggest attraction BF3 has shown everything now Jets and heli so now whats left to show?viper-kid

What else would they need to show? That MP footage was epic.

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#143 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]1. No. 2. I shouldn't have mentioned the L4D2 boycott, it doesn't even have to do with the fact that the games are too similar.brandontwb

Ok well, you still didn't make clear what kind of polish or production values you're talking about >_> I know they pour a lot of money into advertising and reviews, and maybe some celebrity voice actors. I don't think they actually spend a lot of time or money on polishing the game. I mean last I heard the people working on it don't always get paid, and they're very busy chasing away all their talent.
COD games tend to be riddled with bugs, hacks, shortcomings, at least more so than a Valve game.

Wow, seriously, you have this all backwards. How can you say "I don't think they actually spend a lot of time or money on polishing the game." That literally makes no sense. Do you know what polish means? L4D2 has none of it, the animations are garbage, lacking and missing. I mean pistols don't even have walking animations. COD isn't perfect, no game is, but it's way more polished and tight experience than the vast, VAST majority of games, just look at the ratings for yourself. I'm calling you another one of those hardcore gamer hipsters.. I've had enough of you!

1 thing about SW is people think what they say is great and that anyone who disagrees is of less intelligence the 'elite'. That's why BF is better than cod on here while in real life its different and cod stumps on bf. Sales are fact where as 'cod sux' is opinion that's what they forget and that cod sales are going up meaning people are enjoying it while here they say its declining. Look how much hate cod gets in threads that are not related to it, why? because people are trying to justify their purchases of so called 'hardcore games' forgetting gaming is for fun. So just let him live in his fantasy world where cod isn't 'polished'.

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#144 Androvinus
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looks fantastic.. will get heaps of hours out of this and mw3.campzor
What ? You can't enjoy both !? Its impossibluh !!!
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#145 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Major competition? watch when MW3 release a multiplayer footage. People need to remember MW3 hasn't shown multi yet which is its biggest attraction BF3 has shown everything now Jets and heli so now whats left to show?lundy86_4

What else would they need to show? That MP footage was epic.

Epic? yes, but maybe beat by MW3 footage.
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#146 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Major competition? watch when MW3 release a multiplayer footage. People need to remember MW3 hasn't shown multi yet which is its biggest attraction BF3 has shown everything now Jets and heli so now whats left to show?viper-kid

What else would they need to show? That MP footage was epic.

Epic? yes, but maybe beat by MW3 footage.

*thinks about MP in the last 4 iterations of call of duty* No. Just no. Activision overloads their trailers with pre-scripted sequences which gives off the feel that it's epic and full of life around you when the multiplayer is static and repetitive.

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#147 Gibsonsg527
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CoD is top because it caters to casuals, it's a casual shooter that anybody can pick up and play, with no clan, no teamwork, nothing.

BF is also a pretty casual series, but somewhat more "hardcore" in my opinion, lends itself to more teamwork and dedication.

I have no hatred of CoD at all, it just has no place in my life.

If I want mindless shooting, I play Halo.

ZombieKiller7

wut?

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#148 lundy86_4
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Epic? yes, but maybe beat by MW3 footage.viper-kid

It's a big maybe, but you could be right. Unless they change up a lot, the overall feel of the CoD multiplayer has been similar for MW through to BO (i'm not talking inticacies, rather the general feel).

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#149 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

What else would they need to show? That MP footage was epic.

Mystic-G

Epic? yes, but maybe beat by MW3 footage.

*thinks about MP in the last 4 iterations of call of duty* No. Just no.

*thinks about quality in MW games* Yes of course. And the sales agree with me whats your facts? besides the typical 'COD Sux'.

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#150 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Epic? yes, but maybe beat by MW3 footage.lundy86_4

It's a big maybe, but you could be right. Unless they change up a lot, the overall feel of the CoD multiplayer has been similar for MW through to BO (i'm not talking inticacies, rather the general feel).

'Change a lot'? why the core aspects of the game are what we like about its why it smashes the games that try too much and mess up the core gameplay like Halo reach did.