Bungie or Naughty Dog : Which one is better? (overall)

If Halo was the only thing Bungie had ever made that would be one thing,however,Bungie did a ton of classics before Halo and those games tip the balance in their favor.

I have chosen Naughty Dog, they make a new IP every generation and they generally have great success in doing so, Crash Bandicoot is a classic, Jak and Daxter were also regarded and one of the best platform games of last generation and the Uncharted series wins awards left right and centre.

Bungie have only made halo and it will be interesting to see what they can acehive with a game that doesn't have Halo' stamped on the front and all the hype it comes with to help them.

Bungie have only made halo

mrfrosty151986

Really? My word...

>FPS series that changed online gaming forever

>Dude Raider

>IDK lol

>FPS series that changed online gaming forever

ClassicRockFTW

At the end of the day, I never really liked shooters or overly cinematic games that clearly don't care enough about the gameplay. So Bungie and the Uncharted series get eliminated right off the bat. That leaves me with Jak and Crash. Those games are pretty decent. In the end Naughty Dog wins this for their platformers personally.

If I wasn't biased against shooters, I'd have to go with Bungie because their focus has always remained on some of the most important things in gaming: smooth, reliable, quality gameplay. I can't say Naughty Dog kept the same focus.

I may not love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog, they've had three very successful franchises, and Bungie has what... Halo??( in terms of overwhelmingly successful games, I know they have made other games)layton2012

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

jondoe3311

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Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

mrfrosty151986

Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

jondoe3311

[QUOTE="layton2012"]I may not love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog, they've had three very successful franchises, and Bungie has what... Halo??( in terms of overwhelmingly successful games, I know they have made other games)MrYaotubo

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

[QUOTE="jondoe3311"]

Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

mrfrosty151986

That's unfair. Not even Naughty Dog has done that

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"]I may not love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog, they've had three very successful franchises, and Bungie has what... Halo??( in terms of overwhelmingly successful games, I know they have made other games)layton2012

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

is this a joke ?

Bungie

naughty dog cause of the great franchises that they have made. crash, jak, and uncharted

I'd give Naughty Dog the slight edge. Halo and Myst are epic franchises, but so were/are Jak & Daxter, Crash Bandicoot, and Uncharted.

[QUOTE="layton2012"]I may not love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog, they've had three very successful franchises, and Bungie has what... Halo??( in terms of overwhelmingly successful games, I know they have made other games)MrYaotubo

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="jondoe3311"]

Bungie is objectively better. When Naughty Dog gets a 97 rted game on metacritics they may be Bungie's equal

Pikminmaniac

That's unfair. Not even Naughty Dog has done that

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"]I may not love Uncharted, but Naughty Dog, they've had three very successful franchises, and Bungie has what... Halo??( in terms of overwhelmingly successful games, I know they have made other games)locopatho

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

Naughty God by a mile, more awards, more top tier IP's, better graphics and producation values...

Bungie is a one hit wonder. And even with all the money and time in the world they can't make good graphics.

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[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"] When Bungie can pull off 3 successful, new and original IP's then they may be Naghty Dogs equal.mrfrosty151986

That's unfair. Not even Naughty Dog has done that

You said 3 new and original IPs... A New IP isn't automatically original.

Uncharted is particularily unoriginal

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"] When Bungie can pull off 3 successful, new and original IP's then they may be Naghty Dogs equal.mrfrosty151986

That's unfair. Not even Naughty Dog has done that

Bungie is has one SOLID series called Halo..... caseypayne69

Naughty God by a mile, more awards, more top tier IP's, better graphics and producation values...

Bungie is a one hit wonder. And even with all the money and time in the world they can't make good graphics.

Eddie-Vedder

Bungie has been with really this one series for the past decade, which is nothing wrong with that but Gotta say ND has been switching up it's style (for better or worse) during the same time period.

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Bungie have only made halo

MrYaotubo

Really? My word...

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Oooo, tough question. Here's an equally tough question -- Who makes better movies, Steven Spielberg or Uwe Boll?

How is Naughty Dog even worth considering? Bungie is an Everest of importance to Naughty Dog's pebble of insignificance. megaspiderweb09

Here is an example of someone who places personal interest in judging the developers as i mentioned before.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Oooo, tough question. Here's an equally tough question -- Who makes better movies, Steven Spielberg or Uwe Boll?

How is Naughty Dog even worth considering? Bungie is an Everest of importance to Naughty Dog's pebble of insignificance. DarkLink77

Here is an example of someone who places personal interest in judging the developers as i mentioned before.

