bbbut the gt5 has 2d background

Where is the gameplay screenshots with 16 cars on track?

foxhound_fox

I find if funny that GT fans proclaim that GT5P will be nothing like GT5...but assume the game will support 16 cars..like GT5P..

...Who knew..

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

Yes, look at that stunning background, look how realistic it looks. Why it looks to me as if someone has taken a photograph and pasted it into the background. Amazing. /sarcasm

The background and enviroment in Forza still looks crap. Neither are anywhere near to how good PGR4 looks overall. Car models are superior, yes, but I find it hard to believe everything else with the exception of the roads still looks terrible.

WasntAvailable

I guess when you want a game to look bad, it's easy to ignore the good stuff that maters, and base your oppinion on the bad that doesn't.

I don't want the game to be bad. That does look alot better though. If someone wanted the game to look impressive this is what they should have shown. When I see a picture of a car going along a road with a photgraph in the background I'm not going to be impressed. If the game came out and looked like this with the car models in that enviroment then it would look impressive, which brings me to the question, why is there no car in that picture?

They showed cars running on that very track at E3 demos.... Come on... Get with the program, l have a screenshot on my desktop right now of a cockpit view of that track, l'd love to post it, but don't really want to go to the trouble of uploading it and everything. But that's one of the most shown off tracks....

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Where is the gameplay screenshots with 16 cars on track?

masiisam

I find if funny that GT fans proclaim that GT5P will be nothing like GT5...but assume the game will support 16 cars..like GT5P..

...Who knew..

As do I. I'm guessing there was a reason that GT5P didn't have starting grids and all races were flying starts with the cars strung out in a long line. And that the framerate buried itself if more than a handful of cars got bunched up in a corner. I'm not saying PD won't be able to fix this, but it really made it difficult to play under those circumstances and I wouldn't be suprised in the least if the car count dropped from 16 cars on track. Fanboys who moved from the no longer existent graphics argument to the number of cars on track argument will look a bit stupid. Not that fanboys don't already though.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony. :(

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It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

Tobin09

Yes, look at that stunning background, look how realistic it looks. Why it looks to me as if someone has taken a photograph and pasted it into the background. Amazing. /sarcasm

The background and enviroment in Forza still looks crap. Neither are anywhere near to how good PGR4 looks overall. Car models are superior, yes, but I find it hard to believe everything else with the exception of the roads still looks terrible.

I guess when you want a game to look bad, it's easy to ignore the good stuff that maters, and base your oppinion on the bad that doesn't.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

I guess when you want a game to look bad, it's easy to ignore the good stuff that maters, and base your oppinion on the bad that doesn't.

rolo107

I don't want the game to be bad. That does look alot better though. If someone wanted the game to look impressive this is what they should have shown. When I see a picture of a car going along a road with a photgraph in the background I'm not going to be impressed. If the game came out and looked like this with the car models in that enviroment then it would look impressive, which brings me to the question, why is there no car in that picture?

They showed cars running on that very track at E3 demos.... Come on... Get with the program, l have a screenshot on my desktop right now of a cockpit view of that track, l'd love to post it, but don't really want to go to the trouble of uploading it and everything. But that's one of the most shown off tracks....

here a vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq2S_2UK5KI

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Where is the gameplay screenshots with 16 cars on track?

masiisam

I find if funny that GT fans proclaim that GT5P will be nothing like GT5...but assume the game will support 16 cars..like GT5P..

...Who knew..

people are still posting those garage mode pics of forza 3?

cant fool me, i saw the gameplay vids, it looks horrible.

gt5 will be a full generation ahead of forza3.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yeah, I watched the gameplay vids. FM3 looks better than GT5, and if history repeats itself, it'll be the better playing game of the two to boot.

-RocBoys9489-

gt5 will be a full generation ahead of forza3.

ZoomZoom2490

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yeah, I watched the gameplay vids. FM3 looks better than GT5, and if history repeats itself, it'll be the better playing game of the two to boot.

Xalaten

For the same reason Burnout Paradise scored AAA and imo its one of the worst and less chalenging racing games ever made. opinions!

