Can Consoles do a single thing better than PC's?

The PS3 has better sound quality then a gaming PC produces, with 7.1 uncompressed and lossless audio.

Of course you have to have a home theater to actually appreciate it.

And nothing really stops PC games from supporting high bitrate audio, but because of the way PC games are sold (ultra compressed on DVD's or zipped and packed for digital download) PC games games generally run low bitrate sound and no PC games have ever had sound on par with PS3 uncompressed audio.

And of course PC gamers will tell you audio doesn't matter so its a moot point.

PC's have had uncompressed 7.1 audio for years. What are you talking about? Man, you consolites are starting to grasp at straws.

Another grip I have with pc gaming.

I just bought a new desktop yesterday. A HP with quad processors, and an AMD 840 something and 4 gbs of DDR3 and intergrated graphics card. I bet I can't play jack on it. Downloading Crysis for a test. Best I can't even run it. That is were PC gaming is a joke, This is a $650 dollar setup. And yet probably can't play s......

caseypayne69

Oh I get it just because of your own ignorance in buying a product without doing research, PC gaming is somehow to be blamed. And for the record I spent $10 less than you IN 2008 and I bet my gaming rig will run circles around your brand new $650 computer. And for the record I run Crysis on everything MAXED at 900P and I get silky smooth framerates.

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Some hermits wont admit to anything . Consoles boot faster and last longer and are easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming .

dontshackzmii

"last longer"? You obviously haven't heard of Xbox 360's red ring of death. My old PC that used to have on the other hand lasted for 8 years and still runs till this day.

"easyer to use that is and always will be the advatage of console gaming" How hard is to click "download" and hit the "play" button on Steam?

My nes is like 25 years old now and still runs . Windows + hardware + steam is a lot more to deal with .

LOL what? You don't make sense.

yeah it games way better!! get over it pc gamers.HailCaesarHail

Is that why u all are always begging for ports from PC? :D

the cost( my CPU and GPU alone cost me 300 bucks)VelloCretic

I could make it under 150USD for the cost of a CPU and GPU.

Around 330USD as a whole and it would be around 3x the power of a console and it can do much more too.

motion controls.

Probably split screen (but who wants that?) but not much else, at least not that I can think of.

Parties.

Probably split screen (but who wants that?) but not much else, at least not that I can think of.

raynimrod

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Probably split screen (but who wants that?) but not much else, at least not that I can think of.

Cheesehead9099

That's not true at all in my opinion.

Split screen is archaic, and with games looking better and better and TVs getting bigger and bigger, many people don't want to sacrifice all of that glorious real estate to play split-screen multiplayer.

You say it's anti-social, but what's lacking in split-screen gaming is being made up for with the increasingly expanding online multiplayer market. Gaming is more social than ever.

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Probably split screen (but who wants that?) but not much else, at least not that I can think of.

raynimrod

That's not true at all in my opinion.

Split screen is archaic, and with games looking better and better and TVs getting bigger and bigger, many people don't want to sacrifice all of that glorious real estate to play split-screen multiplayer.

You say it's anti-social, but what's lacking in split-screen gaming is being made up for with the increasingly expanding online multiplayer market. Gaming is more social than ever.

[QUOTE="evilross"]

The PS3 has better sound quality then a gaming PC produces, with 7.1 uncompressed and lossless audio.

Xtasy26

Wow......console gamers are really showing their "knowledge" about PC's aren't they?

Please someone point him to a Creative Xi-fi sound card. LOL.

"LOL." Whatever. I clearly said its not a matter of PC'c not being able to do it. You can build a machine however you want, and there are all kinds of cards and home theater set ups avalible for movies and musicians to use. The problem is that PC games themselves don't support it. Audio bitrates in the sound files on pc games are generally 128 or lower,no matter the format the sound is in, .wav, .mp3, whatever. And like I said, it has to do with the way the games are sold, compressed on DVD's or for digital download.

Buy all the expensive sound cards you want, your can't actually produce sound quality greater the the source material by upscaling the sample.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="evilross"]

The PS3 has better sound quality then a gaming PC produces, with 7.1 uncompressed and lossless audio.

evilross

Wow......console gamers are really showing their "knowledge" about PC's aren't they?

