Can Consoles do a single thing better than PC's?

Controller and sit on a couch while playing.johny300

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

[QUOTE="johny300"]Controller and sit on a couch while playing.Arach666

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

There's a difference between being able to do something and doing it well. Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.lowe0

That is opinion though.

I find keyboard and mouse from couch or bed more than controller.

Someone else might not though.

The point is that it can be done.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]There's a difference between being able to do something and doing it well. Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.Hakkai007

That is opinion though.

I find keyboard and mouse from couch or bed more than controller.

Someone else might not though.

The point is that it can be done.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]Controller and sit on a couch while playing.lowe0

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Arach666"]

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

Arach666

Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.lowe0

Frontends such as GameEx do what you're wanting. Frontends run on top of the shell (like any other fullscreen program), so Windows itself doesn't change, but you could certainly set it to launch when Windows starts if you wanted to turn your PC into a permanently controller-friendly environment. Microsoft will be offering something like this themselves for Windows 8's alternate interface.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.garrett_daniels

Frontends such as GameEx do what you're wanting. Frontends run on top of the shell (like any other fullscreen program), so Windows itself doesn't change, but you could certainly set it to launch when Windows starts if you wanted to turn your PC into a permanently controller-friendly environment. Microsoft will be offering something like this themselves for Windows 8's alternate interface.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="lowe0"] There's a difference between being able to do something and doing it well. Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.lowe0

To bad your context was not that Lowe0.. You kinda just jumped in saying your opinion which was open ended with many different interpretations. When in a corner, you tried to retreat to the TC's original statement but at that point it was way out of context. Also, staing his point is void is pretty arrogant as he has just a right and valid as yours. Why try to change what Arach666 was stating to the rebuttle statement of "'Controller and sit on a couch while playing." It was a open ended statement and got a open ended reply. Nothing wrong with either person said here and both arguments are valid.

[QUOTE="johny300"]Controller and sit on a couch while playing.Arach666

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

yeah but that situation doesn't work for a lot of people, like myself. my entertainment setup (hdtv, surround sound, 360 & ps3) is downstairs in the living room while my pc is upstairs in the study room. i mean, if you have your pc near an HDTV that works, lol but not everyone is setup like that. i'm not going to move my pc into my living room just so i can game from my couch, it's soooo much easier to do with consoles, you can't deny that. it's silly that you can't admit that consoles actually do that better and easier.

the controller thing i understand but even then not all games support controllers, even though i'd hope most do.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Some hermits wont admit to anything . Consoles boot faster and last longer and are easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming .

Xtasy26

"last longer"? You obviously haven't heard of Xbox 360's red ring of death. My old PC that used to have on the other hand lasted for 8 years and still runs till this day.

"easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming" How hard is to click "download" and hit the "play" button on Steam?

My nes is like 25 years old now and still runs . Windows + hardware + steam is a lot more to deal with .

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="lowe0"] There's a difference between being able to do something and doing it well. Unless you have a shell replacement designed for use with only a gamepad, there's definitely room for improvement.lowe0

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Some hermits wont admit to anything . Consoles boot faster and last longer and are easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming .

Kinthalis

My SSD i7 PC would beg to differ. It's about the same as an xbox 360 in boot time. Except that my PC is always on and goes to sleep when not in use. That means it BEATS out any console in boot time (2 seconds) 99% off the time. I can come home from work and be playing Team Fortress 2 in exactly 5 seconds flat.

I'd rather spend my time playing than looking for my DVD/waiting for a console to boot/waiting for a long loading time/waiting for updates to download (on my PC updates are done automatically in the background - I haven't had to update a game in 5 years!).

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

To bad your context was not that Lowe0.. You kinda just jumped in saying you opinion which was open ended.. When in a corner, you tried to retreat to the TC's statement but at this point that was way out of context. Also, staing his point is void is pretty arrogant as he has just a right and valid as yours. Why try to change what Arach666 was stating to the rebuttle statement of "'Controller and sit on a couch while playing." It was a open ended statement and got a open ended reply..

jedikevin2

Wether some people find it to be less convenient in any way is completely irrelevant,it´s doable,period.Arach666

Arach: see the second section of my post; it pretty much constitutes a reply to yours as well. There's been plenty of thought put into how to design a UI for a consumer device; there's really no reason to be stuck with a desktop interface when something more usable exists. And while I could start the PC and subsequently the game with a keyboard and mouse, why bother when I already have a device that implements an appropriate UI for what I'm using it for?

