Can cows please explain how..

you are aware that people set up multiple accounts at the same time and leave some unused until they have to use them to avoid bans right?

this is a common tactic used by trolls.

But why would you want to do that? That was not the issue being discussed here. The issue is that you can basically do what Antwan3k was claiming he can do with play anywhere in the OP but with your laptop only without having to pay extra for a xbox or the internet fee. That was Shewjenja's whole point from the beginning. So if anyone lacked reading comprehension was the lemming FLOPPAGE or maybe he just doesn't understand technology which I suspect is the case. TLHBO.

Kuraimen? wow, that crybaby from the past.

Never though he would dare show his face here again after the complete tool he made of himself

Nobody is down playing PA. It's just not a game changing and the MS having no exclusive is a fact. lol

Didn't you accuse me of being QuadKnight alt? or was another lemming? How do you explain that QuadKnight has no KUR anywhere? check mate

Isn't there a user here called Matt or something? sts106MAT/MATt. hmmm... Suspicious... TBDLHBO (The Ban Dodging Lem Has Been Owned)

Simple because i don't need and xbox for that just a PC.

So basically an xbox one isn't need it,you have a PC you can get those games without buying an xbox one,even better performance is better and you don't have to pay a fee for online play,making the xbox one more than redundant.

Another day another morning in the nonsense that is system wars lol. Arguing over your purchases and acquisitions of alternative accounts, how entertaining.

Having your games on the go is a win any way you slice it... But don't expect fanboys of opposing factions to admit it.

I think about how Sony has shown mass effect Andromeda on 4k displays running at top end performance blah blah.... In my mind, the second Nintendo says, "MEA is coming out on switch" Im pre-ordering.

When you can buy a PC in all the toy stores then maybe you might have an arquement. If anything the original PS4/PS4 slim is more dedundant.

LOLOLOLOL you are crazy lem, truth is.... I'm I_can_haz too. TLHBO.

LOL now your just gonna scramble the poor guys brains now!

I think that's not possible. His brain has more entanglement than quantum physics. TLHBQO

And just like that... /thread.

That didn't take long. Thread gets created...

lol

:P

That's fine I guess. Still gives you no reason to need the console itself.

Don't worry guys, the cloud is still an Xbox exclusive...

So to recap the thread so far, cows/fanboys like @dakur, @tormentos, and @shewganja are basically trying to imply that consoles are pointless if you have a gaming PC.. yet at the same time, they are all fans of the PS4 consoles.. the irony and hypocrisy is fundamentally hilarious..

But to address their assertion directly, i'll limit that statement to the Xbox One.. So let me illustrate a couple things that make your arguments essentially pointless:

1) there are millions of people who simply prefer playing on consoles.. period.. console sales are at an all time high.. this is a fact and no amount of mad cow is going to change that.. Consoles are still the cheapest, easiest, and most practical way to play the latest video games on your living room TV.. end of discussion.. So no matter how you try to spin it, as long as there is a console market, there will continue to be a market for Xbox consoles..

2) this is rather obvious considering the fact I presented above but, not everyone wants to build a dedicated gaming PC.. The laptop I have is not a dedicated gaming laptop.. I wanted a powerful 2-in-1 touchscreen laptop with pen support and great battery life and the Surface Book is arguably the best on the market for that.. It just happens to be able to run video games at an acceptable level as well.. And since I already have Xbox Play Anywhere games available from my console purchases, why wouldn't I also play those on my laptop?.. Additionally, my laptop simply isn't going to give me a better living room gaming experience than my Xbox console.. So again, this isn't going to replace my console.. This same logic also applies to desktops. Whenever I upgrade my desktop to a new device, it will definitely be able to run video games but "gaming" wont be the primary purpose of my desktop. Again, not everyone has interest in building custom monster PC gaming rigs..

3) it actually doesn't matter if you do own a monster gaming rig, Xbox Play Anywhere simply means that you can now purchase, play, and support Xbox branded games on your PC which is obviously a good thing for PC gamers and a good thing for the Microsoft Xbox division.. And if you decide to buy a console for your living room and/or for your kid, you may decide to buy the console that already has an entire library of games that you already own and the console that will continue to allow you to "buy once, play anywhere".. Or maybe you'll decide to get a different console, it just depends on your personal preferences.. that still doesn't change the fact that "buy once, play anywhere" is an obvious value proposition for any unbiased consumer..