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

gt5 will be a full generation ahead of forza3.

PAL360

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

gt5 will be a full generation ahead of forza3.

ZoomZoom2490

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

they dont understand

if gt5 had 8 cars lol

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

gt5 will be a full generation ahead of forza3.

PAL360

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

gt5 will have more cars on track at once and they will look better regardless what Take10 is saying about polygons.

ZoomZoom2490

when i looked at the first pic i thought you posted a pic of PGR4....yup PGR4 looks as good as GT5...pwned...oh yeah forza 3 > GT5

sikanderahmed

Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony. :(

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It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

Ok guys....imo both games look great. Of course im not surprised that you ppl think GT5 will look far better and a generation ahead.......in fact Uncharted2 look better than Crysis and GT5 than real life, right?

/sarcasm :?

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

they dont understand

if gt5 had 8 cars lol

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Soo....a generation ahead the cars will have 5 times less poligons? :P

Now seriously, both games will look equally great. Why dont keep it like that? :?

nyctota

they dont understand

if gt5 had 8 cars lol

not bullshot, just photomode.

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]gt5 will have more cars on track at once and they will look better regardless what Take10 is saying about polygons.

Couth_

The real problem with too many cars on track is online. Most public online races are 3-5 laps. It's impossible to cleanly pass 15 other cars in that amount of time. Michael Shumaker couldn't do it. Even passing 7 cars is extremely difficult and the back grid player have a serious disadvantage. Though for career mode, endurance, and multi-class racing, 16 would be very nice.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Where is the gameplay screenshots with 16 cars on track?

Adrian_Cloud

I find if funny that GT fans proclaim that GT5P will be nothing like GT5...but assume the game will support 16 cars..like GT5P..

...Who knew..

Right.... Right.....

Much more than an fair "assumption"?.....How about a super assumption?..is that more reliable than a "better than sliced bread assumption?"

The funny thing is you still are trying to downplay the "assumption" aspect of it...Keep at it.....Have fun with it...

*pics*

not bullshot, just photomode.

Tobin09

and suddenly the game looks bad compared to the first BS shots

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> froza

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony. :(

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It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

stylesPS3

It's the angle it's at. Forza 3 looks more real than real life...

GT5... what?

[QUOTE="Couth_"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]gt5 will have more cars on track at once and they will look better regardless what Take10 is saying about polygons.

Wubba

The real problem with too many cars on track is online. Most public online races are 3-5 laps. It's impossible to cleanly pass 15 other cars in that amount of time. Michael Shumaker couldn't do it. Even passing 7 cars is extremely difficult and the back grid player have a serious disadvantage. Though for career mode, endurance, and multi-class racing, 16 would be very nice.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

I find if funny that GT fans proclaim that GT5P will be nothing like GT5...but assume the game will support 16 cars..like GT5P..

...Who knew..

Right.... Right.....

Much more than an fair "assumption"?.....How about a super assumption?..is that more reliable than a "better than sliced bread assumption?"

The funny thing is you still are trying to downplay the "assumption" aspect of it...Keep at it.....Have fun with it...

i love bullshots, its the way companies can get punters to buy good games with bad graphics, in this case, however, its a mediocre series with ok graphics. I'm unsure how to feel :?clembo1990

There's really no bigger graphics junkie than myself at Turn 10 and I'm constantly surprised by just how insanely next generation the game looks from a visual standpoint. Not only have the cars themselves gotten much more detailed, our 100+ tracks in the game provide some truly inspired locales to fuel your car passion. Much of the leap in graphical fidelity with Forza 3 was made possible by our game engine developers, whom, in the early days (think summer of 2007) set out to rebuild a new renderer and content pipeline for Forza 3. So just like before, Forza 3 runs at a glassy smooth 60 frames-per-second, with our physics calculating underneath the hood at a much higher framerate. New shaders and tech puts the finishing touches on an already handsome Forza Motorsport 2. Likewise, with the gameplay video, everything was captured in-game with no faked CG whatsoever. At Turn 10, we don't do bullshots.

comeon man, get over it, the game really does look good.