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]Controller and sit on a couch while playing.lazerface216

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

yeah but that situation doesn't work for a lot of people, like myself. my gaming setup (hdtv, surround sound, 360 & ps3) is downstairs in the living room while my pc is upstairs in the study room. i mean, if you have your pc near an HDTV that works, lol but not everyone is setup like that. i'm not going to move my pc into my living room just so i can game from my couch, it's soooo much easier to do with consoles, you can't deny that. it's silly that you can't admit do that better.

the controller thing i understand but even then not all games support controllers, even though i'd hope most do.

Position of your house is pretty much preference.. My computer is attached to my home entertainment center with a TV where I switch between my desktop setup to backing off onto my tv where I play games with friends through my PC on multiple controllers. For me, ease of use is for the Pc.. Its simple click and play(trackball or bluetooth wiimote which works as my mouse hehehe), grab controllers and go...Blur, split Second, Sonic Sega Allstars, NBA 2k11, Vanguard Princess, Melty Blood, millenium knights vermillion, big bang beat, and lately lara craft guardians of light.. Once in a while we rock l4d1 custom maps split screen on the tv as well. Its all preference though. I also have several consoles hooked to the main house living room and we do the same.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

A thing I can perfectly do with my PC,I don´t even know how this argument even exists in 2011.

Come on now johnny,really?

jedikevin2

yeah but that situation doesn't work for a lot of people, like myself. my gaming setup (hdtv, surround sound, 360 & ps3) is downstairs in the living room while my pc is upstairs in the study room. i mean, if you have your pc near an HDTV that works, lol but not everyone is setup like that. i'm not going to move my pc into my living room just so i can game from my couch, it's soooo much easier to do with consoles, you can't deny that. it's silly that you can't admit do that better.

the controller thing i understand but even then not all games support controllers, even though i'd hope most do.

Position of your house is pretty much preference.. My computer is attached to my home entertainment center with a TV where I switch between my desktop setup to backing off onto my tv where I play games with friends through my PC on multiple controllers. For me, ease of use is for the Pc.. Its simple click and play, grab controllers and go...Blur, split Second, Sonic Sega Allstars, NBA 2k11, Vanguard Princess, Melty Blood, millenium knights vermillion, big bang beat, and lately lara craft guardians of light.. Once in a while we rock l4d1 custom maps split screen on the tv as well. Its all preference though. I also have several consoles hooked to the main house living room and we do the same.

that's cool, that works for you. lol that's not gonna work in my house though. i prefer my desktop not be in the living room. so for me, ease of use is for the consoles.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Some hermits wont admit to anything . Consoles boot faster and last longer and are easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming .

dontshackzmii

My SSD i7 PC would beg to differ. It's about the same as an xbox 360 in boot time. Except that my PC is always on and goes to sleep when not in use. That means it BEATS out any console in boot time (2 seconds) 99% off the time. I can come home from work and be playing Team Fortress 2 in exactly 5 seconds flat.

I'd rather spend my time playing than looking for my DVD/waiting for a console to boot/waiting for a long loading time/waiting for updates to download (on my PC updates are done automatically in the background - I haven't had to update a game in 5 years!).

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

Huge waste of money? Obviously, you haven't opened heavy application...

Just with Firefox with 5-6 tabs open I can see a difference.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

My SSD i7 PC would beg to differ. It's about the same as an xbox 360 in boot time. Except that my PC is always on and goes to sleep when not in use. That means it BEATS out any console in boot time (2 seconds) 99% off the time. I can come home from work and be playing Team Fortress 2 in exactly 5 seconds flat.

I'd rather spend my time playing than looking for my DVD/waiting for a console to boot/waiting for a long loading time/waiting for updates to download (on my PC updates are done automatically in the background - I haven't had to update a game in 5 years!).

Bebi_vegeta

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

Huge waste of money? Obviously, you haven't opened heavy application...

Just with Firefox with 5-6 tabs open I can see a difference.

i am not spending 10 times the money just to apps to load a bit faster .

