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#251 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] That looks Awesome!!, not gameplay (how can cows post photo mode shots but lemmings cant? :P) but it still looks awesome

Not photomode, that's replay. GT5P doesn't have a photomode and replay does not add grass blades or change the amount of polygons in the car models or track models. Replay just adds filter effects and some motion blur which reduces the framerate to 30 FPS.

photomode/ replay, same thing,

Not really (Well, not for the GT series). GT4's photomode added many effects that weren't even in the replays. And photomode adds as much AA as possible since the still photos are pre-rendered.
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#252 nyctota
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And PGR4 destroys it in the environments department. Heck there are day/night cycles, weather patterns and importantly, the cities are HUGE. But offcourse, Cows are too short-sighted to realise that-Pred-Alien-

wait what..... forza 3 didnt work now we try it with PGR4 ?

major fail

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]And PGR4 destroys it in the environments department. Heck there are day/night cycles, weather patterns and importantly, the cities are HUGE. But offcourse, Cows are too short-sighted to realise thatnyctota

wait what..... forza 3 didnt work now we try it with PGR4 ?

major fail

Straw-grasping for the win! :P
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#254 Midnightshade29
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Yeah, I watched the gameplay vids. FM3 looks better than GT5, and if history repeats itself, it'll be the better playing game of the two to boot.

BioShockOwnz
I guess you were just talking out your .... in the other thread when you said that they both look great....first time I ever heard you say one thing good about any playstation product....you constantly bash anything ps , and have been called out on it so many times. Why did you lie on the other thread?
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#255 CHRION987
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]Here is somthing to think about. Most F3 and GT5 screens are touched up promo shots or not actaul gameplay.ZoomZoom2490

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zKkbW8TbjQ&feature=related

watch and drooool.

at 45-46 secs you get a good look at the low res generic audience that is frozen in place

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#256 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]And PGR4 destroys it in the environments department. Heck there are day/night cycles, weather patterns and importantly, the cities are HUGE. But offcourse, Cows are too short-sighted to realise thatnyctota

wait what..... forza 3 didnt work now we try it with PGR4 ?

major fail

Thirsty are we?? :lol:

grasping for straws

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#257 EliteKitteh
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:lol: Forza

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#258 Delsage
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@EliteKitteh, yes it seems the Xbox fans are in denial at the moment. Though we usually go through this with every exclusive that has good graphics. First it was Gears vs. Uncharted which the winner was clear, than it was Gears 2 vs. Killzone 2 again obvious winner but the fight still went on, now it's GT5 vs. Forza 3.

Do you see a pattern happening here. Almost all of the time the Xbox fans give in and then go onto the the next exclusives saying "Well this game looks better than Uncharted 2." or "This game will beat the crap out of Heavy Rain in graphics.". Will it ever end? Who knows.

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#259 MrGrimFandango
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Eh, In-game that I have seen FM3 is the best graphics so far. GT5P car models look dull, nothing reflects and the environments are really stale.
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#260 mazdero
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Dude, thats an F1 car not Le Mans. if you are going to make fanboy comments about a racing game, at least use the proper racing series.

masiisam

Sadly there is no more F1... :cry::cry:.......might as well be a LMP...

eh??!!! no more F1 in GT5?!! well, I guess its good that I own F1 chamionship then lol. thats sucks though.

btw Brawn Mercedes FTL!!!!! :P

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#261 Al3x_n90
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Yeah, I watched the gameplay vids. FM3 looks better than GT5, and if history repeats itself, it'll be the better playing game of the two to boot.

BioShockOwnz

No, actually it doesn't, at best forza3 looks on par with GT5(this coming from a forza fan), seriously i kinda find GT5p boring, maybe it's just not my type of game, but when it comes to graphics, it's a treat.Also correct me if i'm wrong but i believe GT5 will have more cars than F3.

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#262 nyctota
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@EliteKitteh, yes it seems the Xbox fans are in denial at the moment. Though we usually go through this with every exclusive that has good graphics. First it was Gears vs. Uncharted which the winner was clear, than it was Gears 2 vs. Killzone 2 again obvious winner but the fight still went on, now it's GT5 vs. Forza 3.

Do you see a pattern happening here. Almost all of the time the Xbox fans give in and then go onto the the next exclusives saying "Well this game looks better than Uncharted 2." or "This game will beat the crap out of Heavy Rain in graphics.". Will it ever end? Who knows.