Please someone point him to a Creative Xi-fi sound card. LOL.

"LOL." Whatever. I clearly said its not a matter of PC'c not being able to do it. You can build a machine however you want, and there are all kinds of cards and home theater set ups avalible for movies and musicians to use. The problem is that PC games themselves don't support it. Audio bitrates in the sound files on pc games are generally 128 or lower,no matter the format the sound is in, .wav, .mp3, whatever. And like I said, it has to do with the way the games are sold, compressed on DVD's or for digital download.

Buy all the expensive sound cards you want, your can't actually produce sound quality greater the the source material by upscaling the sample.

No really, do you know PC has had uncompressed audio and signals long before consoles even had surround? 7.1 cards came out around 2002 I believe. 4 RCA analog is the same thing as HDMI 7.1, except RCA requires no decoding or encoding. Its as pure as it gets. You are aware you can compress the file onto the DVD or download, then unpack it on the users end right? Its convenience, plus the lack of massive storage. Sure we have 500GB and 1TB+ hard drives today, but not everyone does. Pure audio would take up massive amounts of room. Far as I'm aware. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD is just a higher bit-rate source file thats compressed but has instructions for the receiver or decoder on how to properly unpack it. LPCM/RCA is still the purest signal you can get as far as I'm aware.

Theres only a handful of third party games that have loseless 5.1 or 7.1. Majority still uses DD or DTS even with all that space Blu-Ray has. First party is mandatory to support loseless though. I'd like some proof of the quality of PC game titles. I don't even know them myself, but I'd like to see where you get your statement from.

PS3 isn't sound king by the way. PC sound cards offer far better sound quality, especially with headphones. I'd also like to state that since headphones are natural champs at surround sound, we only need 2 channel. That reduces a lot of space. You can also have all the loseless signals you want. Doesn't mean the material sounds good.

And one last thing, where did you ever get the idea PC could never do loseless audio? All of this audio is created on PCs.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

Another grip I have with pc gaming.

I just bought a new desktop yesterday. A HP with quad processors, and an AMD 840 something and 4 gbs of DDR3 and intergrated graphics card. I bet I can't play jack on it. Downloading Crysis for a test. Best I can't even run it. That is were PC gaming is a joke, This is a $650 dollar setup. And yet probably can't play s......

Xtasy26

Oh I get it just because of your own ignorance in buying a product without doing research, PC gaming is somehow to be blamed. And for the record I spent $10 less than you IN 2008 and I bet my gaming rig will run circles around your brand new $650 computer. And for the record I run Crysis on everything MAXED at 900P and I get silky smooth framerates.

Probably split screen (but who wants that?) but not much else, at least not that I can think of.

raynimrod

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[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] split screen is very important... i for one don't understand why developers are getting rid of it so much. gaming is very much a social activity these days, yet we're making it more antisocial by taking out split screen.hiphops_savior

That's not true at all in my opinion.

Split screen is archaic, and with games looking better and better and TVs getting bigger and bigger, many people don't want to sacrifice all of that glorious real estate to play split-screen multiplayer.

You say it's anti-social, but what's lacking in split-screen gaming is being made up for with the increasingly expanding online multiplayer market. Gaming is more social than ever.

Split-screen is subjective based on a player's preference. That means split-screen makes consoles more favorable over a PC if and only if the player truly cares about playing a game with a few buddies. This is why threads like these are a joke. A lot of the answers are highly subjective and opinionated. Take myself for example as far as split-screen is concerned. I don't care for it. If I don't care for it, how can I really regard it as something that's +1 over a PC? I can't.

As far as what others say on the matter. It makes sense. At one point in the past, online multiplayer was impossible, and it was only possible to have a split-screen multiplayer session with buddies. Nowadays, any console player can jump on the Net with their console and go head first into multiplayer. This does make the split-screen mode obsolete.

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Besides Exclusive games, which is the only good reason to own a console of courseNintendonly

You answered your own question. That's all that matters... but technically, PCs are timeless and eventually play all games... but the legality behind it is put into question.

PC's aren't timeless, if you don't upgrade them every couple of years they don't look so great.

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[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] split screen is very important... i for one don't understand why developers are getting rid of it so much. gaming is very much a social activity these days, yet we're making it more antisocial by taking out split screen.hiphops_savior

That's not true at all in my opinion.

