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I thought this was already confirmed a week ago? :? Also, why don't you throw a towel or tape over your kinect if you're afraid of privacy?! You guys realize your laptops, smartphones, tablets all have cameras on them?!-RocBoys9489-
or better yet use your PC baby blanket, pathetic shill
- goes back to hiding behind the PC in 3,2,1..
[QUOTE="voicereason"][QUOTE="edidili"]Exactly some companys like Sony actually want to PUT out a great product thats worth it, that people will love. Thats the PS4 - 50% more powerful 100$ cheaper.... Sony came up with that on their own Sony made the console developer freindly Sony made the PS4 with the gamer in mind from the start Sony and their stellar first parties put these measures in and had these palns in place Sony IS AHEAD with the PS4 because of WHAT THEY DID Mean while, Microsoft pushed anti consumer policies in the first place amd ONLY backed down because we fought back Sony was with gamers from the start..the are genuine Microsoft is fake And mean while Microsofr over charges for an under powered console And mean while Microsoft rehashed the same old Gears/Halo/Fprza sequels year in and year out In this year alone The PS3 will have had 3 new IPs, one of which(Last of Us) is the greatest game of this gen and one of the finest games of all time The fact people like you are even trying to say they are alike or can be compared is INSANITY Sony are like saints compared to Microsoft And Sony's actions PROVE they are more for the gamer then any one else Sony are woah, there boy Yes Ms screwed up and any gaming consumer would judge the ps4 to be the better purchase, but Sony are not some benevolent gaming god they are as every other company is self interested, they are looking to shift units by exploiting the quite frankly startling inept MS pr surrounding the XBONE, Sony tried the same last gen, people will buy PS3 because its playstation was basically the idea, as result they basically went from being dominant to playing catch up for 80% of this last gen, and MS exploited Sony's failures, truth is Sony played a blinder this E3 MS went into E3 with the core western gaming market as the dominant player they thought Sony wouldn't have the funds to bank roll a cheaper launch, and would basically have to follow were MS leads, MS got it wrong, MS thought the PS4 will be just like the XBONE and people will adopt XBONE because people are invested in Live, unfortunately for MS, Sony are taking the hit at launch to establish a larger user base quicker which means more software sales long term which is where the money is. MS got it wrong on hardware, they got it wrong on price and they got it wrong on policy (although they have changed this now). 1. NOTHING Sony did with the PS3 COMPARES to what Microsoft is doing with the xbone You also forgot that the PS3 at 600$ still had much greater value then the 360 PS3 had blue ray, cell, wifi, hard drive etc.....and it was all there for 600$ The 360 had worse tech and ended up costing MORE in the long run(100$ wifi, 100$ hard drive, xbox live fees) Even back then Microsoft was trying to rip consumers off while the PS3 had great value... The PS3 still ended up winning the HD war this gen... Microsoft has yet to EVER win a gen YET they came out with the xbone more cocky and arrogant then Sony ever was or had been Again that speaks to Microsoft's ineptness and level of shady-the fact they were also trying to force anti-consumer policies so hard. When has Sony ever done anything like that! They never have! 2. The xbone being 100$ more while being MUCH less powerful is CRIMINAL.....MUCH WORSE then a more powerful PS3 costing more then a 360, when in fact the 360 cost more in the long run anyway. Again Sony is offering a console with even more value, MORE THEN ever this time with the PS4 though. Its things like that that PROVE Sony is good for gamers. Sony is doing everything RIGHT with the PS4. Sony has been planning for it for years WITH the gamer in mind. The PS4 is dominating because of what Sony is doing bottom line Microsoft being Microsoft HAS ONLY led to their fanboys switching to the Playstation BUT everyone else has been with playstation and will stick with playstation because they know Sony cares about gamers. 3. I also like how you say....."buuuu buuuuuuu all companys are like that. Sony too" So sick of that ridiculous damage control, and it always only comes from xbots. NOT ALL companys are the same. Some ARE BETTER then others Sony is obviously MUCH BETTER and much more consumer friendly then Microsoft is. That cant be debated I said that Sony are a bunch of saints IN COMPARISON to Microsoft. Keyword....IN COMPARISON TO I also listed many reasons why Sony is better Sony's ACTIONS PROVE they are more for the gamer then anyone else No AMOUNT of xbot damage control can change that "Bu buuuuu all companys are the exact same" GTFO with that pathetic xbot shill talking point/damage controlThat's called business. Sony is not doing it out of their kind heart, they're doing it to sell more PS4. The more people like it the more it will sell and Sony is doing just that. Capitalizing on the errors of MS to sell more PS4.
sonny2dap
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lemmings are pathetic, posting rumors as if they were facts
[QUOTE="voicereason"]Exactly, just as I said....some companys like Sony actually want to PUT out a great product thats worth it, that people will love. edidili
And that's what I said but you were against it. Every company wants to make money. They have differences in the politics they implement for that goal. In the case of Sony, they think having less limitations than Xbox would help them sell more PS and make more money. This is a strategy.
