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#3551 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im proboly late to the party here but I saw a vid called shotgun sniper. Are they going to fix that?

seanmcloughlin

Run around with a shotgun and you will realise you can't hit anything and kill it from more than a few feet away. Shotguns got hugely nerfed for BF3 and rightly so

Only when trying to use it long range. Up close they are amazing.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im proboly late to the party here but I saw a vid called shotgun sniper. Are they going to fix that?

Iantheone

Run around with a shotgun and you will realise you can't hit anything and kill it from more than a few feet away. Shotguns got hugely nerfed for BF3 and rightly so

Only when trying to use it long range. Up close they are amazing.

That's what I mean. In BC2 they were deadly from halfway across the map. In BF3 they are short range and lethal like they should be. They were unbalanced before. An 870 on Metro is easy win :P

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#3553 mitu123
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I beat the campaign last night ... Um, I liked it more than MW3s *shrugs*

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You would get eaten alive.:P

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#3554 darktx2005
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I finished the SP last night. I'm definately disappointed. The tank/jet missions weren't fun at all to me and overall I just didn't feel all that immersed. Eventhough it was short, I still remember how intense the MW2 SP was the whole way through for me. Even Black Ops was more intense in my opinion. I can't really put my finger on what I didn't like, but overall I just didn't feel like I was a lot of fun playing through it.

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#3555 mitu123
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I have played over 10 games and no crashes with these new drivers...

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im proboly late to the party here but I saw a vid called shotgun sniper. Are they going to fix that?

gamebreakerz__

It was the same in BC2, and trust me, those vids take it way over the top. It is in no way a good strategy to get kills at all, the videos have just fired a million shots and only played the ones that got kills. Although yeah it is quite unrealistic obviously....

With slug rounds there is nothing unrealistic about sniper shotgun.

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#3557 mitu123
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im proboly late to the party here but I saw a vid called shotgun sniper. Are they going to fix that?

Icarian

It was the same in BC2, and trust me, those vids take it way over the top. It is in no way a good strategy to get kills at all, the videos have just fired a million shots and only played the ones that got kills. Although yeah it is quite unrealistic obviously....

With slug rounds there is nothing unrealistic about sniper shotgun.

If it goes over 200 feet there is.:lol:

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#3558 bleehum
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Turns out it isn't my power supply. Put new one in, tried to play BF3 and same crashing bull****. I'm able to play Skyrim fine, though, and any other steam games.
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#3559 Masculus
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I'm getting really annoyed at this game. Seens like it is the will of the gods that I get all of the sudden insane amounts of rubberbanding. It either lags or crashes.

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[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] It was the same in BC2, and trust me, those vids take it way over the top. It is in no way a good strategy to get kills at all, the videos have just fired a million shots and only played the ones that got kills. Although yeah it is quite unrealistic obviously....mitu123

With slug rounds there is nothing unrealistic about sniper shotgun.

If it goes over 200 feet there is.:lol:

Effective range of a slug round is over 100 meters (over 330 feet). I've watched those videos and I haven't seen them shooting farther than that.

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#3561 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] It was the same in BC2, and trust me, those vids take it way over the top. It is in no way a good strategy to get kills at all, the videos have just fired a million shots and only played the ones that got kills. Although yeah it is quite unrealistic obviously....mitu123

With slug rounds there is nothing unrealistic about sniper shotgun.

If it goes over 200 feet there is.:lol:

video games have a rather bloated sense of spread in representing shotguns. A real life one can use slug rounds and hit targets like a rifle
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#3562 Rockman999
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Anyone else love getting kills with the little sniper drone? So far the most number of kills I've gotten with them is 2 in a match. I just love f***ing with players while I try to run them over with it. :lol:

I beat the campaign last night ... Um, I liked it more than MW3s *shrugs*

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It was alright, I only liked the Dima and Miller's missions but Miller's fate really bummed me out though. :(

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#3563 Alpha-Male22
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RAGE!!

Wrote out some things but Glitchspot lost it!

Very briefly

1) I like shotgun sniping

2) Engineer needs serious nerf in either rocket damage/amount carried and/or, most importantly, damage of carbine weapons. All main Engineer weapons need to be nerfed because right now it's a master of all trades

3) IRNV needs a nerf badly. Way too nooby

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#3564 Alpha-Male22
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BTW, maybe it's just me, but I'm beginning to enjoy even the cluster maps! I think now that most of the damn CoD players are gone, people are beginning to use more teamwork and actually cap flags... I don't know, I hate Metro on CQ but lately I've actually been enjoying it :/
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#3565 Rockman999
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RAGE!!

Wrote out some things but Glitchspot lost it!

