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The PS2 is still the RPG king and will be for a VERY long time.foxhound_foxThat is inconsequential. Almost everyone owns a PS2, and they aren't making that many RPGs for it anymore.
Lol mostly mediocore GAMES that even cant be CALLED RPG (learn what real RPG is)
And btw Mass Effect PC version is bether, Oblivion also Pc version is bether, FF13 will eventualy come to PC also (even s-e said something about that) Fable 2 will aslo come to pc sooner or later... what a king... Console king - yes but from all platforms PC is still king.
Witcher alone can beat all those rpgs on list lol
must be pretty expensive to live there*sings* with your beady little eyes and flapping heads so full of lies :Pill tell you what, lets hijack this thread, this now a thread about Canada
st1ka
[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I just like the setting and the possibilities based off its CGI trailer.Hmm I saw a picture of FF Versus which leads me to ask people a question?
What is so compelling about this game other then its a Final Fantasy and the KH team? As of right now I'm worried as hell for the game. Why you may ask? Well I'll tell you why.
Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.
- Kingodm Hearts Battle System = Good
- TPS = Bad (this is Square Enix lol)
- Dirge of Cerberus = Bad
too_much_eslim
Call me crazy but I could care less about a CGI Trailer compared to actually real time game.
The PS2 is still the RPG king and will be for a VERY long time.foxhound_fox
?
We don't call king X 2 the king over king x 1?
Understand- each gen provides different experiences. If you look back, truth is you'd probably prefer this list over some old games.
And besides, the 360 has a pure hybrid of JRPGs and WRPGs. Maybe a little more JRPGs, but it is still balanced.
Wow... only one of those interest me...and that's FFXIIIWINDWAKER1For me: Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Fable 2, FF13. I don't know much about any of the others, or I don't care about them.
[QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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Supafly1
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
Also, Last Remnant will be on the PC, as will Fable 2.
I dont see why they didnt add Final Fantasy 13 while they were at it but oh well.
this so, so ,so true.Lol mostly mediocore GAMES that even cant be CALLED RPG (learn what real RPG is)
And btw Mass Effect PC version is bether, Oblivion also Pc version is bether, FF13 will eventualy come to PC also (even s-e said something about that) Fable 2 will aslo come to pc sooner or later... what a king... Console king - yes but from all platforms PC is still king.
Witcher alone can beat all those rpgs on list lol
_rpg_FAN
That is inconsequential. Almost everyone owns a PS2, and they aren't making that many RPGs for it anymore.Jandurin
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]I just like the setting and the possibilities based off its CGI trailer.Hmm I saw a picture of FF Versus which leads me to ask people a question?
What is so compelling about this game other then its a Final Fantasy and the KH team? As of right now I'm worried as hell for the game. Why you may ask? Well I'll tell you why.
Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.
- Kingodm Hearts Battle System = Good
- TPS = Bad (this is Square Enix lol)
- Dirge of Cerberus = Bad
Blackbond
Call me crazy but I could care less about a CGI Trailer compared to actually real time game.
True I hope it is good. Idin't know about all that TPS stuff[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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PC360Wii
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]That is inconsequential. Almost everyone owns a PS2, and they aren't making that many RPGs for it anymore.foxhound_fox
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]IMO
DS> PSP>360>Wii>PS3
for RPGS
This is not counting the PC because I don't own a gaming PC.
too_much_eslim
really PSOP? thought it only had 2 or 3 rpgs. Also the PS3 has a better selection of RPGs then the wii.
First the PSP has FF7:CC, Monster Rancher, Star Ocean 1 and 2 are coming, Xenogears is coming to the download, FF1 remake, FF2 remake, and Kingdom Hearts coming.
Wii has FF: fables, TOS2, Paper Mario, King's Story, FF:CC and Fushigi no Dungeon 2
With FF13 on either system the only RPG I am looking forward to on the PS3 is Valkyria Chronicles which comes out in November.
Where I plan on buying FF: Fables next week.
while I've recently started playing WoW, it doesn't feel like an RPG, it feels like an MMO.MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Gamerman12362
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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Gamerman12362
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
360 does not have dragon age the guys who made rpg's whatthey are to day. The real rpg legends!!! oh snapblackdreamhunk
yes it does :|
[QUOTE="Gamerman12362"]while I've recently started playing WoW, it doesn't feel like an RPG, it feels like an MMO.MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Jandurin
MMO-RPG, same genre...
The TC included AGE OF CONAN, which is an MMO, or are we going to have more console hypocrisy? ( Not from you jand. )
It's different. I don't consider it an RPG. I don't care if God or Blizzard or you tells me different.Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
PC360Wii
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]360 does not have dragon age the guys who made rpg's whatthey are to day. The real rpg legends!!! oh snapst1ka
actually yes it does, and so does the PS3
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]It's different. I don't consider it an RPG. I don't care if God or Blizzard or you tells me different.Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
Jandurin
Why? Because it doesnt shove a camera down NPC's throats and make a hand held story cutscene?
Other than that? how is NOT an RPG? You roleplay your own character, doing whatever you choose, you stat up, you fight bosses.
