Can anyone explain to me why people never include MLB: The Show in AAAE lists?

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#1 kittyloaf69
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Just wondering. I don't see any reasonable logic that would make it not count just because it's a sports game. But then again, reasonable logic doesn't really exist here... I may have answered my own question.

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Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

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#3 kittyloaf69
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Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

lundy86_4
But...it's only on PS3...
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http://www.dbtechno.com/images/MLB_The_Show_PS2.jpghttp://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/944283_98301_front.jpg

^That's why. Plus it's a baseball game.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

kittyloaf69
But...it's only on PS3...

It's on PS2 as well.
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#6 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

kittyloaf69
But...it's only on PS3...

Nope.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

kittyloaf69

But...it's only on PS3...

Really?

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#8 lawlessx
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very simple really the past games in the series were never treated as ps3 exclusive titles.
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its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

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What list has the game been omitted from? is there some official AAA list for SW or something?
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http://www.dbtechno.com/images/MLB_The_Show_PS2.jpghttp://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/944283_98301_front.jpg

^That's why. Plus it's a baseball game.

Floppy_Jim

So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.

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#12 lundy86_4
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its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

DontBeHatin1983

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

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#13 kittyloaf69
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What list has the game been omitted from? is there some official AAA list for SW or something? themyth01
No, I just see it on some lists and many lists don't include it.
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#14 SolidTy
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It was heavily debated on both for MLB08, and MLB09...but the two guys that run the official list didn't update, so nothing happened.

It wasn't like there was a committee or Senate in charge, it's just a list that is run by a couple of nice regular posters like us.

Unfortunately, the argument that the PS2/PSP versions were different enough didn't sway either guy from changing the list.

So, that's that. It's one of those things.

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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

OreoMilkshake

But...it's only on PS3...

Really?

Sorry, I meant only Sony consoles.
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What list has the game been omitted from? is there some official AAA list for SW or something? themyth01
Yup

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#17 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I can buy it on the PS2. I do not need a PS3 to play the game. Therefore, common sense dictates it's not exclusive to the PS3.
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its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

DontBeHatin1983
So is Twilight Princess Wii exclusive? Come on now.
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#19 93soccer
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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

But...it's only on PS3...

...and PS2 & PSP
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#20 kittyloaf69
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Will MLB The Show 10 be exclusive to PS3 and PSP? If so, then basing this statement off LBP, it should be considered exclusive.
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#21 II-FBIsniper-II
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So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.kittyloaf69
Only being on Playstation makes it a PS3 exclusive how? Your MGS4 and LBP comparisons make no sense. MGS and LBP (PSP) are not the same games as MGS4 and LBP (PS3)
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Will MLB The Show 10 be exclusive to PS3 and PSP? If so, then basing this statement off LBP, it should be considered exclusive.kittyloaf69
Can someone buy it on the PS2? If so, then it's not exclusive.
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#23 DontBeHatin1983
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[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

lundy86_4

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

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So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.

kittyloaf69

Not really. MGS4 isn't on the PS1, it's clearly different to the others in the series. Both versions of LBP are apparently different enough for them to be seperate games. This will probably be the last year Sony bother putting MLB on the PS2 & PSP anyway.

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#25 kittyloaf69
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

DontBeHatin1983

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

Exactly. The logic here doesn't make any sense at all.
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It's not exclusive. What makes me laugh is when some people call The Show PS3 exclusive. Really now? So a game that's also on PSP and PS2 is PS3 exclusive? :lol: :|

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So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

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What in the world are you talking about? :?

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

DontBeHatin1983

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

There are more factors that play into. Such as whether the gameplay or gamestyle varies greatly from system to system. If it does, then exclusivity can be argued for it. If they are very similar, and offer similar features, then they are seen as not exclusive.

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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]

So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.

Floppy_Jim

Not really. MGS4 isn't on the PS1, it's clearly different to the others in the series. Both versions of LBP are apparently different enough for them to be seperate games. This will probably be the last year Sony bother putting MLB on the PS2 & PSP anyway.

Yea, I kind of figured that. I've never played the PSP version of LBP but I imagine it isn't much different. Oh well, I got what I wanted out of this thread I guess.
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#30 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

its a exclusive game you can only play it on sony console. sony dosent care if u buy it on Ps2, psp or ps3 as long u buy it. xbox fanboys think PC and x360 are one and the same.

DontBeHatin1983

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

I can play Mario Galaxy on the DS? Hot Damn!
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#31 DontBeHatin1983
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[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

lundy86_4

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

There are more factors that play into. Such as whether the gameplay or gamestyle varies greatly from system to system. If it does, then exclusivity can be argued for it. If they are very similar, and offer similar features, then they are seen as not exclusive.

So Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive to the PS3 and so is star ocean the last hope internation since it has more content.

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#32 DontBeHatin1983
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[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Outside of Sytem Wars maybe. Here, it is not exclusive as it's on more than one system. Those are the rules of System Wars i'm afraid.

OreoMilkshake

So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

I can play Mario Galaxy on the DS? Hot Damn!

almost i said

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So Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive to the PS3 and so is star ocean the last hope internation since it has more content.

DontBeHatin1983

Additional content has never warranted exclusivity, not sure what gave you that idea. Those two games remain largely identical.

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I hear it...that sound...

It's the sound of Pandora's Box re-opening...