Delsage

with this

and this http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/gran-turismo-5-vs-forza-3/321268

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyKJa0Q2mu4&feature=related

we can now close the thread and agree its:

gt5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forza 3

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#263 DethSkematik
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Why is it so hard to say that both games look utterly fantastic? Why does one game have to be awesome, and the other game have to look like crap?pyromaniac223
My thoughts exactly, my man. ;) Anyway, yes, those screenshots look killer. And so does Forza. The only flaw I see between the two is that I won't be getting them, on account that I don't like racing games. Yeah, shocking...I know. :P
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#264 nyctota
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Why is it so hard to say that both games look utterly fantastic? Why does one game have to be awesome, and the other game have to look like crap?DethSkematik
My thoughts exactly, my man. ;) Anyway, yes, those screenshots look killer. And so does Forza. The only flaw I see between the two is that I won't be getting them, on account that I don't like racing games. Yeah, shocking...I know. :P

nobody said forza 3 looks bad and if i did im so sorry i hurt ya feelings

the point is GT5 looks better... :D

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#266 nyctota
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I don't know why do GT fans always hype GT graphics so much, i didn't find GT5P graphics impressive at any time, not even the London track because this game looks really average in gameplay, i was very dissapointed with the graphics when i start playing the game for the first time, they are nothing like all thios photo mode shots or the intro in GT5P or the new GT5 trailer, it's like day and night, gameplay looks really weak.

If you compare GT5P with Uncharted 2, KZ2 or Crysis, Gears 2 and games like this it looks like **** there is absolutely no detail, just in cars, the rest is crap, flat textures with tons of 2d stuff and crazy sterile and empty environments, i dont even know how could people name this game as graphics king some months ago, it's so freaking avertage looking while playing, even replays are pretty weak for most of the time, only some camera positions make it look very goodd, but for most of the time this game looks jaggie, empty and flat with really dark shadows on the trees and building which are trying to hide the poor detail.

Flame on me as much as you want, i dont care, GT games where graphical always so freaking overrated, the only thing that always looked good in GT games where the cars but when you put the cras on this kind of environments it looks like a joke.

skyform

you need some sleep if gt5 doesnt impress you forza 3 never will

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#267 EliteKitteh
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I don't know why do GT fans always hype GT graphics so much, i didn't find GT5P graphics impressive at any time, not even the London track because this game looks really average in gameplay, i was very dissapointed with the graphics when i start playing the game for the first time, they are nothing like all thios photo mode shots or the intro in GT5P or the new GT5 trailer, it's like day and night, gameplay looks really weak.

If you compare GT5P with Uncharted 2, KZ2 or Crysis, Gears 2 and games like this it looks like **** there is absolutely no detail, just in cars, the rest is crap, flat textures with tons of 2d stuff and crazy sterile and empty environments, i dont even know how could people name this game as graphics king some months ago, it's so freaking avertage looking while playing, even replays are pretty weak for most of the time, only some camera positions make it look very goodd, but for most of the time this game looks jaggie, empty and flat with really dark shadows on the trees and building which are trying to hide the poor detail.

Flame on me as much as you want, i dont care, GT games where graphical always so freaking overrated, the only thing that always looked good in GT games where the cars but when you put the cras on this kind of environments it looks like a joke.

skyform

Of course the environment are sterile and empty. They're RACE TRACKS. Real ones. What do you want Polyphony to do, add a bunch of pretty rocks to Suzuka and Daytona?

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#268 nyctota
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[QUOTE="skyform"]

I don't know why do GT fans always hype GT graphics so much, i didn't find GT5P graphics impressive at any time, not even the London track because this game looks really average in gameplay, i was very dissapointed with the graphics when i start playing the game for the first time, they are nothing like all thios photo mode shots or the intro in GT5P or the new GT5 trailer, it's like day and night, gameplay looks really weak.

If you compare GT5P with Uncharted 2, KZ2 or Crysis, Gears 2 and games like this it looks like **** there is absolutely no detail, just in cars, the rest is crap, flat textures with tons of 2d stuff and crazy sterile and empty environments, i dont even know how could people name this game as graphics king some months ago, it's so freaking avertage looking while playing, even replays are pretty weak for most of the time, only some camera positions make it look very goodd, but for most of the time this game looks jaggie, empty and flat with really dark shadows on the trees and building which are trying to hide the poor detail.

Flame on me as much as you want, i dont care, GT games where graphical always so freaking overrated, the only thing that always looked good in GT games where the cars but when you put the cras on this kind of environments it looks like a joke.

EliteKitteh

Of course the environment are sterile and empty. They're RACE TRACKS. Real ones. What do you want Polyphony to do, add a bunch of pretty rocks to Suzuka and Daytona?

maybe naked chicks will help

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#271 nyctota
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="skyform"]

I don't know why do GT fans always hype GT graphics so much, i didn't find GT5P graphics impressive at any time, not even the London track because this game looks really average in gameplay, i was very dissapointed with the graphics when i start playing the game for the first time, they are nothing like all thios photo mode shots or the intro in GT5P or the new GT5 trailer, it's like day and night, gameplay looks really weak.