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

yeah but that situation doesn't work for a lot of people, like myself. my gaming setup (hdtv, surround sound, 360 & ps3) is downstairs in the living room while my pc is upstairs in the study room. i mean, if you have your pc near an HDTV that works, lol but not everyone is setup like that. i'm not going to move my pc into my living room just so i can game from my couch, it's soooo much easier to do with consoles, you can't deny that. it's silly that you can't admit do that better.

the controller thing i understand but even then not all games support controllers, even though i'd hope most do.

lazerface216

Position of your house is pretty much preference.. My computer is attached to my home entertainment center with a TV where I switch between my desktop setup to backing off onto my tv where I play games with friends through my PC on multiple controllers. For me, ease of use is for the Pc.. Its simple click and play, grab controllers and go...Blur, split Second, Sonic Sega Allstars, NBA 2k11, Vanguard Princess, Melty Blood, millenium knights vermillion, big bang beat, and lately lara craft guardians of light.. Once in a while we rock l4d1 custom maps split screen on the tv as well. Its all preference though. I also have several consoles hooked to the main house living room and we do the same.

that's cool, that works for you. lol that's not gonna work in my house though. i prefer my desktop not be in the living room. so for me, ease of use is for the consoles.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

dontshackzmii

Huge waste of money? Obviously, you haven't opened heavy application...

Just with Firefox with 5-6 tabs open I can see a difference.

i am not spending 10 times the money just to apps to load a bit faster .

Hard drive and CD/DVD drives are the 2 slowest things in a computer if I remember correctly. SSD is a huge improvement in every way possible for hard drives. Its still very new technology in the market and will be a few years before prices/storage regulate themselves. Its not even a bit faster, its a heck of a lot faster.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Position of your house is pretty much preference.. My computer is attached to my home entertainment center with a TV where I switch between my desktop setup to backing off onto my tv where I play games with friends through my PC on multiple controllers. For me, ease of use is for the Pc.. Its simple click and play, grab controllers and go...Blur, split Second, Sonic Sega Allstars, NBA 2k11, Vanguard Princess, Melty Blood, millenium knights vermillion, big bang beat, and lately lara craft guardians of light.. Once in a while we rock l4d1 custom maps split screen on the tv as well. Its all preference though. I also have several consoles hooked to the main house living room and we do the same.

Arach666

that's cool, that works for you. lol that's not gonna work in my house though. i prefer my desktop not be in the living room. so for me, ease of use is for the consoles.

i agree, i just believe that consoles do the whole "gaming from your couch on an HDTV" thing better and more conveniently than PCs.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

dontshackzmii

Huge waste of money? Obviously, you haven't opened heavy application...

Just with Firefox with 5-6 tabs open I can see a difference.

i am not spending 10 times the money just to apps to load a bit faster .

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

um no its still slower then my wii . SSD is a huge waste of money .

dontshackzmii

Huge waste of money? Obviously, you haven't opened heavy application...

Just with Firefox with 5-6 tabs open I can see a difference.

i am not spending 10 times the money just to apps to load a bit faster .

Well it's alot faster... SSD have gotten better ...

Run 2 hard drives in RAID 0 and you will get a nice boost in speed.

If you're wanting faster startup time from your PC without investing in an SSD, put it into sleep or maybe hibernate instead of shutting it down. :)

I don't see why Sleep Mode for a PC would be considered a handicap. When my PC is on Sleep Mode, for all practical purposes, it's turned off. No power light, no blinking lights, no hard drive light, no spinning fans, no graphics card activity according to the monitor. The PC's dead quiet. But when I push the power button, it resumes right where I left off within a couple of seconds.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

Another grip I have with pc gaming.

I just bought a new desktop yesterday. A HP with quad processors, and an AMD 840 something and 4 gbs of DDR3 and intergrated graphics card. I bet I can't play jack on it. Downloading Crysis for a test. Best I can't even run it. That is were PC gaming is a joke, This is a $650 dollar setup. And yet probably can't play s......

psn8214

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh god, I LOL'ed.

split-screen

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]That better be sarcasm otherwise :lol:

anshul89

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh god, I LOL'ed.

Run 2 hard drives in RAID 0 and you will get a nice boost in speed.