Very briefly

1) I like shotgun sniping

2) Engineer needs serious nerf in either rocket damage/amount carried and/or, most importantly, damage of carbine weapons. All main Engineer weapons need to be nerfed because right now it's a master of all trades

3) IRNV needs a nerf badly. Way too nooby

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It already takes 3-4 rockets from the front and 2-3 from the back to take out tanks, why would you want them to be nerfed even more? There's also nothing wrong with the amount carried, I think by default engies carry 4 rockets and 8 using expl spec, that's enough to take out 2 tanks or more if they're lucky before needing a refill.
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^

My problem is how effective they are against infantry when the Engineer ****ought to be out****d when it comes to infantry battle

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#3567 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

With slug rounds there is nothing unrealistic about sniper shotgun.

wis3boi

If it goes over 200 feet there is.:lol:

video games have a rather bloated sense of spread in representing shotguns. A real life one can use slug rounds and hit targets like a rifle

yeah but its not very balanced or fair in a video game for it to happen

fun/balance >>>> realism

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^

My problem is how effective they are against infantry when the Engineer ****ought to be out****d when it comes to infantry battle

Alpha-Male22
What? RPGs do very little damage to infantry unless they are right next to it. I've seen many times where i shot a rocket and hit a few feet away from someone and they shrugged it off like nothing happened.
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#3569 Dante2710
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"B2K maps are same size on pc and console" Ohh snap.
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#3570 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]"B2K maps are same size on pc and console" Ohh snap.

Oman looks horrible. I expect a lot of crying.
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#3571 Dante2710
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Also: -voip on battlelog -no titan mode DLC plans
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]"B2K maps are same size on pc and console" Ohh snap.

Maybe the boundaries are the same but they still have the full map? I know that Oman on the PC has 7 flags while there is only 3 on the consoles.
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]"B2K maps are same size on pc and console" Ohh snap. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Maybe the boundaries are the same but they still have the full map? I know that Oman on the PC has 7 flags while there is only 3 on the consoles.

Consoles also have a 5 flags mode according to the live stream. Some maps do have 7 flags on the PC, just expect them to be right next to each other, like on the vanilla maps.

I will hold my judgement till i get to try them out, but my hype for the B2K DLC is pretty much dead at this point.

I`m also extremely annoyed by the fact that Dice decided to avoid the PC-centric questions, and the ones that they did bother to answer were vague as ****.

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#3574 ActionRemix
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Consoles also have a 5 flags mode according to the live stream.Dante2710
HYPE RESTORED
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#3575 mitu123
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I've been playing more matches on the latest drivers and I haven't even crashed.

Must be my 460s or something.

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#3576 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I've been playing more matches on the latest drivers and I haven't even crashed.

Must be my 460s or something.

mitu123

Must be cos mine crashed like hell and I was getting poorer performance too. But they are good for Skyrim :P

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#3577 BrunoBRS
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this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...
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#3578 mitu123
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this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...BrunoBRS
And why is that?

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#3579 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I've been playing more matches on the latest drivers and I haven't even crashed.

Must be my 460s or something.

seanmcloughlin

Must be cos mine crashed like hell and I was getting poorer performance too. But they are good for Skyrim :P

This is absurd, they need new offical drivers that aren't beta.

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#3580 The_Capitalist
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This game still needs VOIP. When are they going to bring it?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...mitu123

And why is that?

i havent been playing much either... - ive seen about a dozen blatant hackers today (going 127 and 3 on metro with an LMG) - horrible team stacking (entire teams with max level players) - the maps are really starting to irritate me....90% of them were clearly made for 24 players or rush
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#3582 mitu123
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BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

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BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

mitu123

Me too. And the ones where you go from 100% to 0% instantly are still there along with shooting through walls or getting killed in cover. Very annoying

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#3584 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

seanmcloughlin

Me too. And the ones where you go from 100% to 0% instantly are still there along with shooting through walls or getting killed in cover. Very annoying

It was like that today for me.:lol::cry:

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...mitu123

And why is that?

not in the mood i guess. that and i end up ragequitting most of the matches.
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#3586 Ace6301
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BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

mitu123
If you slow down any online FPS (or really any online game) these sort of things become pretty obvious. It's still crappy to deal with but for the most part I think BF3 is probably one of the better games when it comes to crap like that. Certainly better than BFBC2 and Blops at least.
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#3587 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

Ace6301

If you slow down any online FPS (or really any online game) these sort of things become pretty obvious. It's still crappy to deal with but for the most part I think BF3 is probably one of the better games when it comes to crap like that. Certainly better than BFBC2 and Blops at least.

This crap happened to me often today...I should be near 20 kills but only got 11 instead and half the time I shoot 1st in one match. I've seen people turn around and take me out when I shot them in advance.

DICE can never perfect this, and it doesn't make any damn sense, 2012 will be the 10th year since BF1942, and they can't get something like this right when many games like Halo, Killzone, Resistance, Team Fortress and more do.

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#3588 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

Ace6301
If you slow down any online FPS (or really any online game) these sort of things become pretty obvious. It's still crappy to deal with but for the most part I think BF3 is probably one of the better games when it comes to crap like that. Certainly better than BFBC2 and Blops at least.

BF3 is particularly bad though. You have to learn to prefire to really survive in the game now.
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shooting through walls or getting killed in cover.

seanmcloughlin

This could be explained by bullet penetration.

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#3590 DarkGamer007
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This game still needs VOIP. When are they going to bring it?

The_Capitalist

A DICE employee said they would not bring VOIP into the game because "they" were "satisfied" with VOIP in Battlelog only. :|

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#3591 mitu123
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

shooting through walls or getting killed in cover.