If you compare GT5P with Uncharted 2, KZ2 or Crysis, Gears 2 and games like this it looks like **** there is absolutely no detail, just in cars, the rest is crap, flat textures with tons of 2d stuff and crazy sterile and empty environments, i dont even know how could people name this game as graphics king some months ago, it's so freaking avertage looking while playing, even replays are pretty weak for most of the time, only some camera positions make it look very goodd, but for most of the time this game looks jaggie, empty and flat with really dark shadows on the trees and building which are trying to hide the poor detail.

Flame on me as much as you want, i dont care, GT games where graphical always so freaking overrated, the only thing that always looked good in GT games where the cars but when you put the cras on this kind of environments it looks like a joke.

skyform

you need some sleep if gt5 doesnt impress you forza 3 never will

The only racing game that impressed me this gen was PGR3 because it looked really good for the time it came out but all other racers just dont look much better anymore included PGR4, environments are still one of the best in PGR3/PGR4 and it looks better then GT5P when playing it, cars look way worse but i dont play in the position with the car outsied so i watch just at environments when playing and PGR3 & 4 win in this, probably because of 30fps but it still looks very smooth with the motion blur and all the effects that makes the whole graphics and environemts look way more detailed and no so unatmospheric as in GT5P, like you are playing a old racing game from a PC.

I will buy both GT5 and FM3 but if they dont change much from GT5P and FM2 both will dissapoint me in gameplay.

If GT5 will still use the same crap online loby and system, it's ruined for me and from what i have seen FM3 still has this stupid grass and sand blockades that stop you in 1 sec from 200-300kmh to 0kmh, this is the biggest crap i have ever seen in a racing sim.

The thing that i miss very much on console racing sims is practice and quali before the, it's so boring just to start the race immediately with a random grid, Race Pro is probably the first console racing sim game that has this funciton.

Also if GT5 wont have damage on normal cars then this is again big problem for me as with FM3's no changing weather and no day and night cycle, comone, it's already T10 3th game and Polys 5th and still not all features in both games, man PC has already full damage and changing weather from early 90s.

It's so sad that console games always have to be more arcady and adapted for casual gamers when full sim games always are more fun with more features.

now im 100% sure you need some sleep

how in the world can PGR4..... omg nevermind im speechless

i quit

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#272 Oakfront
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Forza 3>GT 5 all day long in every department.

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#274 razgriz_101
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Why is it so hard to say that both games look utterly fantastic? Why does one game have to be awesome, and the other game have to look like crap?pyromaniac223

cause by most peoples graphics standards minor diffrences in graphics always = a better game -_-.

And i agree both will be great games, but i will only pick up GT5 as i dont have a 360 yet :'( have Forza 1 on Xbox got it for £4 the other week and found it to be a lot of fun but i prefer GT cause i like its career mode better, and the fact when 5 hits the shelves me and a couple of friends are gonna race a lot online once we get good cars.

One thing im wondering is how will the stuff from prologue carry over.

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#275 The_Game21x
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:lol: Forza

EliteKitteh

Hooray for poor comparisons I guess.

How about we wait until Forza 3 comes out and people can make a fair comparison between the two (you know, one with similar camera angles and perspectives :|) before we judge.

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#276 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

:lol: Forza

The_Game21x

Hooray for poor comparisons I guess.

How about we wait until Forza 3 comes out and people can make a fair comparison between the two (you know, one with similar camera angles and perspectives :|) before we judge.

your one to talk, comparing GT5: P to Forza 2 :| Anyhow, we should wait i no 360 fans may not be used to it (Too Human), but sometimes patience is good(MGS4).
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#277 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

:lol: Forza

Adrian_Cloud

Hooray for poor comparisons I guess.

How about we wait until Forza 3 comes out and people can make a fair comparison between the two (you know, one with similar camera angles and perspectives :|) before we judge.

your one to talk, comparing GT5: P to Forza 2 :| Anyhow, we should wait i no 360 fans may not be used to it (Too Human), but sometimes patience is good(MGS4).

And...where did I compare the car models in GT5: P to Forza 2? :|

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#278 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Hooray for poor comparisons I guess.

How about we wait until Forza 3 comes out and people can make a fair comparison between the two (you know, one with similar camera angles and perspectives :|) before we judge.

The_Game21x

your one to talk, comparing GT5: P to Forza 2 :| Anyhow, we should wait i no 360 fans may not be used to it (Too Human), but sometimes patience is good(MGS4).