Split screen is archaic, and with games looking better and better and TVs getting bigger and bigger, many people don't want to sacrifice all of that glorious real estate to play split-screen multiplayer.

You say it's anti-social, but what's lacking in split-screen gaming is being made up for with the increasingly expanding online multiplayer market. Gaming is more social than ever.

LAN parties are sooo much better. Got 3 computers hooked up, break out Unreal Tournament and Diablo 2 all the time.

Parties.

[QUOTE="evilross"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Wow......console gamers are really showing their "knowledge" about PC's aren't they?

Please someone point him to a Creative Xi-fi sound card. LOL.

ChubbyGuy40

"LOL." Whatever. I clearly said its not a matter of PC'c not being able to do it. You can build a machine however you want, and there are all kinds of cards and home theater set ups avalible for movies and musicians to use. The problem is that PC games themselves don't support it. Audio bitrates in the sound files on pc games are generally 128 or lower,no matter the format the sound is in, .wav, .mp3, whatever. And like I said, it has to do with the way the games are sold, compressed on DVD's or for digital download.

Buy all the expensive sound cards you want, your can't actually produce sound quality greater the the source material by upscaling the sample.

No really, do you know PC has had uncompressed audio and signals long before consoles even had surround? 7.1 cards came out around 2002 I believe. 4 RCA analog is the same thing as HDMI 7.1, except RCA requires no decoding or encoding. Its as pure as it gets. You are aware you can compress the file onto the DVD or download, then unpack it on the users end right? Its convenience, plus the lack of massive storage. Sure we have 500GB and 1TB+ hard drives today, but not everyone does. Pure audio would take up massive amounts of room. Far as I'm aware. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD is just a higher bit-rate source file thats compressed but has instructions for the receiver or decoder on how to properly unpack it. LPCM/RCA is still the purest signal you can get as far as I'm aware.

Theres only a handful of third party games that have loseless 5.1 or 7.1. Majority still uses DD or DTS even with all that space Blu-Ray has. First party is mandatory to support loseless though. I'd like some proof of the quality of PC game titles. I don't even know them myself, but I'd like to see where you get your statement from.

PS3 isn't sound king by the way. PC sound cards offer far better sound quality, especially with headphones. I'd also like to state that since headphones are natural champs at surround sound, we only need 2 channel. That reduces a lot of space. You can also have all the loseless signals you want. Doesn't mean the material sounds good.

And one last thing, where did you ever get the idea PC could never do loseless audio? All of this audio is created on PCs.

I never said it can't, it can. I have been using various versions of Cakewalk and similar programs to record and arrange music for over 10 years.What I said is that PC gamesby nature of the way they are sold don't support it.

If you want to seewhat your audio files on you pc games are sampled at just look in your program folders. Most games use standard audio formats that you can find easily, not buried in a dump file.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="raynimrod"]

That's not true at all in my opinion.

Split screen is archaic, and with games looking better and better and TVs getting bigger and bigger, many people don't want to sacrifice all of that glorious real estate to play split-screen multiplayer.

You say it's anti-social, but what's lacking in split-screen gaming is being made up for with the increasingly expanding online multiplayer market. Gaming is more social than ever.

ArchonOver

LAN parties are sooo much better. Got 3 computers hooked up, break out Unreal Tournament and Diablo 2 all the time.

Yea but then you can't screen cheat:P.

• They can play Demon's Souls better.
• They can play Uncharted 2 better.
• They can play Halo Reach better.
• That can play Gears of War 2 better.
• They can play God of War 3 better.
• They can play MGS4 better.
• They can play RDR better.

I could go on for ages. They're also less of a hassle to maintain.

• They can play Demon's Souls better.
• They can play Uncharted 2 better.
• They can play Halo Reach better.
• That can play Gears of War 2 better.
• They can play God of War 3 better.
• They can play MGS4 better.
• They can play RDR better.

I could go on for ages. They're also less of a hassle to maintain.

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

• They can play Demon's Souls better.
• They can play Uncharted 2 better.
• They can play Halo Reach better.
• That can play Gears of War 2 better.
• They can play God of War 3 better.
• They can play MGS4 better.
• They can play RDR better.

I could go on for ages. They're also less of a hassle to maintain.

