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[QUOTE="jamejame"]Yeah, I'd say it was pretty rushed. The end cutscene lasts about 2 minutes, and doesn't wrap much of anything up. I'd conjecture this was a result of meeting a deadline, though I could be wrong. They delayed the game 4 months 'just for the ending' and this is still all we got :P[QUOTE="exiledsnake"] Just rushed? Be glad your expectations were low to begin with.
wis3boi
I think they delayed it for the multiplayer more than anything else
[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]I eagerly await more plotholes :PExtended cut means they didn't change it, it's just more explained and has more too it. That's exactly what I wanted. The fact that it's also free pretty much seals the deal that they made this one for the fans.
wis3boi
Faith, young one. Have faith...
I eagerly await more plotholes :P[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="sune_Gem"]
Extended cut means they didn't change it, it's just more explained and has more too it. That's exactly what I wanted. The fact that it's also free pretty much seals the deal that they made this one for the fans.
sune_Gem
Faith, young one. Have faith...
Hey, you never know :)well ill beat it a second time in the summer i guess. I also I better not have to choose the red color to get an alive sheperd that would be dumb
I'll wait until the DLC comes out and see how people react to it. I have a hunch Bioware has something up their sleeve. EA is in damage control, but thye will do what ever it takes to make lots of money off this.well ill beat it a second time in the summer i guess.
finalfantasy94
please stop posting eminem gifs eminem sucks.[QUOTE="sonic1564"]
wtf
WilliamRLBaker
everyone is entiled to thier opinion. Mine being he doesint suck.
[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]HA!I knew it![QUOTE="csftar"]
"The Extended Cut DLC is free up to 12th April 2014, when the offer expires."
Well, at least they give time...
wis3boi
EA's greed has no bounds!
At least it's free to start off.....still a dick move though. Typical EA if anyone doesn't download the DLC within a year they're stupid.They planned this all along except they were hoping to charge for it but now it sorta HAS to be free. Bread_or_DecideThis... Probably did some market research and noticed that people would never buy products from them again if they would take money for it.
Extended cut?
Summer?
Well I guess there goes indoctrination theory. Not that I was rooting for it.
And at least it is free which was what I figured for the only winning situation for Bioware.
But I am still cautious. Given some highly questionable writing from Bioware lately, I am hoping they aren't just going to make it even worse by trying to fill plot holes with really stupid explanations.
Edit: Seriously though, Summer? I have to wait 3 more months to get this fixed?
Extended cut?
Summer?
Well I guess there goes indoctrination theory. Not that I was rooting for it.
And at least it is free which was what I figured for the only winning situation for Bioware.
But I am still cautious. Given some highly questionable writing from Bioware lately, I am hoping they aren't just going to make it even worse by trying to fill plot holes with really stupid explanations.
Edit: Seriously though, Summer? I have to wait 3 more months to get this fixed?
Vaasman
If this wasn't free, the fans would have gone absolutely ballistic.
EA may be horrible, but they're not that stupid.
The denial is still strong on the bioware forum! "What I find funny are the IT haters/whiners who have been actively trying to debunk our great theory so that they can have new endings have basically had a slap to the face ( they are not changing the current first part of the ending. You know the dreamlike indoctrination attempt) while our hopes for the indoctrination theory are still going strong. " "I'll ask a 3rd time. Where in the article does it say the indoctrination theory I not true? " "The DLC doesn't disprove indoctrination theory. If they seek clarification-- it could mean they might insert more scenes into the game to make indoctrination more obvious. The game doesn't necessarily have to take off when Shepard is revived in London. "Extended cut?
Summer?
Well I guess there goes indoctrination theory. Not that I was rooting for it.
And at least it is free which was what I figured for the only winning situation for Bioware.
But I am still cautious. Given some highly questionable writing from Bioware lately, I am hoping they aren't just going to make it even worse by trying to fill plot holes with really stupid explanations.
Edit: Seriously though, Summer? I have to wait 3 more months to get this fixed?
Vaasman
Indoctrination Theorists have already dissected almost every part of the disc in search of evidence for their theory. If they found it, it would be quite amusing.wonder how people would react if the DLC was a 10k unlock for cinematics already on the disc
hiryu3
01- Explain how the victory fleet in sol system does not just starve to death? ( Earth can not support all that with out relays )
02- Explain teleporting crewmates and coward joker? ( Space magic is no answer )
03- Explain Super Man Shepard ? ( Survive ending )
04- Explain Retarded circular logic loops? ( Organics created synthetics ( Reapers ) to kill organics to prevent synthetics from killing organics )
05- Explain how Normandy got from earth to the far side of the solar system char relay in record time ?