ND have a better CV so they get my vote

I prefer Naughty Dog, mainly because I'm not fond of FPS.rjdofu

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Bungie.

Michael0134567

OT but god I love Asian women.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

Here is an example of someone who places personal interest in judging the developers as i mentioned before.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

Bungie have only made halo

Arach666

Really? My word...

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I hate to agree with him because of the way he worded it, but he's right. From a purely objective standpoint, Bungie has produced more games that have significantly impacted the industry than Naughty Dog has. Marathon revolutionized the FPS, Myth revolutionized the RTS, and Halo revolutionized the FPS again. Naughty Dog has produced some excellent games, but nothing game-changing. Their strength lies in execution (at least this gen), but even then, they're a startlingly inconsistent studio and always have been.DarkLink77

Ok, I give you that Marathon one, I'm not interested enough to do research about FPS, and to me Wolfenstein 3D & Doom are the two that revolutionize the genre the most.

About Myth inventing RTT genre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_real-time_tactics_video_games

Yes Naughty Dog was not consistant, but that's not my point.

If by being consistent you mean remain on the same level, then that didn't happen to Halo franchise either, the highest Halo game on MC was Combat Evolve and after every installment, the score drop from 97 > 91 (we're talking about franchise as a whole) if you didn't count the expand pack call ODST (83). But hey at least it's consistently dropping right?

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rjdofu

Ok, I give you that Marathon one, I'm not interested enough to do research about FPS, and to me Wolfenstein 3D & Doom are the two that revolutionize the genre the most.

About Myth inventing RTT genre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_real-time_tactics_video_games

Yes Naughty Dog was not consistant, but that's not my point.

If by being consistent you mean remain on the same level, then that didn't happen to Halo franchise either, the highest Halo game on MC was Combat Evolve and after every installment, the score drop from 97 > 91 (we're talking about franchise as a whole) if you didn't count the expand pack call ODST (83). But hey at least it's consistently dropping right?

I skimmed through the games you listed, and none of them had the impact on the RTT genre that Myth did. Myth changed the way people made RTT games. That is a fact.

Okay, it dropped by a combined total MetaScore of 6 over ten years and 4 games (I'm not counting ODST because expansions always score lower, no matter what franchise they belong to). That's ridiculously impressive considering that

1. Most video game series go down with the odd title that may go up, regardless of that fact that most sequels are better than their predecessors.

2. That happened over the course of ten years, so we're factoring in franchise fatigue and troll reviews (see: Reach) and the drops from game to game, were,at most, 3 points. The drop from CE to 2 was 2 points, and the drop from 2 to 3 was 1.

3. Halo: CE has a MetaScore of 97. You can count the games with a MetaScore as high or higher on two hands. The only place you can go at that point is down. Not even Super Mario Galaxy 2 could outscore SMG despite being a better game in every single way.

BunGodie

I guess Naughty Dog cause they have a few good franchises as to Bungies one good franchise.

But Destiny looks really good and could be the start of another great franchise.

I guess Naughty Dog cause they have a few good franchises as to Bungies one good franchise.

But Destiny looks really good and could be the start of another great franchise.

PhazonBlazer

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I guess Naughty Dog cause they have a few good franchises as to Bungies one good franchise.

But Destiny looks really good and could be the start of another great franchise.

DarkLink77

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[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

I guess Naughty Dog cause they have a few good franchises as to Bungies one good franchise.

But Destiny looks really good and could be the start of another great franchise.

mrfrosty151986

Honestly, no one gave a crap about ND before UC.

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[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

I guess Naughty Dog cause they have a few good franchises as to Bungies one good franchise.

But Destiny looks really good and could be the start of another great franchise.

mrfrosty151986

[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The sheer amount of ignorance on this board regarding one of the most well-respected developers in this industry is astounding, especially considering it only takes a Google search or spending the time to actually read the thread to clear it up.

TheEpicGoat

Honestly, no one gave a crap about ND before UC.

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] Yes,they made the Myth series with AAA scores here on GS and on metacritic (and great sales) and also made one of the most revolutionary FPS series of all time,Marathon.

And in the real world,the only "overwhelmingly" sucessful franchise that ND did was Uncharted,and as far as the sucess part goes,it doesnt even come close to Halo. In fact,at least one of the Myth games sold over 4 million copies,wich kinda puts it o0n the level of an uncharted game sales wise.

MrYaotubo

Ok DarkLink, I was wrong about Bungie. I had know idea that Marathon was such an influence on first-person shooters.