But anyway, I know this plain and simple logic is still going to fall on deaf ears for the fanboys I've cited above, but I just wanted to take a second to further debunk their rather silly claims.. Bottomline: features like Xbox Play Anywhere are a great option, no matter how you slice it..

See, the point is, when you can play all your Xbox exclusives on your laptop... what do you need the Xbox for then?

read the post above yours ^ .. the answer to your question is spelled out in detail..

Because millions prefer consoles as is evident by the nearly 300 million consoles sold last gen.

Geez this is just too easy these dayzz. :P

Hmmm. Maybe it's just me as I watch Sony and MS fanboys slap each other..... But, isn't the PC the winner in all these? ;)

@Antwan3K: No lem, the xbone is pointless because it has no exclusives. The Quad still has exclusives that I can't get on my PC.

But to answer your points real quick.

1) Yeah some people prefer consoles but they also prefer games and the PS4 provides better coverage for that since it actually has games you can't get elsewhere and good ones at that.

2) In this case it seems that using anywhere is overly complicated for someone who doesn't even want to build a gaming PC and is content with playing a low quality game on their laptop or tablet. For a person like that the Switch probably is a better value than the bone either way.

3) It depends at what the user wants I agree but I see little objective justification to use play anywhere when other better options are available like,

Option A: buy a good PC and a tablet or laptop and simply use the games on either seamlessly. This has the advantage of not having to pay for online and provides a much bigger variety and flexibility than going with play anywhere since you can use multiple platforms like GOG, Steam, etc.

Option B: Get a Switch and then you have a home solution and a portable solution for the price of one which is better than having the home solution and portable separated like play anywhere does. It also has the advantage of having exclusives that are not on PC.

Option C: get a PS4 as a home console and keep your PC as a separate gaming device. This has the advantage that you get all the games with the xbone for the PC plus the Quad GOTY-quality exclusives which you miss if you focus only on MS platforms.

So there are at least 3 better options already that people can choose before deciding for play anywhere and that's why I think only lems will mostly use it and it won't do much impact.

TLDR version: TLHBO

No one buys consoles for exclusives...

@jun_aka_pekto:

Nah, clearly you're missing that MS is actually winning by servicing both Xbox and PC..

Now, Sony & Nintendo on the other hand are winning in the same sense as this guy....

lol :P

@dakur: Please explain how any of those options are better for an Xbox fan..

I mean you do realize there are Xbox fans, PlayStation fans, Nintendo fans, and everything in between right?..

Everything you mentioned are subjectively good options, true enough.. But can you simply admit that for a fan of Xbox games and services, Xbox Play Anywhere presents a great value proposition if you also happen to own different devices that are capable of playing games?.. It's painfully obvious dude.. I own an Xbox console and I also own a decent laptop.. Bam, Xbox Play Anywhere is an instant value.. It's not any more complicated than that.. You don't have to be a lemming (ie an Xbox fanboy) to understand and appreciate the fact that being able to buy a game once and then being able to seamlessly play that same game across multiple devices is a good deal..

If you own a PS4 and a decent laptop, there's obvious value there for you as a gamer..

If you own a Xbox One and a decent laptop, Xbox Play Anywhere provides an additional level of obvious value for you as a gamer.. It's just that simple

I didn't. I said anywhere is probably better for lems since they love MS but not to many gamers. And lems are scarce nowadays since xbone mostly delivers flops. So I maintain that this won't cause much of an impact or is revolutionary in any form.

lmao wow, you clearly can't read bruh

cows be dumb

For me Xbox Anywhere renders the Xbox One completely optional at least it would if I had a gaming pc. The good that this would do in my case is my pc would get more down time and thus last longer. That's the only benefit I can see right now.

@dakur: Who said it was revolutionary?.. I simply wanted an explanation as to why Xbox Play Anywhere is a bad thing.. Thus far, cows can't come up with one..

I'm glad to see that you agree that XPA is a beneficial feature for Xbox gamers, the Xbox brand, and Microsoft's Xbox division (which was the entire point of this thread).. Thanks for playing..

System Wars, not Fanboy Wars.