06- Explain why reaper A.I. looks like Vent Boy? ( So A.I.'s are psychic now? )
07- Explain why harbinger lets shepard go when it knows he is still alive? ( Marauder shields )
08- Explain what in gods name Sovereign was doing in the first Mass Effect if his boss was the citadel? ( Why does ventboy not just open up the relay? )
09- Explain the point of the Collectors in ME2 rushing to build just 1 human reaper? ( They just end up swarming the galaxy 6? months later anyway )
10- Explain Why A.I. are so "Evil" when Ventboy is helping us? ( hes an A.I. ) When geth and Edi are helping us? ( I thought Edi liked joker..... )
11- Explain why a random cyborg (shepard) with less tech than a reaper or even cerberus trooper ( Kai Leng ) has the power to ... space magic ?
12- Explain why Dark energy was present in ME1 , ME2 and is now absent in ME3 ?
13- Explain how hacket can contact shepard after all his gear is blow to hell? ( At the start of the game you needed a radio from a downed ship to contact the normandy )
14- Explain how Casey Hudson sleeps at night?
15- Explain why reapers can just jack the citadel anytime they want off screen with no problems ? ( Whats stopping them from doing this at onset , logic? )
16- Explain why "TIM" is weaker than a average cerberus trooper even after all the reaper upgrades ? ( Can't even stop a half dead shepard without his squad )
17- Explain how you can ruin a 100 hour trilogy in just 5 mins?
18- Explain why is shepard thinking of Liara , when i was with tali ?
19- Explain how relay explosions do not go super nova? ( Was Arrival DLC a lie? )
20- Explain who the heck is stargazer ( Did joker sleep with my Love interest? )
21- Explain how joker managed to find a uncharted garden world ( Rare ) near sol system, in about 30 seconds while fleeing explosions ?
22- Explain whats the point of citadel defence force ? ( they all die ... offscreen anyway no matter what you do )
23- Explain how the galaxy is supposed to function without the relays? ( Guy from ME1 says galactic travel would be impossible without them )
24- Explain why players who skip through just ME3 , get the same ending as a player who did all 3 games with side quests + DLC ?
25- Explain how a FMV photo-shopped 3 times = 16 different endings?
26- Explain why shepard is such a push over vs ventboy? ( even renegade shepard is just like "whatever you say vent boy , ill jump into this beam of light no prob")
27- Explain why the reapers leave a teleporter open to their leader? ( weak spot ) why not just keep it closed and win by default?
28- Explain the point again why the citadel has to be moved to earth? ( Why not just moved it to dark space out of reach , it's like they wanted to lose )
29- Explain why my gun has unlimited ammo? ( space bullets? )
30- Explain why their is no End boss fight when ME1 and ME2 had them ?
31- Explain why the trailer to the game looks 100x better then the ending FMV?
32- Explain what happened to my squad? ( the 10+ guys who never make it to the normandy )
33- Explain what happens to all the alien races and earth in the immediate aftermath of the ending? ( 1000000+ years later "my sweet" does not count)
So Bio-Ware can you answer all those questions in this "Extended Cut". Or will it just be the same old FMV but in pink with benny hill music playing? If you ask me , you guys would be better off redoing the whole ending. But what do i know , im just a fan who follows logic and lore.
29- Explain why my gun has unlimited ammo? ( space bullets? )
Vambran
This was explained in ME1. Mass effect tech allowed ultra-high spacial compression of matter, allowing for an extremely high amount of bullets in a gun. The limiting factor in gunfiring is the generated heat, which is why bullet clips are called "thermal clips", they are coolant rods, they don't contain actual bullets.
[QUOTE="Vambran"]
29- Explain why my gun has unlimited ammo? ( space bullets? )
N30F3N1X
This was explained in ME1. Mass effect tech allowed ultra-high spacial compression of matter, allowing for an extremely high amount of bullets in a gun. The limiting factor in gunfiring is the generated heat, which is why bullet clips are called "thermal clips", they are coolant rods, they don't contain actual bullets.