And yes, I do know it's photomode,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXx4-gKi9M heres an ingame video, direct feed. Sorry for the quality, I know the video makes everything look all muddy. but it's still HD,

[QUOTE="Couth_"]The problem with having so many cars on track isn't the visuals, it's the A.I. which is what Polyphony needs to be working on more right now

The real problem with too many cars on track is online. Most public online races are 3-5 laps. It's impossible to cleanly pass 15 other cars in that amount of time. Michael Shumaker couldn't do it. Even passing 7 cars is extremely difficult and the back grid player have a serious disadvantage. Though for career mode, endurance, and multi-class racing, 16 would be very nice.

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

*pics*

not bullshot, just photomode.

nyctota

and suddenly the game looks bad compared to the first BS shots

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> froza

Man, that Le Mans car looks awful. Check out those blocky tires and toy looking car model. And look at all that damn motion blur. Yuck! Egads!

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

*pics*

not bullshot, just photomode.

and suddenly the game looks bad compared to the first BS shots

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> froza

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Wubba"]

The real problem with too many cars on track is online. Most public online races are 3-5 laps. It's impossible to cleanly pass 15 other cars in that amount of time. Michael Shumaker couldn't do it. Even passing 7 cars is extremely difficult and the back grid player have a serious disadvantage. Though for career mode, endurance, and multi-class racing, 16 would be very nice.

stylesPS3

that pic doesn't do the F1 car any justice, ingame it looks more solid.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

*pics*

not bullshot, just photomode.

BioShockOwnz

and suddenly the game looks bad compared to the first BS shots

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> froza

Man, that Le Mans car looks awful. Check out those blocky tires and toy looking car model. And look at all that damn motion blur. Yuck! Egads!

Finally a sony fanboy provided us a pic where we can see the lack of poligons!!! Seriously, theres GT pics far better than that one :P

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Well the trailer did have 16 cars on track, so its much more than a fair "assumption". stylesPS3

Right.... Right.....

Much more than an fair "assumption"?.....How about a super assumption?..is that more reliable than a "better than sliced bread assumption?"

The funny thing is you still are trying to downplay the "assumption" aspect of it...Keep at it.....Have fun with it...

You quoted me by accident because what you just said has nothing to do with my posts..

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

and suddenly the game looks bad compared to the first BS shots

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> froza

PAL360

Man, that Le Mans car looks awful. Check out those blocky tires and toy looking car model. And look at all that damn motion blur. Yuck! Egads!

Finally a sony fanboy provided us a pic where we can see the lack of poligons!!! Seriously, theres GT pics far better than that one :P

and totally ignore the size of that pic lets resize forza pics lol

heres a lemans car,

I think it's funny everyone claims forza is doing bullshots, it's proven they arn't.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Man, that Le Mans car looks awful. Check out those blocky tires and toy looking car model. And look at all that damn motion blur. Yuck! Egads!

Finally a sony fanboy provided us a pic where we can see the lack of poligons!!! Seriously, theres GT pics far better than that one :P

and totally ignore the size of that pic lets resize forza pics lol

Pretty good considering how upclose the pic is.

heres a lemans car,

I think it's funny everyone claims forza is doing bullshots, it's proven they arn't.

Tobin09

That looks so much more realistic than the GT5 shot.

And smooth, realistic tires in FM3:

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

heres a lemans car,

I think it's funny everyone claims forza is doing bullshots, it's proven they arn't.

BioShockOwnz

That looks so much more realistic than the GT5 shot.

And smooth, realistic tires in FM3:

Looks great. And thank you...i was looking for one of these! :)

lol at Forza 3

16 cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 cars

lol at Forza 3

Jeez Bioshock posting enough pics are we? You have posted more Forza 3 pics in this thread than everyone else has since the game was announced.

Now if you don't mind me saying, no Forza 3 does not look as good as GT5, as I don't know what it is about it but something feels off about the graphics. Like they're trying to get graphics like GT but pulling off a more Ridge Racer look.

But Forza doesn't look bad in the least, just not as good looking as GT5 IMO.