To me it's not a negative at all. This weekend I played a ton of Forza Horizon 3 campaign coop. At one point, I was playing with a PC gamer. Had a nice conversation while we were playing and it turns out he is not an Xbox fan, and isn't planning on getting an Xbox, but rather a PsPro. He seemed to really enjoy Horizon 3 though, that was my impression anyways. So it's allowing Playstation fans such as that guy to support and play franchises I really enjoy. I think it's one of the many positives of this feature and I'm glad MS did it.

Surface2 Laptops double as Tablets, have a 4K screen, have a DGPU and up to 16 hours of battery life.

It's literally in it's own class way above anything near it's price range.

Also Cross buy is MS being for the gamer and only a Close minded fool could twist cross buy into a negative.

They fall apart. We've only probably went through 300-350 of them. Good luck.

That's sounds entirely made up, any sensible organization or business would have ended that hardware relationship after a dozen or more device failures all of the same nature, and you expect us to believe you guys went through 300-350 of them?

Yeah right...

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

@EG101 said:

@n64dd said:

You bought a microsoft surface laptop.

LOL.

Surface2 Laptops double as Tablets, have a 4K screen, have a DGPU and up to 16 hours of battery life.

It's literally in it's own class way above anything near it's price range.

Also Cross buy is MS being for the gamer and only a Close minded fool could twist cross buy into a negative.

They fall apart. We've only probably went through 300-350 of them. Good luck.

That's sounds entirely made up, any sensible organization or business would have ended that hardware relationship after a dozen or more device failures all of the same nature, and you expect us to believe you guys went through 300-350 of them?

Yeah right...

Just because you have a boner for a Micorosft, doesn't mean i'm wrong. At my company you get allocated certain funds to pick out a system for yourself. Since we're a cloud based security company and have 5 data centers we're on the go so mostly everybody gets a laptop. Most people that have been there for awhile have just been using Lenovo's (they're built like tanks, especially the ones with the air bag systems around the hard drives). Some people got surface pros tablets and some got the laptops. Our company has 2000-2500 techs in all fields. Most people have macs, and the hardcore linux/unix guys are running Lenovo now.

They're built like shit. The keyboards in the laptop feels cheap as ****. Get one and use it in the field for awhile. You'll see what I mean.

That being said, the Surface Pro studio is amazing and I would like to use one when they get a stylus that's not a piece of shit.

@n64dd said:

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

@EG101 said:

@n64dd said:

You bought a microsoft surface laptop.

LOL.

Surface2 Laptops double as Tablets, have a 4K screen, have a DGPU and up to 16 hours of battery life.

It's literally in it's own class way above anything near it's price range.

Also Cross buy is MS being for the gamer and only a Close minded fool could twist cross buy into a negative.

They fall apart. We've only probably went through 300-350 of them. Good luck.

That's sounds entirely made up, any sensible organization or business would have ended that hardware relationship after a dozen or more device failures all of the same nature, and you expect us to believe you guys went through 300-350 of them?

Yeah right...

Just because you have a boner for a Micorosft, doesn't mean i'm wrong. At my company you get allocated certain funds to pick out a system for yourself. Since we're a cloud based security company and have 5 data centers we're on the go so mostly everybody gets a laptop. Most people that have been there for awhile have just been using Lenovo's (they're built like tanks, especially the ones with the air bag systems around the hard drives). Some people got surface pros tablets and some got the laptops. Our company has 2000-2500 techs in all fields. Most people have macs, and the hardcore linux/unix guys are running Lenovo now.

They're built like shit. The keyboards in the laptop feels cheap as ****. Get one and use it in the field for awhile. You'll see what I mean.

That being said, the Surface Pro studio is amazing and I would like to use one when they get a stylus that's not a piece of shit.

Please forgive me if I don't blindly take the word of some random person on the Internet and their claim that sounds completely unrealistic, I didn't even bother reading what you have to say because frankly it's not worth it and it doesn't change anything.

You're telling tall tales.

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

@EG101 said:

Surface2 Laptops double as Tablets, have a 4K screen, have a DGPU and up to 16 hours of battery life.

It's literally in it's own class way above anything near it's price range.

Also Cross buy is MS being for the gamer and only a Close minded fool could twist cross buy into a negative.

They fall apart. We've only probably went through 300-350 of them. Good luck.