You can fire that gun for hours non stop and it never "overheats" it's space magic i tell you.
[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]
[QUOTE="Vambran"]
29- Explain why my gun has unlimited ammo? ( space bullets? )
Vambran
This was explained in ME1. Mass effect tech allowed ultra-high spacial compression of matter, allowing for an extremely high amount of bullets in a gun. The limiting factor in gunfiring is the generated heat, which is why bullet clips are called "thermal clips", they are coolant rods, they don't contain actual bullets.
You can fire that gun for hours non stop and it never "overheats" it's space magic i tell you.
That was the best part of ME1 why would you question it. :( I loved that I could upgrade my gun's cooling enough to fire near endlessly.I don't really think it's unreasonable. I mean if I leave my computer running for days, it doesn't overheat and die, and this game is 170 years in the future, so new and awesome cooling doesn't seem too ridiculous. Especially considering the other bits of space magic they get away with because of element zero.
and they are fixing their crap ending as well..... lets see, you want Geralt with Triss, Geralt with Roche and Triss, or Geralt with Iorveth and Triss Hell, TW2 rsuhed their entire endgame including Act III.The game is fkin terrible. Go play The Witcher 2 noobs.
Eddie-Vedder
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]and they are fixing their crap ending as well..... lets see, you want Geralt with Triss, Geralt with Roche and Triss, or Geralt with Iorveth and Triss Hell, TW2 rsuhed their entire endgame including Act III.The game is fkin terrible. Go play The Witcher 2 noobs.
texasgoldrush
I've been wondering, since you've obviously read the leaked script before... and you've been hyping the hell out of Mass Effect 3 in its pre-release days, the question is obvious... Was the leak different from final versionor didn't you just see this coming? Or did you hope that the leaked script was not finished and that they would fix most of these issues by the time the game will be released?
It'll still be sh1t. It just won't be a kick in the nuts. 20 bucks on we still hear people say indoctrination theory.Very interested to see how this works out. If Bioware does this right, Mass Effect 3 could go from having one of the worst endings ever to... Probably just a mediocre one :P
At least it's free!skinny_man_69
01- Explain how the victory fleet in sol system does not just starve to death? ( Earth can not support all that with out relays )
02- Explain teleporting crewmates and coward joker? ( Space magic is no answer )
03- Explain Super Man Shepard ? ( Survive ending )
04- Explain Retarded circular logic loops? ( Organics created synthetics ( Reapers ) to kill organics to prevent synthetics from killing organics )
05- Explain how Normandy got from earth to the far side of the solar system char relay in record time ?
06- Explain why reaper A.I. looks like Vent Boy? ( So A.I.'s are psychic now? )
07- Explain why harbinger lets shepard go when it knows he is still alive? ( Marauder shields )
08- Explain what in gods name Sovereign was doing in the first Mass Effect if his boss was the citadel? ( Why does ventboy not just open up the relay? )
09- Explain the point of the Collectors in ME2 rushing to build just 1 human reaper? ( They just end up swarming the galaxy 6? months later anyway )
10- Explain Why A.I. are so "Evil" when Ventboy is helping us? ( hes an A.I. ) When geth and Edi are helping us? ( I thought Edi liked joker..... )
11- Explain why a random cyborg (shepard) with less tech than a reaper or even cerberus trooper ( Kai Leng ) has the power to ... space magic ?
12- Explain why Dark energy was present in ME1 , ME2 and is now absent in ME3 ?
13- Explain how hacket can contact shepard after all his gear is blow to hell? ( At the start of the game you needed a radio from a downed ship to contact the normandy )
14- Explain how Casey Hudson sleeps at night?
15- Explain why reapers can just jack the citadel anytime they want off screen with no problems ? ( Whats stopping them from doing this at onset , logic? )
16- Explain why "TIM" is weaker than a average cerberus trooper even after all the reaper upgrades ? ( Can't even stop a half dead shepard without his squad )
17- Explain how you can ruin a 100 hour trilogy in just 5 mins?
18- Explain why is shepard thinking of Liara , when i was with tali ?
19- Explain how relay explosions do not go super nova? ( Was Arrival DLC a lie? )
20- Explain who the heck is stargazer ( Did joker sleep with my Love interest? )
21- Explain how joker managed to find a uncharted garden world ( Rare ) near sol system, in about 30 seconds while fleeing explosions ?