DudeNtheRoom

Right, but the title is asking what can consoles do better. Sure, the PC can play an RTS exclusives etc, but consoles can play those exclusives. Question answered.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

• They can play Demon's Souls better.
• They can play Uncharted 2 better.
• They can play Halo Reach better.
• That can play Gears of War 2 better.
• They can play God of War 3 better.
• They can play MGS4 better.
• They can play RDR better.

I could go on for ages. They're also less of a hassle to maintain.

Twin-Blade

Right, but the title is asking what can consoles do better. Sure, the PC can play an RTS exclusives etc, but consoles can play those exclusives. Question answered.

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] We have already worked out the difference between "doing something better" and "doing something". The PC can play it's exclusives too.DudeNtheRoom

Right, but the title is asking what can consoles do better. Sure, the PC can play an RTS exclusives etc, but consoles can play those exclusives. Question answered.

I would say that product A is better than product B in an area where product B isn't capable of doing what product A is. So if a PS3 can play Demon's Souls while the PC can't, the PS3 is better at playing Demon's Souls. I'm just answering the question in the title, I'm not saying it's a well thought out, complex answer, but I think the logic behind it is pretty sound.

Edit: And after reading the first line in TCs post, I realise how stupid I am.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Right, but the title is asking what can consoles do better. Sure, the PC can play an RTS exclusives etc, but consoles can play those exclusives. Question answered.

Twin-Blade

I would say that product A is better than product B in an area where product B isn't capable of doing what product A is. So if a PS3 can play Demon's Souls while the PC can't, the PS3 is better at playing Demon's Souls. I'm just answering the question in the title, I'm not saying it's a well thought out, complex answer, but I think the logic behind it is pretty sound.

Edit: And after reading the first line in TCs post, I realise how stupid I am.

no maintenance. no drivers. no .net frameworks. no installs. no viruses. no spyware. no product codes. no tweaking resolution/AA/graphics quality to get it to run to your liking....it just does.

you put it in, it works, its glorious.

and I like the console exclusives too. mainly all the sony ones and halo. (alan wake and RDR ftw as well)

consols can do conveinince better :D

Unless I'm missing something, I would have to admit that consoles can do general voice chat better. Lots of PC games have in game voice chat but a lot of them are crap.....like WOW. Then theres vent, but you have to pay for the server. It's nice that LIVE has pretty clear chat out of the box, so to speak.DudeNtheRoom

You don't need to pay for a server in order to do a vent server...

no maintenance. no drivers. no .net frameworks. no installs. no viruses. no spyware. no product codes. no tweaking resolution/AA/graphics quality to get it to run to your liking....it just does.

you put it in, it works, its glorious.

and I like the console exclusives too. mainly all the sony ones and halo. (alan wake and RDR ftw as well)

lespaul1919

Consoles have maintenance and they have updates to their software which is similar to drivers.

And of course consoles don't have resolution or AA+AF tweaking, but they use very low resolution and very low AA to no AA.

So it isn't to my liking which means "it just does" is not correct for that claim.

And I like the exclusives on PC like The Witcher.

.

Instalation times?

Have physical media copies of games that are worth more tha 1 dollar 3 months after they are out.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Unless I'm missing something, I would have to admit that consoles can do general voice chat better. Lots of PC games have in game voice chat but a lot of them are crap.....like WOW. Then theres vent, but you have to pay for the server. It's nice that LIVE has pretty clear chat out of the box, so to speak.Bebi_vegeta

You don't need to pay for a server in order to do a vent server...

Have physical media copies of games that are worth more tha 1 dollar 3 months after they are out.

grimhope

no maintenance. no drivers. no .net frameworks. no installs. no viruses. no spyware. no product codes. no tweaking resolution/AA/graphics quality to get it to run to your liking....it just does.

you put it in, it works, its glorious.

and I like the console exclusives too. mainly all the sony ones and halo. (alan wake and RDR ftw as well)

no maintenance. no drivers. no .net frameworks. no installs. no viruses. no spyware. no product codes. no tweaking resolution/AA/graphics quality to get it to run to your liking....it just does.

you put it in, it works, its glorious.

and I like the console exclusives too. mainly all the sony ones and halo. (alan wake and RDR ftw as well)