Companies are not people, they don't act based on emotions or out of a kind heart. They carefully choose which strategy will make the most money for them and the customer gets to decide which one is best for him.
You seem to not be able to comprehend the point Sony made sure the PS4 was 50% more powerful 100$ cheaper.... Sony came up with that on their own Sony made the console developer freindly on their own Sony made the PS4 with the gamer in mind from the start Sony and their stellar first parties put these measures in and had these palns in place... Sony IS dominating with the PS4 because of WHAT THEY DID and THEY DID it for the gamer in mind Mean while, Microsoft pushed anti consumer policies hard and ONLY backed down because we fought back Sony was with gamers from the start..they are genuine...Sony and their stellar first parties are gamers themselfes amd get gaming Microsoft is fake and doesnt get gaming at all And mean while Microsoft over charges for an under powered console in the xbone And mean while Microsoft rehashes the same old boring repetitive Gears/Halo/Forza sequels year in and year out In this year alone the PS3 will have had 3 new IPs, one of which(Last of Us) is the greatest game of this gen and one of the finest games of all time The fact people like you are even trying to say they are alike or can be compared is INSANITY Sony are like saints compared to Microsoft And Sony's actions PROVE they are more for the gamer then any one else F@ck Microsoft in fact lol
Lems don't want kinect in their bundle confirmed
[QUOTE="trugs26"][QUOTE="voicereason"] Microsoft wants to extort as much profit from consumers as possible Thats what it was about It has NOTHING to do with them caring or listening to feedback They are listening to the money signs of anything lol Microsoft was already willing to go that far with their anti consumer ways. Whats to stop them from trying again I WILL NEVER trust Microsoft. MANY PEOPLE will NEVER forget the way Microsoft tried to r@pe consumers....and where Microsoft onky backed off at the last minute BECAUSE WE were FIGHTING and scratching them back Sony IS like our hero wgo then came in and helped us to saftey from Microsoftvoicereason
I'll make this concise:
Reading between all of your assumptions about me being some kind of Microsoft drone, these are the points you made:
1. Microsoft did this for money.
2. They stopped because consumers didn't like what they were doing.
3. PS4 had more preorders, suggesting again, that consumers didn't like what Microsoft were doing.
4. Move was an idea by Sony.
5. Sony copied no one.
6. Move support still there.
7. Something about sucking Sony's something or other.
8. Microsoft stopped supporting core games.
My response:
1. Obviously. Meet consumer demands -> ??? -> PROFIT!
2. Again, obviously.
3. Again, obviously.
Regarding these three points, and as you put it, they stopped "because we fought back", ie they listened to consumers. Would you rather them not listen? Continue to do things that consumers don't want? They did what people asked for, and yet here you are trying to spin it into something negative. This is called fanboyism.
4. Not my point, my point is they implemented an idea after years of success from another company, attempting to emulate this success. In other words, and if I didn't make this clear enough for you, THEY WANT MONEY.
5. Everyone copies everyone. Don't be such a fool. Accept this fact and move on. As the saying goes, "standing on the shoulders of giants". Saying otherwise just makes you look like a fanboy.
6. It's really low, and it would be really high if the move was successful. This is the point. If people don't pay, they don't support. Just like Microsoft changing their strategy, no one was paying. In the end, they want money, and to do this, it comes down to the consumer.
7. Okay...
8. What is your point? Do you want to have "Core Gamer" as your title or something? To show how you play core games that somehow matter more than other games?
For having a idea but seeing their fans wanted something else so they changed? Face it you are a angry Sony fanboy that just wants to hate anythign Microsoft.[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]
Microsoft are a bunch of liars liars pants on fires. and it still OVER PRICE
resevl4rlz
how am i a sony fanboy when i own all 3 systems? maybe you are the fanboyÂ
He isif this turns out true ill become more leaning toward x1 than ps4. they r doing wat people asked them to do and im more interested in x1 exclusive and prefer twiter over ustream.
will be getting one console only along side the wiiu next gen and wont be getting it until end of 2014 or beginning of 2015 since i will be playing dark souls 2 and wont hav time nor interest in anything else. i will see the sales and will get the system with the larger online community.
ms should release a 399 dollar kinect less console
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