22- Explain whats the point of citadel defence force ? ( they all die ... offscreen anyway no matter what you do )
23- Explain how the galaxy is supposed to function without the relays? ( Guy from ME1 says galactic travel would be impossible without them )
24- Explain why players who skip through just ME3 , get the same ending as a player who did all 3 games with side quests + DLC ?
25- Explain how a FMV photo-shopped 3 times = 16 different endings?
26- Explain why shepard is such a push over vs ventboy? ( even renegade shepard is just like "whatever you say vent boy , ill jump into this beam of light no prob")
27- Explain why the reapers leave a teleporter open to their leader? ( weak spot ) why not just keep it closed and win by default?
28- Explain the point again why the citadel has to be moved to earth? ( Why not just moved it to dark space out of reach , it's like they wanted to lose )
29- Explain why my gun has unlimited ammo? ( space bullets? )
30- Explain why their is no End boss fight when ME1 and ME2 had them ?
31- Explain why the trailer to the game looks 100x better then the ending FMV?
32- Explain what happened to my squad? ( the 10+ guys who never make it to the normandy )
33- Explain what happens to all the alien races and earth in the immediate aftermath of the ending? ( 1000000+ years later "my sweet" does not count)
So Bio-Ware can you answer all those questions in this "Extended Cut". Or will it just be the same old FMV but in pink with benny hill music playing? If you ask me , you guys would be better off redoing the whole ending. But what do i know , im just a fan who follows logic and lore.
Vambran
01. - Why is this an issue regarding the ending ? So what if they are stranded, it's like saying :" Ermm, BioWare, plot hole... how the hell are we supposed to kill the reaper on Tuchanka if Kalros doesn't want to kill him."
02. - Indoctrination theory. There are just too many details to ignore. The rachni queen speaking of oily shadows and the growl heard at the beginning ( In the books, this signalizes that an indoctrination attempt has failed), when your conversation with the child (Harbinger) is interrupted by Anderson.
03. - Look at 02. Also, the rubble is clearly London, more support for the theory.
04. - Ah, but the reapers don't kill organics. Well, they do, but, they harvest the DNA of a species and they put it in a repear shell, thus making it next to immortal. That's the entire point of it. Organics would be killed by their creations, but, before their creations could kill them, the organics are immortalized by becomming repears, thus making way for new civilizations.
05. - I'm sure I know what you mean.
06. - No, but reapers are.
07. - Ind. theory.
08. - I scarcely remember ME1, but I'm sure there is a reason. But, like I said, Ind. theory.
09. - Obviously, the reapers consider humanity the biggest threat to the cycle, so they just wanted to get the human reaper over with.
10. - The entire point of AI vs VI is that AI are completely aware and do what they want, your question is like saying :" Why are humans evil ?" Cause they can.
11. - Ind. theory.
12. - Care to clarify ?
13. - Ind. theory.
14. - Oh please.
15. - Cerberus took control of the citadel and moved it along with the reapers.
16. - He is old, duh. But, seriously, Ind. theory.
17. - ...
18. - I also didn't quite get this one, when we saw Joker, and then Anderson I thought we were gonna see the whole crew, but Liara appeared. Perhaps you talked to her before the battle and shared her memory ?
19. - I don't think it should be considered an explosion, more like a visible signal.
20. - The new civilization.
21. - Now you are just being desperate. For all we know synthesis makes everything pretty :P
22. - Uhmm... to defend the citadel ? Also they were a major part of the fleet against the reapers.
23. - Same as 1, it's just a development of the story, I seriously don't get complaints like this. Oh why did Frodo throw the one ring in Mt. Doom, where are orcs supposed to live now that Mordor is destroyed.
24. - Ending isn't all that matters, your choices have consequences. What did you expect, everyone that you saved standing right of you, and everyone that you killed standing left of you as an ending ?
25. - ...
26. - Ind. theory.
27. - If you are refering to the beam Shepard uses to get to the citadel, it's for transportation of corpses for easier harvesting. Also, Ind. theory has more on this.
28. - They obviously wanted easier harvesting, and for all we know the teleport beam in London only works at a certain distance.
29. - All guns have unlimited ammo. Have you played ME ? Also, ind. theory. Also, gameplay purposes, imagine having 4 bullets, one for each husk and the marauder. People miss, I know I did, since I spent most of the game charging and then doing blast nova :P
30. - Seriously ?
