Bungie or Naughty Dog : Which one is better? (overall)

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]the poll prove that people don't like a One Dimension developersDarkLink77

*oh... that's you:lol:

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I didn't have an Xbox so in category one I'll just talk about this gen and ND has that down in tech, they take category 2 as well with great SP games since the PS1 days, 3 is tricky, Halo is the most popular but ND has had 3 different sucessful franchises versus one.

DarkLink77

D:

How did their other franchises perform?

Naughty Dog for me

"looks at poll" For shame SW, for shame. :shock: :? :P

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

Naughty Dog by far, for days.

Crash Bandicoot? Jak and Daxter, and Uncharted?

And what has Bungle done?

Haloz, Haloz again, evenmore Haloz, evenmore Haloz Expansion.

FireSpirit117

:|

If it hadn't been for the title, I would have thought that art was from Halo :lol:

"looks at poll" For shame SW, for shame. :shock: :? :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

"looks at poll" For shame SW, for shame. :shock: :? :P

FIipMode

For those people scratching their heads wondering why Naught Dog is winnin gby a landslide, its not just because Uncharted is fresh in the memory or that the Dogs have a broader variety in theor catalogue, its a culmination of many many things that ND do better than Bungie.

Bungie is a fine studio, I give them props for 'changing' the face of FPS (GOLDENEYE) notwithstanding, it is the overall experiences of the games that leave a better impression on players of the ND games.

From voice acting, animation, story, storytelling, graphics, sound, set peices. ND wins in all this categories all these add up and the gameplay aint bad either..

while halo has a cool lore, Bungie does fvck all with it in the games, and please dont tell me to read the novels. Thats homework, QED.

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i highly doubt Uncharted, Crash, or Jak will ever be as recognized or lauded in terms of importance and significance to the gaminig world in the future as the Halo trilogy under the Bungie, so if you were to ask me which is better at this point in time, Bungie BY FAR.

Dead-Memories

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

No brainer : Naughty Dog

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]:|

i highly doubt Uncharted, Crash, or Jak will ever be as recognized or lauded in terms of importance and significance to the gaminig world in the future as the Halo trilogy under the Bungie, so if you were to ask me which is better at this point in time, Bungie BY FAR.

Zaibach

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]:|

i highly doubt Uncharted, Crash, or Jak will ever be as recognized or lauded in terms of importance and significance to the gaminig world in the future as the Halo trilogy under the Bungie, so if you were to ask me which is better at this point in time, Bungie BY FAR.

Blabadon

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

The irony.

Last Gen: Bungie

This Gen: ND

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

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I didn't have an Xbox so in category one I'll just talk about this gen and ND has that down in tech, they take category 2 as well with great SP games since the PS1 days, 3 is tricky, Halo is the most popular but ND has had 3 different sucessful franchises versus one.

FIipMode

D:

How did their other franchises perform?

For those people scratching their heads wondering why Naught Dog is winning by a landslide, its not just because Uncharted is fresh in the memory or that the Dogs have a broader variety in their catalogue, its a culmination of many many things that ND do better than Bungie.

Bungie is a fine studio, I give them props for 'changing' the face of FPS, GOLDENEYE notwithstanding, it is the overall experiences of the games that leave a better impression on players of the ND games.

From voice acting, animation, story, storytelling, graphics, sound, set peices. ND wins in all this categories all these add up and the gameplay aint bad either.

While halo has a cool lore, Bungie does fvck all with it in the games, and please dont tell me to read the novels. Thats homework, QED.

Zaibach

The bolded is factually incorrect and the italicized is all an opinion. Yes, even the graphics stuff. Because there are elements of Bungie's tech (lighting, scale) that blow Naughty Dog's out of the water.

If you're trying to present an unbiased reason for the results of the poll, you're not doing a very good job.

Allow me: People on System Wars like Naighty's Dog's games better, and Bungie's early titles are criminally obscure in the eyes of modern mainstream gaming.

"looks at poll" For shame SW, for shame. :shock: :? :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

"looks at poll" For shame SW, for shame. :shock: :? :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

Obviously_Right

The irony.

I loled as well.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]:|

i highly doubt Uncharted, Crash, or Jak will ever be as recognized or lauded in terms of importance and significance to the gaminig world in the future as the Halo trilogy under the Bungie, so if you were to ask me which is better at this point in time, Bungie BY FAR.

Zaibach

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

For those people scratching their heads wondering why Naught Dog is winning by a landslide, its not just because Uncharted is fresh in the memory or that the Dogs have a broader variety in their catalogue, its a culmination of many many things that ND do better than Bungie.

Bungie is a fine studio, I give them props for 'changing' the face of FPS, GOLDENEYE notwithstanding, it is the overall experiences of the games that leave a better impression on players of the ND games.

From voice acting, animation, story, storytelling, graphics, sound, set peices. ND wins in all this categories all these add up and the gameplay aint bad either.

While halo has a cool lore, Bungie does fvck all with it in the games, and please dont tell me to read the novels. Thats homework, QED.

DarkLink77

The bolded is factually incorrect and the italicized is all an opinion. Yes, even the graphics stuff. Because there are elements of Bungie's tech (lighting, scale) that blow Naughty Dog's out of the water.

If you're trying to present an unbiased reason for the results of the poll, you're not doing a very good job.

Allow me: People on System Wars like Naighty's Dog's games better, and Bungie's early titles are criminally obscure in the eyes of modern mainstream gaming.

The bolded is well what you call a reasonable aggreagate, its been 10 years of Halo for Bungie and in that time ND has released several IPs all in different genres.

Like I said, I gave Bungie their dues, its not a question of bias, I prefer ND's games my post history proves it.