Hakkai007

or buy a momentus XT and have better boot times than a 10k RPM velociraptor. hybrid drives are affordable and fast.

gameplay,Bayonetta, Vanquish, SMG2 all have better gameplay than any PC game last year, consoles the vast majority of the time has better gameplay

attracts the cream of Japanese developers

attracts significantly more investment in general i.e bigger budgets

and as a result of this attracts more talent, being where the money is and so can afford the best

being a console, developers have complete control over the absolute final look of the game, (which is never possible on PC) so in most cases console games have a greater level of polish than PC games

of course im playing devils advocate here I like PC gaming, but the original question was a stupid one

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

My SSD i7 PC would beg to differ. It's about the same as an xbox 360 in boot time. Except that my PC is always on and goes to sleep when not in use. That means it BEATS out any console in boot time (2 seconds) 99% off the time. I can come home from work and be playing Team Fortress 2 in exactly 5 seconds flat.

I'd rather spend my time playing than looking for my DVD/waiting for a console to boot/waiting for a long loading time/waiting for updates to download (on my PC updates are done automatically in the background - I haven't had to update a game in 5 years!).

edidili

You're right, ssd are too much costly. The point still stands though. I never turn my computer off so the booting time is way faster than that of a console.

Could the same not be said by somebody who never turns his/her console off?

Could the same not be said by somebody who never turns his/her console off?

iano-87

Yah and have it RROD/YLOD in no time.

Another grip I have with pc gaming.

I just bought a new desktop yesterday. A HP with quad processors, and an AMD 840 something and 4 gbs of DDR3 and intergrated graphics card. I bet I can't play jack on it. Downloading Crysis for a test. Best I can't even run it. That is were PC gaming is a joke, This is a $650 dollar setup. And yet probably can't play s......

caseypayne69

You buy a overpriced pre assembled PC from a **** manufacturer like HP and than are coming here to complain is performs like ****?

I you gave me the 600 buck I would have build you a so much better PC lol. Hell you can even buy the parts and let someone else assemble it. Will only cost you about 50$ more but will save the hassle.

You are a noob :D

No need for upgrades.

IMO a wider selection of "better" games. Even though I am at the moment a PC strictly gamer there havnt been many games that have come out that I liked the look of. Gimme bulletstorm though ;)

The ability to be more social; spilt screen.

Eaiser on a general basis to take round a friends house and link up.

also on the 1st reply to this thread about milking... we should just forget the nvida 9000 series and the 400 series shall we ;)

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Pc has split screen mp and the only console that's plug n play this gen is wii.

The question isn't what console's have that PC doesn't, it's what can consoles do BETTER, and Split-Screen IS better on consoles.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

The question isn't what console's have that PC doesn't, it's what can consoles do BETTER, and Split-Screen IS better on consoles.

AmnesiaHaze

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

The question isn't what console's have that PC doesn't, it's what can consoles do BETTER, and Split-Screen IS better on consoles.

AmnesiaHaze

So what do you say when follks each get their own controllers on splitscreen multiplayer for pc then? I know I use multiple controllers so everyone gets a controller so a bit confused on your statement.

Splitscreen is not "better" on consoles in this context... You would have to compare games not hardware to see a difference as consoles have more games that support splitscreen.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] How is split screen better on consoles? lowe0

Well since PC is so open, a developer can always find people who will enjoy it. Drive sales is more a console mentality in this regard.

Splitscreen is not "better" on consoles in this context... You would have to compare games not hardware to see a difference as consoles have more games that support splitscreen.

jedikevin2

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Splitscreen is not "better" on consoles in this context... You would have to compare games not hardware to see a difference as consoles have more games that support splitscreen.

lowe0

And I know that? Remember what the orginal member just wrote and what I was responding to.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh god, I LOL'ed.

mitu123

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

Another grip I have with pc gaming.

I just bought a new desktop yesterday. A HP with quad processors, and an AMD 840 something and 4 gbs of DDR3 and intergrated graphics card. I bet I can't play jack on it. Downloading Crysis for a test. Best I can't even run it. That is were PC gaming is a joke, This is a $650 dollar setup. And yet probably can't play s......

Fusiondonut

You buy a overpriced pre assembled PC from a **** manufacturer like HP and than are coming here to complain is performs like ****?

I you gave me the 600 buck I would have build you a so much better PC lol. Hell you can even buy the parts and let someone else assemble it. Will only cost you about 50$ more but will save the hassle.

You are a noob :D

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="anshul89"]Took a look at his profile and he doesn't seem to be a pc gamer - so that wasn't sarcasm :lol::lol::lol:

caseypayne69

nothing. you win, OT. as you said, all we have are the best games/exclusives. and on a gaming system, how important is that?