That's sounds entirely made up, any sensible organization or business would have ended that hardware relationship after a dozen or more device failures all of the same nature, and you expect us to believe you guys went through 300-350 of them?

Yeah right...

Just because you have a boner for a Micorosft, doesn't mean i'm wrong. At my company you get allocated certain funds to pick out a system for yourself. Since we're a cloud based security company and have 5 data centers we're on the go so mostly everybody gets a laptop. Most people that have been there for awhile have just been using Lenovo's (they're built like tanks, especially the ones with the air bag systems around the hard drives). Some people got surface pros tablets and some got the laptops. Our company has 2000-2500 techs in all fields. Most people have macs, and the hardcore linux/unix guys are running Lenovo now.

They're built like shit. The keyboards in the laptop feels cheap as ****. Get one and use it in the field for awhile. You'll see what I mean.

That being said, the Surface Pro studio is amazing and I would like to use one when they get a stylus that's not a piece of shit.

Please forgive me if I don't blindly take the word of some random person on the Internet and their claim that sounds completely unrealistic, I didn't even bother reading what you have to say because frankly it's not worth it and it doesn't change anything.

You're telling tall tales.

You have no argument, got it.

@n64dd said:

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

@dynamitecop said:

@n64dd said:

They fall apart. We've only probably went through 300-350 of them. Good luck.

That's sounds entirely made up, any sensible organization or business would have ended that hardware relationship after a dozen or more device failures all of the same nature, and you expect us to believe you guys went through 300-350 of them?

Yeah right...

Just because you have a boner for a Micorosft, doesn't mean i'm wrong. At my company you get allocated certain funds to pick out a system for yourself. Since we're a cloud based security company and have 5 data centers we're on the go so mostly everybody gets a laptop. Most people that have been there for awhile have just been using Lenovo's (they're built like tanks, especially the ones with the air bag systems around the hard drives). Some people got surface pros tablets and some got the laptops. Our company has 2000-2500 techs in all fields. Most people have macs, and the hardcore linux/unix guys are running Lenovo now.

They're built like shit. The keyboards in the laptop feels cheap as ****. Get one and use it in the field for awhile. You'll see what I mean.

That being said, the Surface Pro studio is amazing and I would like to use one when they get a stylus that's not a piece of shit.

Please forgive me if I don't blindly take the word of some random person on the Internet and their claim that sounds completely unrealistic, I didn't even bother reading what you have to say because frankly it's not worth it and it doesn't change anything.

You're telling tall tales.

You have no argument, got it.

I don't need an argument, I don't believe you.

It has nothing to do with it being a bad value for your money, it has to do with the fact that the xbox one is literally a 300+ dollar paperweight.

LOL

it's a nice idea but it effectively means i have no reason to purchase an xbox one

I have a potent pc and a potent laptop and a ps4, can you explain why do i need to buy the xbone!?!

That's all it about, easy you see.

Because i am building a PC, it is bad for microsoft because people like me that dont own a xbox one have absolutely no reason to buy a xbone. Sony and nintendo have actual exclusives so i have a reason to get them.

Why do you have a potent PC, and a potent laptop? With potent I would guess that you mean that both systems are able to play video games?

To answer your question, no one needs to buy the xbox one. If you prefer gaming at a desk, or first connecting your laptop to the TV, for couch gaming, then sure you don't need it. I feel that's all a hassle, and I prefer having my Xbox One connected to the TV for my gaming. I also use it as my #1 Netflix device. Moving your laptop from, and to the TV, plugging it in, and out the whole time really isn't a nice user experience. People are pretending as if people only buy consoles for exclusives, when this is not the case at all. People buy consoles because it's more fun to do couch gaming, it's easier to have a dedicated gaming system, with a gaming OS, instead of the whole Windows 10 package.

When you have a PC, or laptop, what's the reason for an Xbox? The ease that you are able to play however, and wherever you want with all your games, and save games brought along with you. If you don't care about any of that, then indeed you don't need to buy an Xbox One, no one said you had to.

It's not a bad thing, it's a great thing

I'm not sure if I can, but let me give it a shot. It's because...

I hope that clears things up.

-Byshop

Ah, digital games only. I wondered why I didn't care at all because it does seem like a nice feature. Now I remembered. Yeah, completely useless to me.