:o

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]

So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.

kittyloaf69

Not really. MGS4 isn't on the PS1, it's clearly different to the others in the series. Both versions of LBP are apparently different enough for them to be seperate games. This will probably be the last year Sony bother putting MLB on the PS2 & PSP anyway.

Yea, I kind of figured that. I've never played the PSP version of LBP but I imagine it isn't much different. Oh well, I got what I wanted out of this thread I guess.

Actually I'm pretty sure LBP PSP has a completely different story mode. Same with New Super Mario Brothers Wii & DS. I don't really see why anyone would argue that MLB should be exclusive, it's exactly the same game as the PS2 version minus one or two minor online features

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[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]So Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive to the PS3 and so is star ocean the last hope internation since it has more content.

Stevo_the_gamer

Additional content has never warranted exclusivity, not sure what gave you that idea. Those two games remain largely identical.

xbox fanboys with the GTA4 DLC every time they had PS3 vs x360 exclusives they always included the GTA4 DLC

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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"] So Wii has almost no Excusives at all since you can play all the mario etc... games on the DS

DontBeHatin1983

I can play Mario Galaxy on the DS? Hot Damn!

almost i said

Mario and Sonic at the Olympics Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympics What else?
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]So Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive to the PS3 and so is star ocean the last hope internation since it has more content.

DontBeHatin1983

Additional content has never warranted exclusivity, not sure what gave you that idea. Those two games remain largely identical.

xbox fanboys with the GTA4 DLC every time they had PS3 vs x360 exclusives they always included the GTA4 DLC

Well that's because it IS exclusive. They're not talking about GTA 4, just Episodes From Liberty City. Of course it's going over to the other platforms as well now.
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TC there are plenty of good arguements to consider MLB exclusive you just missed them all and picked the worst possible arguement negating any chance at debating the game's exclusivity cause now everything will always fall back to "there are no company exlcusives in SW" which I agree with.

Valid arguements would be.

Gametrailers called it exclusive.

Gamespot didn't review the PSP or PS2 versions. If they were the same why did just slap the score on?

Metacritic has the PS3 version at AAA and the PS2 version isn't even AA if I recall correctly.

Diferent Game Engine which imho means diferent game when talking about a sports title.

Example, most ppl would consider Madden 10 exclusive if it were only on 1 platform, however I'm sure you could argue the diference between Madden 09 and Madden 10 on the HD twins is probably smaller the MLB PS3 vs PS2.

Either way I don't care, I think it should count for the simple fact that if it was the other way around lems would get it as an exclusive, they even get "placeholders" lol. I'm not that hardheaded tho, I understand it isn't that clear cut, and making it exclusive would open discussions on exclusivity between last gen and current gen sports titles. I don't care either way.

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I hear it...that sound...

It's the sound of Pandora's Box re-opening...

:o

Teufelhuhn

And you should close it with your mod powas! :P

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#42 WilliamRLBaker
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MLB09 on ps3, and ps2 are pretty much exactly the same games, except for a graphics downgrade one could play one and wouldn't have played the other...therefor its not exclusive....THEY are pretty much the exact same games with no key differences that i know of.

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#43 JAB991
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For the same reason Mass Effect 2 isn't considered to be AAAE. The E is earned from being system-exclusive, not just console-exclusive.

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xbox fanboys with the GTA4 DLC every time they had PS3 vs x360 exclusives they always included the GTA4 DLC

DontBeHatin1983

I literally have no idea what in the world you're going on about, I'm a bit confused now actually. GTAIV DLC? Are you referring to Episodes from Liberty City -- which is a stand-alone retail game that doesn't require GTAIV to play, and was initially exclusive?

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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Because System Wars debated the exclusivity, and it was determined as not exclusive.

AAllxxjjnn
But...it's only on PS3...

It's on PS2 as well.

And PSP as well. 3 different systems.
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well if the show counts than 360-pc games are exclusie to 360

sorry cows i prefer ps3 but u have to be fair and not a raging logic failure

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

http://www.dbtechno.com/images/MLB_The_Show_PS2.jpghttp://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/944283_98301_front.jpg

^That's why. Plus it's a baseball game.

kittyloaf69

So what? It's only on Playsation. By this Logic MGS4 and LBP are no longer exlusives because the Metal Gear Series started on PS1, and LBP is on PSP. What does it being a baseball game have anything to do with it? If it was Madden people would call it exclusive.

Um no argues that if any game in a series is multiplet that all games are. MGS3 and MGS4 are exclusives, MGS and MGS2 are not. Don't know about LBP as it depends on if its a straight port or a different game with the same name. If we are going to count exclusives to one company then 360/PC games should count. Until cows give up that point the MLB games don't count.

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E means exclusive. MLB 09 is not exclusive.

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Because it's on other platforms.

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#50 HarlockJC
Member since 2006 • 25546 Posts

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

I hear it...that sound...

It's the sound of Pandora's Box re-opening...

:o

Stevo_the_gamer

And you should close it with your mod powas! :P

We have to let people speak their mind..Even if it does not really change anything ;)

The term exclusive has to be a non-changing rule overwise there is just to much chaos on this board.

If it's on another system then the game is not excluive.

To give an example of this rule. Sin and Punchment is on the N64 in Japan the only system it's on in the US is the Wii. Because the game is on another system even if it's not playable here it's not exclusive.

FYI:This is not a mod rule or Gamestop rule.