31. - Wow, now you really are desperate.
32. - If you did synthesis, you know what happened. If you failed they died.
33. - They die.
Hope you are happy.
[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]im sure there is a catch. there has to be one This. The game has been published by EA.Anything is possible. EA has already given out a good amount of free content. Its not that suprising really. They know that just the ending alone has caused massive backlash, charging their customers would have been a HUGE mistake.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I don't think they wanted any backlash from charging for non-gameplay epilogue scenes... that wouldn't hold over well, I think. Afterall, they never charged for that "comic" they released.
call_of_duty_10
It'll still be sh1t. It just won't be a kick in the nuts. 20 bucks on we still hear people say indoctrination theory. I'm not even sure why people are so determined to prove that theory is true. Even if it was, it doesn't stop the ending from being the abrupt and disappointing mess it was.[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]
Very interested to see how this works out. If Bioware does this right, Mass Effect 3 could go from having one of the worst endings ever to... Probably just a mediocre one :P
At least it's free!jg4xchamp
I'm on my 3rd playthrough. It's nice to see that Bioware is doing extra work to make things right with their fans. Kudos to them.
and now they are raging over this at BSN. I swear Bioware has the worst fans.CanYouDiglt
If they actually took their time to give a proper ending to the story instead of filling the game with LGBT activist material, cheese and other melodramatic crap that any sane person wouldn't expect in an amateur soap opera they wouldn't have to deal with such an outrage.
01- Explain how the victory fleet in sol system does not just starve to death? ( Earth can not support all that with out relays )
02- Explain teleporting crewmates and coward joker? ( Space magic is no answer )
03- Explain Super Man Shepard ? ( Survive ending )
06- Explain why reaper A.I. looks like Vent Boy? ( So A.I.'s are psychic now? )
08- Explain what in gods name Sovereign was doing in the first Mass Effect if his boss was the citadel? ( Why does ventboy not just open up the relay? )
16- Explain why "TIM" is weaker than a average cerberus trooper even after all the reaper upgrades ? ( Can't even stop a half dead shepard without his squad )
19- Explain how relay explosions do not go super nova? ( Was Arrival DLC a lie? )
22- Explain whats the point of citadel defence force ? ( they all die ... offscreen anyway no matter what you do )
23- Explain how the galaxy is supposed to function without the relays? ( Guy from ME1 says galactic travel would be impossible without them )
26- Explain why shepard is such a push over vs ventboy? ( even renegade shepard is just like "whatever you say vent boy , ill jump into this beam of light no prob")
32- Explain what happened to my squad? ( the 10+ guys who never make it to the normandy )
33- Explain what happens to all the alien races and earth in the immediate aftermath of the ending? ( 1000000+ years later "my sweet" does not count)
Vambran
points that should (and most likely will be) addressed
04- Explain Retarded circular logic loops? ( Organics created synthetics ( Reapers ) to kill organics to prevent synthetics from killing organics )
09- Explain the point of the Collectors in ME2 rushing to build just 1 human reaper? ( They just end up swarming the galaxy 6? months later anyway )
10- Explain Why A.I. are so "Evil" when Ventboy is helping us? ( hes an A.I. ) When geth and Edi are helping us? ( I thought Edi liked joker..... )
13- Explain how hacket can contact shepard after all his gear is blow to hell? ( At the start of the game you needed a radio from a downed ship to contact the normandy )
15- Explain why reapers can just jack the citadel anytime they want off screen with no problems ? ( Whats stopping them from doing this at onset , logic? )
28- Explain the point again why the citadel has to be moved to earth? ( Why not just moved it to dark space out of reach , it's like they wanted to lose )Vambran
questions I think I can answer
07- Explain why harbinger lets shepard go when it knows he is still alive? ( Marauder shields )
11- Explain why a random cyborg (shepard) with less tech than a reaper or even cerberus trooper ( Kai Leng ) has the power to ... space magic ?
12- Explain why Dark energy was present in ME1 , ME2 and is now absent in ME3 ?
20- Explain who the heck is stargazer ( Did joker sleep with my Love interest? )
27- Explain why the reapers leave a teleporter open to their leader? ( weak spot ) why not just keep it closed and win by default?Vambran
those i don't understand
[QUOTE="Vambran"]
You can fire that gun for hours non stop and it never "overheats" it's space magic i tell you.
N30F3N1X
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