And...where did I compare the car models in GT5: P to Forza 2? :|

You shouldn't compare them......at all.
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#279 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] your one to talk, comparing GT5: P to Forza 2 :| Anyhow, we should wait i no 360 fans may not be used to it (Too Human), but sometimes patience is good(MGS4).Adrian_Cloud

And...where did I compare the car models in GT5: P to Forza 2? :|

You shouldn't compare them......at all.

Then blame the person who started the thread. :|
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#280 Magik85
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Looks great.

But, based on my experience, PGR4 is still the best looking game out there when it comes to environments. Add in the day and night tracks and the weather effects and you have what is still one of the best looking games this gen as far as I'm concerned.

The_Game21x
Im 100% with you about this. People seem to forget how good this 2007 game looked...duh i bet most of those who claim that pgr4 is poor graphicly didnt even played it. Somehow it looks way better than on press released screens. Sure if you look closely at photomode the car models they aint as detailed as GT5 ones...but i personally dont give a sh*t about details that are noticable only with ultraclose shots and you cant see them while playing the game anyway. Cause with TPP race view PRG4 cars still looks awesome with great reflections etc. And environments looks very realistic...they avoided 2d backgrounds making really detailed buildings, street facture and great color accuracy. And the most important thing is that there is no disproportion between cars and environments...they are very even and matches perfectly giving ya overall great looking game. Im not saying its better than GT5/FM3 but those 2 games definitly arent revolution.
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#281 Furzjodler
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GT5P has 3D backgrounds of course, but they really don't look that much better then PGR4s.

Some pics i took from PGR4:

Don't forget that PGR4 has weather effects unlike GT5P.

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#282 Magik85
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Sorry about offtopic but could anyone explain me how can i post screenies? Id be gratefull for PM.
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#283 NinjaMunkey01
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Sorry about offtopic but could anyone explain me how can i post screenies? Id be gratefull for PM.Magik85
couldnt let this thread die could you XD I put screens on photobucket and then copy them over, if theyre your own.
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#284 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

:lol: Forza

vs



WTF??? Okay now Im doubtle won over, GT5 wins XD That last photo is what just
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#285 UnamedThing
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Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony.

It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

BioShockOwnz

Jesus, that's incredible. You have to wonder if those are bull-shots though.

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#286 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony.

It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

UnamedThing

Jesus, that's incredible. You have to wonder if those are bull-shots though.

watch my video in my sig, it shows gamesplay footage and graphics. Watching that visually GT5 is the better looking game. Its just much more relistic, the shading and lighting is better, and the colurs are better, then its also more detailed, 1080p, 2x the cars ect...

EDIT:Also those pics arnt fake, but its not gameplay, its from photomode which ads bits and pieces to make it look better. Which is why i have been comparing the games with the gameplay video in my sig, its a much better way to see what they TEALLY look like in motion...

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#288 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="UnamedThing"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Wow, that doesn't even touch Forza 3 in graphics. :| I expected more from Polyphony.

It seems Turn 10 not only has created better backgrounds, but far superior models to boot.

NinjaMunkey01

Jesus, that's incredible. You have to wonder if those are bull-shots though.

watch my video in my sig, it shows gamesplay footage and graphics. Watching that visually GT5 is the better looking game. Its just much more relistic, the shading and lighting is better, and the colurs are better, then its also more detailed, 1080p, 2x the cars ect...

EDIT:Also those pics arnt fake, but its not gameplay, its from photomode which ads bits and pieces to make it look better. Which is why i have been comparing the games with the gameplay video in my sig, its a much better way to see what they TEALLY look like in motion...

I watched it. I honestly couldn't tell the difference. Both games look astounding.
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#289 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

:lol: Forza

vs



NinjaMunkey01

not posting actual screenshots ftl

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#290 Tobin09
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Forza 3>GT 5 all day long in every department.

Oakfront
except graphics, number of cars. Why is this thread still going?
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#291 Tobin09
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

:lol: Forza

vs



not posting actual screenshots ftl

Yea, gt5 looks better, we know that, but I don't get why cows still feel they need to post garage mode, and offscreen to compare to forza.
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#292 SambaLele
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Why is it so hard to say that both games look utterly fantastic? Why does one game have to be awesome, and the other game have to look like crap?pyromaniac223

Yup.

Both games look amazing.

But no one in his/her right mind could say that GT5 is not the best looking racing game out there. It's the Crysis of racing games. And that's about it.

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#293 killa4lyfe
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Forza 3>GT 5 all day long in every department.

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except graphics, number of cars. Why is this thread still going?

i dont get it people just keep saying GT5 > FM3 or vice versa when NONE of the games have come out yet...

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#294 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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Don't forget.. Forza does a hell of a lot more stuff than any GT game. Physics, damage... you know, things that actually matter in a driving simulator.