Its an RPG... thats like saying an MMOFPS isnt an FPS....
[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I just like the setting and the possibilities based off its CGI trailer.same here i was more interested in versus purely because of the darker theme and character but after readin that info ^^ me not so sure anymore..Hmm I saw a picture of FF Versus which leads me to ask people a question?
What is so compelling about this game other then its a Final Fantasy and the KH team? As of right now I'm worried as hell for the game. Why you may ask? Well I'll tell you why.
Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.
too_much_eslim
- Kingodm Hearts Battle System = Good
- TPS = Bad (this is Square Enix lol)
- Dirge of Cerberus = Bad
[QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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PC360Wii
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
what Im getting at is that WOW doesn't feel like a rpg.
I pretty much like any quality rpg. I don't like WOW. Not because it's not quality, it is, but because it plays nothing like rpgs. It's basically a grindfest. It doesn't really have a proper story build up either.
People group jrpgs and wrpgs apart. MMOs need to be grouped even further apart.
for the record, AoC shouldn't be there.
?We don't call king X 2 the king over king x 1?
Understand- each gen provides different experiences. If you look back, truth is you'd probably prefer this list over some old games.
And besides, the 360 has a pure hybrid of JRPGs and WRPGs. Maybe a little more JRPGs, but it is still balanced.
Gamerman12362
You seem to be forgetting Blizzard/Bioware/Obsidian and D@D.Kez1984
I don't have a reason. It's different. It feels different.Why? Because it doesnt shove a camera down NPC's throats and make a hand held story cutscene?
Other than that? how is NOT an RPG? You roleplay your own character, doing whatever you choose, you stat up, you fight bosses.
Its an RPG... thats like saying an MMOFPS isnt an FPS....
PC360Wii
[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]360 does not have dragon age the guys who made rpg's whatthey are to day. The real rpg legends!!! oh snapblackdreamhunk
actually yes it does, and so does the PS3
your right my bad, but it will be on the 360
Hmm I saw a picture of FF Versus which leads me to ask people a question?
What is so compelling about this game other then its a Final Fantasy and the KH team? As of right now I'm worried as hell for the game. Why you may ask? Well I'll tell you why.
Within recent Japanese gaming magazine interviews, Tetsuya Nomura has stated that Versus XIII's gameplay will be a realistic derivation of Kingdom Hearts battle system with some elements of a third-person shooter - similar to Square Enix's Dirge of Cerberus.
- Kingodm Hearts Battle System = Good
- TPS = Bad (this is Square Enix lol)
- Dirge of Cerberus = Bad
Blackbond
Well for a few reasons Bond
1 Its going to be the first Final fantasy game to be in such a setting and most probably be rated M.
Secondly, I really enjoyed the kingdom hearts battle system
Also, although it is a TPS, its going to be mainly sword fights not just guns ( Im basing this off the trailer). The game just seems interesting to me, thinking of the possibilitys such as equiping different weapons like in KH. Basically it seems like a more adult version of KH in HD, which I really want :)
People group jrpgs and wrpgs apart. MMOs need to be grouped even further apart.Gamerman12362Agreed. Though I *do* like WoW. Rather a lot. It's very cool.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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Gamerman12362
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
what Im getting at is that WOW doesn't feel like a rpg.
I pretty much like any quality rpg. I don't like WOW. Not because it's not quality, it is, but because it plays nothing like rpgs. It's basically a grindfest. It doesn't really have a proper story build up either.
People group jrpgs and wrpgs apart. MMOs need to be grouped even further apart.
Usually I would let VandalVideo come in and proof you wrong, but saying WoW has no proper story is just an incredible ammount of fail.
And it plays exactly like any Action RPG, infact, Final Fantasy 12/13 anyone? plays exactly like MMO's.
Grind or not, bosses are more epic, theres a legion more story than any single player game available.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]I don't have a reason. It's different. It feels different.Why? Because it doesnt shove a camera down NPC's throats and make a hand held story cutscene?
Other than that? how is NOT an RPG? You roleplay your own character, doing whatever you choose, you stat up, you fight bosses.
Its an RPG... thats like saying an MMOFPS isnt an FPS....
Jandurin
Many RPG's feel different from eachother ;o, theyre still RPGs.
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]360 does not have dragon age the guys who made rpg's whatthey are to day. The real rpg legends!!! oh snapst1ka
actually yes it does, and so does the PS3
Nope, being made for the pc ground up, no multiplat in mind, no timed exclusive, no simultaneous or started development on other formats, afterwords, they said they are thinking about consoles, they said, franchise, fall we know, it might be a "Dark Allaince" action oriented game. Even at that, it's pc, no dumbing down, no control pad in mind.
Most of the games listed for the 360 are diet coke RPG's, if you think diet coke is better than regular coke, knock yourself out.
Final Fantasy 12/13 anyone? PC360Wiithey made 12 like WoW because of popularity. Idiots. (not you, S-E)
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]PS2 for the JRPG's and PC for the WRPG's.Jandurinand 360 for both
so true.