The post youre quoting is merely shedding light on why peole are voting ND, they've done more in the last 10 years....maybe not more 'good' but more different. The Accolades are there for all to see.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]:|

i highly doubt Uncharted, Crash, or Jak will ever be as recognized or lauded in terms of importance and significance to the gaminig world in the future as the Halo trilogy under the Bungie, so if you were to ask me which is better at this point in time, Bungie BY FAR.

mems_1224

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

Okay, the poll says different, but Okay :?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Wow you smoke the good sh!t dont you, you gotta get me the name of your dealer, is it the tow guys high-fiving, I heard their stuff is legit!

Seriously go count the amount of awards and adulation won by Uncharted 2 alone and look at the games that have been released since and ask yourself who devs are copying more....

Zaibach

Okay, the poll says different, but Okay :?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

For those people scratching their heads wondering why Naught Dog is winning by a landslide, its not just because Uncharted is fresh in the memory or that the Dogs have a broader variety in their catalogue, its a culmination of many many things that ND do better than Bungie.

Bungie is a fine studio, I give them props for 'changing' the face of FPS, GOLDENEYE notwithstanding, it is the overall experiences of the games that leave a better impression on players of the ND games.

From voice acting, animation, story, storytelling, graphics, sound, set peices. ND wins in all this categories all these add up and the gameplay aint bad either.

While halo has a cool lore, Bungie does fvck all with it in the games, and please dont tell me to read the novels. Thats homework, QED.

Zaibach

The bolded is factually incorrect and the italicized is all an opinion. Yes, even the graphics stuff. Because there are elements of Bungie's tech (lighting, scale) that blow Naughty Dog's out of the water.

If you're trying to present an unbiased reason for the results of the poll, you're not doing a very good job.

Allow me: People on System Wars like Naighty's Dog's games better, and Bungie's early titles are criminally obscure in the eyes of modern mainstream gaming.

The bolded is well what you call a reasonable aggreagate, its been 10 years of Halo for Bungie and in that time ND has released several IPs all in different genres.

Like I said, I gave Bungie their dues, its not a question of bias, I prefer ND's games my post history proves it.

The post youre quoting is merely shedding light on why peole are voting ND, they've done more in the last 10 years....maybe not more 'good' but more different. The Accolades are there for all to see.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] naughty dog doesn't have any games as important to gaming as the first two halo games. while alot of their games are good none of them can be considered innovative. mems_1224

Okay, the poll says different, but Okay :?

I figured it was pretty obvious, when the majority of Bungie haters claim they have only one franchise, that everyone on System Wars is pretty informed, and unbiased

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] naughty dog doesn't have any games as important to gaming as the first two halo games. while alot of their games are good none of them can be considered innovative. mems_1224

Okay, the poll says different, but Okay :?

Welcome to SYSTEM WARS....;)

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

DarkLink77

D:

How did their other franchises perform?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

D:

How did their other franchises perform?

FIipMode

No idea about sales, but I would guess that Myth did well enough. Marathon is iffy since it was a MAC game, but it did well enough to spawn two sequels, so...

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Myth was pretty damn popular and Marathon still has an active multiplayer and modding community. So pretty well.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]How much did they sell. What kind of reviews did they get.

FIipMode

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Myth series is AAA here and on MC. Marathon was released in the early nineties so reviews are rare, but it was very well-received and very influential. No idea about sales, but I would guess that Myth did well enough. Marathon is iffy since it was a MAC game, but it did well enough to spawn two sequels, so...DarkLink77

So even though the OP asks for which had the more successful franchises using the criteria of sales, which.. we don't know, popularity which doesn't seem high, and fanbase, which seems small but dedicated after doing some googling. You think it makes sense come down on people for not listing them ITT...

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]See now I don't get why you said my post was so stupid if we don't know how sucessful the franchises were, when we know about ND's franchises.

FIipMode

So even though the OP asks for which had the more successful franchises using the criteria of sales, which.. we don't know, popularity which doesn't seem high, and fanbase, which seems small but dedicated after doing some googling. You think it makes sense come down on people for not listing them ITT...

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They were successful enough that Take Two bought Myth and Oni and continued to make games in those series when Bungie got bought by Microsoft, and successful enough that Bungie managed to make enough money to continue making games on a platform that was not known for gaming (Marathon), and an XBLA remake of Marathon 2. But I can't find actual sales numbers. I'm guessing it's because they just weren't recorded as well then. I don't even think id knows how many copies of DOOM have been sold. PC game sales from the late 90s just weren't tracked as well, either. I mean, I can't find sales figures for Dungeon Siege, either, but we know it was pretty successful.DarkLink77

So even though the OP asks for which had the more successful franchises using the criteria of sales, which.. we don't know, popularity which doesn't seem high, and fanbase, which seems small but dedicated after doing some googling. You think it makes sense come down on people for not listing them ITT...

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

So even though the OP asks for which had the more successful franchises using the criteria of sales, which.. we don't know, popularity which doesn't seem high, and fanbase, which seems small but dedicated after doing some googling. You think it makes sense come down on people for not listing them ITT...

FIipMode

Damn DarkLink, you are way too invested in this! xD

If SW feels like ND is better/more popular/more successful/whatever than Bungie, then let it be :P Whether it is a correct assessment of the facts and real word views, it doesn't really mater. Correcting SW opinion is near impossible, and surely wont bring you any joy! If anything, it'll cause you loads of headaches and pointless arguments :P

Desmonic

Meh. I'm bored.

I don't care what SW thinks. If they like Naughty Dog better, more power to 'em. I'm just trying to correct the rampant "Bungie has only ever done Halo" crap.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Oh Zai, your stupidity neverlol--> seizes <--wut to amaze me.Zaibach

The irony.

I loled as well.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You said they weren't successful. They clearly were. I don't see the issue. DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] It's either, we don't know, or no using OP's criteria.FIipMode