Icarian

This could be explained by bullet penetration.

Not every wall breaks, lol. That video I posted shows someone shooting a guy through a solid dumpster.

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#3592 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...BrunoBRS

And why is that?

not in the mood i guess. that and i end up ragequitting most of the matches.

This is why we play with friends.:P

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#3593 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]this thread is still going? i haven't seen it in days. nor have i played BF3...wis3boi

And why is that?

i havent been playing much either... - ive seen about a dozen blatant hackers today (going 127 and 3 on metro with an LMG) - horrible team stacking (entire teams with max level players) - the maps are really starting to irritate me....90% of them were clearly made for 24 players or rush

Not you too Scarlee.:o

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#3594 Dante2710
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This game still needs VOIP. When are they going to bring it?

The_Capitalist
Its not going to happen, they said they are happy with whatever Battlelog has to offer.
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#3595 mitu123
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BF3 is getting a huge update/patch, read this everyone:

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a351971/battlefield-3-to-receive-significant-update-on-pc.html

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[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

shooting through walls or getting killed in cover.

mitu123

This could be explained by bullet penetration.

Not every wall breaks, lol. That video I posted shows someone shooting a guy through a solid dumpster.

While true that in that video's situation bullet wouldn't probably go through solid steel dumpster, but normal walls do break under fire. Assault rifle or machine gun bullet can penetrate most normal walls. Even solid steel could be penetrated with heavy enough armor piercing round with good velocity. Generally 1 inch of solid steel is enough to stop anything less than an anti tank weapon.

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#3597 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"] And why is that?

mitu123

i havent been playing much either... - ive seen about a dozen blatant hackers today (going 127 and 3 on metro with an LMG) - horrible team stacking (entire teams with max level players) - the maps are really starting to irritate me....90% of them were clearly made for 24 players or rush

Not you too Scarlee.:o

i get jack to ragequit with me too :P
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#3598 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

BF3 hit detection problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YWc1wjCW0

That has happened to me before.

mitu123

If you slow down any online FPS (or really any online game) these sort of things become pretty obvious. It's still crappy to deal with but for the most part I think BF3 is probably one of the better games when it comes to crap like that. Certainly better than BFBC2 and Blops at least.

This crap happened to me often today...I should be near 20 kills but only got 11 instead and half the time I shoot 1st in one match. I've seen people turn around and take me out when I shot them in advance.

DICE can never perfect this, and it doesn't make any damn sense, 2012 will be the 10th year since BF1942, and they can't get something like this right when many games like Halo, Killzone, Resistance, Team Fortress and more do.

I can't speak for Halo since I've only ever played it any amount of time on local multi but KZ and Resistance both had pretty crappy hit detection. TF2 goes by local client side so if you hit them on your screen the server counts it as hitting on their side. This seems good but it means you end up some really, really weird situations like face stabs and heavies shooting around corners. TF2 also uses hitscan and large projectile hitboxes and it's melee hitbox system is awful. BF games don't use hitscan like KZ and the hitboxes aren't giant boxes like in TF2 and Resistance. Pick your poison basically.
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#3599 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] If you slow down any online FPS (or really any online game) these sort of things become pretty obvious. It's still crappy to deal with but for the most part I think BF3 is probably one of the better games when it comes to crap like that. Certainly better than BFBC2 and Blops at least.Ace6301

This crap happened to me often today...I should be near 20 kills but only got 11 instead and half the time I shoot 1st in one match. I've seen people turn around and take me out when I shot them in advance.

DICE can never perfect this, and it doesn't make any damn sense, 2012 will be the 10th year since BF1942, and they can't get something like this right when many games like Halo, Killzone, Resistance, Team Fortress and more do.

I can't speak for Halo since I've only ever played it any amount of time on local multi but KZ and Resistance both had pretty crappy hit detection. TF2 goes by local client side so if you hit them on your screen the server counts it as hitting on their side. This seems good but it means you end up some really, really weird situations like face stabs and heavies shooting around corners. TF2 also uses hitscan and large projectile hitboxes and it's melee hitbox system is awful. BF games don't use hitscan like KZ and the hitboxes aren't giant boxes like in TF2 and Resistance. Pick your poison basically.

And yet they are much better than BF(though maybe not TF)...plus I really don't notice any in KZ and Resistance, at least not much of it.

Halo is the king of it.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]"B2K maps are same size on pc and console" Ohh snap. Dante2710

Maybe the boundaries are the same but they still have the full map? I know that Oman on the PC has 7 flags while there is only 3 on the consoles.

Consoles also have a 5 flags mode according to the live stream. Some maps do have 7 flags on the PC, just expect them to be right next to each other, like on the vanilla maps.

I will hold my judgement till i get to try them out, but my hype for the B2K DLC is pretty much dead at this point.

I`m also extremely annoyed by the fact that Dice decided to avoid the PC-centric questions, and the ones that they did bother to answer were vague as ****.

Most of Karkand is as it used to be. The Cement Factory has no flag though so that whole right side of the map is vastly smaller.