Why can't people just say that the 360 is the best for rpgs? It's not a big deal. It just pretty obvious. THe ps3 and pc have like no rpgs coming except multiplats that the 360 have.
I don't care :x Vandal couldn't change my mind any more than you could. Before I played it, I would've been convinceable. MMORPG should be its own genre, it's a roleplaying game, but not an RPG, in my book.Many RPG's feel different from eachother ;o, theyre still RPGs.
PC360Wii
[QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
/thread
PC360Wii
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
what Im getting at is that WOW doesn't feel like a rpg.
I pretty much like any quality rpg. I don't like WOW. Not because it's not quality, it is, but because it plays nothing like rpgs. It's basically a grindfest. It doesn't really have a proper story build up either.
People group jrpgs and wrpgs apart. MMOs need to be grouped even further apart.
Usually I would let VandalVideo come in and proof you wrong, but saying WoW has no proper story is just an incredible ammount of fail.
And it plays exactly like any Action RPG, infact, Final Fantasy 12/13 anyone? plays exactly like MMO's.
Grind or not, bosses are more epic, theres a legion more story than any single player game available.
No, WoW doesn't have a proper story. Do people not see that an rpg needs some sort of personal conflict? You're playing a role and that role must be fleshed out. They may not just change the world. They just have to show the impact of something greatly to a character. Role choosing doesn't matter for it to be role playing. You just have to play a role of a very fleshed out role
And for the record- Final Fantasy 13 has battle screens with regular ATB (but sped up) battling.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]I don't care :x Vandal couldn't change my mind any more than you could. Before I played it, I would've been convinceable. MMORPG should be its own genre, it's a roleplaying game, but not an RPG, in my book.Many RPG's feel different from eachother ;o, theyre still RPGs.
Jandurin
Oh well ;D , Until they remove MMO - RPG from its name its still an RPG :P even though your disagree, you cant fight that fact, which as you know is what we go by here :P
as gamerman just said, the problem is: there's no underlying, overlying.. there's no conflict at all. just: go get quest, help questgiver out, receive xp and items, join guild, meet humans, fight in battlegrounds. There's no.. beginning, middle, and end. There's no character development save what you imagine for yourself.Oh well ;D , Until they remove MMO - RPG from its name its still an RPG :P even though your disagree, you cant fight that fact, which as you know is what we go by here :P
PC360Wii
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]pc>x360
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Gamerman12362
Yeah, Witcher doesn't beat all these RPG's, sorry.
World of Warcraft is major missing factor in that RPG list. without it, nothing wins.
MMOs suck. This is coming from someone's who favorite genre is rpgs, from both sides.
MMOs take everything good out of a rpg.
Says you, 10 million people and being the highest rated MMO of all time disagrees.
Boss fights are 10x better in WoW than any single player RPG.
what Im getting at is that WOW doesn't feel like a rpg.
I pretty much like any quality rpg. I don't like WOW. Not because it's not quality, it is, but because it plays nothing like rpgs. It's basically a grindfest. It doesn't really have a proper story build up either.
People group jrpgs and wrpgs apart. MMOs need to be grouped even further apart.
Usually I would let VandalVideo come in and proof you wrong, but saying WoW has no proper story is just an incredible ammount of fail.
And it plays exactly like any Action RPG, infact, Final Fantasy 12/13 anyone? plays exactly like MMO's.
Grind or not, bosses are more epic, theres a legion more story than any single player game available.
No, WoW doesn't have a proper story. Do people not see that an rpg needs some sort of personal conflict? You're playing a role and that role must be fleshed out. They may not just change the world. They just have to show the impact of something greatly to a character. Role choosing doesn't matter for it to be role playing. You just have to play a role of a very fleshed out role
Pure opinion, we play out the roles of the Heroes, just because the camera doesnt obsess about us. doesnt make it any less so, we live out the Conflicts of the factions.
Your Roles in an RPG are not led by scripted characters, which why alot of people here argue that most JRPG's are not true RPGs like alot of Western games that thrive on open world and self-created characters.
Our story and role changes on what myself and my friends/guild mates do, my story is told in quest chains leading up to the final battle.
Sorry, JRPG's are not prime examples, if you think so ... then ... well.... I have to agree to disagree.
WoW has incredible ammounts of lore, lore is story, you play out the stories.
The Burning Crusade was amazing for this, everything important ( Aka non leveling quests ) fitted in perfectly.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]as gamerman just said, the problem is: there's no underlying, overlying.. there's no conflict at all. just: go get quest, help questgiver out, receive xp and items, join guild, meet humans, fight in battlegrounds. There's no.. beginning, middle, and end. There's no character development save what you imagine for yourself.Oh well ;D , Until they remove MMO - RPG from its name its still an RPG :P even though your disagree, you cant fight that fact, which as you know is what we go by here :P
Jandurin
I'd just like to add.
This isn't neccessarily bad, but it's just not an rpg.
Basically WoW is classified as a rpg on the fact that you level up and get better gear. Although these are things you find in rpgs, it doesn't make them a rpg.
Nothing wrong with not being a rpg though.
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